The gun culture in the South is completely ridiculous.
The anti-gun culture in the North is based on complete ignorance.
Questioning the need for everyone to be packing heat 24/7 is not "anti-gun." It's "anti-stupid."
So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.
Almost all anti gun activists dont hunt ,target shoot or collect firearms.They have no interest in having them so they naturally want more laws or to ban them outright.Their opinion means nothing to me and shouldnt carry any weight with any others on here who believe in their second amendment rights , which our founding fathers added so we can retain all our other rights.
Same people who push this are ,or the same ones who were educated by the people who protested Vietnam on college campuses and for the most part were at Woodstock
Almost all anti gun activists dont hunt ,target shoot or collect firearms.They have no interest in having them so they naturally want more laws or to ban them outright.Their opinion means nothing to me and shouldnt carry any weight with any others on here who believe in their second amendment rights , which our founding fathers added so we can retain all our other rights.
Same people who push this are ,or the same ones who were educated by the people who protested Vietnam on college campuses and for the most part were at Woodstock
Free Love and peace out ...LOL
This thread has nothing to do with banning gun ownership. Try reading next time.
Same people who push this are ,or the same ones who were educated by the people who protested Vietnam on college campuses and for the most part were at Woodstock
Free Love and peace out ...LOL
The vast majority of the gun advocates and supporters in this country are from states that were on the losing side of the Civil War which advocated slavery and inequality for women and minorities. Quite a few of these same states house the vast majority of Neo-nazis, American terrorists and conspiracy theorists who think the government has FEMA camps ready to enslave citizens and thinks zombies are going to attack us.
Jawohl und Sieg Heil?
Interesting point you can make out of conjecture, huh? I think I'd choose the free peace and love over racist views anyday.
Almost all anti gun activists dont hunt ,target shoot or collect firearms.They have no interest in having them so they naturally want more laws or to ban them outright.Their opinion means nothing to me and shouldnt carry any weight with any others on here who believe in their second amendment rights , which our founding fathers added so we can retain all our other rights.
Same people who push this are ,or the same ones who were educated by the people who protested Vietnam on college campuses and for the most part were at Woodstock
Free Love and peace out ...LOL
Anti-gun activists don't own guns? No shit, sherlock.
The founding fathers added the second amendment so you can "retain your other rights"? Where are you getting this?
Why do the guns-and-ammo crowd insist that the second amendment exists to keep the gubmint from getting uppity?
So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.
Almost all anti gun activists dont hunt ,target shoot or collect firearms.They have no interest in having them so they naturally want more laws or to ban them outright.Their opinion means nothing to me and shouldnt carry any weight with any others on here who believe in their second amendment rights , which our founding fathers added so we can retain all our other rights.
Same people who push this are ,or the same ones who were educated by the people who protested Vietnam on college campuses and for the most part were at Woodstock
Free Love and peace out ...LOL
Anti-gun activists don't own guns? No shit, sherlock.
The founding fathers added the second amendment so you can "retain your other rights"? Where are you getting this?
Why do the guns-and-ammo crowd insist that the second amendment exists to keep the gubmint from getting uppity?
What do you mean Kobie? If Obama decides to attack Citizens with Tanks, Bombers, Missiles, and arguably the most powerful military on earth, surely the redneck brigade can take them down with their rifles.
Almost all anti gun activists dont hunt ,target shoot or collect firearms.They have no interest in having them so they naturally want more laws or to ban them outright.Their opinion means nothing to me and shouldnt carry any weight with any others on here who believe in their second amendment rights , which our founding fathers added so we can retain all our other rights.
Same people who push this are ,or the same ones who were educated by the people who protested Vietnam on college campuses and for the most part were at Woodstock
Free Love and peace out ...LOL
Anti-gun activists don't own guns? No shit, sherlock.
The founding fathers added the second amendment so you can "retain your other rights"? Where are you getting this?
Why do the guns-and-ammo crowd insist that the second amendment exists to keep the gubmint from getting uppity?
What do you mean Kobie? If Obama decides to attack Citizens with Tanks, Bombers, Missiles, and arguably the most powerful military on earth, surely the redneck brigade can take them down with their rifles.
..Ohhh..hit a nerve did I ,Truth is painful isnt it ? ....BTW ,Your jesting but I have no doubt in my mind Obama is the type of President who would order something like that.
