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Move over WoW, theres a new Daddy in town
jimmy123
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I havn't seen a game on the market which would ever challenge WoW's population, that was untill now.
I belive that SWTOR will be the next big game 2010. To be honest it's about time somethik epic should be developed.
Iv'e been let down with AoC , WaR & TR let's hope that SWTOR won't go down the same road.
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So Jimmy... You've been let down by WAR, AoC, and TR and now you are predicting TOR will be the next big thing? Forgive me if I don't put $50 on TOR, you don't have a real good history of picking winners.
"There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer."
People said the same exact thing about Dark and Light, Darkfall, AoC, WAR, and a host of other games... yeah... You are wrong.
There's a thread just like this for every new title in development.
2010? think more like 2013-15, and it's only if you're an optimist
Actually he's not wrong in principle.
All the games mentioned had the potential to become great hits (apart from Darkfall, who in his right mind would expect it to have the universal acceptance of WoW). None of them managed to realise that potential, due to various reasons. Here comes yet another game with good potential to become a majorly accepted title. Until however the potential is actually realised, it's dangerous to speculate. If nothing else, you prepare yourself for a disappointment by overhyping this game.
So we yet again have another threat comparing a non-released game with WoW. I wonder when people will get bored of these threads. They seem to keep popping each time a game is getting close to beta phase and sometimes (like now) much earlier.
Unfortunately, I know exactly what is going to kill WoW.
A meteor, or nuclear exchange, or a polar shift, or the second coming (or third or seventh) of someone's messiah.
I would have added alien invasion but I have a sneaking suspicion that the invading aliens would become horribly addicted to WoW. I'm not especially certain said messiah wouldn't.
WoW is like rabies, it'll never just....go away. But maybe if we trapped and humanely euthanized enough WoW addicts, we could bring the scourge to a managable level.
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You missed one. Blizzard's next MMO.
I'm sorry, you are wrong. The ONLY game on the horizon that has even a remote chance to dethrone WoW is Blizzard's new MMORPG. To beat Blizzard, you have to understand Blizzard, and even the folks making GuildWars (who came from Blizzard) have not been able to repeat the magic. Hopefully at BlizzCon in August we'll find out more of their new MMOG. Unfortunately, SW:TOR will always have SW:G baggage to deal with because after all, LucasArts is involved in both.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
Come on man don't jinx the game with early predictions, if you have one, keep it to yourserf, all this is gonna do is start a flame war like it always does. I myself am waiting patiently for this game to come out, don't care when they decide to release it as long as they make sure it's polished nicely with no bugs. Although playing Voyage Century Online for 2 years off and on a person can get use to the bugs lol.
Before WAR and AOC came out people where saying the exact same thing about those games.
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I'm sorry, you are wrong. The ONLY game on the horizon that has even a remote chance to dethrone WoW is Blizzard's new MMORPG. To beat Blizzard, you have to understand Blizzard, and even the folks making GuildWars (who came from Blizzard) have not been able to repeat the magic. Hopefully at BlizzCon in August we'll find out more of their new MMOG. Unfortunately, SW:TOR will always have SW:G baggage to deal with because after all, LucasArts is involved in both.
To beat Blizzard you have to understand Blizzard. That's a good one. And I thought it was their multimilion marketing campaign, but obviously not.
REALITY CHECK
You missed one. Blizzard's next MMO.
I didn't miss it, I left it out intentionally. For one thing, it is unlikely that blizzard would shoot themselves in the foot and damage their golden egg laying retarded child. Aside from that, I'm fairly certain that even blizzard couldn't make a WoW killer. Wow was a child of timing and opportunity. All blizzard did was manage to ride the lightning long enough to keep the game from burning out immediately. Wow is pretty much just a big carnival game, throw something at something else and you win a shiny whatnot. Now all they have to do is make sure there is an ample supply of shiny whatnots.
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Hehe, but seriously now, there IS a new Daddy in town, and it's called Aion.
With it's 3,5 million subscribers and only released in march, it is the fastest growing mmorpg ever and while Lineage and Lineage II lost subs because of Aion, I am sure WoW will too.
So look no further for your WoW killer, if it's not Aion ( even if it is only in Asia ), then we will have to wait a looong time before someone else gets a shot at it.
And no, lol, it won't be SWTOR
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Favorite MMORPG's : DAoC pre ToA-NF, SWG Pre CU-NGE, EVE Online
I'm sorry, you are wrong. The ONLY game on the horizon that has even a remote chance to dethrone WoW is Blizzard's new MMORPG. To beat Blizzard, you have to understand Blizzard, and even the folks making GuildWars (who came from Blizzard) have not been able to repeat the magic. Hopefully at BlizzCon in August we'll find out more of their new MMOG. Unfortunately, SW:TOR will always have SW:G baggage to deal with because after all, LucasArts is involved in both.
