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Perma banned for economy exploitation? /moved
Kelipah
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well I just started back up on my WOW account about four days ago... Then I went to log on and I was notified that I had been perma banned for economy exploitation. for one I don't even know what that means, and four two I don't beleave that I have done anything against the rules. The only thing I can think of is that a friend gave me twenty gold. I'm not rich iether. I only have about 70 gold... idk what the deal is, and I don't know what I did wrong. all I know is that this is rather disheartening, and that if my accound continues to be perma banned after my appeal which I sent in a couple days ago then It will be rather annoying being as that I had almost 56 days left of perpaid game time
Anyone know what I should do?
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Call the account support line directly. I don't know the number.
In the worst case scenario, they owe you a refund for the time card. They cannot allow you to reactivate a banned account and take money for it. If the account was banned before you reactivated it, then blizzard has chosen to break the contract with you and cannot charge take your money for a service they have chosen not to provide.
I suspect there is more to your story though. When exactly did you get banned?
Just the appeal and cross your fingers. Or, get a new account under a new name and not do what you did before. Whatever it was.
Roses are red
Violets are blue
The reviewer has a mishapen head
Which means his opinion is skewed
...Aldous.MF'n.Huxley
June 15th. And I'm not sure what I did... I read the terms, and I didn't do anything against, and I didn't recieve a warning for anything. I just got straight up perma banned for economy exploitation...
Possible the gold you had was gained thru exploit.
Roses are red
Violets are blue
The reviewer has a mishapen head
Which means his opinion is skewed
...Aldous.MF'n.Huxley
how do you gain gold in the classification of Economy Exploitation?
Anyone else have your account info? I just find it hard to believe that they would up and ban w/o proof.
WHat i am about to say here is not calling you a liar, but most posts like this has key information left out. either way tuff luck on your part. not much else you can do when slapped with a perm ban.
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Roses are red
Violets are blue
The reviewer has a mishapen head
Which means his opinion is skewed
...Aldous.MF'n.Huxley
They dont give you the proof they have anyway, as it would lead to having smarter gold farmers/exploiters, know what NOT to do.
Currently restarting World of Warcraft
Just talked to a firend who is a GM aparantly there is a huge Gold buying sting going on he said close to three thousand accounts have been perma banned.
Ouchies.
Moral of the story don't buy gold.
well you should talk to your friend here... I'm not gonna tell you my acc name or anything so that it stays anonymous and can be taken seriously, but I have seen a number of people who say the have been perma banned and didn't do anything. I did get twenty gold as a gift from a friend but I would never buy gold... that's for lamers.
oh well
lets just hope that Blizzard realizes that I'm innocent.
because those "number of people" that have been perma banned, if they were gold sellers, would go around yelling it right?
Nope, they would say they ain't and this is all an injustice etc etc.
Now, supposing your case is genuine, what can I think of is that your FRIEND's gold was bought from a gold seller and Blizzard tracked it, saw you had it and supposed you were the gold buyer. That or your account was hacked and the hacker used it to do his own dirty business for a few days, got caught and perma banned.
Both of these can be solved with an appeal or by phoning them.
Good luck!
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
because those "number of people" that have been perma banned, if they were gold sellers, would go around yelling it right?
Nope, they would say they ain't and this is all an injustice etc etc.
Now, supposing your case is genuine, what can I think of is that your FRIEND's gold was bought from a gold seller and Blizzard tracked it, saw you had it and supposed you were the gold buyer. That or your account was hacked and the hacker used it to do his own dirty business for a few days, got caught and perma banned.
Both of these can be solved with an appeal or by phoning them.
Good luck!
Blizzard would not think that by receiving 20g would be buying gold, I mean seriously, the normal minimum you can buy is 500-1000g.
Oh, and to the OP: It has happened to me before, I've lost 2 accounts to it and they dont give a crap and you won't get your account back, at least, this is my experiences.
Economy exploitation could be something like buyin off all of some resource from AH, then selling that recourse at ridiculously high price, and making sure that the price stays high by buying yourself always when someone sells at lower price. But if you have only 70 gold you wouldn't have money for such thing.
Your friend is not a GM, stop lying.
