Maybe its to soon to make conclusions, but it smells like that what its every time...
great cinematics that lie to you and give a hyped hollywood movie and game looking totally different later...
just played for about an hour, and till this point, it feels same like i felt with games like rohan etc... cheap f2p gameplay
HEY! NCSOFT´s GOT a WOW CLONE, THEY NOW EARN MONEY!!!! Hopefully there will be any drastically differences showing soon...
when will this end?
guess im better off enjoing the rest of my d&d free trial, that was more enjoying
Since when have cinematics become a representation of what your going to find in-game???? and I must say I feel really sorry for you if your using a cinematic as part of the reason you dislike a game, you do realise they are just eyecandy don't you??your not THAT niave are you?
Originally posted by LeKinK Can't wait to play wow with wings
If you're going agree that this game is a WoW clone then simply knowing that this game has better graphics than Wow, makes it better.
I don't understand why a lot of North American players shovel out money to sucky graphic games like WoW and Everquest when there are other games out there, with the same exact content, that look and run better.
The most embarrassing part of Aion is the translation in the English patch.
A chest is called a cube for example, you have no idea what they mean by that until someone tells you. I spent 10 minutes trying to find backpacks until someone told me they're translated as cubes.
The most embarrassing part of Aion is the translation in the English patch. A chest is called a cube for example, you have no idea what they mean by that until someone tells you. I spent 10 minutes trying to find backpacks until someone told me they're translated as cubes.
I really didn't think that was a translation issue, I thought just calling them cubes to be different.
Besides I really think the preview beta client is the same one I played in the Chinese retail, with the same family and friends english patch that was leaked...
You can tell they haven't changed anything in this version of the client...
The most embarrassing part of Aion is the translation in the English patch. A chest is called a cube for example, you have no idea what they mean by that until someone tells you. I spent 10 minutes trying to find backpacks until someone told me they're translated as cubes.
I really didn't think that was a translation issue, I thought just calling them cubes to be different.
Besides I really think the preview beta client is the same one I played in the Chinese retail, with the same family and friends english patch that was leaked...
You can tell they haven't changed anything in this version of the client...
This preview beta is server stress test, I think.
its not server stress test.its customer stress test .they want to know uptil which level you will say no to it and throw aion along with your computer out:P
All your answers are on the beta boards people, you're entitled to your opinion but be careful what you are putting down in your posts because once the NDA is lifted, yes there's an NDA on the current beta events, I won't be holding back as I am now.
I myself was under the impression that this would just be a free trial or preview however that's not the case. See the beta boards if you even care.
The most embarrassing part of Aion is the translation in the English patch. A chest is called a cube for example, you have no idea what they mean by that until someone tells you. I spent 10 minutes trying to find backpacks until someone told me they're translated as cubes.
I really didn't think that was a translation issue, I thought just calling them cubes to be different.
Exactly.
Backpacks?
What I have seen is storage expansion slots, which are called cubes. Works pretty well for me.
But some people just see what they want to see. They complain that a game is the same as the other games, but as soon as they see something different they complain again because it isn't like what they are used to.
/sigh All your answers are on the beta boards people, you're entitled to your opinion but be careful what you are putting down in your posts because once the NDA is lifted, yes there's an NDA on the current beta events, I won't be holding back as I am now. I myself was under the impression that this would just be a free trial or preview however that's not the case. See the beta boards if you even care.
what is so much new in this game??? that you think people are breaking the NDA?? graphics ,other than that i see no big thing .and yes people in these forums have even discuss how you can play aion china in english language .they have even discussed where you can get the best powerlvling or gold for mmorpg's .companies dont care about that .what aion has been hiding?? they are hiding nothing .everyone has seen what they(ncsoft) have in aion by playing aion china . moreover when aion beta was not released in europe or america .play nc was okay with guides for making accounts on aion china because they were getting the money early.now they have f******* problem and asking mmorpg to put off those topics?? i ask where was play nc a month ago?? were those retatrted people sleeping ?? when people were making aion chinese accounts??
/sigh All your answers are on the beta boards people, you're entitled to your opinion but be careful what you are putting down in your posts because once the NDA is lifted, yes there's an NDA on the current beta events, I won't be holding back as I am now. I myself was under the impression that this would just be a free trial or preview however that's not the case. See the beta boards if you even care.
what is so much new in this game??? that you think people are breaking the NDA?? graphics ,other than that i see no big thing .and yes people in these forums have even discuss how you can play aion china in english language .they have even discussed where you can get the best powerlvling or gold for mmorpg's .companies dont care about that .what aion has been hiding?? they are hiding nothing .everyone has seen what they(ncsoft) have in aion by playing aion china . moreover when aion beta was not released in europe or america .play nc was okay with guides for making accounts on aion china because they were getting the money early.now they have f******* problem and asking mmorpg to put off those topics?? i ask where was play nc a month ago?? were those retatrted people sleeping ?? when people were making aion chinese accounts??