Almost all anti gun activists dont hunt ,target shoot or collect firearms.They have no interest in having them so they naturally want more laws or to ban them outright.Their opinion means nothing to me and shouldnt carry any weight with any others on here who believe in their second amendment rights , which our founding fathers added so we can retain all our other rights.
Same people who push this are ,or the same ones who were educated by the people who protested Vietnam on college campuses and for the most part were at Woodstock
Free Love and peace out ...LOL
Anti-gun activists don't own guns? No shit, sherlock.
The founding fathers added the second amendment so you can "retain your other rights"? Where are you getting this?
Why do the guns-and-ammo crowd insist that the second amendment exists to keep the gubmint from getting uppity?
What do you mean Kobie? If Obama decides to attack Citizens with Tanks, Bombers, Missiles, and arguably the most powerful military on earth, surely the redneck brigade can take them down with their rifles.
..Ohhh..hit a nerve did I ,Truth is painful isnt it ? ....BTW ,Your jesting but I have no doubt in my mind Obama is the type of President who would order something like that.
Of course you don't. Because the unfounded fear and paranoia stoked by the Glen Becks and Rush Limbaughs of the world is directed at people like you.
Give me one reason why you have no doubt in your mind Obama would order the military to attack citizens. Please. I'm dying to read this.
So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.
What people fail to understand, is that there have been guns on campus for a LOOOng time, just it was those who have no respect for the laws or rules that had them illegally. Now we just allowed the law abiding citizens to have them, who is more of a threat? The illegal guns that will be on campus anyways regardless of rules or the law abiding citizens that actually take proper measures to take proper firearm training? Why people get upset because we allow the law abiding citizens the right to protect themselves is beyond me. The outlaws aready have them, why not the people who wish to defend themselves and protect others?
lol i spend practicaly all my time in the el paso area now and im trying to figure out if this will actually help or hurt el paso, or have no effect.
Being that it is a border town, one could theoritically shoot one's proffessor then witin 10 20 minutes be across the border and extremely hard to catch.
El paso has a lot of problems already, if it goes wrong anywhere i bet it will be there.
Not dallas, houston, austin, etc.
98% of the teenage population does or has tried smoking pot. If you''re one of the 2% who hasn''t, copy & paste this in your signature.
Almost all anti gun activists dont hunt ,target shoot or collect firearms.They have no interest in having them so they naturally want more laws or to ban them outright.Their opinion means nothing to me and shouldnt carry any weight with any others on here who believe in their second amendment rights , which our founding fathers added so we can retain all our other rights.
Same people who push this are ,or the same ones who were educated by the people who protested Vietnam on college campuses and for the most part were at Woodstock
Free Love and peace out ...LOL
Anti-gun activists don't own guns? No shit, sherlock.
The founding fathers added the second amendment so you can "retain your other rights"? Where are you getting this?
Why do the guns-and-ammo crowd insist that the second amendment exists to keep the gubmint from getting uppity?
What do you mean Kobie? If Obama decides to attack Citizens with Tanks, Bombers, Missiles, and arguably the most powerful military on earth, surely the redneck brigade can take them down with their rifles.
..Ohhh..hit a nerve did I ,Truth is painful isnt it ? ....BTW ,Your jesting but I have no doubt in my mind Obama is the type of President who would order something like that.
I didn't think they allowed internet access in the mental ward.
What in the hell makes you think Obama would ever do something like that? Something actually factual that is, not just your buddy saying that he heard Obama praises the devil.
Thankyou for giving me even more confidence that we'll win in 2012 too.
Almost all anti gun activists dont hunt ,target shoot or collect firearms.They have no interest in having them so they naturally want more laws or to ban them outright.Their opinion means nothing to me and shouldnt carry any weight with any others on here who believe in their second amendment rights , which our founding fathers added so we can retain all our other rights.
Same people who push this are ,or the same ones who were educated by the people who protested Vietnam on college campuses and for the most part were at Woodstock
Free Love and peace out ...LOL
Anti-gun activists don't own guns? No shit, sherlock.
The founding fathers added the second amendment so you can "retain your other rights"? Where are you getting this?
Why do the guns-and-ammo crowd insist that the second amendment exists to keep the gubmint from getting uppity?
What do you mean Kobie? If Obama decides to attack Citizens with Tanks, Bombers, Missiles, and arguably the most powerful military on earth, surely the redneck brigade can take them down with their rifles.
