Some Iranians disagree on the election results, but all Iranians agree on their universal hatred towards the USA. Stay out of it or you might unite them with their common hatred of America.
Originally posted by Precusor Originally posted by Wickersham Some Iranians disagree on the election results, but all Iranians agree on their universal hatred towards the USA. Stay out of it or you might unite them with their common hatred of America.
Some Iranians disagree on the election results, but many Iranians agree on their hatred towards the USA. Stay out of it or you might unite them with their common hatred of America. <Fixed for you>
I guess you have never met any Persians.
Perhaps I was a bit hasty when I used the words "all" and "universal hate" but my point still stands - America is not respected in Iran and any action America makes will be twisted and used as propaganda for hate and will provide justification for their motives.
It's best to let them handle their own problem. What is it with America that makes you want to interfere in other peoples affairs? A lot of your image problems internationally are the result of what you are discussing now. Turn over a new leaf and keep out of this one.
"The liberties and resulting economic prosperity that YOU take for granted were granted by those "dead guys"
Left thinking people scoffed when Bush claimed that liberating Iraq would spread the seeds of democracy throughout the region. Now look what his twisted policy has gone and done. How is Chairman Obama ever going to claim credit for this grassroots Iranian revolution? Is it too late to republish his Cairo speech and add a few lines calling on the people of Iran to rise up?
Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress.
Some Iranians disagree on the election results, but many Iranians agree on their hatred towards the USA. Stay out of it or you might unite them with their common hatred of America. <Fixed for you>
I guess you have never met any Persians.
Perhaps I was a bit hasty when I used the words "all" and "universal hate" but my point still stands - America is not respected in Iran and any action America makes will be twisted and used as propaganda for hate and will provide justification for their motives.
It's best to let them handle their own problem. What is it with America that makes you want to interfere in other peoples affairs? A lot of your image problems internationally are the result of what you are discussing now. Turn over a new leaf and keep out of this one.
Honestly man, Iran has a large population of pro-western citizens. Their regime and leadership is obviously anti-American, but their people, a large part at least, are very accepting of American ideals.
Some Iranians disagree on the election results, but many Iranians agree on their hatred towards the USA. Stay out of it or you might unite them with their common hatred of America. <Fixed for you>
I guess you have never met any Persians.
Perhaps I was a bit hasty when I used the words "all" and "universal hate" but my point still stands - America is not respected in Iran and any action America makes will be twisted and used as propaganda for hate and will provide justification for their motives.
It's best to let them handle their own problem. What is it with America that makes you want to interfere in other peoples affairs? A lot of your image problems internationally are the result of what you are discussing now. Turn over a new leaf and keep out of this one.
Honestly man, Iran has a large population of pro-western citizens. Their regime and leadership is obviously anti-American, but their people, a large part at least, are very accepting of American ideals.
There is a difference between accepting ideals and people and accepting the intervention of foreign nationals and foreign nations. The people of Iran will defend their nation (even as it exists today) if the west attempts to interfere with their internal affairs. Do not be mislead about this - if given a choice between Iran and a western sponsored Iranian state even the most moderate Iranian will defend Iran against the west.
"The liberties and resulting economic prosperity that YOU take for granted were granted by those "dead guys"
I would not, in the slightest, be surprised if there was some string-pulling from the US or other Western powers involved in all the riots in such. I mean, the Iranian people started all this, but if -I- were running a country like the US, I'd hire a few ringers to hang out in the back of the crowd and incite people. Let someone else topple the government, so -you- don't get the flak.
Originally posted by frodus That Damn Bush Legacy Left thinking people scoffed when Bush claimed that liberating Iraq would spread the seeds of democracy throughout the region. Now look what his twisted policy has gone and done. How is Chairman Obama ever going to claim credit for this grassroots Iranian revolution? Is it too late to republish his Cairo speech and add a few lines calling on the people of Iran to rise up?
Haven't seen anything Bush has done good for Iran except taking out Saddam.
Iran now doesn't have to build up its military anymore because they have no country near them that's hostile towards them. So now are free to pursue nuclear ambitions because the United States can no longer convince and bribe Saddam to bomb Iran again like we did in the 80s.
