AION is nothing but Lineage III, MOST of the DAOC community has already tried AION (see vnboards) and already concluded it's not worth their time. ENOUGH with trying to over hype this piece of garbage.
Origins FTW!!
DAOC community, what? you mean the loyal loving fans of daoc who dont play the game anymore?, the game they call the best pvp game ever..
DAOC fans will never be happy with any game, best option is to go back to DAOC and stop whining.
Other than that it seems like AION is the game WAR should have been. Too bad it has that weird Anime style, really hate that and probably the main reason why I wont like the game.
Gotta admit the anime thiing is a turn off for me too. I really do not want to be this guy:
Played DAOC since its inception, and have played Aion, IMO the OP is actually right in many ways. The compariosns are there. What I would have said though, if you re looking for something RVR similar to DAOC, thought WAR was going to be it then try AION. Aion is closer to DAOC the WAR is by a long shot. Having said all that I personally can t wait for AIONs NA release. It has enough similarities to DAOCs end game, that it has me excited to play full time and actually give up on re subbing to DAOC every few months
Thats amazing cause in your post history , your first post ever was in LotrO community section , and from there you went to every newly released game, without making one single post in the DoAC forum.
People be warned, NcSoft is simply trying to make fever for the game, don't bite into the febver, bite into the quality of the title if it deems quality So many people don't realise how addicted they are , and once the mmo fever takes hold they will stop at nothing to push a title.
This s simple, I never really came to these forums or posted on them while I was playing DAOC. All I said are the similarities are there, nothing more. Honestly, they are similar in more ways then I thought.
Played DAOC since its inception, and have played Aion, IMO the OP is actually right in many ways. The compariosns are there. What I would have said though, if you re looking for something RVR similar to DAOC, thought WAR was going to be it then try AION. Aion is closer to DAOC the WAR is by a long shot. Having said all that I personally can t wait for AIONs NA release. It has enough similarities to DAOCs end game, that it has me excited to play full time and actually give up on re subbing to DAOC every few months
Thats amazing cause in your post history , your first post ever was in LotrO community section , and from there you went to every newly released game, without making one single post in the DoAC forum.
People be warned, NcSoft is simply trying to make fever for the game, don't bite into the febver, bite into the quality of the title if it deems quality So many people don't realise how addicted they are , and once the mmo fever takes hold they will stop at nothing to push a title.
ncsoft dont need to hype this game, ive play it ,and its a hell of a lot better than any western mmo released in the last 4 or 5 years.
The ONLY thing anyone needs to know about AION is it's ran by NCSOFT, If you do not Mind BOTS, and not like WoW, BOTS that control all aspects of the game including running quest chains for them and assisting themselves with 8 man pvp parties all controlled by one person. YOU people that never played L2 just can't understand how NCSOFT works. HIgh Level "Hardcore" players are untouchable in most cases, they scam, cheat and run the servers. Let us not forget Auto Assult and Tabula Rasha, we all saw how well NCSOFT took care of those titles. Oh and I am SICK of seeing people say "This is NCSOFT North America, it's a different company" Ehh hate to burst your bubble but it is not and NCSOFT always releses content to Foriegn countires prior to NA getting it and does not do anything without Koreas approval.
GL Fanbois you won't last 2 months in this game.
Bots are not a problem in Aion, and they are banning them at a very high rate. TBH on my WoW server in WotLK I saw more bots (Magtheridon) leveling up in the world, and joining BG's than I did on my KAion server...Nothing like seing 10 Shamans all in the same gear cast a nuke on you at the same time. I played L2 for the past 5 years, in fact I have been playing on a bot free private server for the last 2.5 years, for 1 reason, I couldn't stand the bots on retail. And those "hardcore" people ran the servers because that is the nature of L2's competitiveness...everything in that game is meant for competition, there has never been more than 2 "factor" sides on any Lineage 2 server for more than a brief amount of time. L2 is the most competitive game I've ever seen, I would be willing to wager it is more "elitist" than Aion or DAoC...at least I haven't heard of enemy guilds meeting in parking lots to have street brawls, or people murdering their in game enemies and then sending death threats to their grieving families over DAoC.
And what you don't understand about "the new company" is that NCsoft Austin ran L2-NA, TR and AA. Yeah they fucked all 3 of those games up, but thats why everyone was fired, and they made a new company, NCsoft West. You may not have confidence, but the only other game you could say NCsoft West ran was Guild Wars. I played Lineage 2 since prelude back in 2004, and I've been following Aion heavily since the summer of 07 (and to Solareus, I understand your concern, but NCsoft is not the one generating hype, its the fans...if anything NCsoft has been doing the opposite of hyping the game..Even Lineage 2 in the last year has been getting like 3 times the amount of trailers/cinematics that Aion has been getting).
And GL finding a game, cause Aion has 3 million players and the most successful MMORPG launch, ever for a reason, because it is awesome. And I will enjoy it while you cry until you see the light.
Here are a few reasons why AION is the best option for EX DAoC Veterans. Been playing on the Chinese server (with English language patch) and this game is immense. Reached Level 38 with a Gladiator and have a Level 22 Cleric. Ignore all those who say its a PVE grind. This simply is untrue. (1) AION has a RA system like DAoC. With passive stat boni as well as powerful abilities on timers. People get a real sense that their characters grow stronger through RvR. You can save up Abyss Points gained from RvR kills for uber gear. (2) There is no PvE grind for gear and AION has DAoC-style crafting, and spellcrafting. You can craft or gain RVR reward gear for the "ultimate" template based on a mix of crafted and RVR earned gear.In AION there is real crafting. Armorcrafting, weaponcrafting with secondary skills like woodcrafting that allows you to reinforce keep doors and repair them. (3) AION has 'The Rift' is in-game PVP dungeon that is very similar to Darkness Falls. (4) The layout and size of the "inner keeps" is very similar to the keeps in DAoC RvR zones and BGs. As with DAoC, AION has destructable walls and seige weapons (5) AION has 6x6 combat - this rules. It is possible for strong but differentially balanced 6 man groups (e.g tank groups or mage groups) to take out 16 man and even 24 man groups. (6) RvR End game is immense, offering all kind of merit, status and rewards for individuals, clans and realms. (7) CC is smart but not overwhelming and can be dealt with by good healers and other classes. (8) Like DAoC, AION is extremely elitist. (9) Unlike DAoC you can RvR in-flight mode, liked a Winged Angel or a Demon
Heh....this is funny.