Oy...
Yes it's already released so talking about something that is already public knowledge is not an NDA break and most of what people are talking are not. However if I were to start addressing why these supposed issues are there I would be breaking the NDA... Again if you are a tester check out the beta forums it's all answered there.
/sigh All your answers are on the beta boards people, you're entitled to your opinion but be careful what you are putting down in your posts because once the NDA is lifted, yes there's an NDA on the current beta events, I won't be holding back as I am now. I myself was under the impression that this would just be a free trial or preview however that's not the case. See the beta boards if you even care.
what is so much new in this game??? that you think people are breaking the NDA?? graphics ,other than that i see no big thing .and yes people in these forums have even discuss how you can play aion china in english language .they have even discussed where you can get the best powerlvling or gold for mmorpg's .companies dont care about that .what aion has been hiding?? they are hiding nothing .everyone has seen what they(ncsoft) have in aion by playing aion china . moreover when aion beta was not released in europe or america .play nc was okay with guides for making accounts on aion china because they were getting the money early.now they have f******* problem and asking mmorpg to put off those topics?? i ask where was play nc a month ago?? were those retatrted people sleeping ?? when people were making aion chinese accounts??
Oy...
Yes it's already released so talking about something that is already public knowledge is not an NDA break and most of what people are talking are not. However if I were to start addressing why these supposed issues are there I would be breaking the NDA... Again if you are a tester check out the beta forums it's all answered there.
Otherwise just wait.
i understand what you are trying to say and agree with it .and i also know its present in beta boards and such .but the thing is even if we are breaking NDA .what can nc soft do about it?? i am not stupid enough to use the same username on every forum .moreover i use new email address for every forum. play nc can do nothing about it . if lets say chinese government bans you from using youtube if you are a chinese citizen .will you stop??? no. so if the big boss says no to everything .its not compulsory to abide by it.
Originally posted by slntnsnty Originally posted by stayontarget Originally posted by sushimees Originally posted by gamerman98 <Mod edit>
Game is almost out, are you supposing that something drastic will change once it will be gold? um yes it will. Beta and live are 2 different client versions. That means many patches in between.
That sorry excuse hasn't saved the last ~5 major games from flopping.
Have to agree, this excuse has been used to death going back to the legendarily (probably not a real word) disastrous Anarchy Online launch. Not that I wish these people bad or anything, but people are doing this funny thing people do and putting this game up on a pedestal. It's not the Holy grail of games come to deliver us from WoW. Maybe it'll be nice, but it's not looking to be anything remotely revolutionary.
If you're going to be a retard and call shit same old etc, then atleast correct yourself and say EQ clone, because guess what wow is...
Oh and btw, every game will have quests, because if they don't people will bitch about grinding, even though stupid people will cry and call it a wow clone =/. And yes, calling a game a clone within 1 hour gameplay is a bit steep, the first 10-20 levels of aion isn't shit, you don't get wings untill 20 I believe and class change at 10.
Everygame ever made is/was/will be a clone in some form of everything, even that special game your playing I bet.
Has anyone ever stoped to think the main reason most of these games fail is beacuse you compare it to WoW and cry how it is the same as wow then just end up going back to wow.... It is a circle for most people, dislike wow leave for another game get bored go see what else is out, Play for a day say this is like wow complain for the next 3 days....log back into wow and complain... What makes a game like WoW is it the hot bar?? is it the story horde Vs Allaince?? is it the long crafting system that makes no sence and eats your soul?? maybe its the fact you play classes like WoW?? Is it the monsters in the world?? Is it the combat system?? Cause I am here to tell you everything in wow has been done before. First game to have a crafting system was UO first game to have Instance Dungeons was EQ , First game to have battle grounds was AO first game to have that type of combat system was EQ... Those classes are all stolen from the old D@D wow in no way was the paver for todays MMO world and getting tired of people thinking it was. WoW in its own right is a good game and yes there are some wow clones out there. But to compare another game to wow as a clone then it should have most of the elements of WoW... So far Aion has a few but it is a basic MMO it has its own lore and its own style... Are some of the in game game play like wow yes but once again WoW was not the first to do it..
i agree with you 110%. i tried to leave wow 7 times and every time after 2 or 3 months i ended up coming back to wow. i have accounts of wow on both us and europe .and this time i will make an account on taiwan server:D.because its near me less lag.