All Bush did was just take a big military monkey off of Iran's shoulders so they could put less into conventional weapons.
Left thinking people scoffed when Bush claimed that liberating Iraq would spread the seeds of democracy throughout the region. Now look what his twisted policy has gone and done. How is Chairman Obama ever going to claim credit for this grassroots Iranian revolution? Is it too late to republish his Cairo speech and add a few lines calling on the people of Iran to rise up?
Haven't seen anything Bush has done good for Iran except taking out Saddam.
Iran now doesn't have to build up its military anymore because they have no country near them that's hostile towards them. So now are free to pursue nuclear ambitions because the United States can no longer convince and bribe Saddam to bomb Iran again like we did in the 80sPeace.
All Bush did was just take a big military monkey off of Iran's shoulders so they could put less into conventional weapons.
/peace
Peace is what see seek comrade,yes we substituted an Iraq Military for the US and Israel army and a British.This plan has been ion place since 911.All for Iran.
Even so comrade, I'm worried. Apparently, according to the protesters, this uprising isn't just about a stolen election (ACORN can breath a sigh of relief) but rather soaring inflation and lack of freedom.
These are the very things that Obama is trying to do for America. What if these Tea Party miscreants start to get the same idea as these Iranians? Revolution is infectious comrades.
We must redouble our efforts to turn ACORN and Americorps into Basiji cadres and arm them. Colonel 7.62, we'll need to start stockpiling people's rifles and truncheons.
Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress.
Originally posted by frodus Originally posted by popinjay
Originally posted by frodus That Damn Bush Legacy Left thinking people scoffed when Bush claimed that liberating Iraq would spread the seeds of democracy throughout the region. Now look what his twisted policy has gone and done. How is Chairman Obama ever going to claim credit for this grassroots Iranian revolution? Is it too late to republish his Cairo speech and add a few lines calling on the people of Iran to rise up?
Haven't seen anything Bush has done good for Iran except taking out Saddam.
Iran now doesn't have to build up its military anymore because they have no country near them that's hostile towards them. So now are free to pursue nuclear ambitions because the United States can no longer convince and bribe Saddam to bomb Iran again like we did in the 80sPeace.
All Bush did was just take a big military monkey off of Iran's shoulders so they could put less into conventional weapons.
/peace
Peace is what see seek comrade,yes we substituted an Iraq Military for the US and Israel army and a British.This plan has been ion place since 911.All for Iran.
Even so comrade, I'm worried. Apparently, according to the protesters, this uprising isn't just about a stolen election (ACORN can breath a sigh of relief) but rather soaring inflation and lack of freedom. These are the very things that Obama is trying to do for America. What if these Tea Party miscreants start to get the same idea as these Iranians? Revolution is infectious comrades. We must redouble our efforts to turn ACORN and Americorps into Basiji cadres and arm them. Colonel 7.62, we'll need to start stockpiling people's rifles and truncheons. oh.
Some Iranians disagree on the election results, but all Iranians agree on their universal hatred towards the USA. Stay out of it or you might unite them with their common hatred of America.
Exactly what I was going to say, if you get involved, they will unite on their sole hatred towards America and dsiregard the election results and aim their fury at America, if that's what you want, by all means do so but don't cry afterwards.
While I wish that we would stay out of it, that is not how our corrupt officials work, nor did the consquences stop them from doing so in the past. I have no idea why they cannot leave well enough alone. Regardless of what is made public, they always have their noses in everyone else's business. The only candidate that would have kept us out of everyone else's business was RON PAUL, but people do not take him seriously.
Ron Paul's policy., Pull all US troops from all over the world back to the US. Bend over and let all other countries give it to you up the bum in the curreent global economy. THEN get rid of the paper dollar and go to the gold standard.
Gee, wonder why no one takes him seriously? That's such a great plan.
