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Why would I pay a movie theater?

I can download the movie for free and enjoy it in the comfort of my home. What does the theater offer?

- Watered down soda, limited to one brand.

- Overpriced bad popcorn filled with poison and touched by degenerate teenage counter jokeys.

- Uncomfortable environment in which no smoking is allowed and there are always a few drunk teens making a racket.

So, why in the world would anyone pay for such a horrible service? I for one will not participate in this torture mascaraeding as entertainment. Offer me a pay download and I'll probably pay. Fail to do that, and we'll be doing it my way.



 

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182

    It sucks we don't have Netflix over here, would be great because of the Xbox 360 Netflix offer.

  • Rayx0rRayx0r Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,902
    Originally posted by Gameloading


    It sucks we don't have Netflix over here, would be great because of the Xbox 360 Netflix offer.



     

    me and my fiance use netflix all the time.  We also have a 360 and its really nice to queue up a bunch of movies and watch em whenever.  The audio isnt that great on the xbox videos, but then again most of the instant watch movies are of lower quality anyway.  Its nice to have when your home sick

    sorry you guys dont get that GL.  However Id expect MS or Sony to expand on this more in the future.

     

    @OP

    I still love going to the theater.  I usually go on the weekends early, like 11am.  If I have to go at night, i do it on the weekdays.  Mondays and tuesdays are good.  I hate over crowded theaters.   Tickets for movies before noon are only $4.  Nothing beats the theater for sound and picture (that is if the theater is equipped properly).  Watching movies in the theater.. to me anyway.. is much more immersive.  I dont have any outside distractions and it puts me in an environment specifically for absorbing yourself into a film.

    btw.. go see Drag Me to Hell if you havnt yet. 

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  • Jimmy_ScytheJimmy_Scythe Member CommonPosts: 3,586

    Mostly just to get out of the house.

    There's also the fact that most pirated movies of theatrical releases are just shit for quality. Street price for pirated "in theater" movies is like $10 and that's for the privlege of watching someone else's home movies of their trip to the movies. The end result is that the camcorder washes out the color and records all the speaker reverb making it difficult to both see and hear a movie, which is kind of the point of watching a movie. The worst part is that even if you decide to download the movie after it gets released to DVD, you're still only going to find the camcorder shit because no one even bothered to properly rip the God damn DVD!!

    It's a good thing that I can rent movies at a dollar for five days here. Although new releases are $3 for one night. And if it's on cable I can just record it when it comes on HBO and burn it off later.

    It's not like you don't have alternatives here.

  • sephersepher Member Posts: 3,561

    You should probably reevaluate whether you really do feel better alone at home watching a cam recording of an audience watching a movie more than being in the audience yourself.

    And if you really do, then well you're unique. I don't have a lot of memorable experiences watching a movie in my office chair, but I have plenty from this year alone of dinner and theater outings.

  • popinjaypopinjay Member Posts: 6,539

    Four Netflix movies plan a month ftw.

    I don't even remember the last actual opening premiere I saw.

  • CleffyCleffy Member RarePosts: 6,414

    You are missing out on one aspect.  iMax theaters.

  • popinjaypopinjay Member Posts: 6,539


    Originally posted by Cleffy
    You are missing out on one aspect.  iMax theaters.


    They make my wife dizzy. :( We went to see a IMAX at the Liberty Science Center in Jersey City and she almost hurled on the people below us. We took some really good shots there with the WTC in the background from across the river. (obviously before it was blown up).


    50 inch plasma, Bose, a blu-ray player and free snacks/drinks are good enough for us.

  • MunkiMunki Member CommonPosts: 2,128
    Originally posted by Mangaloid


    always a few drunk teens making a racket.

    Im sorry; but thats how I justify paying.

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  • WickershamWickersham Member UncommonPosts: 2,379

    I prefer to see some movies on the big screen - the most obvious are the 3D movies which are becoming popular again, but there are also a mindless spectacle movies that lose their charm when they're reduced in size.