I played Aion as part of the last beta weekend because I heard it was going to be a good DAoC replacement. After playing, I immediately re-subbed to DAoC. Waiting for the server consolidation in July. Thank you Aion for sending me back to DAoC.
Here are a few reasons why AION is the best option for EX DAoC Veterans. Been playing on the Chinese server (with English language patch) and this game is immense. Reached Level 38 with a Gladiator and have a Level 22 Cleric. Ignore all those who say its a PVE grind. This simply is untrue. (1) AION has a RA system like DAoC. With passive stat boni as well as powerful abilities on timers. People get a real sense that their characters grow stronger through RvR. You can save up Abyss Points gained from RvR kills for uber gear. (2) There is no PvE grind for gear and AION has DAoC-style crafting, and spellcrafting. You can craft or gain RVR reward gear for the "ultimate" template based on a mix of crafted and RVR earned gear.In AION there is real crafting. Armorcrafting, weaponcrafting with secondary skills like woodcrafting that allows you to reinforce keep doors and repair them. (3) AION has 'The Rift' is in-game PVP dungeon that is very similar to Darkness Falls. (4) The layout and size of the "inner keeps" is very similar to the keeps in DAoC RvR zones and BGs. As with DAoC, AION has destructable walls and seige weapons (5) AION has 6x6 combat - this rules. It is possible for strong but differentially balanced 6 man groups (e.g tank groups or mage groups) to take out 16 man and even 24 man groups. (6) RvR End game is immense, offering all kind of merit, status and rewards for individuals, clans and realms. (7) CC is smart but not overwhelming and can be dealt with by good healers and other classes. (8) Like DAoC, AION is extremely elitist. (9) Unlike DAoC you can RvR in-flight mode, liked a Winged Angel or a Demon
Heh....this is funny.
I played Aion as part of the last beta weekend because I heard it was going to be a good DAoC replacement. After playing, I immediately re-subbed to DAoC. Waiting for the server consolidation in July. Thank you Aion for sending me back to DAoC.
So you played it before you got to any PvP content, and quit after seeing about 5% of the game?
I have no idea yet whether Aion is truly like DAoC. I hope its close, but I have not yet gotten to the PvP aspect yet. I will say that it looks to have the potential. Combat is smooth, abilities are interesting and it is, thus far, a fun game.
Ok, I recently read a thread that Aion is what DAoC fans are looking for since Mythic let us down with WAR. So with that in mind, I have a few questions.
1) DAoC was best known for its end game RvR. Is it true that Aion has Keeps / Towers that can be controlled and upgraded by guilds?
Yes, there is currently not much incentive to defend them, so next patch they are increasing the rewards for defending.
2) What is the drive behind Aion's PvP? DAoC had 2 relics of power for each of its 3 realms that you could fight over for control. Which in turn gave realmwide bonuses in both PvE and RvR. Does anything like this exist in Aion?
Bragging rights, rewards. Clans own castles and get rewarded for their ownership, you gain abyss points (for open world pvp only! so no arenas) which you also lose when you die, so you cant just farm them over time if you suck. You can buy gear, special consumables with them, and your PvP rank is based on your AP...so it sucks to lose them. As you increase in PvP rank (set amount of each rank per server) you get special abilities and items to make you stronger).
3) It was also stated that Aion has something similar to DAoC's Realm Abilities. Which are basically abilities purchased with points earned while killing enemy players. Is this true?
Not abilities, but gear, potions, consumables and things like that.
4) DAoC was smart enough to keep about 95% of its PvE separate from any form of PvP so that if you needed to level in peace you could and if you wanted to fight, there was plenty of action in the Frontier. Can you hit the level cap in Aion strictly through PvE or do you have to PvP at some point to reach max level?
You could do it with out PvPing, but it would be slower, the game is designed on PvP integrated into other parts of the games, even the end game WoW-style instances have 1 party from each faction inside so there will be competition. All of the best PvE mobs/bosses/spots are always in PvP zones...Some may not, but I love it like that.
5) DAoC had issues in RvR with Crowd Control such as, whoever mezzed / stunned the other person / group first usually won the battle. Is the CC in Aion overwhelming or did they manage to minimize it to shorter durations vs. DAoC's 9 sec stuns and 60+ sec mezzes.
I dont think there are mass CC's in Aion, so I wouldnt worry about that, most of them are removed by any damage, and there are lots of AoE's.
6) Classic Server DAoC, you know, the ones without the stupid ToA expanions BS usually had some lengthy fights that could last for hours and were entirely too fun the whole time. How long is the average battle in Aion for say an 6 vs 6 encounter and also for all out zergs.
Not entirely sure, PvP damage is 50% of PvE damage to encourage longer fights, there are also classes that have resurrection with 0 cooldown time, but 4 second cast time, however each time you die you rez you get a short debuff, that increases in time with each death (by 20 seconds). And you lose your buffs.
7) DAoC was fairly dependant on gear to be any good in RvR / PvP. How important is the gear in Aion when it comes to PvP?
I would say its just as dependant on gear as daoc, difference being the physical defence makes a very noticeable difference in damage reduction compared to most games I've played...its one of the first things i noticed while upgrading armor.
8) Leveling in DAoC was a snap which for PvP / RvR games is the best way to go. No one wants to wait 3-6 months to get into the meat and potatoes of the game. Aion has been labeled a grind, yet compared to Lineage and most other asian marketed games, its been rumored to be a lot less of a grind. Is this true and what is the level cap by the way?
Its probably equivalent to WoW in leveling up, 1-3 months to max depending on how much you play.
9) DAoC is like 1 of maybe a handful of games with the intelligence of allowing players to customize the color of their gear. Dyes in game were ranged from ugly colors at cheap prices to more desired colors for a good chunk of change. How easy is it to dye your gear in Aion and is it Merchant sold or drop only?
There are dyes, that are merchant sold, crafted, quest items, etc...rare ones are harder to get. You can also change the appearance of any (non abyss) piece of gear to look like another piece of gear...So you can make an awesome, but ugly sword look like a terrible, but nice looking sword.
10) Healers / Buffers in DAoC definately made leveling and RvR a lot easier, but potions were available that eventually gave every class easy access to healing and buffs. Aion supposedly has long timers on potions / bandages which means Healers are once again a high demand class, as they should be. Is this true?
Yes they are, there will probably be 1 healer and 1 buffer per party (of 6).
