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Bankrupt California Awards Illegal-Immigrant Child Molester $4 Million
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I can tolerate this, he lived in poverty.
www.ocregister.com/articles/county-ramirez-eisenberg-2370202-chamberlain-jail
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It actually makes sense to turn the court system into a paycheck system in that case med bills, never being able to work, technically being "dead", amoung other things. All the other stuff just makes it have a huge helping of WTF.
I find it amazing that by 2020 first world countries will be competing to get immigrants.
From a legal perspective, the fact that a jurisdiction may or may not be bankrupt is irrelevant to its culpability in a case like this. The jurisdiction referenced in the title is not even the jurisdiction against which the judgment was awarded. I don't expect much reading will occur on this site into the facts underlying the case, because it's a heck of a lot easier to try to play the role of a talk show host and throw inflammatory rhetoric around. There are a lot of wannabe Limbaughs.
Where the hell did the OP get the 'bankrupt' thing from, there is nothing at all like that in the article..?!
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Michael
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And your post is different how?
When a piscating wizard floods every thread I can understand why people leave.
Damn those current events.
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He wouldn't have been beaten in jail if he didn't try to molest a little girl that lived in a country he wasn't supposed to be in, in the first place, so all the blame is on HIM. He should get NOTHING except a free trip back to Mexico. Actually Mexico should have to pay for the bus ticket and whatever medical expenses he incurred. Its so sad that our tax dollars paid for an illegal to reap the benefits that he doesn't deserve.
This reminds me of burglars who sue the owners of homes they break into. Sue because they got trapped in a garage they broke into without enough food. Its of course the responsibility of a home owner to provide food for people who break in. Or, an intruder broke their leg after they fell through a sky light. Broke their neck while running out of the house. Got shot in the back while trying to escape from a house you were trying to rob(afterall it was in the back and you were fleeing so there was no threat, LOL). Its all ABSURD. Why should you be able to sue someone if its a country or a person, when YOU were the one who put yourself in that situation? If you weren't doing something illegal, the criminal act wouldn't have occurred. Its so damn simple. A little common sense goes a long way and would save the country billions in legal fees, time and insurance to cover it all.
How do we even know he did it, he could have easily been the scapegoat for a quick arrest & conviction....
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Michael
I really think its the state the California Jail System is in. Jail is meant as a place to think for some time and have your life ruined; not a place to be raped, beaten, and charged for it. The California jail system is overcrowded mainly with petty criminals who are in it for life for 3 strikes, or on marijuana charges. I think its time we release those 41k in jail for petty crimes and free up the state budget. Also the jail system here is incredibly ineffecient at spending money. They spend in the upwards of $40k/inmate to jail them a year. Thats more then we spend on the school system. For that price they quality of the jails is shoddy, bunking up with atleast 2 inmates in a limited area.
Also most cities in California pre-plan their budget a year in advance. Nearly all cities in Southern California are within budget with maybe a surplus. Its most North State and Eastern cities that have a budget shortfall.
It seems that jails dish out the real justice. Plenty of stories of how inmates will live together with minimal fighting but once a pedophile comes in, they get the **** beat out of them. There are things in this world that should not happen, when they do, real justice happens. Most people just end up sqeamish and can't deal with life and give out money and don't think about the fact that it's actually their money they are giving away.
When a piscating wizard floods every thread I can understand why people leave.
Some of these comments are just plain sick and it's no wonder as to why California and this country is going down.
California is BROKE.
He MOLESTED a 6 YEAR OLD GIRL.
He is here ILLEGALLY.
People get thier ass kicked in prison all the time. I say good. But what I want to know is how sick in the head do you have to be and feel sorry for this savage so much, that you give him $4 Million.
If that was my kid, that bastard wouldn't even be alive.
I have two hopes here. Hopefully, if the allegations are completely true, the money will bring the man no happiness on account of his current medical condition. Secondly, I hope the state(as well as the other 49) learned that it's cheaper to spend a little on security than to face a huge lawsuit.
No one questions the fact that innocent people go to both jail and prison. It has also been proven that innocent people have been sentenced to death only to be cleared years later by DNA evidence(those are the few cases we know of). On top of this, child molestation is a charge being thrown around for even the most minor crimes.
Example: You are out at a park walking your dog and you really really have to piss. The park is fairly empty and you haven't seen anyone in awhile. You duck behind a tree and start to relieve youself when from around a bush walks a lady and her 5 year old daughter. From their angle they catch sight of your "man-wand" and the lady grabs her daughter and hurries away. You are embarrased but shrug it off as a lesson learned. Then as you are leaving the park a couple of police cruisers speed up with their lights flashing. They grab you, cuff you, and arrest you. Apparently the lady with the kid called the cops and told them you exposed yourself to her 5 year old daughter. While in jail they decide to hold you on some sort of exposure/child molestation charge instead of just exposure because a little girl was involved. Somehow another prisoner overhears the charge and decides to pass it on. Next thing you know you are being beat to death, or nearly to death while the guards are off doing god knows what.
People are really getting child molestation charges against them for stuff like this. If they survive jail, and even if they get a light sentence from an understanding judge they usually still have to register as a sex offender.