    I bring my own food and drink to the movie theater.  I know that, as far as the theatre is concerned, that it's wrong of me, but I think that charging people 6 times (yes 6 times!!!!) the actual value of a product is even more wrong - I consider it to be in the same spirit as price gouging.  Also, forcing paying customers to watch non-movie related advertisements before the movie starts and not sharing the money made from it with your customers by lowering ticket sales is wrong too.  I'm not suggesting that I'm right to sneak food in I'm just explaining that I have a hard time sympathising with the plight of the owners and so I'll pay full price for my ticket and leave it to the employees which they hired to catch me with outside food and then refund my ticket when they do.

    I learned that if you go during the late morning to early afternoon you avoid the annoying kids, teens, and younger adults.  Also, if there is an IMAX version and a normal version of the movie - pick the normal one that plays slightly after the IMAX one.  Everybody chooses the IMAX version and you get a full theatre all to yourself.  The IMAX one is not real IMAX anyway...

    Edit:  Also, I don't have a TV, when mine broke I didn't replace it right away and found that I could live without it so I have to watch movies at my desk on a monitor.

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  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457

    I like it when the whole pub goes.

    300 drunks take over the cinema. Smoke spliffs drink beers and watch the films.

     

    I've got some limited home cinema action these days, but I never went to the cinema anyway. A lot of people really enjoy it, but I can't face the price tag.

    I'd rather sit in an air conditioned bar for a few hours staring at the barmaids breasts for the same money. The movies always end up on TV anyway. I'm in no rush.

  • BrianshoBriansho Member UncommonPosts: 3,586

    I usually wait about 1-2 weeks after a movie comes out before I go near a theater. My friends can't understand why I won't go on release night/weekend. Few reasons: 

    1. Crowded

    2. People acting ghetto and talking out loud about every scene.

    3. People talking on cell phone describing phat scenes to the friend.

    4. Sticky floor and funk inside the theater.

    5. People yelling out ghetto dribble and think they are funny.

    6. People who bring 1 month old to an R movie then the kid starts screaming bloody murder from the loud noises and they refuse to leave.

    7. Food too expensive and sometimes nasty.

    I rarely go to the theater now unless its something I really really want to see right away. I'm moving more towards waiting for stuff on blu-ray because my TV looks a lot better than the scratched/slashed/dirty movie screen. Plus most movies come out on blu-ray pretty quick now these days.

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  • HYPERI0NHYPERI0N Member Posts: 3,515

    I love going to the cinema for the occasional good film. Top tip to the OP wait for say 2-3 weeks after a film is released that way you will almost be the only person watching it so the room is quiet and you get a decent seat.

     

    And if you dont like there soda or snacks then just smuggle in your own.

     

    I feel tho that movies are just not the same on a TV or monitor screen when compared to  the big screen.

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  • Jimmy_ScytheJimmy_Scythe Member CommonPosts: 3,586
    Originally posted by HYPERI0N


    I feel tho that movies are just not the same on a TV or monitor screen when compared to  the big screen.

     

    Yeah, but LCD projectors are getting to be just as cheap as a big screen HDTV. Clear one wall of your living room, position the projector just right and hook up a couple of big Kenwood speakers and you basically have the theater experience without any of the bullshit of an actual theater.

  • popinjaypopinjay Member Posts: 6,539

    Food smugglers. Shame, shame.

    Pretty soon, they'll have "security" to check your bags for "weapons" and just happen to notice your stuff during it and tell you to throw it out. If the theatre made me throw my food out, I'd be pissed and don't know if I'd want to watch the movie after that.

    I don't agree with the rationale that because they are showing you adverstising in the coming attractions or whatever, that smuggling in food "evens out" the field. If you don't want to buy their food, don't. But most people smuggling food in are the same people who are complaining about how dirty the floors are and they are usually the culprits, leaving their smuggled crap right under the seats.

    Next time if you dare, look under the rows and you'll see everything from KFC to McDonald's and lots of homemade food like someone was having a friggin picnic. I used to hate when people brought ethnic food to the movie, and then the stinking whiffs of it got all caught up in the ventilation system. I don't want to experience smelly eggrolls while I'm watching a Jackie Chan movie. That's just no consideration for other patrons.