Pulling all the US troops out of foreign countries would not allow them to "give it to us up the bum" as you so quoted. I know that pulling our troops out of Japan would just incite other countries to screw us over. Also if you had ANY knowledge of economics you would understand why having America on the gold standard is the best form of currency ever. Our paper money is so easily manipulated by our own polticians and foreign governements it's not even funny. You have no clue what you are talking about on either of your points against Ron Paul. Pick up a history book and an economics for dummies and educate yourself.
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." ~ Ronald Reagan
I think Obama needs to keep his mouth shut on this Iran election ordeal. All we need is our gas prices to spike to 5.00 a gallon during this recession we are in.
Some Iranians disagree on the election results, but all Iranians agree on their universal hatred towards the USA. Stay out of it or you might unite them with their common hatred of America.
Exactly what I was going to say, if you get involved, they will unite on their sole hatred towards America and dsiregard the election results and aim their fury at America, if that's what you want, by all means do so but don't cry afterwards.
While I wish that we would stay out of it, that is not how our corrupt officials work, nor did the consquences stop them from doing so in the past. I have no idea why they cannot leave well enough alone. Regardless of what is made public, they always have their noses in everyone else's business. The only candidate that would have kept us out of everyone else's business was RON PAUL, but people do not take him seriously.
Ron Paul's policy., Pull all US troops from all over the world back to the US. Bend over and let all other countries give it to you up the bum in the curreent global economy. THEN get rid of the paper dollar and go to the gold standard.
Gee, wonder why no one takes him seriously? That's such a great plan.
Pulling all the US troops out of foreign countries would not allow them to "give it to us up the bum" as you so quoted. I know that pulling our troops out of Japan would just incite other countries to screw us over. Also if you had ANY knowledge of economics you would understand why having America on the gold standard is the best form of currency ever. Our paper money is so easily manipulated by our own polticians and foreign governements it's not even funny. You have no clue what you are talking about on either of your points against Ron Paul. Pick up a history book and an economics for dummies and educate yourself.
Yes, but why debate something when you can oversimplify it, then mock your oversimplification?
Also, nice avatar. Michael Whelan's illustration from Crown of Shadows rocks. Pretty good book, too. I enjoyed the Coldfire trilogy way back when. It's always nice when I see they are still in print.
Some Iranians disagree on the election results, but all Iranians agree on their universal hatred towards the USA. Stay out of it or you might unite them with their common hatred of America.
I guess you have never met any Persians.
There are no Persians in existence today. Persia ended in 1935. Read some history.
Originally posted by outfctrl I think Obama needs to keep his mouth shut on this Iran election ordeal. All we need is our gas prices to spike to 5.00 a gallon during this recession we are in. There is nothing we could do anyways.
You actually think Obama did something right???
Wow.. I'm going to write this date down because even Ripley wouldn't believe this.
9.6.23 The criminal US federal reserve private corporation will never allow the US to go off it's scam debt based reserve notes and back to pre 1971 gold standard based economy.
Because the US actually owns VERY LITTLE of the world's gold bullion, though as the above picture demonstrates (us$223 Billion public value) the Fed does store about 7.5 thousand tons below Manhattan (about 25% of the world gold reserve); (fyi, each of those 28 lb gold bars is worth about half a million $ [28 lb bar x 16 oz/lb x us$926 private $/oz = us$414,803 per bar)
the US is listed as the largest holder of bullion (about 8 K tons) but for decades the US has resisted a serious analytical assay to prove that number and conspired with the fed to just force the public world to accept on faith it owns that much gold. Much like the scam where the banks insisted the world accept they were solvent and in no danger of collapse...
In fact most of the world's gold is owned by european banks +75% and in the last five years China has quietly behind the scenes shifted much of it's curency reserves from us$ into gold (going from in 2003 the 76th largest holder to 7th in 2009.)
If the US went to a gold based economy the world currency standard would be the uro not the us$. The EUR is down from last year's us$1.60 to today's us$1.40 per euro... (fyi the us$ is worth about a quarter vs the Kuwaiti Dinar) Obviously there is a reason the european and Kuwaiti currency is worth more than the US $... HARD GOLD RESERVES to back those currencies instead of the us Fed's lies it prints money out of thin air from.