The most embarrassing part of Aion is the translation in the English patch. A chest is called a cube for example, you have no idea what they mean by that until someone tells you. I spent 10 minutes trying to find backpacks until someone told me they're translated as cubes.
Game is almost out, are you supposing that something drastic will change once it will be gold?
um yes it will. Beta and live are 2 different client versions. That means many patches in between.
That sorry excuse hasn't saved the last ~5 major games from flopping.
Have to agree, this excuse has been used to death going back to the legendarily (probably not a real word) disastrous Anarchy Online launch. Not that I wish these people bad or anything, but people are doing this funny thing people do and putting this game up on a pedestal. It's not the Holy grail of games come to deliver us from WoW. Maybe it'll be nice, but it's not looking to be anything remotely revolutionary.
Who is sneaking here? It's a cleric! He learned to sneak, probably has some items that boost this skill too. And he was also one of the best fighters in that group. Pretty amazing what you can do with your character... Cleric normally is just a healer.
atleast correct yourself and say EQ clone, because guess what wow is...
Don't say that about EQ. EQ was barely close to being similar to WoW. The only thing they had in common was that they were 3d and followed the general mmo criterias IE quests,levels and so forth.
Originally posted by BizkitNL
AION beating WoW in the west, not sure. It might, but it might not. We'll see.
It will not even get a 10th of wows subscribers let alone beat it
Let's not compare the asian MMO market with the western one. WoW is, after all, a western MMO with western things in it. Offcourse AION beats it way over there. AION beating WoW in the west, not sure. It might, but it might not. We'll see.
If you ask me it's probably not going to get even half of WoW's subs in the West. I never said Aion was going to beat WoW.
Aion is basically the same type of game as WoW with updated graphics and more interesting pvp. Those are the top complaints just about everyone has about WoW - the graphics are cartoony/outdated and the pvp is repetitve as hell.
WoW won't 'die' for a very long time because you can run the thing on practically any system. Aion will beat WoW in the global market though, no doubts there. The combat system is just as fluid and more thought out class-wise, so it's really not a hard call to make. It may not beat it in NA, but NA makes up a tiny portion of the total people playing WoW anyway.
Let's not compare the asian MMO market with the western one. WoW is, after all, a western MMO with western things in it. Offcourse AION beats it way over there. AION beating WoW in the west, not sure. It might, but it might not. We'll see.
If you ask me it's probably not going to get even half of WoW's subs in the West. I never said Aion was going to beat WoW.
Game is almost out, are you supposing that something drastic will change once it will be gold?
um yes it will. Beta and live are 2 different client versions. That means many patches in between.
That sorry excuse hasn't saved the last ~5 major games from flopping.
Have to agree, this excuse has been used to death going back to the legendarily (probably not a real word) disastrous Anarchy Online launch. Not that I wish these people bad or anything, but people are doing this funny thing people do and putting this game up on a pedestal. It's not the Holy grail of games come to deliver us from WoW. Maybe it'll be nice, but it's not looking to be anything remotely revolutionary.
The difference here is that the patches already exist. We are playing on an early version 1.0 ; Korea retail is on v1.3.
On the beta forums they have also posted that we will get a higher version at release.
atleast correct yourself and say EQ clone, because guess what wow is...
Don't say that about EQ. EQ was barely close to being similar to WoW. The only thing they had in common was that they were 3d and followed the general mmo criterias IE quests,levels and so forth.
I think the problem is you (and many people) can't tell what is EQ or (as this game is most popular) WoW like type.
When every MMO game is almost the same, you start to think that WAR is much different than WoW, and so on. No, it's not. I play D&D Online, and know for sure it's not a clone of anything, nor that any game is similar. Maybe there will be DDO clones in future, but now - this is one of those games that when you played it, you know how similar are games like EQ, WoW, WAR, AION, LotrO, etc. Even AoC isn't much different - something like an EQ style game with some DDO elements, but not enough. Core gameplay is more like WoW or GW.
Oh, there is also Guild Wars type. Chronicles of Spellborn and AoC may be in that category. DDO isn't anything like those two as well.
So basically, you need to know well enough games that are really unique (played whole trial, or something like that) to tell which are so similar to EQ or WoW, that you may think they are based on the same engine.
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Since when have cinematics become a representation of what your going to find in-game???? and I must say I feel really sorry for you if your using a cinematic as part of the reason you dislike a game, you do realise they are just eyecandy don't you??your not THAT niave are you?