..Ohhh..hit a nerve did I ,Truth is painful isnt it ? ....BTW ,Your jesting but I have no doubt in my mind Obama is the type of President who would order something like that.
I didn't think they allowed internet access in the mental ward.
What in the hell makes you think Obama would ever do something like that? Something actually factual that is, not just your buddy saying that he heard Obama praises the devil.
Thankyou for giving me even more confidence that we'll win in 2012 too.
It's more of this "Obama is a socialist fascist Nazi muslim dictator who will take your guns away" bullshit that the little man in the radio told him. It's utter insanity.
The right wing has no ideas, has no foundation in reality, and has no conscience. Therefore, the Hannitys, Becks and Limbaughs of the world will puke up this nonsense and their flock of listeners just eats it up. It's sad, really, that people are so gullible.
Hell, I and a lot of other people couldn't stand President Bush, but I don't think anyone feared him sending the military after us.
So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.
Some facets of both sides are correct, some are wrong.
The beautiful part of the USA is we can all express our ideas and have freedom of thought that others are not allowed. Personally I find any extreme-left or extreme-right person to be difficult to agree with. Most times extremism doesn't really turn out so well :P
I cannot imagine Obama sicking the military on civilians o.O? I was quite an active supporter of McCain but he lost, dwelling on that will get us nowhere. Obama is now the Chief of Staff and leader of our country, better to support him than automatically assume the worst of him at every single turn. As a former soldier he has my backing now.
As to the whole anti-gun issue I find it completely asanine. People have done violence to each other for all of history. A gun might make it somewhat easier but the simple fact is if you get rid of guns they will use knives, bombs, sticks, pipes, whatever else. Are you going to make everything illegal until we are all forced to cut our hands off because you can use those to kill too? It is a dumb position. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. A gun is a tool, nothing more.
Some facets of both sides are correct, some are wrong. The beautiful part of the USA is we can all express our ideas and have freedom of thought that others are not allowed. Personally I find any extreme-left or extreme-right person to be difficult to agree with. Most times extremism doesn't really turn out so well :P I cannot imagine Obama sicking the military on civilians o.O? I was quite an active supporter of McCain but he lost, dwelling on that will get us nowhere. Obama is now the Chief of Staff and leader of our country, better to support him than automatically assume the worst of him at every single turn. As a former soldier he has my backing now. As to the whole anti-gun issue I find it completely asanine. People have done violence to each other for all of history. A gun might make it somewhat easier but the simple fact is if you get rid of guns they will use knives, bombs, sticks, pipes, whatever else. Are you going to make everything illegal until we are all forced to cut our hands off because you can use those to kill too? It is a dumb position. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. A gun is a tool, nothing more.
No, you're right, a gun is a tool. However, I've never heard of a person killing another person by pointing a finger at him and saying "bang."
There's a difference between banning guns and regulating them, which is what the vast majority of gun control advocates are promoting.
So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.
Anyone who wants to kill someone will find a way. Pick a rock up off the ground and hit them, voila.
Really the anti-gun stuff often reeks of people placing the blame in the wrong area. A gun, a bomb, a rock, a stick, a fist, none of these are to blame, the person who decided to use one for evil and wrongdoing is to blame, period.
*I am completely fine with regulation, I am only against outright bans.
I honestly don't care what Texas makes legal. I don't live there and I'm 100% for more states rights and less federal interference.
I do, however, really feel like within the next few years something bad is going to happen that will be traced back to this.
Some drunk kid, with a concealed carry liscense, or hunting permit, or whatever TX requires, is going to get drunk and lose his head. Then blow someone else's off.
Some facets of both sides are correct, some are wrong. The beautiful part of the USA is we can all express our ideas and have freedom of thought that others are not allowed. Personally I find any extreme-left or extreme-right person to be difficult to agree with. Most times extremism doesn't really turn out so well :P
I cannot imagine Obama sicking the military on civilians o.O? I was quite an active supporter of McCain but he lost, dwelling on that will get us nowhere. Obama is now the Chief of Staff and leader of our country, better to support him than automatically assume the worst of him at every single turn. As a former soldier he has my backing now.
/applause!
Originally posted by ZoeMcCloskey:
As to the whole anti-gun issue I find it completely asanine. People have done violence to each other for all of history. A gun might make it somewhat easier but the simple fact is if you get rid of guns they will use knives, bombs, sticks, pipes, whatever else. Are you going to make everything illegal until we are all forced to cut our hands off because you can use those to kill too? It is a dumb position. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. A gun is a tool, nothing more.