... edit Persia goes back about 9,000 years. It is one of the oldest empires in the world. Locally the name is Iran, to the west from the 6th century BC to about 1935 it was Persia. In that year (1935), Reza Shah asked the international community to call the country by the name "Iran"; in 1949 Mohammad Reza Shah announced that both terms (Persia [cultural] or Iran [political]) could officially be used interchangeably. Since the Iranian Revolution of 1979, the official name of the country has been the "Islamic Republic of Iran." Keeping Persia (Iran and Iraq) separated is a political conspiracy to separate the Shia into Arabs (Iraq) and Persians (Iran).
I think Obama needs to keep his mouth shut on this Iran election ordeal. All we need is our gas prices to spike to 5.00 a gallon during this recession we are in.
There is nothing we could do anyways.
You actually think Obama did something right???
Wow.. I'm going to write this date down because even Ripley wouldn't believe this.
Wise ass.......LOL
You had to poke, didnt you.
I am just saying, that every time he opens his mouth, something terrible happens, but every time Biden opens his mouth, we all get a good laugh.
I cant fall into the middle of the road camp,nor will i live in the status quo camp either.
The flags on the map represent a US military presence. You still think Iranians want our “Help?”
Al-Qaida says it will use Pakistan's nuclear weapons against the U.S. if it ever gets the chance. We're not surprised. Nor would we be surprised if it eventually got the opportunity.THis was released friday.
"God willing, the (Pakistani) nuclear weapons will not fall into the hands of the Americans, and the mujahedeen would take them and use them against the Americans." So says Mustafa Abu al-Yazid, al-Qaida's top commander in Afghanistan, where the terror group has found a friend and ally in the Taliban.
The protests in Tehran no doubt have many sincere participants. The protests also have the hallmarks of the CIA orchestrated protests in Georgia and Ukraine. It requires total blindness not to see this.
Daniel McAdams has made some telling points. For example, neoconservative Kenneth Timmerman wrote the day before the election that “there’s talk of a ‘green revolution’ in Tehran.” How would Timmerman know that unless it was an orchestrated plan? Why would there be a ‘green revolution’ prepared prior to the vote, especially if Mousavi and his supporters were as confident of victory as they claim? This looks like definite evidence that the US is involved in the election protests.
Obama has taken out the funding of Iran operations in the 2010 budget.
Biden opened his mouth briefly and warned that Obama would be tested in his 6 months,they where briefed after the election and while bush was still in office about the Iranian plan.
Thousands of tweets and retweets alleging that the election was a fraud, calling for protests in Iran, and even urging followers hack various Iranian news websites (which they did successfully). The Twitter popularity caught the eye of various blogs such as Mashable and TechCrunch and even made its way to mainstream news media sites.
Were these legitimate Iranian people or the works of a propaganda machine?
30,000 Iran related tweets in the past few days. Each of them had some striking similarities -
They each created their twitter accounts on Saturday June 13th.
Each had extremely high number of Tweets since creating their profiles.
“IranElection” was each of their most popular keyword
With some very small exceptions, each were posting in ENGLISH.
Half of them had the exact same profile photo
Each had thousands of followers, with only a few friends. Most of their friends were EACH OTHER.
Why were these tweets in English? Why were all of these profiles OBSESSED with Iran? It became obvious that this was the work of a team of people with an interest in destabilizing Iran. The profiles are phonies and were created with the sole intention of destabilizing Iran and effecting public opinion as to the legitimacy of Iran’s election.
I see the finger prints of the CIA,Israel,and British.the networks use to support the fight now the networks have become a weapon.
I suspect Obama will protect the stats quo.and it will come to a end.And even after all this death they will be invited to the 4 of July celebrations away.
But if you see the ministry of oil go up in flames you now its on like Donky Kong.Then the pilers of their economy are under assault as well.
Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress.
