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Can someone explain this to me?

hubertgrovehubertgrove Member Posts: 1,141
in EVE Online

About a year and a half ago, I opened a paid account to play Eve.

I paid a month in advance and played for about a week.

I mapped out a little plan of progress for myself which was, nothing too original, all about mining.

I got enough for a small mining ship and started doing what all the other noobs do, zooming off to asteroid belts in safe-ish space, turning on the mining lasers and then watching TV for an hour or so.

Because I didn't have any contacts in game and because I found the GUI very cumbersome, I soon got bored and quit the game. By the time I left, I might have had around 100,000 credits or whatever the currency is called in my bank.

A year later, I thought I might try again.

So I reopened my subscription, downloaded the game once more, checked out my old character and his ship - and now I have 247,000,000 credits.

WtF? How did I get this money? Is it a lot of money? I have no idea.

Comments

  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342

    Congratz and welcome back :)

    Check your Wallet for transactions to find out where those ISK came from.

  • BastinBastin Member UncommonPosts: 4

    seems simple enough .. as you know there is not banking system in eve .. no interest..

    so what more then likely happened ... someone sent you money could have been anyone .. that was leaving the game and just choose a random person .. or .. a mistake. may want to check your mail .. maybe that person sent you a message. if not .. Enjoy .. it free isks.

    Oh .. and if you really don;t want the extra cash .. <grin> send it to me .. kalarain. I could always use the isk!

  • XennithXennith Member Posts: 1,244

    to be honest the reason you got bored was because you just mined :)

     

    open your wallet tab on the neocom (bar down the left) and select the "journal" tab at the top of that window, set the from and to dates to the date you left and click the "load" button on the right hand side of the window, it will show you all the transactions for your account and should explain where the cash came from.

  • demolishIXdemolishIX Member Posts: 632

     Your lucky ,when ever I return to EVE or sometimes when I log on ,all I get is hate and threat mails.

  • hubertgrovehubertgrove Member Posts: 1,141
    Originally posted by Xennith


    to be honest the reason you got bored was because you just mined :)
     
    open your wallet tab on the neocom (bar down the left) and select the "journal" tab at the top of that window, set the from and to dates to the date you left and click the "load" button on the right hand side of the window, it will show you all the transactions for your account and should explain where the cash came from.



     

    Thank you, I'll check that.

  • EnkinduEnkindu Member Posts: 1,098

    I'm willing to bet you have a screen name that has some very close variations used by other players in the game..

    Someone probably made a typo when they were sending ISK to an alt or friend.

    Let us know what you find out- and congrats on winning the noob lottery : )

    deviliscious: (PS. I have been told that when I use scientific language, it does not make me sound more intelligent, it only makes me sound like a jackass. It makes me appear that I am not knowledgable enough in the subject I am discussing to be able to translate it for people outside the field to understand. Some advice you might consider as well)

  • hubertgrovehubertgrove Member Posts: 1,141
    Originally posted by hubertgrove

    Originally posted by Xennith


    to be honest the reason you got bored was because you just mined :)
     
    open your wallet tab on the neocom (bar down the left) and select the "journal" tab at the top of that window, set the from and to dates to the date you left and click the "load" button on the right hand side of the window, it will show you all the transactions for your account and should explain where the cash came from.



     

    Thank you, I'll check that.



     

    I have opened the wallet tab and selected the 'journal' tab - but I can't see how to set any 'from' and 'to' dates. There is just one 'date' field. I am interested in finding out where this money came from.

     

    The precise figure is 263, 976, 380.0 ISK

  • XennithXennith Member Posts: 1,244

    set that date to the middle of 2003 or so, should then give you all the data on your account.

  • hubertgrovehubertgrove Member Posts: 1,141
    Originally posted by Xennith


    set that date to the middle of 2003 or so, should then give you all the data on your account.



     

    Thanks. Tried that. I set the date to 2006.10.03 then pressed 'Load' anbd waited... And n o transactions were listed at all. That's strange. Not even my old mining sales.

  • XennithXennith Member Posts: 1,244

    did you set it to journal or transactions?

     

    you want journal, but its possible that your data got deleted after a year of activity or something. i guess you just have to accept your good fortune :) congrats.