Originally posted by clwoods I honestly don't care what Texas makes legal. I don't live there and I'm 100% for more states rights and less federal interference. I do, however, really feel like within the next few years something bad is going to happen that will be traced back to this. Some drunk kid, with a concealed carry liscense, or hunting permit, or whatever TX requires, is going to get drunk and lose his head. Then blow someone else's off.
Of course you don't. Because the unfounded fear and paranoia stoked by the Glen Becks and Rush Limbaughs of the world is directed at people like you. Give me one reason why you have no doubt in your mind Obama would order the military to attack citizens. Please. I'm dying to read this.
Two words.
Napolitano's list.
Libertarians, various peoples against taxes, peoples against tax expansion, and peoples against government expansion have been included on said list.
This expansion of the homeland security list is besides the armed forces vets included that she half-assed apologized.
(Deny that expansion list all you want..Denial coming in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1....)
You don't have a list unless you plan to take action down the path.
What form that action will take is up for debate.
(President Lincoln put governors in jail during the civil war to stop possibilities of neutral states from seceding so it has been done before)
Lastly being able to bear arms gives the citizens the right to change things when the government is oppressive and checks & balances have failed.
(One mistake the Confederacy made during the 2nd revolution was the South didn't drop slavery long before and why our federal government has too much power now)
I doubt some Yankees would understand how fantastic a real fresh meal caught from wild game tastes like anyway.
Once again I'll repeat as a gamer you lose validity on trumping electronic media when you play video games. You get your news from a screen when you view your liberal internet sites.
And please continue to misrepresent the DHS report.
Paranoid hysteria sure can be fun to watch.
Also, the last two paragraphs of your post make absolutely no sense whatsoever. Incoherent babblings of the paranoid.
So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.
USA has lost all sense of direction. You are so confused in so many ways. Clearly in the way of decadence. God bless Europe. I know we aren't going to be the next superpower, but we still know where the north is. For instance, we know that nipples are not dangerous and guns are.
USA has lost all sense of direction. You are so confused in so many ways. Clearly in the way of decadence. God bless Europe. I know we aren't going to be the next superpower, but we still know where the north is. For instance, we know that nipples are not dangerous and guns are.
The United States has a very very long history of gun activism. If we were to follow your "correct way" of thinking we'd still have just as many(if not more) criminals using guns because they're still not worried about breaking the law(and know no one else has a weapon more powerful).
There are more weapons in this world than there are people trying to hide under a rock with laws will not make that problem go away ever.
I find it amazing that by 2020 first world countries will be competing to get immigrants.
Lastly being able to bear arms gives the citizens the right to change things when the government is oppressive and checks & balances have failed.
(One mistake the Confederacy made during the 2nd revolution was the South didn't drop slavery long before and why our federal government has too much power now)
I doubt some Yankees would understand how fantastic a real fresh meal caught from wild game tastes like anyway.
Keeping slavery was the only way the South was going to compete in the future, and the South made more than "one mistake", lol. That's like saying Madonna only slept with a "few people".
The North was getting highly industrialized, while the South depended on free labor. If they give up slavery, they got nothing. They would have had acres and acres of swampland, forests and crops and no one to work it for free. The South also made the mistake of letting southern states rule with "state's rights" where whole towns were excluding tons of men to fight.
Most Southern men simply ran away from the draft when Lee put it in or southern states plainly wouldn't send troops and comply because of "state's rights", or sent slaves in their place to fight if they had money. The South was like modern day Iraq and modern day rightwing radio hosts and fans are today; they wanted freedom, but wanted someone else to do all the fighting.
Americans probably know more about the Civil War than about any other event in our history. Yet one of the most interesting facets of the war remains the least researched by historians and almost unknown to the general public: the war within a war which helped defeat the Southern Confederacy.
During the Civil War draft evasion, desertion, peace movements, and even armed resistance threw whole regions of the South into anarchy. Opposition to the Confederacy thrived in upcountry and mountain areas where few whites owned slaves, but it broke out in the plantation districts as well. Unionists--those Southerners who opposed secession and remained loyal to the Union throughout the war--provided the hard core of the internal opposition. Many others came to oppose the Confederacy in the course of the war because it demanded intolerable sacrifices from the common people in defense of an apparently hopeless cause.