I'd say Aion has a chance to dethrone WoW, it has gotten 3,5 million subs in 3 months and Lineage I + II only lost like 500k subs together, so I am guessing there are also alot of subs comming from WoW and other mmorpg's, and some new players too ofc. It took WoW a year or something to get those numbers.
If you are interested in subscription or PCU numbers for MMORPG's, check out my site :
http://mmodata.blogspot.be/
Favorite MMORPG's : DAoC pre ToA-NF, SWG Pre CU-NGE, EVE Online
You missed one. Blizzard's next MMO.
I didn't miss it, I left it out intentionally. For one thing, it is unlikely that blizzard would shoot themselves in the foot and damage their golden egg laying retarded child. Aside from that, I'm fairly certain that even blizzard couldn't make a WoW killer. Wow was a child of timing and opportunity. All blizzard did was manage to ride the lightning long enough to keep the game from burning out immediately. Wow is pretty much just a big carnival game, throw something at something else and you win a shiny whatnot. Now all they have to do is make sure there is an ample supply of shiny whatnots.
Either way, Blizzard will release a new mmorpg, and I am guessing it will be a sandbox sci-fi one, this way they can cover the whole mmorpg market
But I am sure alot of WoW players will play this game, even if it is sandbox and sci-fi, because the Blizzard name on it will be too hard to resist.
So together with Aion, the new Blizzard mmo will surely dethrone WoW.
If you are interested in subscription or PCU numbers for MMORPG's, check out my site :
http://mmodata.blogspot.be/
Favorite MMORPG's : DAoC pre ToA-NF, SWG Pre CU-NGE, EVE Online
You missed one. Blizzard's next MMO.
I didn't miss it, I left it out intentionally. For one thing, it is unlikely that blizzard would shoot themselves in the foot and damage their golden egg laying retarded child. Aside from that, I'm fairly certain that even blizzard couldn't make a WoW killer. Wow was a child of timing and opportunity. All blizzard did was manage to ride the lightning long enough to keep the game from burning out immediately. Wow is pretty much just a big carnival game, throw something at something else and you win a shiny whatnot. Now all they have to do is make sure there is an ample supply of shiny whatnots.
Either way, Blizzard will release a new mmorpg, and I am guessing it will be a sandbox sci-fi one, this way they can cover the whole mmorpg market
But I am sure alot of WoW players will play this game, even if it is sandbox and sci-fi, because the Blizzard name on it will be too hard to resist.
So together with Aion, the new Blizzard mmo will surely dethrone WoW.
I seriously doubt we are going to see a big budget sandbox MMO in the next 10 years.
I'm sorry, you are wrong. The ONLY game on the horizon that has even a remote chance to dethrone WoW is Blizzard's new MMORPG. To beat Blizzard, you have to understand Blizzard, and even the folks making GuildWars (who came from Blizzard) have not been able to repeat the magic. Hopefully at BlizzCon in August we'll find out more of their new MMOG. Unfortunately, SW:TOR will always have SW:G baggage to deal with because after all, LucasArts is involved in both.
To beat Blizzard you have to understand Blizzard. That's a good one. And I thought it was their multimilion marketing campaign, but obviously not.
I guess you are still peddling that same worn out theory that other developers are just not smart enough to spend money on advertising, because after all it guarantees absolute 100% success.
Games don't need to be good, all they need is marketing and it is undeniable that they will get millions of players to subscriber for years and years. Look how awesome that turned out for Age of Conan and Warhammer.
It is just a shame that so many mmo companies don't have the braintrust that is your special insight fueling their development efforts. If they only knew the key to success was marketing...
As the guiness guys say "BRILLIANT!"
I'm sorry, you are wrong. The ONLY game on the horizon that has even a remote chance to dethrone WoW is Blizzard's new MMORPG. To beat Blizzard, you have to understand Blizzard, and even the folks making GuildWars (who came from Blizzard) have not been able to repeat the magic. Hopefully at BlizzCon in August we'll find out more of their new MMOG. Unfortunately, SW:TOR will always have SW:G baggage to deal with because after all, LucasArts is involved in both.
I'd say Aion has a chance to dethrone WoW, it has gotten 3,5 million subs in 3 months and Lineage I + II only lost like 500k subs together, so I am guessing there are also alot of subs comming from WoW and other mmorpg's, and some new players too ofc. It took WoW a year or something to get those numbers.