I cant fall into the middle of the road camp,nor will i live in the status quo camp either. The flags on the map represent a US military presence. You still think Iranians want our “Help?” Al-Qaida says it will use Pakistan's nuclear weapons against the U.S. if it ever gets the chance. We're not surprised. Nor would we be surprised if it eventually got the opportunity.THis was released friday. "God willing, the (Pakistani) nuclear weapons will not fall into the hands of the Americans, and the mujahedeen would take them and use them against the Americans." So says Mustafa Abu al-Yazid, al-Qaida's top commander in Afghanistan, where the terror group has found a friend and ally in the Taliban. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/alqaida-threatens-to-use-pakistani-nuclear-weapons-1713388.html The protests in Tehran no doubt have many sincere participants. The protests also have the hallmarks of the CIA orchestrated protests in Georgia and Ukraine. It requires total blindness not to see this. Daniel McAdams has made some telling points. For example, neoconservative Kenneth Timmerman wrote the day before the election that “there’s talk of a ‘green revolution’ in Tehran.” How would Timmerman know that unless it was an orchestrated plan? Why would there be a ‘green revolution’ prepared prior to the vote, especially if Mousavi and his supporters were as confident of victory as they claim? This looks like definite evidence that the US is involved in the election protests.
Obama has taken out the funding of Iran operations in the 2010 budget. Biden opened his mouth briefly and warned that Obama would be tested in his 6 months,they where briefed after the election and while bush was still in office about the Iranian plan. Thousands of tweets and retweets alleging that the election was a fraud, calling for protests in Iran, and even urging followers hack various Iranian news websites (which they did successfully). The Twitter popularity caught the eye of various blogs such as Mashable and TechCrunch and even made its way to mainstream news media sites. Were these legitimate Iranian people or the works of a propaganda machine? 30,000 Iran related tweets in the past few days. Each of them had some striking similarities - They each created their twitter accounts on Saturday June 13th.
Each had extremely high number of Tweets since creating their profiles.
“IranElection” was each of their most popular keyword
With some very small exceptions, each were posting in ENGLISH.
Half of them had the exact same profile photo
Each had thousands of followers, with only a few friends. Most of their friends were EACH OTHER.
Why were these tweets in English? Why were all of these profiles OBSESSED with Iran? It became obvious that this was the work of a team of people with an interest in destabilizing Iran. The profiles are phonies and were created with the sole intention of destabilizing Iran and effecting public opinion as to the legitimacy of Iran’s election. I see the finger prints of the CIA,Israel,and British.the networks use to support the fight now the networks have become a weapon. I suspect Obama will protect the stats quo.and it will come to a end.And even after all this death they will be invited to the 4 of July celebrations away. But if you see the ministry of oil go up in flames you now its on like Donky Kong.Then the pilers of their economy are under assault as well.
It's not like Iran needs help for getting bad publicity though. Half of what comes out of their president's mouth is pure drivel.
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I guess you have never met any Persians.
I guess you have never met any Persians.
/popcorn
"TO MICHAEL!"
I guess you have never met any Persians.
Perhaps I was a bit hasty when I used the words "all" and "universal hate" but my point still stands - America is not respected in Iran and any action America makes will be twisted and used as propaganda for hate and will provide justification for their motives.
It's best to let them handle their own problem. What is it with America that makes you want to interfere in other peoples affairs? A lot of your image problems internationally are the result of what you are discussing now. Turn over a new leaf and keep out of this one.
"The liberties and resulting economic prosperity that YOU take for granted were granted by those "dead guys"
That Damn Bush Legacy
Left thinking people scoffed when Bush claimed that liberating Iraq would spread the seeds of democracy throughout the region. Now look what his twisted policy has gone and done. How is Chairman Obama ever going to claim credit for this grassroots Iranian revolution? Is it too late to republish his Cairo speech and add a few lines calling on the people of Iran to rise up?
Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress.
I guess you have never met any Persians.
Perhaps I was a bit hasty when I used the words "all" and "universal hate" but my point still stands - America is not respected in Iran and any action America makes will be twisted and used as propaganda for hate and will provide justification for their motives.
It's best to let them handle their own problem. What is it with America that makes you want to interfere in other peoples affairs? A lot of your image problems internationally are the result of what you are discussing now. Turn over a new leaf and keep out of this one.
Honestly man, Iran has a large population of pro-western citizens. Their regime and leadership is obviously anti-American, but their people, a large part at least, are very accepting of American ideals.