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Here are a few reasons why AION is the best option for EX DAoC Veterans. Been playing on the Chinese server (with English language patch) and this game is immense. Reached Level 38 with a Gladiator and have a Level 22 Cleric. Ignore all those who say its a PVE grind. This simply is untrue. (1) AION has a RA system like DAoC. With passive stat boni as well as powerful abilities on timers. People get a real sense that their characters grow stronger through RvR. You can save up Abyss Points gained from RvR kills for uber gear. (2) There is no PvE grind for gear and AION has DAoC-style crafting, and spellcrafting. You can craft or gain RVR reward gear for the "ultimate" template based on a mix of crafted and RVR earned gear.In AION there is real crafting. Armorcrafting, weaponcrafting with secondary skills like woodcrafting that allows you to reinforce keep doors and repair them. (3) AION has 'The Rift' is in-game PVP dungeon that is very similar to Darkness Falls. (4) The layout and size of the "inner keeps" is very similar to the keeps in DAoC RvR zones and BGs. As with DAoC, AION has destructable walls and seige weapons (5) AION has 6x6 combat - this rules. It is possible for strong but differentially balanced 6 man groups (e.g tank groups or mage groups) to take out 16 man and even 24 man groups. (6) RvR End game is immense, offering all kind of merit, status and rewards for individuals, clans and realms. (7) CC is smart but not overwhelming and can be dealt with by good healers and other classes. (8) Like DAoC, AION is extremely elitist. (9) Unlike DAoC you can RvR in-flight mode, liked a Winged Angel or a Demon
Heh....this is funny.
I played Aion as part of the last beta weekend because I heard it was going to be a good DAoC replacement. After playing, I immediately re-subbed to DAoC. Waiting for the server consolidation in July. Thank you Aion for sending me back to DAoC.
So you played it before you got to any PvP content, and quit after seeing about 5% of the game?
Yep. 5% of the most boring gameplay and the most objectionable community I''ve experienced to date. My opinion.
I've played MMOs for long enough I can tell if I'm going to like a game or not in the first ten levels. "You didn't play long enough" -- Isn't that what advocates say in EVERY game forum when someone doesn't agree with them?
Here are a few reasons why AION is the best option for EX DAoC Veterans. Been playing on the Chinese server (with English language patch) and this game is immense. Reached Level 38 with a Gladiator and have a Level 22 Cleric. Ignore all those who say its a PVE grind. This simply is untrue. (1) AION has a RA system like DAoC. With passive stat boni as well as powerful abilities on timers. People get a real sense that their characters grow stronger through RvR. You can save up Abyss Points gained from RvR kills for uber gear. (2) There is no PvE grind for gear and AION has DAoC-style crafting, and spellcrafting. You can craft or gain RVR reward gear for the "ultimate" template based on a mix of crafted and RVR earned gear.In AION there is real crafting. Armorcrafting, weaponcrafting with secondary skills like woodcrafting that allows you to reinforce keep doors and repair them. (3) AION has 'The Rift' is in-game PVP dungeon that is very similar to Darkness Falls. (4) The layout and size of the "inner keeps" is very similar to the keeps in DAoC RvR zones and BGs. As with DAoC, AION has destructable walls and seige weapons (5) AION has 6x6 combat - this rules. It is possible for strong but differentially balanced 6 man groups (e.g tank groups or mage groups) to take out 16 man and even 24 man groups. (6) RvR End game is immense, offering all kind of merit, status and rewards for individuals, clans and realms. (7) CC is smart but not overwhelming and can be dealt with by good healers and other classes. (8) Like DAoC, AION is extremely elitist. (9) Unlike DAoC you can RvR in-flight mode, liked a Winged Angel or a Demon
Heh....this is funny.
I played Aion as part of the last beta weekend because I heard it was going to be a good DAoC replacement. After playing, I immediately re-subbed to DAoC. Waiting for the server consolidation in July. Thank you Aion for sending me back to DAoC.
So you played it before you got to any PvP content, and quit after seeing about 5% of the game?
Yep. 5% of the most boring gameplay and the most objectionable community I''ve experienced to date. My opinion.
I've played MMOs for long enough I can tell if I'm going to like a game or not in the first ten levels. "You didn't play long enough" -- Isn't that what advocates say in EVERY game forum when someone doesn't agree with them?
Well to be completely honest, if the classic DAoC servers weren't near death, I'd still be playing it. Whats the point of paying to play an MMO when theres only 50-100 people on a 3 server cluster? By the way, just to make sure I'm not checkin server populations during fluke maintenance hours, the classic cluster currently has 92 people playing... no thanks. I love DAoC to death and it's probably my #1 or #2 MMO, but it's dying a slow death.
WAR was no where near as much fun, so unless Mythic decides to make DAoC 2, than I'm thinking Aion is my next best bet.
Yes, I still play on the classic server and there is no one there, except on weekends. I'm continuing to level until they consolidate servers in July. Then I will have a few nice beefy characters to transfer onto a more populated server. Judging from the numbers, the new server should have around 3,000 online most times. That's enough for me personally.
I think there are a lot of people subscribed and either play irregularly or just waiting to see what will happen. The housing areas are still pretty full and you have to have an account and be paying weekly rent to keep the house. You can only deposit 4 weeks of rent so anyone with a house has to be logging in at least once a month to pay up their rent.
The server consolidation should bring back people, like you, who stopped playing because of the low numbers. I keeping my fingers crossed because DAoC and UO are still my #1 and #2 MMOs.
I'm confused. DAoC players like the game because it had seperate PvE and PvP. From what I understand, that essentially doesn't exist after level 20 or so in Aion, where the majority of the progress, loot and so forth can only be had in the Abyss. Unless you like to grind a bunch of crappy exp mobs for the last 30 levels and beyond, there isn't nearly enough PvE content to make anyone but a die hard PvPer happy.
With PvE raiding, it has never been a question of being "good enough". I play games to have fun, not to be a simpering toady sitting through hour after hour of mind numbing boredom and fawning over a guild master in the hopes that he will condescend to reward me with shiny bits of loot. But in games where those people get the highest progression, anyone who doesn't do that will just be a moving target for them and I'll be damned if I'm going to pay money for the privilege. - Neanderthal
I love these: 'I played the beta for 25 minutes and I'm going back to daoc' posts.
Hehe go back to your dead game and have fun.
If you didn't figure out that the abyss opens its doors for level 25 players upwards and that the action [loads of different abyss armor sets/weapons/jewlery, pvp ranking, transformation, fortress sieges and all of this with the possiblity to fly (no not the gliding that you see early in the game, real flying)] starts there then noone can help you.