  • qazymanqazyman Member Posts: 1,785

    I don't think transactions stay listed forever, but it had to be a mistake someone made. Either that or someone was really happy to see you go. It's a fair amount but not over the top. Probably about 2 tech 2 fitted battleships.

  • CodenakCodenak Member UncommonPosts: 418

    To be absolutely sure of the isk, open a petition querying where the isk came from. CCP will ban any account found to have received RMT cash unless you do this, doesnt matter if the account holder actually bought it or not, they have no way to make that distinction. A player would have petitioned to get the isk back in all probability, RMTers don't, and you dont want your account banned. RMTers have been known to dump isk on someone and get them banned, if they were a thorn in their side, so if you get isk infusions from unknown sources its always best to raise a petition.

    F2P/P2P excellent thread.
    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/282517/F2P-An-Engineers-perspective.html

  • EnkinduEnkindu Member Posts: 1,098
    Originally posted by Codenak


    To be absolutely sure of the isk, open a petition querying where the isk came from. CCP will ban any account found to have received RMT cash unless you do this, doesnt matter if the account holder actually bought it or not, they have no way to make that distinction. A player would have petitioned to get the isk back in all probability, RMTers don't, and you dont want your account banned. RMTers have been known to dump isk on someone and get them banned, if they were a thorn in their side, so if you get isk infusions from unknown sources its always best to raise a petition.

     

    Actually this is absolutely correct.  Glad you had your thinking cap on Code.

    deviliscious: (PS. I have been told that when I use scientific language, it does not make me sound more intelligent, it only makes me sound like a jackass. It makes me appear that I am not knowledgable enough in the subject I am discussing to be able to translate it for people outside the field to understand. Some advice you might consider as well)

  • hubertgrovehubertgrove Member Posts: 1,141
    Originally posted by qazyman


    I don't think transactions stay listed forever, but it had to be a mistake someone made. Either that or someone was really happy to see you go. It's a fair amount but not over the top. Probably about 2 tech 2 fitted battleships.



     

    He he. But I didn't even talk to anyone in game the first time I played.

  • hubertgrovehubertgrove Member Posts: 1,141
    Originally posted by Enkindu

    Originally posted by Codenak


    To be absolutely sure of the isk, open a petition querying where the isk came from. CCP will ban any account found to have received RMT cash unless you do this, doesnt matter if the account holder actually bought it or not, they have no way to make that distinction. A player would have petitioned to get the isk back in all probability, RMTers don't, and you dont want your account banned. RMTers have been known to dump isk on someone and get them banned, if they were a thorn in their side, so if you get isk infusions from unknown sources its always best to raise a petition.

     

    Actually this is absolutely correct.  Glad you had your thinking cap on Code.



     

    I may be stupid but I'm not crazy so, no, I'm not going to do that. If it's duped or 'RMT'(?) cash, I will leave CCP's own systems to track it down. I have no intention of contacting some trigger-happy GM in Bangalore or Bogheddmudsdottir with the intrinsically unbelievable story 'Duh! I logged on one day and all this dough was in the trunk of my ship...'. Sorry, I'm not a narc. CCP has had a year and my account has been in plain sight. If they have'nt found the money is counterfeit in that time, they're not going to now - and I have no intention of prompting them either way.

    Re-edit for the question - You say 'RMTers have been known to dump isk on someone', do you have any evidence for this or any examples of people doing this? Any links at all? I would be interested in knowing if this were true.

  • CodenakCodenak Member UncommonPosts: 418

    and if you get hooked on eve this time around (tip: join a corp its where the fun is) you have the sword of damocles hanging over your account and probably your IP address too.

     

    But its up to you.

     

    Edit: Oh and the gm's have removed titans from alliances, after it was found that they'd been gained using RMT or exploits, they also banned the accounts. Ask people in KIA.

    F2P/P2P excellent thread.
    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/282517/F2P-An-Engineers-perspective.html

  • hubertgrovehubertgrove Member Posts: 1,141
    Originally posted by Codenak


    and if you get hooked on eve this time around (tip: join a corp its where the fun is) you have the sword of damocles hanging over your account and probably your IP address too.
     
    But its up to you.
     
