I havent had a chance to try Aion yet......Like any other MMO, it is hard to get any feel for it from the boards......I have no idea if it is going to be another easy mode WoW clone, a PWI copy (ie flying as the main attraction), another Asian grinder, or a game that is unique and stands out on its own.......Im hoping to get in beta but i I dont I will most likely wait a long time before trying it......Im sorry but 4 million Asians playing it is not enough to convince me.
The killing/harassing a child prospect in Aion has been blow out of proportion in my opinion. After all, this is all in the eye of the beholder. The idiots who decide to 'capitalize' on this will most likely be banned.
Game-play and immersion-wise Aion just does not do it for me. Also, I expected a lot more from the visuals. This game is simply not good enough to compete with other games out there.
I have a child too and I'm all for protecting them from harm online. In fact my kid isn't allowed any online interaction at all and won't be for years to come.
The game is intended for adults and teens who can afford it or even allowed to play. People that already or should know how to avoid/report certain situations. These kid-like characters are not played by children. To me that's an important distinction and as pointed out many of the mini characters don't actually look like kids especially if they are sporting pointy ears or beards.
Also no one ever dies. Unless you quit your account forever. And I don't recall a whole lot of blood or gore. I'll have to watch for that.
EDIT: To the picture above, it's a bit misleading there and breaking NDA as that's not representative of the game at launch.... To be specific I'm talking about the name...
edit 2: To those who didn't SEE the NDA it was shown to you when you entered the beta key in your PlayNC account, no it's not flashing before you in the client. But you did agree to it as a tester.
This whole "kid" thing is hilarious to me, I have to admit.
"I dun wanna kill that person, they look like a child!"
"Are you insane?! That "kid" just sliced up half of our forces because they didn't want to hurt a kid either!"
"Yeah, well it still ain't mora-gah! *dies*"
If anything, I hope there's more people like that in the game, that way when I get the game, I'll make a child-like character, and kill each one who thinks that way... :P
You know what, with such a comment you are not better than the pedos.
People are always complaining about the lack of freedom and options in games. Give them more options and the idiots will always abuse the systems.
And then the weak brains with limited minds and views will come in with comments like these.
WTF people, this is about more freedom and options for everyone. When asshats abuse systems why do you need to troll around about it instead of posting constructive feedback and bug reports with suggestions on how to fix the issues on the beta forums?
You can't play kids, you just look like une when you make a very small character ... But you aren't one ... everyone knows that ... you are just a small huma, where is the problem ... Gnomes/Dwarves also look like kids (in certain configurations).
Actually I was trying for a "kender" type character x) otherwise I wouldn't have given her boobs. But yes, you can make them look young or old *points to old guy sitting in the back* I'm sure there are some RPers out there that might take this to disturbing levels but, you can't really control what people do in secret :x
You can control it, by eliminating the possibility to do it.
so is it wrong to play zelda now too since he is a child in many of the games.
The people who think its weird are probably the ones who have the dark secrets.
I've had many in depth discussions about this topic in the past and ultimately the overall outcome was that the ESRB would not give a rating to a game where you could kill children.
Let's not go much further other than to say;
you see a child like character and change it into sexual context, you are the one with the problem.
QUESTION: Quote: Originally Posted by Xridnasa: - What's a "grocery store"? Is that like McDonald's? - ANSWER: Quote: Originally Posted by sidimazz: - Kind of, just without the rapist.
You know what, with such a comment you are not better than the pedos.
People are always complaining about the lack of freedom and options in games. Give them more options and the idiots will always abuse the systems.
And then the weak brains with limited minds and views will come in with comments like these.
WTF people, this is about more freedom and options for everyone. When asshats abuse systems why do you need to troll around about it instead of posting constructive feedback and bug reports with suggestions on how to fix the issues on the beta forums?
For Chirst's sake guys, grow up.
Dude, its not a real child, its pixels, get a grip of yourself.
You know what, with such a comment you are not better than the pedos.
People are always complaining about the lack of freedom and options in games. Give them more options and the idiots will always abuse the systems.
And then the weak brains with limited minds and views will come in with comments like these.
WTF people, this is about more freedom and options for everyone. When asshats abuse systems why do you need to troll around about it instead of posting constructive feedback and bug reports with suggestions on how to fix the issues on the beta forums?