    I mean, it's not supposed to shown in "Smellavision", right?

  • ReklawReklaw Member UncommonPosts: 6,495

    Last month we bought the cinema 21: 9, awesome picture, but still aslong movie theater show movies on a screen that do not fit my house I will continue to visit them, especialy when it's Sci-Fi. But will admit that the only time we really enjoy going to the movies is when going to Amsterdam anjd going to the cinema that has lovers seats ( two seaters) and mostly go at the latest hours.

  • WickershamWickersham Member UncommonPosts: 2,379
    Originally posted by popinjay


    Food smugglers. Shame, shame.
     
     
    Pretty soon, they'll have "security" to check your bags for "weapons" and just happen to notice your stuff during it and tell you to throw it out. If the theatre made me throw my food out, I'd be pissed and don't know if I'd want to watch the movie after that.
     
     
    I don't agree with the rationale that because they are showing you adverstising in the coming attractions or whatever, that smuggling in food "evens out" the field. If you don't want to buy their food, don't. But most people smuggling food in are the same people who are complaining about how dirty the floors are and they are usually the culprits, leaving their smuggled crap right under the seats.
     
     
    Next time if you dare, look under the rows and you'll see everything from KFC to McDonald's and lots of homemade food like someone was having a friggin picnic. I used to hate when people brought ethnic food to the movie, and then the stinking whiffs of it got all caught up in the ventilation system. I don't want to experience smelly eggrolls while I'm watching a Jackie Chan movie. That's just no consideration for other patrons.
     


    I mean, it's not supposed to shown in "Smellavision", right?



     

    Is it because "Jackie Chan" is "ethnic" Chinese that you feel he would "stink" like "smelly eggroles" in "Smellavision"?

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  • popinjaypopinjay Member Posts: 6,539


    Originally posted by Wickersham

    Originally posted by popinjay

    Food smugglers. Shame, shame.
     
     
    Pretty soon, they'll have "security" to check your bags for "weapons" and just happen to notice your stuff during it and tell you to throw it out. If the theatre made me throw my food out, I'd be pissed and don't know if I'd want to watch the movie after that.
     
     
    I don't agree with the rationale that because they are showing you adverstising in the coming attractions or whatever, that smuggling in food "evens out" the field. If you don't want to buy their food, don't. But most people smuggling food in are the same people who are complaining about how dirty the floors are and they are usually the culprits, leaving their smuggled crap right under the seats.
     
     
    Next time if you dare, look under the rows and you'll see everything from KFC to McDonald's and lots of homemade food like someone was having a friggin picnic. I used to hate when people brought ethnic food to the movie, and then the stinking whiffs of it got all caught up in the ventilation system. I don't want to experience smelly eggrolls while I'm watching a Jackie Chan movie. That's just no consideration for other patrons.
     

    I mean, it's not supposed to shown in "Smellavision", right?


     
    Is it because "Jackie Chan" is "ethnic" Chinese that you feel he would "stink" like "smelly eggroles" in "Smellavision"?


    I've seen White people bring fried chicken to the theatre. I've seen Black people bring Chinese food to the theatre. I've seen Asian people bring McDonald's and Arby's. The ethnicity of the person has nothing to do with the type of food they bring or how people are "stink", in your words. When you walk through Chinatown, do you smell linguini with clam sauce, spicy bratwurst, kimchi or freshly baked bagels? Or do you smell cooked rice and other ethnic foods typical of Chinese cuisine?


    Cut it out and stop trying to be a you-know-what. You're not that clever and I'm not that type of person. You're wasting your time so put away your paintbrush. Apparently, this is a new tactic for you but clearly it's not becoming.


    When I smell eggrolls while watching a Jackie Chan movie, yeah.. it would make it seem like "Smellavision" especially as he does plenty of in-China period movies. Just like if I was watching "Gandhi" set in India and someone snuck in curried chicken, which people do. And no, I don't want my movie experience THAT precise, thank you very much. Popcorn and candy smells are just fine.