And Yankees not tasting wild game? I think I might remind you that Pennsylvania (my state) has the largest Cabela's in the United States for a reason.
"Currently, the largest Cabela's retail facility is in Hamburg, Pennsylvania, with more than 250,000 square feet (23,000 m2) of floor space."
And it's not just cause all us Yankees like wearing camouflague to the mall while we drink chardonnay.
"The list." Right. "The list." Give me a break. And please continue to misrepresent the DHS report. Paranoid hysteria sure can be fun to watch. Also, the last two paragraphs of your post make absolutely no sense whatsoever. Incoherent babblings of the paranoid.
Typical leftist. Getting all ticked off when you only want your side displayed.
You must be a fan of lameinjay's "republican tactics 101" thread.
(Like lameinjay I'm sure you accuse someone while closet committing them yourself)
Read page 5 and you'll be able to read between the lines of being labeled an extremist if you oppose abortion.
(This is besides the anti-abortion activists)
Read the end of page 9 in which they'll be looking into "political, economic, and social factors that drive right-wing extremist radicalization"...I'm sure they will.
More like curb opposing thought and call it studying what "drives right-wing extremist radicalization."
Anyway where's an updated list on left-wing extremist groups?
Ah I forget we're following the politically correct disease here.
Left-wing extremist groups are "American defense or American civil groups". Ah sorry my bad. There are no extremists ever on your side.
Lastly being able to bear arms gives the citizens the right to change things when the government is oppressive and checks & balances have failed. (One mistake the Confederacy made during the 2nd revolution was the South didn't drop slavery long before and why our federal government has too much power now) I doubt some Yankees would understand how fantastic a real fresh meal caught from wild game tastes like anyway.
Keeping slavery was the only way the South was going to compete in the future, and the South made more than "one mistake", lol. That's like saying Madonna only slept with a "few people".
The North was getting highly industrialized, while the South depended on free labor. If they give up slavery, they got nothing. They would have had acres and acres of swampland, forests and crops and no one to work it for free. The South also made the mistake of letting southern states rule with "state's rights" where whole towns were excluding tons of men to fight.
Most Southern men simply ran away from the draft when Lee put it in or southern states plainly wouldn't send troops and comply because of "state's rights", or sent slaves in their place to fight if they had money. The South was like modern day Iraq and modern day rightwing radio hosts and fans are today; they wanted freedom, but wanted someone else to do all the fighting.
Americans probably know more about the Civil War than about any other event in our history. Yet one of the most interesting facets of the war remains the least researched by historians and almost unknown to the general public: the war within a war which helped defeat the Southern Confederacy.
During the Civil War draft evasion, desertion, peace movements, and even armed resistance threw whole regions of the South into anarchy. Opposition to the Confederacy thrived in upcountry and mountain areas where few whites owned slaves, but it broke out in the plantation districts as well. Unionists--those Southerners who opposed secession and remained loyal to the Union throughout the war--provided the hard core of the internal opposition. Many others came to oppose the Confederacy in the course of the war because it demanded intolerable sacrifices from the common people in defense of an apparently hopeless cause.
And Yankees not tasting wild game?
I think I might remind you that Pennsylvania (my state) has the largest Cabela's in the United States for a reason.
"Currently, the largest Cabela's retail facility is in Hamburg, Pennsylvania, with more than 250,000 square feet (23,000 m2) of floor space."
And it's not just cause all us Yankees like wearing camouflague to the mall while we drink chardonnay.
You mean War of northern Aggression? Remember Obama said he wanted to be like Abe Lincoln.Hehe.
You mean War of northern Aggression? Remember Obama said he wanted to be like Abe Lincoln.Hehe.
I like you Scubie, you are really my kind of guy, lol. I think if we lived near each other, we'd probably hang out and you'd be smoking pot and singing songs with me. ^^
Must be the ex-Navy in me and the fact that I spent my enlistment on a diver's ocean tugboat Pic of my old ship that was in Little Creek, VA. I got to know some crazy divers during my time on that ship, although diving is not for me.
Other people on the other hand...
Originally posted by Narug
You must be a fan of lameinjay's "republican tactics 101" thread.
(Like lameinjay I'm sure you accuse someone while closet committing them yourself)
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The anti-gun culture in the North is based on complete ignorance.
Questioning the need for everyone to be packing heat 24/7 is not "anti-gun." It's "anti-stupid."
So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.