Anyhow I don't see a reason that the aion community should bother trying to convice anyone to join in. These forums are full of bitter and biased people.
I love these: 'I played the beta for 25 minutes and I'm going back to daoc' posts. Hehe go back to your dead game and have fun. If you didn't figure out that the abyss opens its doors for level 25 players upwards and that the action [loads of different abyss armor sets/weapons/jewlery, pvp ranking, transformation, fortress sieges and all of this with the possiblity to fly (no not the gliding that you see early in the game, real flying)] starts there then noone can help you. Anyhow I don't see a reason that the aion community should bother trying to convice anyone to join in. These forums are full of bitter and biased people.
The "action" starts at level 25? ROTFL.
I played for 2 days and got to level 17. There is NO WAY I'd continue on to 25.
I love how a game's advocates always regurgitate the, "you have to get to level X before it gets good" argument. That's like asking someone to eat a pile of worms because there is a steak underneath.
The "action" starts at level 25? ROTFL. I played for 2 days and got to level 17. There is NO WAY I'd continue on to 25. I love how a game's advocates always regurgitate the, "you have to get to level X before it gets good" argument. That's like asking someone to eat a pile of worms because there is a steak underneath.
Yea I would also prefer mmos without the necessity to grind to be able to see the important parts of the game. But as long is it is the way it is you can't even judge 20% of a game that requires you to level up to see/participate in the good stuff.
mmo fever is a serious issue, makes people waste money on something 3 months from the time they bought it, and wwith in that time the value of the product has not maintained a level of satifaction. Every ncsft game I have, which is 3 paid games, have never retained there value over long length of time, and to me DAoC can, and that is why I laugh at the notion this game comes remotely close to the character development of DAoC, as well as all of the different races ansd classes that DAoC gives. You want a DAoC game, you play DAoc, not some half assed korean grindfest for the biggest tits and tightest ass.
but those ncsoft games have always had more subs than DAOC.
daoc has one of the worst populations now for the last 3 years.
I love these: 'I played the beta for 25 minutes and I'm going back to daoc' posts. Hehe go back to your dead game and have fun. If you didn't figure out that the abyss opens its doors for level 25 players upwards and that the action [loads of different abyss armor sets/weapons/jewlery, pvp ranking, transformation, fortress sieges and all of this with the possiblity to fly (no not the gliding that you see early in the game, real flying)] starts there then noone can help you. Anyhow I don't see a reason that the aion community should bother trying to convice anyone to join in. These forums are full of bitter and biased people.
The "action" starts at level 25? ROTFL.
I played for 2 days and got to level 17. There is NO WAY I'd continue on to 25.
I love how a game's advocates always regurgitate the, "you have to get to level X before it gets good" argument. That's like asking someone to eat a pile of worms because there is a steak underneath.
Maybe some people don't want to be ganked and killed as a level 1 lowbie. The only thing that begins at lvl 25+ is the Abyss. If you had followed any of the story from your character getting its memories back and becoming a daeva, and getting stronger, you might realize this. And I never heard anyone refer to lvl 1-20 as eating a pile of worms in Aion. I thought the instance and quest combat was rather enjoyable.
Here are a few reasons why AION is the best option for EX DAoC Veterans. Been playing on the Chinese server (with English language patch) and this game is immense. Reached Level 38 with a Gladiator and have a Level 22 Cleric. Ignore all those who say its a PVE grind. This simply is untrue. (1) AION has a RA system like DAoC. With passive stat boni as well as powerful abilities on timers. People get a real sense that their characters grow stronger through RvR. You can save up Abyss Points gained from RvR kills for uber gear. (2) There is no PvE grind for gear and AION has DAoC-style crafting, and spellcrafting. You can craft or gain RVR reward gear for the "ultimate" template based on a mix of crafted and RVR earned gear.In AION there is real crafting. Armorcrafting, weaponcrafting with secondary skills like woodcrafting that allows you to reinforce keep doors and repair them. (3) AION has 'The Rift' is in-game PVP dungeon that is very similar to Darkness Falls. (4) The layout and size of the "inner keeps" is very similar to the keeps in DAoC RvR zones and BGs. As with DAoC, AION has destructable walls and seige weapons (5) AION has 6x6 combat - this rules. It is possible for strong but differentially balanced 6 man groups (e.g tank groups or mage groups) to take out 16 man and even 24 man groups. (6) RvR End game is immense, offering all kind of merit, status and rewards for individuals, clans and realms. (7) CC is smart but not overwhelming and can be dealt with by good healers and other classes. (8) Like DAoC, AION is extremely elitist. (9) Unlike DAoC you can RvR in-flight mode, liked a Winged Angel or a Demon
Thank you for your post. Been around this website for years, and barely post anything, but this time it's worth a reply.
TbhI have been looking for a replacement game that offered the kind of gaming experience that DAOC was pre-TOA. When getting DF to open was the highlight of an evening, with its unique RVR experience, rushing to the other faction's side for some epic fights. Lurking around as a stealther, avoiding aggro and being detected, or forcing your way as a group.
By what you say, it seems to have taken the best of the DAOC model, and improved on it.
Building your equipment, based on a few drops, and the rest just crafted items and spellcrafting that really made your character unique, something you worked on and kept for a long time, until one day you got some cool item and had to change a few pieces around it. I'm talking pre-TOA here. What we played for were RR and improving some key skills on our characters, yes, but most of all it had no other rewards than just the fun of it. No drops, no PQs, no gold bags and so on.
War has not brought back that RVR excitement, and I had such high hopes for that game, even considering the Tombs Kings that's about to come out. But I'll give it a try, one never knows.
I've been watching Aion for a long time, and finally got to very briefly try the Chinese beta. By the little I have seen, It's overwhelmingly beautiful, plays great.
What you said really made my day, I was wondering if it could be the game I want it to be.
You say they will consolidate the DAoC servers again? Yet all the classic servers are already consolidated, so how are you coming up with 3000? Sure the ToA servers have good numbers, but I'm not sure I care to dive back into that mess. ToA turned DAoC into a first person shooter, aka caster only game, but they may have fixed that problem by now. I'm still going to give Aion a try in September and see what it has to offer. As long as it has a majority of DAoC's better game elements, thats all I need. PvP games with a purpose are the best MMO's out there.
No, you misunderstand. their current "plan" is to consolidate the three clusters (Devon, Killibury, and Bossiney) into a single server. No cluster, just a single server. I'm not sure what will happen between Classic and ToA, but at this point, I'd rather have 3K players available than quibble about rulesets. I'm also not sure if they will allow characters on all realms, but I hope they do. I've got 4 Alb, 6 Hib, and 3 Mid.