    Trying to justify a business advertising as a way to bring their own food is silly. You bought the ticket, that does not give you the right to bring your BBQ in there too. Get your butt up and wait in the lobby if you don't want to see the ads, no one makes you sit there... go play a videogame in the lobby. The rule is also for these types of reasons, not just the movie wants to "rip you off"; other patrons don't want to smell things you pull out your knapsack that smells crappy and unpleasant inside a closed-in, darkened space when the rules clearly say it's prohibited.

  • ThrakkThrakk Member Posts: 1,226
    Originally posted by Mangaloid


    I can download the movie for free and enjoy it in the comfort of my home. What does the theater offer?
    - Watered down soda, limited to one brand.

    - Overpriced bad popcorn filled with poison and touched by degenerate teenage counter jokeys.

    - Uncomfortable environment in which no smoking is allowed and there are always a few drunk teens making a racket.
    So, why in the world would anyone pay for such a horrible service? I for one will not participate in this torture mascaraeding as entertainment. Offer me a pay download and I'll probably pay. Fail to do that, and we'll be doing it my way.


     

     

    I can't imagine having as much fun watching a video taped version of Drag Me To Hell, on a computer screen - no matter what size it is, no matter what quality the guy pirating the movie has on his video camera.

    That movie was meant to be on a big screen. The scarey parts are more scarey on a giant screen away from the comfort of your own home.

    Watered down soda? I think it is the same soda as everywhere else.

    Overpriced? - use the computer terminals and buy a child ticket for $7. I have yet to be caught going in to AMC with a child ticket. I talk up the ticket taker when I give him the ticket to rip off. If I have a group of tickets I put the child tickets at the bottom. Wednesdays have free popcorn for movie watcher members. You can get pretty good deals using the movie watcher cards when you buy your tickets; like all sorts of candy for $1.

    You can also bring your own food and drink into the theater. They never busted my nuts over that either. I have never brought ethnic food. Usually just candy and maybe a drink I had from the food court. One time I ate Burger King tenders before the movie started.

    Do you really have to have a smoke during a movie?

    Noisy people... the only let down.

  • ThrakkThrakk Member Posts: 1,226

    I watched every episode of Boondocks Season 2 a couple weeks ago (I paid for the DVDs).

    The first episode is awesome. It is about sneaking in the movies...

    watch the whole episode here on pretty good quality. It was a pretty funny episode.

    vodpod.com/watch/1324230-the-boondocks-season-2-ep-1-or-die-trying

  • WickershamWickersham Member UncommonPosts: 2,379

    I stand by what I typed and I'll leave it with you and your subconscious self.

    As far as my bringing outside food in...  it's not stealing...  It's not tresspassing...  it's not a law...  it's not even a contract...  i don't believe they have the moral or ethical right to invent a rule just so they can use that rule to circumvent the capitalist rule of supply and demand.  If they want me to purchase their goods over that of another supplier then they need to reduce their price to something more competitive.

    How do you feel about the smell of pizza, nachos, or chili dogs?  because all of these things are also available at the concession stand in the theater near me.

    As far as me not viewing the ads...  I'm in the theater at the time they say the movie is going to start but instead of watching the movie I paid to see I'm watching several non-movie related commercials that I don't want to see.

    I don't have any guilt about buying a box of Mike and Ike and a bottle of Coke at a Dollar Store and walking past their consession stand that sells that same coke for $3.00 and that same Mike and Ike for $6.00.