Almost all anti gun activists dont hunt ,target shoot or collect firearms.They have no interest in having them so they naturally want more laws or to ban them outright.Their opinion means nothing to me and shouldnt carry any weight with any others on here who believe in their second amendment rights , which our founding fathers added so we can retain all our other rights.
Same people who push this are ,or the same ones who were educated by the people who protested Vietnam on college campuses and for the most part were at Woodstock
Free Love and peace out ...LOL
This thread has nothing to do with banning gun ownership. Try reading next time.
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The vast majority of the gun advocates and supporters in this country are from states that were on the losing side of the Civil War which advocated slavery and inequality for women and minorities. Quite a few of these same states house the vast majority of Neo-nazis, American terrorists and conspiracy theorists who think the government has FEMA camps ready to enslave citizens and thinks zombies are going to attack us.
Jawohl und Sieg Heil?
Interesting point you can make out of conjecture, huh? I think I'd choose the free peace and love over racist views anyday.
"TO MICHAEL!"
Anti-gun activists don't own guns? No shit, sherlock.
The founding fathers added the second amendment so you can "retain your other rights"? Where are you getting this?
Why do the guns-and-ammo crowd insist that the second amendment exists to keep the gubmint from getting uppity?
So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.
Anti-gun activists don't own guns? No shit, sherlock.
The founding fathers added the second amendment so you can "retain your other rights"? Where are you getting this?
Why do the guns-and-ammo crowd insist that the second amendment exists to keep the gubmint from getting uppity?
What do you mean Kobie? If Obama decides to attack Citizens with Tanks, Bombers, Missiles, and arguably the most powerful military on earth, surely the redneck brigade can take them down with their rifles.
The Official God FAQ
Anti-gun activists don't own guns? No shit, sherlock.
The founding fathers added the second amendment so you can "retain your other rights"? Where are you getting this?
Why do the guns-and-ammo crowd insist that the second amendment exists to keep the gubmint from getting uppity?
What do you mean Kobie? If Obama decides to attack Citizens with Tanks, Bombers, Missiles, and arguably the most powerful military on earth, surely the redneck brigade can take them down with their rifles.
..Ohhh..hit a nerve did I ,Truth is painful isnt it ? ....BTW ,Your jesting but I have no doubt in my mind Obama is the type of President who would order something like that.
Anti-gun activists don't own guns? No shit, sherlock.
The founding fathers added the second amendment so you can "retain your other rights"? Where are you getting this?
Why do the guns-and-ammo crowd insist that the second amendment exists to keep the gubmint from getting uppity?
What do you mean Kobie? If Obama decides to attack Citizens with Tanks, Bombers, Missiles, and arguably the most powerful military on earth, surely the redneck brigade can take them down with their rifles.
..Ohhh..hit a nerve did I ,Truth is painful isnt it ? ....BTW ,Your jesting but I have no doubt in my mind Obama is the type of President who would order something like that.
Of course you don't. Because the unfounded fear and paranoia stoked by the Glen Becks and Rush Limbaughs of the world is directed at people like you.
Give me one reason why you have no doubt in your mind Obama would order the military to attack citizens. Please. I'm dying to read this.
So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.
lol i spend practicaly all my time in the el paso area now and im trying to figure out if this will actually help or hurt el paso, or have no effect.
Being that it is a border town, one could theoritically shoot one's proffessor then witin 10 20 minutes be across the border and extremely hard to catch.
El paso has a lot of problems already, if it goes wrong anywhere i bet it will be there.
Not dallas, houston, austin, etc.
98% of the teenage population does or has tried smoking pot. If you''re one of the 2% who hasn''t, copy & paste this in your signature.
Anti-gun activists don't own guns? No shit, sherlock.
The founding fathers added the second amendment so you can "retain your other rights"? Where are you getting this?
Why do the guns-and-ammo crowd insist that the second amendment exists to keep the gubmint from getting uppity?
What do you mean Kobie? If Obama decides to attack Citizens with Tanks, Bombers, Missiles, and arguably the most powerful military on earth, surely the redneck brigade can take them down with their rifles.
..Ohhh..hit a nerve did I ,Truth is painful isnt it ? ....BTW ,Your jesting but I have no doubt in my mind Obama is the type of President who would order something like that.
I didn't think they allowed internet access in the mental ward.
What in the hell makes you think Obama would ever do something like that? Something actually factual that is, not just your buddy saying that he heard Obama praises the devil.
