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Sci-fi MMO, when will we get a great one.

When will we get a Sci-fi MMO thats complete with depth, and strategy.  One where you play as an AVATAR not a ship.  One where you can have crews to run ships, indepth economy, civilain factions.  Basically a virtual world where you can carve out your path.  WHEN???

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  • DarkholmeDarkholme Member UncommonPosts: 1,212

    Star Trek Online maybe?

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  • BlazzBlazz Member Posts: 321

    When we can already do that IRL, we will have it in a game.

    ...

    =(

    I am playing EVE and it's alright... level V skills are a bit much.

    You all need to learn to spell.

  • Howard2341Howard2341 Member Posts: 16

    Yea thats what i was hoping for.  But you ARE your ship.  Thats been done to death. We need something new.

  • DeathreatDeathreat Member UncommonPosts: 143

    I believe EvE is coming out with an "Avatar" mode of some sort, its probaly the best  Sci-Fi mmo we will be getting for a long time that has the things you mentioned in it.

  • Howard2341Howard2341 Member Posts: 16
    Originally posted by Deathreat


    I believe EvE is coming out with an "Avatar" mode of some sort, its probaly the best  Sci-Fi mmo we will be getting for a long time that has the things you mentioned in it.

     

    Ive played EvE and definitely a good game.  Whenever they get to implmenting avatars I will definitely be there to check it out.  If you had a game similar to EvE, but were able to have player crews and actually "running" your ship was a big part of gameplay, then I think that would be the game I am envisioning.

  • Wharg0ulWharg0ul Member Posts: 4,183

    I'd love a new Cyber-punk style MMORPG, with open, WORLD PVP (no instanced, arena / battleground shit...), and a dark, nasty atmosphere.

    Like old-school Neocron without the MAD bugs, and more content.

    But it will never happen....no one has the spine to make a game like this anymore.

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  • terrantterrant Member Posts: 1,683
    Originally posted by Wharg0ul


    I'd love a new Cyber-punk style MMORPG, with open, WORLD PVP (no instanced, arena / battleground shit...), and a dark, nasty atmosphere.
    Like old-school Neocron without the MAD bugs, and more content.
    But it will never happen....no one has the spine to make a game like this anymore.



     

    Said it before, will say it again.

     

    Someone, with half a braincell, should make a Shadowrun MMO. I realize there's some fantasy elements in that too but...if it was done WELL...I'd cancel every other sub and play that game until the day I died.

  • BlazzBlazz Member Posts: 321
    Originally posted by Wharg0ul


    I'd love a new Cyber-punk style MMORPG, with open, WORLD PVP (no instanced, arena / battleground shit...), and a dark, nasty atmosphere.
    Like old-school Neocron without the MAD bugs, and more content.
    But it will never happen....no one has the spine to make a game like this anymore.

     

    You mean a bit like... Darkfall?

    Eh,  I can see where you're coming from.

    I don't even know what I want in an MMORPG anymore, to be honest. I just want something that's fun and progressive, fun being the more important one, and I'm afraid that hasn't happened for a long time.

    I am playing EVE and it's alright... level V skills are a bit much.

    You all need to learn to spell.

  • DeathreatDeathreat Member UncommonPosts: 143
    Originally posted by Howard2341

     actually "running" your ship was a big part of gameplay, then I think that would be the game I am envisioning.

     

    This would never work because players would all want their own ship.

  • Howard2341Howard2341 Member Posts: 16
    Originally posted by terrant

    Originally posted by Wharg0ul


    I'd love a new Cyber-punk style MMORPG, with open, WORLD PVP (no instanced, arena / battleground shit...), and a dark, nasty atmosphere.
    Like old-school Neocron without the MAD bugs, and more content.
    But it will never happen....no one has the spine to make a game like this anymore.



     

    Said it before, will say it again.

     

    Someone, with half a braincell, should make a Shadowrun MMO. I realize there's some fantasy elements in that too but...if it was done WELL...I'd cancel every other sub and play that game until the day I died.

    Agreed 100%.  I loved shadowrun on both SNES and sega.  If they did it RIGHT, it would be a huge success.

  • NeikoNeiko Member UncommonPosts: 626

    Global Agenda?

  • wesjrwesjr Member UncommonPosts: 506

    Would be cool if the "ship" were in fact your guild hall, and the guild controlled it in space.

     

    PVE could be done on an avatar/fighter level and PVP could be on a mother ship to fighter ship level.

  • Wharg0ulWharg0ul Member Posts: 4,183
    Originally posted by wesjr


    Would be cool if the "ship" were in fact your guild hall, and the guild controlled it in space.
     
    PVE could be done on an avatar/fighter level and PVP could be on a mother ship to fighter ship level.



     

    they had planned to do this in SWG at one point....

    ...but we know how THAT turned out.

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  • IlayaIlaya Member UncommonPosts: 661

    Perhaps if we should get "Elite 4" ? As David Braben allways said, the tec was not good enough back then to do an propper MMO....but now....hmm...that would be awesome and tbh, i would make myself a tatoo on my b*** if it would happen.

  • GreenChaosGreenChaos Member Posts: 2,268
    Originally posted by Howard2341


    When will we get a Sci-fi MMO thats complete with depth, and strategy.  One where you play as an AVATAR not a ship.  One where you can have crews to run ships, indepth economy, civilain factions.  Basically a virtual world where you can carve out your path.  WHEN???

     

    Well there's this little software company called BioWare.  The make RPGs.  And there's this IP called Star Wars.  Put the two together and you have, Star Wars: The Old Republic.