Can't wait to play wow with wings
If you're going agree that this game is a WoW clone then simply knowing that this game has better graphics than Wow, makes it better.
I don't understand why a lot of North American players shovel out money to sucky graphic games like WoW and Everquest when there are other games out there, with the same exact content, that look and run better.
The most embarrassing part of Aion is the translation in the English patch.
A chest is called a cube for example, you have no idea what they mean by that until someone tells you. I spent 10 minutes trying to find backpacks until someone told me they're translated as cubes.
I really didn't think that was a translation issue, I thought just calling them cubes to be different.
Besides I really think the preview beta client is the same one I played in the Chinese retail, with the same family and friends english patch that was leaked...
You can tell they haven't changed anything in this version of the client...
This preview beta is server stress test, I think.
I really didn't think that was a translation issue, I thought just calling them cubes to be different.
Besides I really think the preview beta client is the same one I played in the Chinese retail, with the same family and friends english patch that was leaked...
You can tell they haven't changed anything in this version of the client...
This preview beta is server stress test, I think.
its not server stress test.its customer stress test .they want to know uptil which level you will say no to it and throw aion along with your computer out:P
/sigh
All your answers are on the beta boards people, you're entitled to your opinion but be careful what you are putting down in your posts because once the NDA is lifted, yes there's an NDA on the current beta events, I won't be holding back as I am now.
I myself was under the impression that this would just be a free trial or preview however that's not the case. See the beta boards if you even care.
(,,,)=^__^=(,,,)
I really didn't think that was a translation issue, I thought just calling them cubes to be different.
Exactly.
Backpacks?
What I have seen is storage expansion slots, which are called cubes. Works pretty well for me.
But some people just see what they want to see. They complain that a game is the same as the other games, but as soon as they see something different they complain again because it isn't like what they are used to.
what is so much new in this game??? that you think people are breaking the NDA?? graphics ,other than that i see no big thing .and yes people in these forums have even discuss how you can play aion china in english language .they have even discussed where you can get the best powerlvling or gold for mmorpg's .companies dont care about that .what aion has been hiding?? they are hiding nothing .everyone has seen what they(ncsoft) have in aion by playing aion china . moreover when aion beta was not released in europe or america .play nc was okay with guides for making accounts on aion china because they were getting the money early.now they have f******* problem and asking mmorpg to put off those topics?? i ask where was play nc a month ago?? were those retatrted people sleeping ?? when people were making aion chinese accounts??
what is so much new in this game??? that you think people are breaking the NDA?? graphics ,other than that i see no big thing .and yes people in these forums have even discuss how you can play aion china in english language .they have even discussed where you can get the best powerlvling or gold for mmorpg's .companies dont care about that .what aion has been hiding?? they are hiding nothing .everyone has seen what they(ncsoft) have in aion by playing aion china . moreover when aion beta was not released in europe or america .play nc was okay with guides for making accounts on aion china because they were getting the money early.now they have f******* problem and asking mmorpg to put off those topics?? i ask where was play nc a month ago?? were those retatrted people sleeping ?? when people were making aion chinese accounts??
Oy...
Yes it's already released so talking about something that is already public knowledge is not an NDA break and most of what people are talking are not. However if I were to start addressing why these supposed issues are there I would be breaking the NDA... Again if you are a tester check out the beta forums it's all answered there.
Otherwise just wait.
(,,,)=^__^=(,,,)
what is so much new in this game??? that you think people are breaking the NDA?? graphics ,other than that i see no big thing .and yes people in these forums have even discuss how you can play aion china in english language .they have even discussed where you can get the best powerlvling or gold for mmorpg's .companies dont care about that .what aion has been hiding?? they are hiding nothing .everyone has seen what they(ncsoft) have in aion by playing aion china . moreover when aion beta was not released in europe or america .play nc was okay with guides for making accounts on aion china because they were getting the money early.now they have f******* problem and asking mmorpg to put off those topics?? i ask where was play nc a month ago?? were those retatrted people sleeping ?? when people were making aion chinese accounts??
Oy...
Yes it's already released so talking about something that is already public knowledge is not an NDA break and most of what people are talking are not. However if I were to start addressing why these supposed issues are there I would be breaking the NDA... Again if you are a tester check out the beta forums it's all answered there.
Otherwise just wait.
i understand what you are trying to say and agree with it .and i also know its present in beta boards and such .but the thing is even if we are breaking NDA .what can nc soft do about it?? i am not stupid enough to use the same username on every forum .moreover i use new email address for every forum. play nc can do nothing about it . if lets say chinese government bans you from using youtube if you are a chinese citizen .will you stop??? no. so if the big boss says no to everything .its not compulsory to abide by it.