I guess you have never met any Persians.
Perhaps I was a bit hasty when I used the words "all" and "universal hate" but my point still stands - America is not respected in Iran and any action America makes will be twisted and used as propaganda for hate and will provide justification for their motives.
It's best to let them handle their own problem. What is it with America that makes you want to interfere in other peoples affairs? A lot of your image problems internationally are the result of what you are discussing now. Turn over a new leaf and keep out of this one.
Honestly man, Iran has a large population of pro-western citizens. Their regime and leadership is obviously anti-American, but their people, a large part at least, are very accepting of American ideals.
There is a difference between accepting ideals and people and accepting the intervention of foreign nationals and foreign nations. The people of Iran will defend their nation (even as it exists today) if the west attempts to interfere with their internal affairs. Do not be mislead about this - if given a choice between Iran and a western sponsored Iranian state even the most moderate Iranian will defend Iran against the west.
"The liberties and resulting economic prosperity that YOU take for granted were granted by those "dead guys"
I would not, in the slightest, be surprised if there was some string-pulling from the US or other Western powers involved in all the riots in such. I mean, the Iranian people started all this, but if -I- were running a country like the US, I'd hire a few ringers to hang out in the back of the crowd and incite people. Let someone else topple the government, so -you- don't get the flak.
Haven't seen anything Bush has done good for Iran except taking out Saddam.
Iran now doesn't have to build up its military anymore because they have no country near them that's hostile towards them. So now are free to pursue nuclear ambitions because the United States can no longer convince and bribe Saddam to bomb Iran again like we did in the 80s.
All Bush did was just take a big military monkey off of Iran's shoulders so they could put less into conventional weapons.
/peace
"TO MICHAEL!"
Haven't seen anything Bush has done good for Iran except taking out Saddam.
Iran now doesn't have to build up its military anymore because they have no country near them that's hostile towards them. So now are free to pursue nuclear ambitions because the United States can no longer convince and bribe Saddam to bomb Iran again like we did in the 80sPeace.
All Bush did was just take a big military monkey off of Iran's shoulders so they could put less into conventional weapons.
/peace
Peace is what see seek comrade,yes we substituted an Iraq Military for the US and Israel army and a British.This plan has been ion place since 911.All for Iran.
Even so comrade, I'm worried. Apparently, according to the protesters, this uprising isn't just about a stolen election (ACORN can breath a sigh of relief) but rather soaring inflation and lack of freedom.
These are the very things that Obama is trying to do for America. What if these Tea Party miscreants start to get the same idea as these Iranians? Revolution is infectious comrades.
We must redouble our efforts to turn ACORN and Americorps into Basiji cadres and arm them. Colonel 7.62, we'll need to start stockpiling people's rifles and truncheons.
Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress.
Haven't seen anything Bush has done good for Iran except taking out Saddam.
Iran now doesn't have to build up its military anymore because they have no country near them that's hostile towards them. So now are free to pursue nuclear ambitions because the United States can no longer convince and bribe Saddam to bomb Iran again like we did in the 80sPeace.
All Bush did was just take a big military monkey off of Iran's shoulders so they could put less into conventional weapons.
/peace
Peace is what see seek comrade,yes we substituted an Iraq Military for the US and Israel army and a British.This plan has been ion place since 911.All for Iran.
Even so comrade, I'm worried. Apparently, according to the protesters, this uprising isn't just about a stolen election (ACORN can breath a sigh of relief) but rather soaring inflation and lack of freedom.
These are the very things that Obama is trying to do for America. What if these Tea Party miscreants start to get the same idea as these Iranians? Revolution is infectious comrades.
We must redouble our efforts to turn ACORN and Americorps into Basiji cadres and arm them. Colonel 7.62, we'll need to start stockpiling people's rifles and truncheons.
oh.
okay.
"TO MICHAEL!"
Exactly what I was going to say, if you get involved, they will unite on their sole hatred towards America and dsiregard the election results and aim their fury at America, if that's what you want, by all means do so but don't cry afterwards.