They did say they would archive all characters on the old servers so players coming back could have their characters transfered, if they want.
More info on comparisons Originally posted by Rhoklaw Ok, I recently read a thread that Aion is what DAoC fans are looking for since Mythic let us down with WAR. So with that in mind, I have a few questions. 1) DAoC was best known for its end game RvR. Is it true that Aion has Keeps / Towers that can be controlled and upgraded by guilds? Yes, there is currently not much incentive to defend them, so next patch they are increasing the rewards for defending. Not upgradeable yet, they can be controlled by guilds though, your guild logo will show in the front of the castle, you get some special quests, and you tax the vendors around the castle. 2) What is the drive behind Aion's PvP? DAoC had 2 relics of power for each of its 3 realms that you could fight over for control. Which in turn gave realmwide bonuses in both PvE and RvR. Does anything like this exist in Aion? Bragging rights, rewards. Clans own castles and get rewarded for their ownership, you gain abyss points (for open world pvp only! so no arenas) which you also lose when you die, so you cant just farm them over time if you suck. You can buy gear, special consumables with them, and your PvP rank is based on your AP...so it sucks to lose them. As you increase in PvP rank (set amount of each rank per server) you get special abilities and items to make you stronger). Through rifts, you can block their PvE instances if you gather enough people, you can kill their quest giving NPCs, you have to defend quest giving NPCs knowing that they will drop pretty good items for your enemy, etc. In the abyss it's more about control and bragging rights atm, plus, the abyss gear is the best ingame. 3) It was also stated that Aion has something similar to DAoC's Realm Abilities. Which are basically abilities purchased with points earned while killing enemy players. Is this true? Not abilities, but gear, potions, consumables and things like that. There are PvP acquired abilities, depending on your rank you might even get a skill that transforms you into a 180k HP beast, they only apply inside the abyss though. 4) DAoC was smart enough to keep about 95% of its PvE separate from any form of PvP so that if you needed to level in peace you could and if you wanted to fight, there was plenty of action in the Frontier. Can you hit the level cap in Aion strictly through PvE or do you have to PvP at some point to reach max level? You could do it with out PvPing, but it would be slower, the game is designed on PvP integrated into other parts of the games, even the end game WoW-style instances have 1 party from each faction inside so there will be competition. All of the best PvE mobs/bosses/spots are always in PvP zones...Some may not, but I love it like that. PvP in Aion is completely inevitable, you'll get ganked at least once while leveling, but the PvP is minimal if you try to advoid it and you can reach the max level without any kind of PvP excepting the rift gank squads. 5) DAoC had issues in RvR with Crowd Control such as, whoever mezzed / stunned the other person / group first usually won the battle. Is the CC in Aion overwhelming or did they manage to minimize it to shorter durations vs. DAoC's 9 sec stuns and 60+ sec mezzes. I dont think there are mass CC's in Aion, so I wouldnt worry about that, most of them are removed by any damage, and there are lots of AoE's. The only ways to get massive and decissive CCs is to actviate artifacts in the abyss, otherwise, without those, no CC is decissive enough. 6) Classic Server DAoC, you know, the ones without the stupid ToA expanions BS usually had some lengthy fights that could last for hours and were entirely too fun the whole time. How long is the average battle in Aion for say an 6 vs 6 encounter and also for all out zergs. Not entirely sure, PvP damage is 50% of PvE damage to encourage longer fights, there are also classes that have resurrection with 0 cooldown time, but 4 second cast time, however each time you die you rez you get a short debuff, that increases in time with each death (by 20 seconds). And you lose your buffs. 6vs6 takes from 1 minute to 4, depending on the groups, a zerg battle can take hours tho. 7) DAoC was fairly dependant on gear to be any good in RvR / PvP. How important is the gear in Aion when it comes to PvP? I would say its just as dependant on gear as daoc, difference being the physical defence makes a very noticeable difference in damage reduction compared to most games I've played...its one of the first things i noticed while upgrading armor. 8) Leveling in DAoC was a snap which for PvP / RvR games is the best way to go. No one wants to wait 3-6 months to get into the meat and potatoes of the game. Aion has been labeled a grind, yet compared to Lineage and most other asian marketed games, its been rumored to be a lot less of a grind. Is this true and what is the level cap by the way? Its probably equivalent to WoW in leveling up, 1-3 months to max depending on how much you play. 9) DAoC is like 1 of maybe a handful of games with the intelligence of allowing players to customize the color of their gear. Dyes in game were ranged from ugly colors at cheap prices to more desired colors for a good chunk of change. How easy is it to dye your gear in Aion and is it Merchant sold or drop only? There are dyes, that are merchant sold, crafted, quest items, etc...rare ones are harder to get. You can also change the appearance of any (non abyss) piece of gear to look like another piece of gear...So you can make an awesome, but ugly sword look like a terrible, but nice looking sword. 10) Healers / Buffers in DAoC definately made leveling and RvR a lot easier, but potions were available that eventually gave every class easy access to healing and buffs. Aion supposedly has long timers on potions / bandages which means Healers are once again a high demand class, as they should be. Is this true? Yes they are, there will probably be 1 healer and 1 buffer per party (of 6). My guild is going for a 2 support+4dps party setup every time we want to PvP, so yeah, healers are pretty important.
Other than that it seems like AION is the game WAR should have been. Too bad it has that weird Anime style, really hate that and probably the main reason why I wont like the game.
Gotta admit the anime thiing is a turn off for me too. I really do not want to be this guy:
Gotta cringe every time some Caucasian talks about something being "too 'Anime"
'Anime' refers to Japanese animation, and it consists many different visual styles, from Dragonball to Witch Hunter Robin. It wouldn't bug me as much if specific artists or studios were mentioned, but people tend to generalise too much.
Saying Aion is too 'Anime' is like saying Warcraft is too 'Disney'. Actually AION is not anime at all. It's much closer to Guildwars and I aint heard that called anime. And one thing is for sure the graphics are way ahead of Warhammer, Chronicles of Spellborn or AoC. There is huge diversity of charcter creation in Aion. The character creation system uses slider values similar to the one used in Oblivion. You can create a character that looks like Gandalf or Aragorn if you like.
There are 20+ premade faces but each face can be manipulated. Eye shape, eye height, nose shape, nose height, nose protrusion, ear shape, lip shape, jaw shape. The list goes on and on. So you could start with an anime charcter and turn it into anything you want. If your fancy takes you, you can make Barak Obama with angel wings!