    Edit: Oh and the gm's have removed titans from alliances, after it was found that they'd been gained using RMT or exploits, they also banned the accounts. Ask people in KIA.



     

    Thanks, but I'll take the risk. If I have somehow got an unfair advantage then, by george, I'm going to keep it.

  • EnkinduEnkindu Member Posts: 1,098

    You are wise to be wary of any advice you get in or about eve... but here the advice is sound.

    With the amount of time that has passed I'm damn near 100% sure that a GM will let you keep the cash if it was the result of a "transfer typo" and nothing more.  Anyone who really wanted it back would have petitioned for it by now.

    On the other hand, if you play this character to the point where you have billions in assets (not that hard to do) and tens of millions of skillpoints,  you could lose it ALL if that money turns out to be from an ISK seller that gets investigated down the road.

    In the grand scheme of eve, a couple hundred mil is chump change...

    The choice is yours of course, but better to risk losing the ISK than risk losing your entire account.

    In any case welcome back and drop me a line in game if you need anything.

    deviliscious: (PS. I have been told that when I use scientific language, it does not make me sound more intelligent, it only makes me sound like a jackass. It makes me appear that I am not knowledgable enough in the subject I am discussing to be able to translate it for people outside the field to understand. Some advice you might consider as well)

  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342

    Originally posted by Enkindu
    You are wise to be wary of any advice you get in or about eve... but here the advice is sound.
    With the amount of time that has passed I'm damn near 100% sure that a GM will let you keep the cash if it was the result of a "transfer typo" and nothing more.  Anyone who really wanted it back would have petitioned for it by now.
    On the other hand, if you play this character to the point where you have billions in assets (not that hard to do) and tens of millions of skillpoints,  you could lose it ALL if that money turns out to be from an ISK seller that gets investigated down the road.
    In the grand scheme of eve, a couple hundred mil is chump change...
    The choice is yours of course, but better to risk losing the ISK than risk losing your entire account.
    In any case welcome back and drop me a line in game if you need anything.

    OP:
    Yeah, CCP can be unbelievable stupid, lazy and incompetent....just keep that on mind.

  • hubertgrovehubertgrove Member Posts: 1,141
    Originally posted by Enkindu


    You are wise to be wary of any advice you get in or about eve... but here the advice is sound.
    With the amount of time that has passed I'm damn near 100% sure that a GM will let you keep the cash if it was the result of a "transfer typo" and nothing more.  Anyone who really wanted it back would have petitioned for it by now.
    On the other hand, if you play this character to the point where you have billions in assets (not that hard to do) and tens of millions of skillpoints,  you could lose it ALL if that money turns out to be from an ISK seller that gets investigated down the road.
    In the grand scheme of eve, a couple hundred mil is chump change...
    The choice is yours of course, but better to risk losing the ISK than risk losing your entire account.
    In any case welcome back and drop me a line in game if you need anything.



     

    Actually, I just uninstalled the game again. I played it for a couple of hours and remembered how monotonous it all was. Pity there isn't some kind of banking or share scheme where I could have point the quarter-bil on deposit until I decided to try the game again in a year's time.

    Thanks to all those who gave advice.

  • TaramTaram Member CommonPosts: 1,700
    Originally posted by Codenak


    and if you get hooked on eve this time around (tip: join a corp its where the fun is) you have the sword of damocles hanging over your account and probably your IP address too.
     
    But its up to you.
     
    Edit: Oh and the gm's have removed titans from alliances, after it was found that they'd been gained using RMT or exploits, they also banned the accounts. Ask people in KIA.

     

    It wasn't KIA there genius... it was Daisho.  But yes... it's happened.

     

    To the OP:

    It's entirely up to you.  The GM's, though they seem to get a bad rap about a lot, are generally very fair.  If the cash isn't RMT money they won't take it.  As a matter of fact even if it was a typo they won't take it.  Only way you lose it is if it's RMT money... if you report it yourself.... nothing bad happens... if you don't report it, and it's RMT and you spend it, and for some reason down the line they realize it was RMT you probably won't get banned but they WILL deduct the full ammt from your acct.  Which could potentially land you at a negative balance... which is a really tough spot to get out of.

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