Thankyou for giving me even more confidence that we'll win in 2012 too.
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Anti-gun activists don't own guns? No shit, sherlock.
The founding fathers added the second amendment so you can "retain your other rights"? Where are you getting this?
Why do the guns-and-ammo crowd insist that the second amendment exists to keep the gubmint from getting uppity?
What do you mean Kobie? If Obama decides to attack Citizens with Tanks, Bombers, Missiles, and arguably the most powerful military on earth, surely the redneck brigade can take them down with their rifles.
..Ohhh..hit a nerve did I ,Truth is painful isnt it ? ....BTW ,Your jesting but I have no doubt in my mind Obama is the type of President who would order something like that.
I didn't think they allowed internet access in the mental ward.
What in the hell makes you think Obama would ever do something like that? Something actually factual that is, not just your buddy saying that he heard Obama praises the devil.
Thankyou for giving me even more confidence that we'll win in 2012 too.
It's more of this "Obama is a socialist fascist Nazi muslim dictator who will take your guns away" bullshit that the little man in the radio told him. It's utter insanity.
The right wing has no ideas, has no foundation in reality, and has no conscience. Therefore, the Hannitys, Becks and Limbaughs of the world will puke up this nonsense and their flock of listeners just eats it up. It's sad, really, that people are so gullible.
Hell, I and a lot of other people couldn't stand President Bush, but I don't think anyone feared him sending the military after us.
So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.
Some facets of both sides are correct, some are wrong.
The beautiful part of the USA is we can all express our ideas and have freedom of thought that others are not allowed. Personally I find any extreme-left or extreme-right person to be difficult to agree with. Most times extremism doesn't really turn out so well :P
I cannot imagine Obama sicking the military on civilians o.O? I was quite an active supporter of McCain but he lost, dwelling on that will get us nowhere. Obama is now the Chief of Staff and leader of our country, better to support him than automatically assume the worst of him at every single turn. As a former soldier he has my backing now.
As to the whole anti-gun issue I find it completely asanine. People have done violence to each other for all of history. A gun might make it somewhat easier but the simple fact is if you get rid of guns they will use knives, bombs, sticks, pipes, whatever else. Are you going to make everything illegal until we are all forced to cut our hands off because you can use those to kill too? It is a dumb position. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. A gun is a tool, nothing more.
No, you're right, a gun is a tool. However, I've never heard of a person killing another person by pointing a finger at him and saying "bang."
There's a difference between banning guns and regulating them, which is what the vast majority of gun control advocates are promoting.
So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.
Anyone who wants to kill someone will find a way. Pick a rock up off the ground and hit them, voila.
Really the anti-gun stuff often reeks of people placing the blame in the wrong area. A gun, a bomb, a rock, a stick, a fist, none of these are to blame, the person who decided to use one for evil and wrongdoing is to blame, period.
*I am completely fine with regulation, I am only against outright bans.
I honestly don't care what Texas makes legal. I don't live there and I'm 100% for more states rights and less federal interference.
I do, however, really feel like within the next few years something bad is going to happen that will be traced back to this.
Some drunk kid, with a concealed carry liscense, or hunting permit, or whatever TX requires, is going to get drunk and lose his head. Then blow someone else's off.
/applause!
/tomatoes and rank cabbage!
"TO MICHAEL!"
Already started, cl..
It's already started.
"Senate OKs Loaded Guns In National Parks"
"TO MICHAEL!"
Two words.
Napolitano's list.
Libertarians, various peoples against taxes, peoples against tax expansion, and peoples against government expansion have been included on said list.
This expansion of the homeland security list is besides the armed forces vets included that she half-assed apologized.
(Deny that expansion list all you want..Denial coming in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1....)
You don't have a list unless you plan to take action down the path.
What form that action will take is up for debate.
(President Lincoln put governors in jail during the civil war to stop possibilities of neutral states from seceding so it has been done before)
Lastly being able to bear arms gives the citizens the right to change things when the government is oppressive and checks & balances have failed.
(One mistake the Confederacy made during the 2nd revolution was the South didn't drop slavery long before and why our federal government has too much power now)
I doubt some Yankees would understand how fantastic a real fresh meal caught from wild game tastes like anyway.
Once again I'll repeat as a gamer you lose validity on trumping electronic media when you play video games. You get your news from a screen when you view your liberal internet sites.
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"The list." Right. "The list."