Get over it... the guy looks gay as hell, and he does have an anime look to him. It's nice to see that you automatically assume he/she is caucasian as well.
looks more like CGI to me. but ill try this game out if its cheap lol. or if they have a open beta. sounds better then the star wars mmo.
Is this the first time you guys have heard about this game?
It obviously seems that way.
I mean, complaining about the character models is the last thing you guys should even be discussing.
Why?
This game has more character customization than any game Ive seen to date.
Want to look like Obama, you can.
Brad pitt? Done.
That dwarf from lord of the rings, done.
I mean really the amount of things you can customize is almost overwhelming.
From height, body build, width of shoulders, hair colors, skin color, hair style, tattoos, facial tattoos, really the list goes on and on.
I don't see anyone complaining. What I do see is people giving reasons why they do not like a particular aspect of the game.
I know that it can be interpreted as 'bashing your game' but there really is no need to be all up in arms over a negative comment. Especially when the comment is a personal preference.
On the other hand, I would like to know what does being "some Caucasian" have to do with anything.
I am not all up in arms about anything, it just seems completely stupid for so many of the uninformed posters to pick on ONE avatar repeatedly when you can look as "MANLY" or fem as you want.
But can I look like this:
And beat someone with their own arm like Hollow Ichigo does in a few pages? Ok fine I admit Ulquiorra does look a little foofy but Ichigo does this to him so its ok.
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DAOC community, what? you mean the loyal loving fans of daoc who dont play the game anymore?, the game they call the best pvp game ever..
DAOC fans will never be happy with any game, best option is to go back to DAOC and stop whining.
What does that mean?
Other than that it seems like AION is the game WAR should have been. Too bad it has that weird Anime style, really hate that and probably the main reason why I wont like the game.
Gotta admit the anime thiing is a turn off for me too. I really do not want to be this guy:
Then why don't you play as Barack Obama?
Obama Plays Aion.
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Thats amazing cause in your post history , your first post ever was in LotrO community section , and from there you went to every newly released game, without making one single post in the DoAC forum.
People be warned, NcSoft is simply trying to make fever for the game, don't bite into the febver, bite into the quality of the title if it deems quality So many people don't realise how addicted they are , and once the mmo fever takes hold they will stop at nothing to push a title.
This s simple, I never really came to these forums or posted on them while I was playing DAOC. All I said are the similarities are there, nothing more. Honestly, they are similar in more ways then I thought.
Thats amazing cause in your post history , your first post ever was in LotrO community section , and from there you went to every newly released game, without making one single post in the DoAC forum.
People be warned, NcSoft is simply trying to make fever for the game, don't bite into the febver, bite into the quality of the title if it deems quality So many people don't realise how addicted they are , and once the mmo fever takes hold they will stop at nothing to push a title.
ncsoft dont need to hype this game, ive play it ,and its a hell of a lot better than any western mmo released in the last 4 or 5 years.
Bots are not a problem in Aion, and they are banning them at a very high rate. TBH on my WoW server in WotLK I saw more bots (Magtheridon) leveling up in the world, and joining BG's than I did on my KAion server...Nothing like seing 10 Shamans all in the same gear cast a nuke on you at the same time. I played L2 for the past 5 years, in fact I have been playing on a bot free private server for the last 2.5 years, for 1 reason, I couldn't stand the bots on retail. And those "hardcore" people ran the servers because that is the nature of L2's competitiveness...everything in that game is meant for competition, there has never been more than 2 "factor" sides on any Lineage 2 server for more than a brief amount of time. L2 is the most competitive game I've ever seen, I would be willing to wager it is more "elitist" than Aion or DAoC...at least I haven't heard of enemy guilds meeting in parking lots to have street brawls, or people murdering their in game enemies and then sending death threats to their grieving families over DAoC.
And what you don't understand about "the new company" is that NCsoft Austin ran L2-NA, TR and AA. Yeah they fucked all 3 of those games up, but thats why everyone was fired, and they made a new company, NCsoft West. You may not have confidence, but the only other game you could say NCsoft West ran was Guild Wars. I played Lineage 2 since prelude back in 2004, and I've been following Aion heavily since the summer of 07 (and to Solareus, I understand your concern, but NCsoft is not the one generating hype, its the fans...if anything NCsoft has been doing the opposite of hyping the game..Even Lineage 2 in the last year has been getting like 3 times the amount of trailers/cinematics that Aion has been getting).
And GL finding a game, cause Aion has 3 million players and the most successful MMORPG launch, ever for a reason, because it is awesome. And I will enjoy it while you cry until you see the light.
Heh....this is funny.
I played Aion as part of the last beta weekend because I heard it was going to be a good DAoC replacement. After playing, I immediately re-subbed to DAoC. Waiting for the server consolidation in July. Thank you Aion for sending me back to DAoC.
Heh....this is funny.
I played Aion as part of the last beta weekend because I heard it was going to be a good DAoC replacement. After playing, I immediately re-subbed to DAoC. Waiting for the server consolidation in July. Thank you Aion for sending me back to DAoC.
So you played it before you got to any PvP content, and quit after seeing about 5% of the game?
I have no idea yet whether Aion is truly like DAoC. I hope its close, but I have not yet gotten to the PvP aspect yet. I will say that it looks to have the potential. Combat is smooth, abilities are interesting and it is, thus far, a fun game.
Heres hoping!
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Originally posted by Rhoklaw
Ok, I recently read a thread that Aion is what DAoC fans are looking for since Mythic let us down with WAR. So with that in mind, I have a few questions.
1) DAoC was best known for its end game RvR. Is it true that Aion has Keeps / Towers that can be controlled and upgraded by guilds?
Yes, there is currently not much incentive to defend them, so next patch they are increasing the rewards for defending.
2) What is the drive behind Aion's PvP? DAoC had 2 relics of power for each of its 3 realms that you could fight over for control. Which in turn gave realmwide bonuses in both PvE and RvR. Does anything like this exist in Aion?
Bragging rights, rewards. Clans own castles and get rewarded for their ownership, you gain abyss points (for open world pvp only! so no arenas) which you also lose when you die, so you cant just farm them over time if you suck. You can buy gear, special consumables with them, and your PvP rank is based on your AP...so it sucks to lose them. As you increase in PvP rank (set amount of each rank per server) you get special abilities and items to make you stronger).