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  • War_EagleWar_Eagle Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 472
    Originally posted by Briansho


    I usually wait about 1-2 weeks after a movie comes out before I go near a theater. My friends can't understand why I won't go on release night/weekend. Few reasons: 
    1. Crowded
    2. People acting ghetto and talking out loud about every scene.
    3. People talking on cell phone describing phat scenes to the friend.
    4. Sticky floor and funk inside the theater.
    5. People yelling out ghetto dribble and think they are funny.
    6. People who bring 1 month old to an R movie then the kid starts screaming bloody murder from the loud noises and they refuse to leave.
    7. Food too expensive and sometimes nasty.
    I rarely go to the theater now unless its something I really really want to see right away. I'm moving more towards waiting for stuff on blu-ray because my TV looks a lot better than the scratched/slashed/dirty movie screen. Plus most movies come out on blu-ray pretty quick now these days.

    I remember when I couldn't stand rednecks.  Lately though, they've not been such a problem.  It is the ghetto crowd that is taking over the spot of annoyance in my world.  I know exactly what you're talking about.  I went to see Star Trek a few weeks ago and I seriously wanted my money back after going through that.  There were about 3 groups of ghetto punks in the theater who ruined it for everyone.  And I think they were proud of it.  They were actually yelling stuff across the theater to each others group.  It's like they were there just to cause trouble. 

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  • popinjaypopinjay Member Posts: 6,539


    Originally posted by Wickersham

    I stand by what I typed and I'll leave it with you and your subconscious self.Ummm..ok?
    As far as my bringing outside food in...  it's not stealing...Irrelevant.  It's not tresspassing...Irrelevant.  it's not a law...Ridiculous.  it's not even a contract...Extremely ridiculous  i don't believe they have the moral or ethical right to invent a rule just so they can use that rule to circumvent the capitalist rule of supply and demand.If only this was the Hague, you'd get a standing ovation for that ridiculous logic. As it is, it's a place of business and you are obliged to follow regulations and policies of the establishment. Their policy is clear "No outside food or drinks", just like no shoes, no shirt, no service. Policy. If you are caught, you do not have the right to stay and protest as it's their business' policy. They are legally justified in having your butt removed from the theatre WITHOUT refund for doing so.  If they want me to purchase their goods over that of another supplier then they need to reduce their price to something more competitive.They are there to sell tickets. Their main goal is not to get you to eat; that's extra gravy on top of the ticket. You are not required to eat and drink in the theatre. If you don't want to buy their fare, don't. Eat what you like before or after, but not bring your own during. It's against policy, just like you can't decide you don't like the policy on MMORPG and change it because you don't like their advertising of F2P games.
    How do you feel about the smell of pizza, nachos, or chili dogs?  because all of these things are also available at the concession stand in the theater near me.If I did not like the smell of those things, I am not bound to suffer through a movie. I know clearly before I enter, there are hotdogs, pizza, and nacho served. It's in clear sight as you enter. If I don't like the smell, I can ask for a refund and will probably get one. But I can't do that everytime I go, just as you cannot bring food everytime you go against their policy.
    As far as me not viewing the ads...  I'm in the theater at the time they say the movie is going to start but instead of watching the movie I paid to see I'm watching several non-movie related commercials that I don't want to see.Okay, now that's very ridiculous. Because the movie doesn't start on time, you are allowed to bring your own food? Wha?
    I don't have any guilt about buying a box of Mike and Ike and a bottle of Coke at a Dollar Store and walking past their consession stand that sells that same coke for $3.00 and that same Mike and Ike for $6.00.Clearly you have no respect. You've shown that. But that is not the issue. What is the issue is if you say it's okay to bring that in, then someone else brings in Wendy's, and someone else brings in a picnic basket. That's why the theatre doesn't leave it up to the customers to decide what kind of outside food is okay to bring in. It's a movie theatre, not a dining room. No one forces you to buy their food. What is it about your metabolism as an adult that you can't simply wait until you get out or eat beforehand, instead of acting like a 7 year old who has to eat NOW? Most adults respect each other's businesses, properties and right to make a profit because they'd like the same respect by their customers. Again, you don't HAVE to buy. It may not be a law, but it's the tacky thing a teen or child would do, not adults. And since you were talking morals earlier, it's morally and ethically wrong.


  • MunkiMunki Member CommonPosts: 2,128
    Originally posted by popinjay


     

    Originally posted by Wickersham
     
    I stand by what I typed and I'll leave it with you and your subconscious self.Ummm..ok?