Now obviously this is far from the average circumstance that leads to child molestation charges, but the point is that you might find yourself in the same situation even if you are completely innocent. Honestly, I don't see this as such a bad thing if the state puts into place multiple backups, even pricey ones, to make sure something like this never happens again. A lot of scumbags win the lottery, at least this time something good can come of this.
Being an ILLEGAL Immigrant is still a crime. That girl wouldn't have been molested and her life ruined, he wouldn't have been in jail to get his ass kicking.
I wonder if all of your opinions would be different if he was White and not a Mexican. Would he still be "innocent" of this molesting and wrongfully imprisoned?
Sick sick racist people.
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Hopefully pointing out your rediculous assumptions will deter others from being posted.
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Being an ILLEGAL Immigrant is still a crime. That girl wouldn't have been molested and her life ruined, he wouldn't have been in jail to get his ass kicking.
I wonder if all of your opinions would be different if he was White and not a Mexican. Would he still be "innocent" of this molesting and wrongfully imprisoned?
Sick sick racist people.
He deserved the beating if he was white, black, yellow or purple. He's SCUM and deserves nothing. Being illegal just makes it all that much worse.
I agree but liberals seem to think that it's ok because he was a minority and it's all a setup. So all is sugar and spice.
Him Bad.
Verdict maybe good?
People get trial before being beat to death good.
Sometime people not always bad but called bad before trial.
State now know to be more careful or get big hurt in form of cash money.
Now you understand my read words?
I guess he shouldn't have come to America then. Lesson learned. Actually no, Become a millionare.....
I was gonna go off about how he should have been protected because he was charged and not yet convicted...
but he plead guilty to what amounts to child molestation.
YES technically prisoners should be protected but personally I think all child molesters/ rapists should get the death penalty.
How's that for liberal?
deviliscious: (PS. I have been told that when I use scientific language, it does not make me sound more intelligent, it only makes me sound like a jackass. It makes me appear that I am not knowledgable enough in the subject I am discussing to be able to translate it for people outside the field to understand. Some advice you might consider as well)
I think I just pee'd myself.
Wait......that's not pee :O
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I think that's the most retarded fuckin' thing I've ever heard.
Making child molestation and rape capital offenses just puts the victims in greater jeopardy. Since most rape and sexual abuse victims are also the only witnesses to the crime, the sex offender would then have a vested interest (survival) in killing that witness.
Nice see that you kept a level head and thought this one through though... <sarcasm>
I think that's the most retarded fuckin' thing I've ever heard.
Making child molestation and rape capital offenses just puts the victims in greater jeopardy. Since most rape and sexual abuse victims are also the only witnesses to the crime, the sex offender would then have a vested interest (survival) in killing that witness.
Nice see that you kept a level head and thought this one through though... <sarcasm>
If you've studied criminal psychology and this is your professional opinion then I defer to you.
I still think rapists and child molesters should fry. Victims rights and safety comes first though.
By the way at least one of the derogatory terms you used for me above is offensive to many people. Glad you thought that through.
deviliscious: (PS. I have been told that when I use scientific language, it does not make me sound more intelligent, it only makes me sound like a jackass. It makes me appear that I am not knowledgable enough in the subject I am discussing to be able to translate it for people outside the field to understand. Some advice you might consider as well)
I think that's the most retarded fuckin' thing I've ever heard.
Making child molestation and rape capital offenses just puts the victims in greater jeopardy. Since most rape and sexual abuse victims are also the only witnesses to the crime, the sex offender would then have a vested interest (survival) in killing that witness.
Nice see that you kept a level head and thought this one through though... <sarcasm>
If you've studied criminal psychology and this is your professional opinion then I defer to you.
Funny you should mention....
Actually, one of my old psych professors had the ... ahem... experience of working with sex offenders professionally. He said that most of the people he saw were really just victims of beer goggles and mature looking girls with fake IDs. However, the subject of appropriate punishment for those individuals that were the real deal did come up. It was his opinion, as well as the opinion of most corrections officers I've met since, that convicted sex offenders should be given life and that life should really mean life in those cases.
The catch .22 is that the hysteria surrounding sex crimes produces one hell of a lot of false positives. Unlike other crimes, you can't just accuse someone of molesting a child and then return them to regular life if they're found innocent. If you're accused of child molestation, regardless of whether you did it or not and regardless of whether you're found guilty or not, everyone that knows about the accusation will treat you as though you were guilty.
I could probably write a book concerning the problems associated with these kinds of investigations, but I think you get the idea. We all want to protect kids from this kind of thing, but going around half-cocked is not helping the cause.
By the way at least one of the derogatory terms you used for me above is offensive to many people. Glad you thought that through.
If you want to move a Missouri mule, you have to get his attention first.
I think you can see by my fair and equitable response that while I have some mule-esque qualities, that I am not, in fact, a mule : )
Great info in your post, points well taken.
deviliscious: (PS. I have been told that when I use scientific language, it does not make me sound more intelligent, it only makes me sound like a jackass. It makes me appear that I am not knowledgable enough in the subject I am discussing to be able to translate it for people outside the field to understand. Some advice you might consider as well)