3) It was also stated that Aion has something similar to DAoC's Realm Abilities. Which are basically abilities purchased with points earned while killing enemy players. Is this true?
Not abilities, but gear, potions, consumables and things like that.
4) DAoC was smart enough to keep about 95% of its PvE separate from any form of PvP so that if you needed to level in peace you could and if you wanted to fight, there was plenty of action in the Frontier. Can you hit the level cap in Aion strictly through PvE or do you have to PvP at some point to reach max level?
You could do it with out PvPing, but it would be slower, the game is designed on PvP integrated into other parts of the games, even the end game WoW-style instances have 1 party from each faction inside so there will be competition. All of the best PvE mobs/bosses/spots are always in PvP zones...Some may not, but I love it like that.
5) DAoC had issues in RvR with Crowd Control such as, whoever mezzed / stunned the other person / group first usually won the battle. Is the CC in Aion overwhelming or did they manage to minimize it to shorter durations vs. DAoC's 9 sec stuns and 60+ sec mezzes.
I dont think there are mass CC's in Aion, so I wouldnt worry about that, most of them are removed by any damage, and there are lots of AoE's.
6) Classic Server DAoC, you know, the ones without the stupid ToA expanions BS usually had some lengthy fights that could last for hours and were entirely too fun the whole time. How long is the average battle in Aion for say an 6 vs 6 encounter and also for all out zergs.
Not entirely sure, PvP damage is 50% of PvE damage to encourage longer fights, there are also classes that have resurrection with 0 cooldown time, but 4 second cast time, however each time you die you rez you get a short debuff, that increases in time with each death (by 20 seconds). And you lose your buffs.
7) DAoC was fairly dependant on gear to be any good in RvR / PvP. How important is the gear in Aion when it comes to PvP?
I would say its just as dependant on gear as daoc, difference being the physical defence makes a very noticeable difference in damage reduction compared to most games I've played...its one of the first things i noticed while upgrading armor.
8) Leveling in DAoC was a snap which for PvP / RvR games is the best way to go. No one wants to wait 3-6 months to get into the meat and potatoes of the game. Aion has been labeled a grind, yet compared to Lineage and most other asian marketed games, its been rumored to be a lot less of a grind. Is this true and what is the level cap by the way?
Its probably equivalent to WoW in leveling up, 1-3 months to max depending on how much you play.
9) DAoC is like 1 of maybe a handful of games with the intelligence of allowing players to customize the color of their gear. Dyes in game were ranged from ugly colors at cheap prices to more desired colors for a good chunk of change. How easy is it to dye your gear in Aion and is it Merchant sold or drop only?
There are dyes, that are merchant sold, crafted, quest items, etc...rare ones are harder to get. You can also change the appearance of any (non abyss) piece of gear to look like another piece of gear...So you can make an awesome, but ugly sword look like a terrible, but nice looking sword.
10) Healers / Buffers in DAoC definately made leveling and RvR a lot easier, but potions were available that eventually gave every class easy access to healing and buffs. Aion supposedly has long timers on potions / bandages which means Healers are once again a high demand class, as they should be. Is this true?
Yes they are, there will probably be 1 healer and 1 buffer per party (of 6).
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Heh....this is funny.
I played Aion as part of the last beta weekend because I heard it was going to be a good DAoC replacement. After playing, I immediately re-subbed to DAoC. Waiting for the server consolidation in July. Thank you Aion for sending me back to DAoC.
So you played it before you got to any PvP content, and quit after seeing about 5% of the game?
Yep. 5% of the most boring gameplay and the most objectionable community I''ve experienced to date. My opinion.
I've played MMOs for long enough I can tell if I'm going to like a game or not in the first ten levels. "You didn't play long enough" -- Isn't that what advocates say in EVERY game forum when someone doesn't agree with them?
Heh....this is funny.
I played Aion as part of the last beta weekend because I heard it was going to be a good DAoC replacement. After playing, I immediately re-subbed to DAoC. Waiting for the server consolidation in July. Thank you Aion for sending me back to DAoC.
So you played it before you got to any PvP content, and quit after seeing about 5% of the game?
Yep. 5% of the most boring gameplay and the most objectionable community I''ve experienced to date. My opinion.
I've played MMOs for long enough I can tell if I'm going to like a game or not in the first ten levels. "You didn't play long enough" -- Isn't that what advocates say in EVERY game forum when someone doesn't agree with them?
Well to be completely honest, if the classic DAoC servers weren't near death, I'd still be playing it. Whats the point of paying to play an MMO when theres only 50-100 people on a 3 server cluster? By the way, just to make sure I'm not checkin server populations during fluke maintenance hours, the classic cluster currently has 92 people playing... no thanks. I love DAoC to death and it's probably my #1 or #2 MMO, but it's dying a slow death.
WAR was no where near as much fun, so unless Mythic decides to make DAoC 2, than I'm thinking Aion is my next best bet.
Yes, I still play on the classic server and there is no one there, except on weekends. I'm continuing to level until they consolidate servers in July. Then I will have a few nice beefy characters to transfer onto a more populated server. Judging from the numbers, the new server should have around 3,000 online most times. That's enough for me personally.
I think there are a lot of people subscribed and either play irregularly or just waiting to see what will happen. The housing areas are still pretty full and you have to have an account and be paying weekly rent to keep the house. You can only deposit 4 weeks of rent so anyone with a house has to be logging in at least once a month to pay up their rent.
The server consolidation should bring back people, like you, who stopped playing because of the low numbers. I keeping my fingers crossed because DAoC and UO are still my #1 and #2 MMOs.
I'm confused. DAoC players like the game because it had seperate PvE and PvP. From what I understand, that essentially doesn't exist after level 20 or so in Aion, where the majority of the progress, loot and so forth can only be had in the Abyss. Unless you like to grind a bunch of crappy exp mobs for the last 30 levels and beyond, there isn't nearly enough PvE content to make anyone but a die hard PvPer happy.
With PvE raiding, it has never been a question of being "good enough". I play games to have fun, not to be a simpering toady sitting through hour after hour of mind numbing boredom and fawning over a guild master in the hopes that he will condescend to reward me with shiny bits of loot. But in games where those people get the highest progression, anyone who doesn't do that will just be a moving target for them and I'll be damned if I'm going to pay money for the privilege. - Neanderthal
I love these: 'I played the beta for 25 minutes and I'm going back to daoc' posts.
Hehe go back to your dead game and have fun.