    As far as my bringing outside food in...  it's not stealing...Irrelevant.  It's not tresspassing...Irrelevant.  it's not a law...Ridiculous.  it's not even a contract...Extremely ridiculous  i don't believe they have the moral or ethical right to invent a rule just so they can use that rule to circumvent the capitalist rule of supply and demand.If only this was the Hague, you'd get a standing ovation for that ridiculous logic. As it is, it's a place of business and you are obliged to follow regulations and policies of the establishment. Their policy is clear "No outside food or drinks", just like no shoes, no shirt, no service. Policy. If you are caught, you do not have the right to stay and protest as it's their business' policy. They are legally justified in having your butt removed from the theatre WITHOUT refund for doing so.  If they want me to purchase their goods over that of another supplier then they need to reduce their price to something more competitive.They are there to sell tickets. Their main goal is not to get you to eat; that's extra gravy on top of the ticket. You are not required to eat and drink in the theatre. If you don't want to buy their fare, don't. Eat what you like before or after, but not bring your own during. It's against policy, just like you can't decide you don't like the policy on MMORPG and change it because you don't like their advertising of F2P games.

    How do you feel about the smell of pizza, nachos, or chili dogs?  because all of these things are also available at the concession stand in the theater near me.If I did not like the smell of those things, I am not bound to suffer through a movie. I know clearly before I enter, there are hotdogs, pizza, and nacho served. It's in clear sight as you enter. If I don't like the smell, I can ask for a refund and will probably get one. But I can't do that everytime I go, just as you cannot bring food everytime you go against their policy.

    As far as me not viewing the ads...  I'm in the theater at the time they say the movie is going to start but instead of watching the movie I paid to see I'm watching several non-movie related commercials that I don't want to see.Okay, now that's very ridiculous. Because the movie doesn't start on time, you are allowed to bring your own food? Wha?

    I don't have any guilt about buying a box of Mike and Ike and a bottle of Coke at a Dollar Store and walking past their consession stand that sells that same coke for $3.00 and that same Mike and Ike for $6.00.Clearly you have no respect. You've shown that. But that is not the issue. What is the issue is if you say it's okay to bring that in, then someone else brings in Wendy's, and someone else brings in a picnic basket. That's why the theatre doesn't leave it up to the customers to decide what kind of outside food is okay to bring in. It's a movie theatre, not a dining room. No one forces you to buy their food. What is it about your metabolism as an adult that you can't simply wait until you get out or eat beforehand, instead of acting like a 7 year old who has to eat NOW? Most adults respect each other's businesses, properties and right to make a profit because they'd like the same respect by their customers. Again, you don't HAVE to buy. It may not be a law, but it's the tacky thing a teen or child would do, not adults. And since you were talking morals earlier, it's morally and ethically wrong.

     

    How about this.

    When my bottle of coke interferes with the ability of other movie goers to enjoy the movie. I'll stop.

    Saying that somebody brings their own bottle of pop will lead to people bringing smelly fast food into a movie theater is a slippery slope logical fallacy and you know that Popin; Shame on you :P

    Letting somebody with a can of pop in, and letting somebody in with a full meal that smells strongly is very different. There is an easily definable line between the two.

    There is no logical argument you can make that one leads to the other.

    As for them selling tickets. Thats is false. 

    Just like a gas station makes dribble from selling you gas, the movie theater, especially for big budget movies, makes very small amounts of money on the actual ticket sales. The opening week, over 50% (I beleive 80% for big hollywoods) of the ticket sales go directly to the movie producers, that % shrinks in successive weeks.

    The majority of their operations is sustained on concession sales.

    As for kicking you out for bringing in outside food. They could kick you out over a chocolate bar, and yes they could get away with it. But They wouldn't do it.

    Why? Because you would complain, you'd make a racket, the movie goers would be frustrated and stressed out and they would probably goto another theater.