You will get your account back all you have to do is not be a retard and ask they will restore it. If they ban your account there is a GOOD reason. Either you paid someone to powerlevel , you bought gold or a gold seller was able to hack your account and was using your account to deliver gold and spam gold selling while you were not on.
Blizzard doesn't restrict in game economics that don't break the rules. I'm sure you won't find anything about that in the EULA.
because those "number of people" that have been perma banned, if they were gold sellers, would go around yelling it right?
Nope, they would say they ain't and this is all an injustice etc etc.
Now, supposing your case is genuine, what can I think of is that your FRIEND's gold was bought from a gold seller and Blizzard tracked it, saw you had it and supposed you were the gold buyer. That or your account was hacked and the hacker used it to do his own dirty business for a few days, got caught and perma banned.
Both of these can be solved with an appeal or by phoning them.
Good luck!
Volkmar is telling the truth. Very very very few cheaters have the courage to come out and admit what they did when their accounts get banned. It is almost always "I didn't do anything, my accounts just got banned for no reason". As if blizzard would just randomly ban people for no reason.
Also, companies can't "track gold" in the manner some people are suggesting. They might be able to track who is selling gold by their transaction histories and who they sell to, but once the buyer receives the gold and mixes it in with their own bank it becomes one pool of money. For example if someone buys 1,000 gold and adds it to their own 500 for a total of 1,500. If that person gives you 20 gold, there is no way for a company to know if it was the original 500 or the bought 1,000.
Long story short, if you didn't knowingly do anything wrong then customer support will sort it out and get your account back. Things like this are usually a hacked account that gold farmers are using to spam channels. If you bought gold or did something else against the rules then your account is gone. Blizzard is pretty savy about catching rule breakers.
Sweet. Well the more of these I read it seems the more likely I will be to get my account back
I've just gotta wait for Blizzard to sort the whole thing out
I think they randomly pick accounts to ban. A few months ago my account was banned for illegal activites, funny thing is that the account has been innactive for nearly two years. After asking Blizzard if someone else was using my account (didn't care that it was banned, cared more about my personal info) they reactivated the account for 30 days but never answered me if someone else was logging in on it.
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are u sure the email was from blizzard ?? i got this type of email stating that i have somehow disturbed the economy in wow and i passed that email to blizzard who told me that it was fake.if this is the case then u have been robbed dude.
I actually do know somebody who works for Blizzard after moving out to France from the UK.
They have a wide variety of tools for catching various cheaters and no they dont normally explain exactly what you did or what evidence they have against you. This is not a court of law and the burden of proof is certainly much lower.
Some things i know they ban for are the obvious, gold selling / buying, botting etc but also they have a problem with various money cheats/exploits that get introduced into the game with patches. He wouldnt give me exact details but there was a vendor item where the sell to npc price was higher than the buy from NPC price which lead to some people getting banned for making 10k in a day (Pre WOTLK).
But taking you at your word that you really haven't done anything wrong I would say its entirely possible a mistake has been made. The operation they have is huge and in that enviroment mistakes are always possible however good your systems.
When you mail your appeal I suggest you tell them you have no idea what it is about but you would be happy to answer any questions they have about your play time, activities or gold etc. Be very forthcoming and polite and ask them to double check there facts because you can only think the ban is human error. What you want to achieve is to get somebody to take the time to double check all the facts about your ban very carefully. That is easier said than done because working there can be a very pressurised environment and your dealing with idoits and scum 99% of the day (you know that 0.8% of any society that rules /law mean nothing to). Its very easy to become jaded working with that everyday.
Anyway good luck with getting justice.
it could in your famly or friend not nec you
i know a friend who hacked wow and started a private server lol
Here's my problem with all these "I got perma-banned from WoW for no reason!" threads:
In about I don't know... sometime in 2007 or I was sick of WoW, suffering major burn out having been a hardcore raider since launch. Some months after I had a quit a friend of mine came back from Iraq and announced that while here he had gotten into WoW, which was funny because I asked him if he played before he left and he was like, "No, WTF is WoW?" Side Note: my friend was detainee guard at Camp Bucca and while being at a permanent facility meant WoW was available, the connection was so bad that my friend didn't know there was such a thing as "Instant Cast" spells until he came back to the states.