Of course it might, it will take a WOW -like game to dethrone WOW, AION has a good chance.
But SWTOR, no, the fanbase is smaller than people realize, especially among the younger folks
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I'm sorry, you are wrong. The ONLY game on the horizon that has even a remote chance to dethrone WoW is Blizzard's new MMORPG. To beat Blizzard, you have to understand Blizzard, and even the folks making GuildWars (who came from Blizzard) have not been able to repeat the magic. Hopefully at BlizzCon in August we'll find out more of their new MMOG. Unfortunately, SW:TOR will always have SW:G baggage to deal with because after all, LucasArts is involved in both.
blizzard fanboi alert.
i would say a star wars based mmo if done in the right way would have a very good chance of doing some real damage to warcraft . also the other game the o.p. does nt mention that appears like it may have as good a chance is aion . warcrafts days may not be numbered but the days when it attacts the numbers we see now subscribing could well be .
it cant happen soon enough imo . blizzard have really run wow into the ground . it used to offer some challenge but now everything is too easy to obtain . its aimed more at the short term very young player nowdays that wants to get to level 80 as quickly as possible and gear his character out with all epics . class imbalances and lag isssues have made the pvp side of the game virtually broken .
if your just coming into warcraft theres proberbly about 6 months decent play before you realise how boring the game has become . i wish any game that can challenge warcraft and cut blizzards prophet margine all the best .
The WoW killer is nothing more than a mythological Bigfoot. Sure there are people that believe it exists, but when ever someone claims to have proof, it turns out to be nothing more than a frozen Gorilla suit stuff with deer intestines, .ie AoC, WAR, all show and no substance.
SW:TOR will not kill WoW, but who cares since Bioware is not trying to kill WoW. TOR will not even be considered a MMO by the majority closed minded MMO players since Bioware is not restricting themselves to the MMO paradigms that are so deeply coveted by the zealots of today.
World of Warcraft will not be killed, it will gradually loose subscriptions over the coming years due to multiple factors, not just the release of a single game.
I tend to agree with hades302 that the WoW Killer is just a mythological Bigfoot. But, then again, I always rooted for Bigfoot.
I thought this was a funny take on the notion, though. The guys at Global Agenda (another futuristic, sci-fi themed MMO) put together a "No Elves" trailer that pretty much sums up my feelings on the Fantasy genre at the moment.
http://e3.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/696255/Exclusive-Global-Agenda-No-Elves-E3-2009-Trailer.html
I'm sorry, you are wrong. The ONLY game on the horizon that has even a remote chance to dethrone WoW is Blizzard's new MMORPG. To beat Blizzard, you have to understand Blizzard, and even the folks making GuildWars (who came from Blizzard) have not been able to repeat the magic. Hopefully at BlizzCon in August we'll find out more of their new MMOG. Unfortunately, SW:TOR will always have SW:G baggage to deal with because after all, LucasArts is involved in both.
To beat Blizzard you have to understand Blizzard. That's a good one. And I thought it was their multimilion marketing campaign, but obviously not.
I guess you are still peddling that same worn out theory that other developers are just not smart enough to spend money on advertising, because after all it guarantees absolute 100% success.
Games don't need to be good, all they need is marketing and it is undeniable that they will get millions of players to subscriber for years and years. Look how awesome that turned out for Age of Conan and Warhammer.
It is just a shame that so many mmo companies don't have the braintrust that is your special insight fueling their development efforts. If they only knew the key to success was marketing...
As the guiness guys say "BRILLIANT!"
Yes, because everyone has 80 milion for developmet and 40 milion for marketing right? Name me one other company with 40 milion marketing budget.
REALITY CHECK
Everything is about adv and marketing these days, from new theatrical films, movies, music,... The AD is first then is the popularity. NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. That's why the sums for any kind of ad in a TV or newspaper or internet went up so high lately.
REALITY CHECK
Marketing IS all, if you want the casual market, like wow does. 99% in there is casual, like parents with their children. They arent interested in the best game ever, they play the game they know of (for the best game, they would have to inform themselves, something a casual wouldnt do). Maybe in the past there were some informed people in wow, but today only marketing hold it that strong in numbers.
But marketing is expensive, even EA with Warhammer could have so much more players, but they're not willing to spent the money for it. The "wow killer" will have TV ads from beginning on, in every country.
When I try to explain someone, what EQ2 is: "Its a RPG, you play online with thousands of other people" - "..." - "*sigh* Its like wow" - "Oh, ok I understand"