    The policy is mostly in place because they have nothing to lose. They know that even if they never enforce the rule, it will still dissuade some poeple from brinnging in food and they will see an increase in food sales.

    I know first hand, I have a friend who runs a large movie theater; the sign is simply there to give them a scape goat to remove people with obnoxious food (such as your Wendy's examples) or to dissuade that odd person with a very rigid moral compass to buy their food.

     

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  • popinjaypopinjay Member Posts: 6,539


    Originally posted by Munki

    How about this.
    When my bottle of coke interferes with the ability of other movie goers to enjoy the movie. I'll stop.
    Saying that somebody brings their own bottle of pop will lead to people bringing smelly fast food into a movie theater is a slippery slope logical fallacy and you know that Popin; Shame on you :P
    Letting somebody with a can of pop in, and letting somebody in with a full meal that smells strongly is very different. There is an easily definable line between the two.
    There is no logical argument you can make that one leads to the other.
    As for them selling tickets. Thats is false. 
    Just like a gas station makes dribble from selling you gas, the movie theater, especially for big budget movies, makes very small amounts of money on the actual ticket sales. The opening week, over 50% (I beleive 80% for big hollywoods) of the ticket sales go directly to the movie producers, that % shrinks in successive weeks.
    The majority of their operations is sustained on concession sales.
    As for kicking you out for bringing in outside food. They could kick you out over a chocolate bar, and yes they could get away with it. But They wouldn't do it.
    Why? Because you would complain, you'd make a racket, the movie goers would be frustrated and stressed out and they would probably goto another theater.
    The policy is mostly in place because they have nothing to lose. They know that even if they never enforce the rule, it will still dissuade some poeple from brinnging in food and they will see an increase in food sales.
    I know first hand, I have a friend who runs a large movie theater; the sign is simply there to give them a scape goat to remove people with obnoxious food (such as your Wendy's examples) or to dissuade that odd person with a very rigid moral compass to buy their food.



    Slippery logic? The first thing someone does when they get rousted for something is "Look at that guy over there! He brought in stuff and you said nothing. Wtf?" That's because one person brought a soda and one person brought a burger. That's where stupid lawsuits come from because they allow a Coke in a can in but not a Big Gulp slurpee/slushy.


    Now you can say there's a difference; yeah, that's the type of refreshment. But they both are still against the regulations. Look, if you want to defend bringing in stuff that's fine. But you are dead wrong by trying to justify it when you know it's clearly against the management and owner's wishes.

    Again, most law abiding adults will go to the theatre and abide by the rules of the establishment not because they are lemmings or suckers, but because they respect the rules of decent society norms. You choose to see it as "no big deal" but the vast majority do and think it's a moral wrong. No one is committing a crime of course, but it's still wrong, or else they'd invite you to bring your own food like some restaurants say BYOB or other cases. (Parks that allow you to bring your own food or buy from their concession stands like Dorney Park not far from here).


    Why stop at movies? Let's go to Disneyworld and bring in our own lunches and dinners because it's just too much of a hassle to walk ALL the way back to the car and the food is priced too high. Or let's bring our own beer to the baseball game because we aren't killing anyone, it's just beer. Or let's bring our own refreshments to the opera, museum or art gallery. I know they have those inconvienent rules that say "No eating" but dammit, I'm hungry.. and I don't wanna pay!


  • WickershamWickersham Member UncommonPosts: 2,379
    Originally posted by popinjay


     