While I wish that we would stay out of it, that is not how our corrupt officials work, nor did the consquences stop them from doing so in the past. I have no idea why they cannot leave well enough alone. Regardless of what is made public, they always have their noses in everyone else's business. The only candidate that would have kept us out of everyone else's business was RON PAUL, but people do not take him seriously.
Ron Paul's policy., Pull all US troops from all over the world back to the US. Bend over and let all other countries give it to you up the bum in the curreent global economy. THEN get rid of the paper dollar and go to the gold standard.
Gee, wonder why no one takes him seriously? That's such a great plan.
Pulling all the US troops out of foreign countries would not allow them to "give it to us up the bum" as you so quoted. I know that pulling our troops out of Japan would just incite other countries to screw us over. Also if you had ANY knowledge of economics you would understand why having America on the gold standard is the best form of currency ever. Our paper money is so easily manipulated by our own polticians and foreign governements it's not even funny. You have no clue what you are talking about on either of your points against Ron Paul. Pick up a history book and an economics for dummies and educate yourself.
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." ~ Ronald Reagan
I think Obama needs to keep his mouth shut on this Iran election ordeal. All we need is our gas prices to spike to 5.00 a gallon during this recession we are in.
There is nothing we could do anyways.
Exactly what I was going to say, if you get involved, they will unite on their sole hatred towards America and dsiregard the election results and aim their fury at America, if that's what you want, by all means do so but don't cry afterwards.
While I wish that we would stay out of it, that is not how our corrupt officials work, nor did the consquences stop them from doing so in the past. I have no idea why they cannot leave well enough alone. Regardless of what is made public, they always have their noses in everyone else's business. The only candidate that would have kept us out of everyone else's business was RON PAUL, but people do not take him seriously.
Ron Paul's policy., Pull all US troops from all over the world back to the US. Bend over and let all other countries give it to you up the bum in the curreent global economy. THEN get rid of the paper dollar and go to the gold standard.
Gee, wonder why no one takes him seriously? That's such a great plan.
Pulling all the US troops out of foreign countries would not allow them to "give it to us up the bum" as you so quoted. I know that pulling our troops out of Japan would just incite other countries to screw us over. Also if you had ANY knowledge of economics you would understand why having America on the gold standard is the best form of currency ever. Our paper money is so easily manipulated by our own polticians and foreign governements it's not even funny. You have no clue what you are talking about on either of your points against Ron Paul. Pick up a history book and an economics for dummies and educate yourself.
Yes, but why debate something when you can oversimplify it, then mock your oversimplification?
Also, nice avatar. Michael Whelan's illustration from Crown of Shadows rocks. Pretty good book, too. I enjoyed the Coldfire trilogy way back when. It's always nice when I see they are still in print.
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I guess you have never met any Persians.
There are no Persians in existence today. Persia ended in 1935. Read some history.
You actually think Obama did something right???
Wow.. I'm going to write this date down because even Ripley wouldn't believe this.
"TO MICHAEL!"
9.6.23
The criminal US federal reserve private corporation will never allow the US to go off it's scam debt based reserve notes and back to pre 1971 gold standard based economy.
Because the US actually owns VERY LITTLE of the world's gold bullion, though as the above picture demonstrates (us$223 Billion public value) the Fed does store about 7.5 thousand tons below Manhattan (about 25% of the world gold reserve);
(fyi, each of those 28 lb gold bars is worth about half a million $ [28 lb bar x 16 oz/lb x us$926 private $/oz = us$414,803 per bar)
the US is listed as the largest holder of bullion (about 8 K tons) but for decades the US has resisted a serious analytical assay to prove that number and conspired with the fed to just force the public world to accept on faith it owns that much gold. Much like the scam where the banks insisted the world accept they were solvent and in no danger of collapse...
In fact most of the world's gold is owned by european banks +75% and in the last five years China has quietly behind the scenes shifted much of it's curency reserves from us$ into gold (going from in 2003 the 76th largest holder to 7th in 2009.)