Give me a break.
And please continue to misrepresent the DHS report.
Paranoid hysteria sure can be fun to watch.
Also, the last two paragraphs of your post make absolutely no sense whatsoever. Incoherent babblings of the paranoid.
So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.
USA has lost all sense of direction. You are so confused in so many ways. Clearly in the way of decadence. God bless Europe. I know we aren't going to be the next superpower, but we still know where the north is. For instance, we know that nipples are not dangerous and guns are.
The United States has a very very long history of gun activism. If we were to follow your "correct way" of thinking we'd still have just as many(if not more) criminals using guns because they're still not worried about breaking the law(and know no one else has a weapon more powerful).
There are more weapons in this world than there are people trying to hide under a rock with laws will not make that problem go away ever.
I find it amazing that by 2020 first world countries will be competing to get immigrants.
Keeping slavery was the only way the South was going to compete in the future, and the South made more than "one mistake", lol. That's like saying Madonna only slept with a "few people".
The North was getting highly industrialized, while the South depended on free labor. If they give up slavery, they got nothing. They would have had acres and acres of swampland, forests and crops and no one to work it for free. The South also made the mistake of letting southern states rule with "state's rights" where whole towns were excluding tons of men to fight.
Most Southern men simply ran away from the draft when Lee put it in or southern states plainly wouldn't send troops and comply because of "state's rights", or sent slaves in their place to fight if they had money. The South was like modern day Iraq and modern day rightwing radio hosts and fans are today; they wanted freedom, but wanted someone else to do all the fighting.
And Yankees not tasting wild game?
I think I might remind you that Pennsylvania (my state) has the largest Cabela's in the United States for a reason.
"Currently, the largest Cabela's retail facility is in Hamburg, Pennsylvania, with more than 250,000 square feet (23,000 m2) of floor space."
And it's not just cause all us Yankees like wearing camouflague to the mall while we drink chardonnay.
"TO MICHAEL!"
Typical leftist. Getting all ticked off when you only want your side displayed.
You must be a fan of lameinjay's "republican tactics 101" thread.
(Like lameinjay I'm sure you accuse someone while closet committing them yourself)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/14/homeland-security-report_n_186834.html
Read page 5 and you'll be able to read between the lines of being labeled an extremist if you oppose abortion.
(This is besides the anti-abortion activists)
Read the end of page 9 in which they'll be looking into "political, economic, and social factors that drive right-wing extremist radicalization"...I'm sure they will.
More like curb opposing thought and call it studying what "drives right-wing extremist radicalization."
Anyway where's an updated list on left-wing extremist groups?
Ah I forget we're following the politically correct disease here.
Left-wing extremist groups are "American defense or American civil groups". Ah sorry my bad. There are no extremists ever on your side.
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Keeping slavery was the only way the South was going to compete in the future, and the South made more than "one mistake", lol. That's like saying Madonna only slept with a "few people".
The North was getting highly industrialized, while the South depended on free labor. If they give up slavery, they got nothing. They would have had acres and acres of swampland, forests and crops and no one to work it for free. The South also made the mistake of letting southern states rule with "state's rights" where whole towns were excluding tons of men to fight.
Most Southern men simply ran away from the draft when Lee put it in or southern states plainly wouldn't send troops and comply because of "state's rights", or sent slaves in their place to fight if they had money. The South was like modern day Iraq and modern day rightwing radio hosts and fans are today; they wanted freedom, but wanted someone else to do all the fighting.
And Yankees not tasting wild game?
I think I might remind you that Pennsylvania (my state) has the largest Cabela's in the United States for a reason.
"Currently, the largest Cabela's retail facility is in Hamburg, Pennsylvania, with more than 250,000 square feet (23,000 m2) of floor space."
And it's not just cause all us Yankees like wearing camouflague to the mall while we drink chardonnay.
You mean War of northern Aggression? Remember Obama said he wanted to be like Abe Lincoln.Hehe.
I like you Scubie, you are really my kind of guy, lol. I think if we lived near each other, we'd probably hang out and you'd be smoking pot and singing songs with me. ^^
Must be the ex-Navy in me and the fact that I spent my enlistment on a diver's ocean tugboat Pic of my old ship that was in Little Creek, VA. I got to know some crazy divers during my time on that ship, although diving is not for me.
Other people on the other hand...
...we wouldn't have anything in common.
"TO MICHAEL!"