Game is almost out, are you supposing that something drastic will change once it will be gold?
um yes it will. Beta and live are 2 different client versions. That means many patches in between.
That sorry excuse hasn't saved the last ~5 major games from flopping.
Have to agree, this excuse has been used to death going back to the legendarily (probably not a real word) disastrous Anarchy Online launch. Not that I wish these people bad or anything, but people are doing this funny thing people do and putting this game up on a pedestal. It's not the Holy grail of games come to deliver us from WoW. Maybe it'll be nice, but it's not looking to be anything remotely revolutionary.
You get wings and choose your class at level 10.
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i agree with you 110%. i tried to leave wow 7 times and every time after 2 or 3 months i ended up coming back to wow. i have accounts of wow on both us and europe .and this time i will make an account on taiwan server:D.because its near me less lag.
Thanks, now I know what cube means.
Game is almost out, are you supposing that something drastic will change once it will be gold?
um yes it will. Beta and live are 2 different client versions. That means many patches in between.
That sorry excuse hasn't saved the last ~5 major games from flopping.
Have to agree, this excuse has been used to death going back to the legendarily (probably not a real word) disastrous Anarchy Online launch. Not that I wish these people bad or anything, but people are doing this funny thing people do and putting this game up on a pedestal. It's not the Holy grail of games come to deliver us from WoW. Maybe it'll be nice, but it's not looking to be anything remotely revolutionary.
Bring out the Holy Hand Grenade!
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Who is sneaking here? It's a cleric! He learned to sneak, probably has some items that boost this skill too. And he was also one of the best fighters in that group. Pretty amazing what you can do with your character... Cleric normally is just a healer.
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I am sorry to agree - but the game is not what I hoped for either.
Was hoping for a wow killer - but it's far fram that.
How hard can it be to make "the" game?
Useless threads about the aion beta, this forum needs more of them.
I'm not a no life that sits in front of his computer all day long, I'm an intern that sits in front of his computer all day long.
Ahem... This is a forum about Aion - so what is wrong with threads about the beta?
It will not even get a 10th of wows subscribers let alone beat it
If you ask me it's probably not going to get even half of WoW's subs in the West. I never said Aion was going to beat WoW.
Aion is basically the same type of game as WoW with updated graphics and more interesting pvp. Those are the top complaints just about everyone has about WoW - the graphics are cartoony/outdated and the pvp is repetitve as hell.
WoW won't 'die' for a very long time because you can run the thing on practically any system. Aion will beat WoW in the global market though, no doubts there. The combat system is just as fluid and more thought out class-wise, so it's really not a hard call to make. It may not beat it in NA, but NA makes up a tiny portion of the total people playing WoW anyway.
If you ask me it's probably not going to get even half of WoW's subs in the West. I never said Aion was going to beat WoW.
Didn't say you did .
Game is almost out, are you supposing that something drastic will change once it will be gold?
um yes it will. Beta and live are 2 different client versions. That means many patches in between.
That sorry excuse hasn't saved the last ~5 major games from flopping.
Have to agree, this excuse has been used to death going back to the legendarily (probably not a real word) disastrous Anarchy Online launch. Not that I wish these people bad or anything, but people are doing this funny thing people do and putting this game up on a pedestal. It's not the Holy grail of games come to deliver us from WoW. Maybe it'll be nice, but it's not looking to be anything remotely revolutionary.
The difference here is that the patches already exist. We are playing on an early version 1.0 ; Korea retail is on v1.3.
On the beta forums they have also posted that we will get a higher version at release.
I think the problem is you (and many people) can't tell what is EQ or (as this game is most popular) WoW like type.
When every MMO game is almost the same, you start to think that WAR is much different than WoW, and so on. No, it's not. I play D&D Online, and know for sure it's not a clone of anything, nor that any game is similar. Maybe there will be DDO clones in future, but now - this is one of those games that when you played it, you know how similar are games like EQ, WoW, WAR, AION, LotrO, etc. Even AoC isn't much different - something like an EQ style game with some DDO elements, but not enough. Core gameplay is more like WoW or GW.
Oh, there is also Guild Wars type. Chronicles of Spellborn and AoC may be in that category. DDO isn't anything like those two as well.
So basically, you need to know well enough games that are really unique (played whole trial, or something like that) to tell which are so similar to EQ or WoW, that you may think they are based on the same engine.
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