If you didn't figure out that the abyss opens its doors for level 25 players upwards and that the action [loads of different abyss armor sets/weapons/jewlery, pvp ranking, transformation, fortress sieges and all of this with the possiblity to fly (no not the gliding that you see early in the game, real flying)] starts there then noone can help you.
Anyhow I don't see a reason that the aion community should bother trying to convice anyone to join in. These forums are full of bitter and biased people.
The "action" starts at level 25? ROTFL.
I played for 2 days and got to level 17. There is NO WAY I'd continue on to 25.
I love how a game's advocates always regurgitate the, "you have to get to level X before it gets good" argument. That's like asking someone to eat a pile of worms because there is a steak underneath.
Yea I would also prefer mmos without the necessity to grind to be able to see the important parts of the game. But as long is it is the way it is you can't even judge 20% of a game that requires you to level up to see/participate in the good stuff.
but those ncsoft games have always had more subs than DAOC.
daoc has one of the worst populations now for the last 3 years.
Not to mention that daoc has the worst controls I have ever seen. Feels like driving a car without steering wheel and tires.
The "action" starts at level 25? ROTFL.
I played for 2 days and got to level 17. There is NO WAY I'd continue on to 25.
I love how a game's advocates always regurgitate the, "you have to get to level X before it gets good" argument. That's like asking someone to eat a pile of worms because there is a steak underneath.
Maybe some people don't want to be ganked and killed as a level 1 lowbie. The only thing that begins at lvl 25+ is the Abyss. If you had followed any of the story from your character getting its memories back and becoming a daeva, and getting stronger, you might realize this. And I never heard anyone refer to lvl 1-20 as eating a pile of worms in Aion. I thought the instance and quest combat was rather enjoyable.
Thank you for your post. Been around this website for years, and barely post anything, but this time it's worth a reply.
TbhI have been looking for a replacement game that offered the kind of gaming experience that DAOC was pre-TOA. When getting DF to open was the highlight of an evening, with its unique RVR experience, rushing to the other faction's side for some epic fights. Lurking around as a stealther, avoiding aggro and being detected, or forcing your way as a group.
By what you say, it seems to have taken the best of the DAOC model, and improved on it.
Building your equipment, based on a few drops, and the rest just crafted items and spellcrafting that really made your character unique, something you worked on and kept for a long time, until one day you got some cool item and had to change a few pieces around it. I'm talking pre-TOA here. What we played for were RR and improving some key skills on our characters, yes, but most of all it had no other rewards than just the fun of it. No drops, no PQs, no gold bags and so on.
War has not brought back that RVR excitement, and I had such high hopes for that game, even considering the Tombs Kings that's about to come out. But I'll give it a try, one never knows.
I've been watching Aion for a long time, and finally got to very briefly try the Chinese beta. By the little I have seen, It's overwhelmingly beautiful, plays great.
What you said really made my day, I was wondering if it could be the game I want it to be.
See you there.
No, you misunderstand. their current "plan" is to consolidate the three clusters (Devon, Killibury, and Bossiney) into a single server. No cluster, just a single server. I'm not sure what will happen between Classic and ToA, but at this point, I'd rather have 3K players available than quibble about rulesets. I'm also not sure if they will allow characters on all realms, but I hope they do. I've got 4 Alb, 6 Hib, and 3 Mid.
They did say they would archive all characters on the old servers so players coming back could have their characters transfered, if they want.
Wanted to correct some stuff
What does that mean?
Other than that it seems like AION is the game WAR should have been. Too bad it has that weird Anime style, really hate that and probably the main reason why I wont like the game.
Gotta admit the anime thiing is a turn off for me too. I really do not want to be this guy:
Gotta cringe every time some Caucasian talks about something being "too 'Anime"
'Anime' refers to Japanese animation, and it consists many different visual styles, from Dragonball to Witch Hunter Robin. It wouldn't bug me as much if specific artists or studios were mentioned, but people tend to generalise too much.
Saying Aion is too 'Anime' is like saying Warcraft is too 'Disney'. Actually AION is not anime at all. It's much closer to Guildwars and I aint heard that called anime. And one thing is for sure the graphics are way ahead of Warhammer, Chronicles of Spellborn or AoC. There is huge diversity of charcter creation in Aion. The character creation system uses slider values similar to the one used in Oblivion. You can create a character that looks like Gandalf or Aragorn if you like.
There are 20+ premade faces but each face can be manipulated. Eye shape, eye height, nose shape, nose height, nose protrusion, ear shape, lip shape, jaw shape. The list goes on and on. So you could start with an anime charcter and turn it into anything you want. If your fancy takes you, you can make Barak Obama with angel wings!
Are these AION images anime?
http://img151.imageshack.us/i/aion0003j.jpg/
http://img205.imageshack.us/i/aion0011m.jpg/
Get over it... the guy looks gay as hell, and he does have an anime look to him. It's nice to see that you automatically assume he/she is caucasian as well.
looks more like CGI to me. but ill try this game out if its cheap lol. or if they have a open beta. sounds better then the star wars mmo.
Is this the first time you guys have heard about this game?
It obviously seems that way.
I mean, complaining about the character models is the last thing you guys should even be discussing.
Why?
This game has more character customization than any game Ive seen to date.
Want to look like Obama, you can.
Brad pitt? Done.
That dwarf from lord of the rings, done.
I mean really the amount of things you can customize is almost overwhelming.
From height, body build, width of shoulders, hair colors, skin color, hair style, tattoos, facial tattoos, really the list goes on and on.
Anyone see this? http://images.mmosite.com/news/2008/11/16/Aion_111427.jpg
I don't see anyone complaining. What I do see is people giving reasons why they do not like a particular aspect of the game.
I know that it can be interpreted as 'bashing your game' but there really is no need to be all up in arms over a negative comment. Especially when the comment is a personal preference.
On the other hand, I would like to know what does being "some Caucasian" have to do with anything.
I am not all up in arms about anything, it just seems completely stupid for so many of the uninformed posters to pick on ONE avatar repeatedly when you can look as "MANLY" or fem as you want.
But can I look like this:
And beat someone with their own arm like Hollow Ichigo does in a few pages? Ok fine I admit Ulquiorra does look a little foofy but Ichigo does this to him so its ok.
Not on topic, but I have to comment the post above...
That Ichigo's transformation ( & power upgrade coming with it ) was the lamest thing I've ever seen in a manga.
I had to take it off my chest! lol
Almost stopped following Bleach after that, but wanting to know whats still in store for the other characters finaly kept me going.
I want to see old Yama's Bankai!!