For Chirst's sake guys, grow up.
Dude, its not a real child, its pixels, get a grip of yourself.
I am not talking about the picture, I am commenting on "I think this picture pretty well sums Aion up".
well it is funny real children r staving to dead everyday and how many ppl give a damn ( face it everytime you see a child sposor commercial how many ppl actually have a thought about it). And now they r upset about some game toons might get killed?
well if it upset you that much just send a letter to NCsoft ask them allow you to customise the character age also ( who care if a 80 year old toon have a baby face right?)
I think the real issue here is that someone can name thier character pedophile and get away with it. The fact that your character can look like a child is a pointless arguement.
Halflings look like children, Hobbits look like children. So what if you kill a character that looks like a child? It isn't a child. It is the persona of a player. It is the persona you kill, it is then reborn and you get to kill it again.
It's the attitude that underlies what you're discussing that is the issue here. You could equally complain about people killing bears or tigers or rabbits in games as being cruel and heartless. Doing so in real life is. Unless you intend to eat them.
Life is about Living, Sleep is about Dreaming, Games are about Strategy!
Thats Aion China, a char named Pedophile wouldn't get away with it as long as the GMs understand what it means.
And Killing kids? These things we're playing are not supossed to be human, these things we're playing don't die, therefore, you don't kill kids, because none of them are kids (they are actually 130 years old, even the small ones) and because they never die because of being demigods.
Oh I think they know what it means, what really matters, is do they care. Obviously they don't. Just because they're not european doesn't mean they can't speak english or understand the words that are more likely to cause offence.
The singular fact that a char can be named like this, even in a beta, shows that no proper naming convention exists.
Hopefully the release will. Not that I'll play Aion on release either, personally, I don't like the graphics. I don't give a hoot for gameplay if the game looks childish. I'm a fickle person... hehe.
Life is about Living, Sleep is about Dreaming, Games are about Strategy!
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I havent had a chance to try Aion yet......Like any other MMO, it is hard to get any feel for it from the boards......I have no idea if it is going to be another easy mode WoW clone, a PWI copy (ie flying as the main attraction), another Asian grinder, or a game that is unique and stands out on its own.......Im hoping to get in beta but i I dont I will most likely wait a long time before trying it......Im sorry but 4 million Asians playing it is not enough to convince me.
The killing/harassing a child prospect in Aion has been blow out of proportion in my opinion. After all, this is all in the eye of the beholder. The idiots who decide to 'capitalize' on this will most likely be banned.
Game-play and immersion-wise Aion just does not do it for me. Also, I expected a lot more from the visuals. This game is simply not good enough to compete with other games out there.
I have a child too and I'm all for protecting them from harm online. In fact my kid isn't allowed any online interaction at all and won't be for years to come.
The game is intended for adults and teens who can afford it or even allowed to play. People that already or should know how to avoid/report certain situations. These kid-like characters are not played by children. To me that's an important distinction and as pointed out many of the mini characters don't actually look like kids especially if they are sporting pointy ears or beards.
Also no one ever dies. Unless you quit your account forever.
And I don't recall a whole lot of blood or gore. I'll have to watch for that.
EDIT: To the picture above, it's a bit misleading there and breaking NDA as that's not representative of the game at launch....
To be specific I'm talking about the name...
edit 2: To those who didn't SEE the NDA it was shown to you when you entered the beta key in your PlayNC account, no it's not flashing before you in the client. But you did agree to it as a tester.
(,,,)=^__^=(,,,)
This whole "kid" thing is hilarious to me, I have to admit.
"I dun wanna kill that person, they look like a child!"
"Are you insane?! That "kid" just sliced up half of our forces because they didn't want to hurt a kid either!"
"Yeah, well it still ain't mora-gah! *dies*"
If anything, I hope there's more people like that in the game, that way when I get the game, I'll make a child-like character, and kill each one who thinks that way... :P
You know what, with such a comment you are not better than the pedos.
People are always complaining about the lack of freedom and options in games. Give them more options and the idiots will always abuse the systems.
And then the weak brains with limited minds and views will come in with comments like these.