If the US went to a gold based economy the world currency standard would be the uro not the us$. The EUR is down from last year's us$1.60 to today's us$1.40 per euro... (fyi the us$ is worth about a quarter vs the Kuwaiti Dinar)
Obviously there is a reason the european and Kuwaiti currency is worth more than the US $... HARD GOLD RESERVES to back those currencies instead of the us Fed's lies it prints money out of thin air from.
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Persia goes back about 9,000 years. It is one of the oldest empires in the world.
Locally the name is Iran, to the west from the 6th century BC to about 1935 it was Persia. In that year (1935), Reza Shah asked the international community to call the country by the name "Iran"; in 1949 Mohammad Reza Shah announced that both terms (Persia [cultural] or Iran [political]) could officially be used interchangeably.
Since the Iranian Revolution of 1979, the official name of the country has been the "Islamic Republic of Iran."
Keeping Persia (Iran and Iraq) separated is a political conspiracy to separate the Shia into Arabs (Iraq) and Persians (Iran).
You actually think Obama did something right???
Wow.. I'm going to write this date down because even Ripley wouldn't believe this.
Wise ass.......LOL
You had to poke, didnt you.
I am just saying, that every time he opens his mouth, something terrible happens, but every time Biden opens his mouth, we all get a good laugh.
I cant fall into the middle of the road camp,nor will i live in the status quo camp either.
The flags on the map represent a US military presence. You still think Iranians want our “Help?”
Al-Qaida says it will use Pakistan's nuclear weapons against the U.S. if it ever gets the chance. We're not surprised. Nor would we be surprised if it eventually got the opportunity.THis was released friday.
"God willing, the (Pakistani) nuclear weapons will not fall into the hands of the Americans, and the mujahedeen would take them and use them against the Americans." So says Mustafa Abu al-Yazid, al-Qaida's top commander in Afghanistan, where the terror group has found a friend and ally in the Taliban.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/alqaida-threatens-to-use-pakistani-nuclear-weapons-1713388.html
The protests in Tehran no doubt have many sincere participants. The protests also have the hallmarks of the CIA orchestrated protests in Georgia and Ukraine. It requires total blindness not to see this.
Daniel McAdams has made some telling points. For example, neoconservative Kenneth Timmerman wrote the day before the election that “there’s talk of a ‘green revolution’ in Tehran.” How would Timmerman know that unless it was an orchestrated plan? Why would there be a ‘green revolution’ prepared prior to the vote, especially if Mousavi and his supporters were as confident of victory as they claim? This looks like definite evidence that the US is involved in the election protests.
Obama has taken out the funding of Iran operations in the 2010 budget.
Biden opened his mouth briefly and warned that Obama would be tested in his 6 months,they where briefed after the election and while bush was still in office about the Iranian plan.
Thousands of tweets and retweets alleging that the election was a fraud, calling for protests in Iran, and even urging followers hack various Iranian news websites (which they did successfully). The Twitter popularity caught the eye of various blogs such as Mashable and TechCrunch and even made its way to mainstream news media sites.
Were these legitimate Iranian people or the works of a propaganda machine?
30,000 Iran related tweets in the past few days. Each of them had some striking similarities -
They each created their twitter accounts on Saturday June 13th.
Each had extremely high number of Tweets since creating their profiles.
“IranElection” was each of their most popular keyword
With some very small exceptions, each were posting in ENGLISH.
Half of them had the exact same profile photo
Each had thousands of followers, with only a few friends. Most of their friends were EACH OTHER.
Why were these tweets in English? Why were all of these profiles OBSESSED with Iran? It became obvious that this was the work of a team of people with an interest in destabilizing Iran. The profiles are phonies and were created with the sole intention of destabilizing Iran and effecting public opinion as to the legitimacy of Iran’s election.
I see the finger prints of the CIA,Israel,and British.the networks use to support the fight now the networks have become a weapon.
I suspect Obama will protect the stats quo.and it will come to a end.And even after all this death they will be invited to the 4 of July celebrations away.
But if you see the ministry of oil go up in flames you now its on like Donky Kong.Then the pilers of their economy are under assault as well.
Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress.
It's not like Iran needs help for getting bad publicity though. Half of what comes out of their president's mouth is pure drivel.