  • djazzydjazzy Member Posts: 3,578
    Originally posted by Wharg0ul


    I'd love a new Cyber-punk style MMORPG, with open, WORLD PVP (no instanced, arena / battleground shit...), and a dark, nasty atmosphere.
    Like old-school Neocron without the MAD bugs, and more content.
    But it will never happen....no one has the spine to make a game like this anymore.



     

    I would love that too. As mentioned by the post below yours I would love a Shadowrun mmo.

    Btw, your sig is creepy. FEAR?

  • Wharg0ulWharg0ul Member Posts: 4,183
    Originally posted by arenasb

    Originally posted by Wharg0ul


    I'd love a new Cyber-punk style MMORPG, with open, WORLD PVP (no instanced, arena / battleground shit...), and a dark, nasty atmosphere.
    Like old-school Neocron without the MAD bugs, and more content.
    But it will never happen....no one has the spine to make a game like this anymore.



     

    I would love that too. As mentioned by the post below yours I would love a Shadowrun mmo.

    Btw, your sig is creepy. FEAR?



     

    Silent Hill.

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  • Wharg0ulWharg0ul Member Posts: 4,183
    Originally posted by GreenChaos

    Originally posted by Howard2341


    When will we get a Sci-fi MMO thats complete with depth, and strategy.  One where you play as an AVATAR not a ship.  One where you can have crews to run ships, indepth economy, civilain factions.  Basically a virtual world where you can carve out your path.  WHEN???

     

    Well there's this little software company called BioWare.  The make RPGs.  And there's this IP called Star Wars.  Put the two together and you have, Star Wars: The Old Republic.



     

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but SWTOR will have none of these things. Besides....they're not "iconic" or "Star Warsy".

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  • RodentofdoomRodentofdoom Member Posts: 273

    Starcraft Online..

    Would work I think. Untill something else comes along, Ill wait for Earthrise. Sci-Fi elements, fps/skill system with no levels.

     

  • AdamantineAdamantine Member RarePosts: 5,094
    Originally posted by Blazz


    When we can already do that IRL, we will have it in a game.
    ...
    =(

    I dont really believe we will ever get warp drives and stuff.

    Current physics do not have anything like this. Of course they could be wrong. But I'm not too optimistic we will ever actually be able to break the light speed barrier, or find a way to bypass it (such as with wormholes, artificial or natural).

  • AdamantineAdamantine Member RarePosts: 5,094
    Originally posted by Howard2341


    Ive played EvE and definitely a good game.  Whenever they get to implmenting avatars I will definitely be there to check it out.  If you had a game similar to EvE, but were able to have player crews and actually "running" your ship was a big part of gameplay, then I think that would be the game I am envisioning.

    Personally I think that, in a really good SF MMORPG, you would need a full guild and a huge resource collecting and crafting effort to actually create a large starship.

    Small star ships that can be used by single players should be possible too, but shouldnt have the speed and of course much less battle power, than a full starship.

    Theres a lot of blanks to fill however. How exactly would one farm for ingredients ? What are the actual quests to do ? SF usually doesnt really portrait their characters as adventurers.

    Maybe you would have to choose your race at the beginning of the game, and then cooperate with the other players of your race to avoid being conquered by the other races (or to help them conquer other races, possibly to extinction).

    Its all quite tricky to figure out, because nobody really bothered yet to do something like this.

     

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,086
    Originally posted by GreenChaos

    Originally posted by Howard2341


    When will we get a Sci-fi MMO thats complete with depth, and strategy.  One where you play as an AVATAR not a ship.  One where you can have crews to run ships, indepth economy, civilain factions.  Basically a virtual world where you can carve out your path.  WHEN???

     

    Well there's this little software company called BioWare.  The make RPGs.  And there's this IP called Star Wars.  Put the two together and you have, Star Wars: The Old Republic.

     

    Pretty sure SWTOR won't have much in the terms of in depth economy, ability to run crewed ships, or resemble a virtual world that you carve out your own path.

    They've pretty much said its designed for the player to work thorugh a pre-scripted story, with the only variety being the differences based on the paths you chose.  While their might be several paths, in the end, the song remains the same.

     

    But it will have Avatars and be based in space (sort of)

    EVE's still the only game out there, if they could just get that ambulation project delivered they'd make a whole lot more people happy.

     

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  • SlaynnSlaynn Member UncommonPosts: 109
    Originally posted by Wharg0ul


    I'd love a new Cyber-punk style MMORPG, with open, WORLD PVP (no instanced, arena / battleground shit...), and a dark, nasty atmosphere.
    Like old-school Neocron without the MAD bugs, and more content.
    But it will never happen....no one has the spine to make a game like this anymore.



     

    I would be all over a game based on the R. Talsorian game world Cyberpunk2020.  Very cool stuff there.

    It's gotten to the point where some MMOs have been reduced to little more than success dispensers. Don't think. Don't challenge yourself. Do as little as possible... but still be rewarded for it. Yeah.. *that's* fun.

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  • SabiancymSabiancym Member UncommonPosts: 3,150

    Mass Effect Online

     

    Book it.

  • Cephus404Cephus404 Member CommonPosts: 3,675
    Originally posted by GreenChaos



    Well there's this little software company called BioWare.  The make RPGs.  And there's this IP called Star Wars.  Put the two together and you have, Star Wars: The Old Republic.

     

    The problem is, Star Wars isn't really sci-fi, it's space opera, it's got it's fair share of fantasy elements in it.  Most of us want science fiction, zero-fantasy.  No magic, no "Force", nothing but serious science fiction.

    That kind of thing is going to be hard to get in the current fantasy-centric MMO world.

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