WTF people, this is about more freedom and options for everyone. When asshats abuse systems why do you need to troll around about it instead of posting constructive feedback and bug reports with suggestions on how to fix the issues on the beta forums?
For Chirst's sake guys, grow up.
You can't play kids, you just look like une when you make a very small character ... But you aren't one ... everyone knows that ... you are just a small huma, where is the problem ... Gnomes/Dwarves also look like kids (in certain configurations).
Eaglix
Oh, because I'm poking fun at an online video game that brings me down to the level of a child predator. Nice.
You can control it, by eliminating the possibility to do it.
so is it wrong to play zelda now too since he is a child in many of the games.
The people who think its weird are probably the ones who have the dark secrets.
So you really can create children in this game.
I've had many in depth discussions about this topic in the past and ultimately the overall outcome was that the ESRB would not give a rating to a game where you could kill children.
Let's not go much further other than to say;
you see a child like character and change it into sexual context, you are the one with the problem.
freedom of speech !!!!!
and
Freedom of Character Creation on Aion !!!
Let's start the campaign : DONT TOUCH MY AION !
QUESTION:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xridnasa:
-
What's a "grocery store"? Is that like McDonald's?
-
ANSWER:
Quote:
Originally Posted by sidimazz:
-
Kind of, just without the rapist.
You know what, with such a comment you are not better than the pedos.
People are always complaining about the lack of freedom and options in games. Give them more options and the idiots will always abuse the systems.
And then the weak brains with limited minds and views will come in with comments like these.
WTF people, this is about more freedom and options for everyone. When asshats abuse systems why do you need to troll around about it instead of posting constructive feedback and bug reports with suggestions on how to fix the issues on the beta forums?
For Chirst's sake guys, grow up.
Dude, its not a real child, its pixels, get a grip of yourself.
I think that's what most of the pedos tell the police about their stash.
You know what, with such a comment you are not better than the pedos.
People are always complaining about the lack of freedom and options in games. Give them more options and the idiots will always abuse the systems.
And then the weak brains with limited minds and views will come in with comments like these.
WTF people, this is about more freedom and options for everyone. When asshats abuse systems why do you need to troll around about it instead of posting constructive feedback and bug reports with suggestions on how to fix the issues on the beta forums?
For Chirst's sake guys, grow up.
Dude, its not a real child, its pixels, get a grip of yourself.
I am not talking about the picture, I am commenting on "I think this picture pretty well sums Aion up".
I think that's what most of the pedos tell the police about their stash.
It looks like a young woman. I must be getting blind.
well it is funny real children r staving to dead everyday and how many ppl give a damn ( face it everytime you see a child sposor commercial how many ppl actually have a thought about it). And now they r upset about some game toons might get killed?
well if it upset you that much just send a letter to NCsoft ask them allow you to customise the character age also ( who care if a 80 year old toon have a baby face right?)
I think the real issue here is that someone can name thier character pedophile and get away with it. The fact that your character can look like a child is a pointless arguement.
Halflings look like children, Hobbits look like children. So what if you kill a character that looks like a child? It isn't a child. It is the persona of a player. It is the persona you kill, it is then reborn and you get to kill it again.
It's the attitude that underlies what you're discussing that is the issue here. You could equally complain about people killing bears or tigers or rabbits in games as being cruel and heartless. Doing so in real life is. Unless you intend to eat them.
Life is about Living, Sleep is about Dreaming, Games are about Strategy!
Thats Aion China, a char named Pedophile wouldn't get away with it as long as the GMs understand what it means.
And Killing kids? These things we're playing are not supossed to be human, these things we're playing don't die, therefore, you don't kill kids, because none of them are kids (they are actually 130 years old, even the small ones) and because they never die because of being demigods.
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Oh I think they know what it means, what really matters, is do they care. Obviously they don't. Just because they're not european doesn't mean they can't speak english or understand the words that are more likely to cause offence.
The singular fact that a char can be named like this, even in a beta, shows that no proper naming convention exists.
Hopefully the release will. Not that I'll play Aion on release either, personally, I don't like the graphics. I don't give a hoot for gameplay if the game looks childish. I'm a fickle person... hehe.
Life is about Living, Sleep is about Dreaming, Games are about Strategy!