Anywho... Since I wasn't playing, I offered my friend my account (with my high level raid geared toons). Well what my friend's guild decided is what they really needed was another tank, and I didn't have one. So my friend used the obvious (ly retarded) solution: he hired a power-level service which swore up and down they didn't bot.
Now keep in mind this isn't my friend primary account, it's an extra account I gave to him. As such, he was able to log onto his main /who the tank he was having power leveled, and go see what it was doing. Suffice to say he found it running around in predictable, clearly computer controlled patterns. And what got hilarious, is when he logged into the account and kicked the bot off, and moved the character: When he did this, the bot would of course assume it had been DCed and re-log it'sself, immediately get disoriented and start running into walls.
Well the next day he couldn't log into that account. I didn't have the (or even remember which) email account I used to create the account, so we never got the "ban" letter but it wass obvious what happened, and there was a good reason it did.
Sometime later we noticed something though: Even it seemed as though my account didn't exist, my characters still showed up in armory and we (I had come back to the game with a new account by this time) where able to send "Scrolls of Ressurect" and in-game, and to "friend" my characters... This was weird, because I had another friend who had had his account banned (several time, he's and idiot, completely diffrant story) and when he was banned his characters where f'n gone.
Well I eventually decided to email account support and explain the entire situation to them, and see if I could figure out what was up (I'm why not, right?). I explained to them in no uncertain terms exactly what had happened. That I had given my friend my account, understanding that that was EULA violation... and that my friend hired a power-leveler, understanding that that was a EULA violation... and that we knew the power-level service had been using bots. I recoeved a replay that the email I was sending from was the not the registered email on the account, and they couldn't talk to me about, and they gave me instructions to use if I no longer had access to the registered email account (even though on record Blizzard specifies in several places that this is my responsibility and they are obligated to help me with it).
Any, I followed the "if you longer have access to the register email" instructions and started getting my issue handled through my current email address, the first thing I got was the original 3 day Account Suspension. Ok. Let's stop there for a moment... a 3 DAY SUSPENSION notice... FOR POWERLEVELING BY MEANS OF A THIRD PARTY HACK. NOT PERMA BAN... 3 DAY SUSPENSION. Then I got a specific email from account support stating that because account was suspended for 3 days months ago, it was long since eligible for reactivation, but when account is suspended they wipe out the loging information in case the exploit you where suspended for was the result of account compromise. When suspended a suspension expires you have to reactivate you account using the instructions in the suspension notice, which as stated, I never got.
Well the climax of this long-ass story is that after violating the EULA by giving my account to a friend, and then having my friend violate the EULA by hiring a powerleveling service, and the then having the powerleveling service violate the EULA by botting and then not being able to resolve the suspension through normal channel because I didn't have access to the register email... which according the EULA is Blizzard's problem... after stright up admiting to the whole thing, I got my account (minus the powerleveled tank, but including my raid geared mains) back, and have been enjoying my old priesty (thought much more casually than I used to) ever since. (Actually, they chalked the whole thing up as though my account had been hacked... which it hadn't)
So moral of the story: It's actually not that easy to get perma-banned. As far as I'm concerned in this case they SHOULD have perma-banned me and didn't. Take this all for what it's worth, but it makes me very suspicious of "I got banned for exploiting the economy, but I never did anything!" posts. I actually know people IRL who got banned... and they all got banned for a good reason (such as responding to a GM investigating and incident with "I'm not even in Barrens chat you f$cking Nazi pig!").
In any prison, a lot of inmates will swear up and down they never broke a law. And while there must be some who are genuinely innoccent, most of them aren't. Likewise clearly most people (and I've seen MANY) who post threads claiming that they where perma-banned from no reaons, where banned for a very good reason, and most of them know exactly that reason is. Also likewise, there must also be some people who got genuinely screwed, and you may be one, and if so that sucks, but if so then I'm going to agree with those speculating that you account may been compromised and further suggest that persuing that angle may very well get your account restored.
At any rate good luck, if this was truely a mistake there's no reason to believe you get your account back, and if this was your fault, there's no reason to believe you really cared all that much to begin with.
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