    Originally posted by Wickersham
     
    I stand by what I typed and I'll leave it with you and your subconscious self.Ummm..ok?As far as my bringing outside food in...  it's not stealing...Irrelevant.  It's not tresspassing...Irrelevant.  it's not a law...Ridiculous.  it's not even a contract...Extremely ridiculous
    i don't believe they have the moral or ethical right to invent a rule just so they can use that rule to circumvent the capitalist rule of supply and demand.If only this was the Hague, you'd get a standing ovation for that ridiculous logic. As it is, it's a place of business and you are obliged to follow regulations and policies of the establishment. Their policy is clear "No outside food or drinks", just like no shoes, no shirt, no service. Policy. If you are caught, you do not have the right to stay and protest as it's their business' policy. They are legally justified in having your butt removed from the theatre WITHOUT refund for doing so.  I will not get caught because as I've already pointed out - the theater would rather fill my seat than leave it empty even if they need to turn a blind eye to their own policies.  Also, they are not legally justified in removing me without granting me a full refund, in fact, on the ticket I receive after I make my movie purchase it says "Management reserves the right to refuse admission to the holder by refunding purchase price."  That's what grants them their "power" - a full refund.  "Punishment" for disobeying their policy is a full refund and not the loss of my wealth.
    If they want me to purchase their goods over that of another supplier then they need to reduce their price to something more competitive.They are there to sell tickets. Their main goal is not to get you to eat; that's extra gravy on top of the ticket. You are not required to eat and drink in the theatre. If you don't want to buy their fare, don't. Eat what you like before or after, but not bring your own during. It's against policy, just like you can't decide you don't like the policy on MMORPG and change it because you don't like their advertising of F2P games.  I like to eat while I watch a movie; it's probably due to learned behavior or a cultural observance that the theaters themselves have taken great strides to promote over the years.  The floor plan of their establishment and the advertising within it have been designed specifically to make me hungry and get me to "buy their fare."
    How do you feel about the smell of pizza, nachos, or chili dogs?  because all of these things are also available at the concession stand in the theater near me.If I did not like the smell of those things, I am not bound to suffer through a movie. I know clearly before I enter, there are hotdogs, pizza, and nacho served. It's in clear sight as you enter. If I don't like the smell, I can ask for a refund and will probably get one. But I can't do that everytime I go, just as you cannot bring food everytime you go against their policy.  You will definitely get a refund.  Infact, you can watch a portion of the movie, decide you don't like something, and get a refund for it.  If those rowdy teens are causing you an issue you have the right to demand a refund from management and they have to refund you.
    As far as me not viewing the ads...  I'm in the theater at the time they say the movie is going to start but instead of watching the movie I paid to see I'm watching several non-movie related commercials that I don't want to see.Okay, now that's very ridiculous. Because the movie doesn't start on time, you are allowed to bring your own food? Wha?  I dunno, you were the one that drew those conclusions.   I merely suggested that I can't sympathize with a company that does things like this.  You made an issue out of it and I was merely pointing out the error in your logic...
    I don't have any guilt about buying a box of Mike and Ike and a bottle of Coke at a Dollar Store and walking past their consession stand that sells that same coke for $3.00 and that same Mike and Ike for $6.00.Clearly you have no respect. You've shown that. But that is not the issue. What is the issue is if you say it's okay to bring that in, then someone else brings in Wendy's, and someone else brings in a picnic basket. That's why the theatre doesn't leave it up to the customers to decide what kind of outside food is okay to bring in. It's a movie theatre, not a dining room. No one forces you to buy their food. What is it about your metabolism as an adult that you can't simply wait until you get out or eat beforehand, instead of acting like a 7 year old who has to eat NOW? Most adults respect each other's businesses, properties and right to make a profit because they'd like the same respect by their customers. Again, you don't HAVE to buy. It may not be a law, but it's the tacky thing a teen or child would do, not adults. And since you were talking morals earlier, it's morally and ethically wrong.  I don't respect a policy that says their Mike and Ike and Coke is mysteriously less obtrusive to other movie goers than the exact same box and bottle purchased at a lower price, but then that is your policy and not really theirs isn't it?  I've already stated that I would have no objection to purchasing product from them if they were more competitive with their prices.  Respect is a two way street and the right to make a profit does not include the right to demand six times the actual value of an item simply because of a policy you've introduced that gives you a monopoly.  As far as you implying that I'm a child or child like in my thinking or acting I can give no defense since I've already admitted to paying money to passively observe grown adults "dress up" and "play make believe" for my amusement it would be absurd to then claim total maturity, of course, the same could also be said about grown men playing video games...  

     



     

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