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When did playing MMO's need you to be forum literate?
shukes33
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I have just been reading DF's forums and noticed many times on this site. Comments like " i dont care for people that can't be bothered to look it up" why can't we just play a game like we used to?
Theres a thread on DF's site about the new patch. There is housing being introduced. theres a player moaning there that he doesn't know enough about it and can't find enough info about it! the patch isn't even in yet and already people want info on it? what happened to having to find these things out ? what happened to exploration? what happened to playing the game and finding new things as you go along?
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What happened to people being able to play the game the way they want and not the way you want.
Some people like to research ahead of time so they are prepared, would you stick your hand in a fire to see if it was hot or do a bit of research first to check out the results of sticking your hand in the fire.
Yep.
Generally, I play a character to the top level to get a feel for them, and then I research the hell out it. I look for strategies, power synergies, ideal gear, etc., and then decide from there what I want my final build to be like.
Also, anytime an NPC gives me a quest that says: "Go find so-and-so", I spend zero seconds trying to find them. I immediately alt-tab and look it up. One thing I despise in MMOs is hide-and-seek.
It is the "I want it now mentality" that has had a major effect on this genre. No one wants to take the time to learn something, they just want it now.
You can play the game like you want. Playing MMO's and posting on a game forum are two totally different animals. It seems like the people who post the most and linger around are really bitter angsty emo turdlocs. They don't actually play any games so you can avoid them by not visiting the forums. Really quite simple.
Yep.
Sadly new MMOGs have attracted this kind of player, that has nothing to do with a true MMORPG player, they are just single game players that want to brag in front of others, I guess.
this is exactly why i think forums should just remove the search function. nobody cares about using it, and you always end up qith the same threads over and over and over again
Nothing is wrong with that! i never said there was
that is my point, why can't we choose? i dont complain when others use the net to research and i dont complain when others dont...to me it is up to them.
But as for your example, i learn a lot of things myself through experience friend.
That's an interesting statement coming from you. Aren't you the same Ozmodan who was posting in that Star Trek thread? Part of the crowd railing against player crews because it would be too difficult, might slow you down a little, and would detract from your personal e-peen if you couldn't always be the captain?
In my book the attitudes expressed there were a good example of the "I want it now" mentality.
--- I want to always be captain and never have to play as crew with someone else playing the captain
--- I don't want to have to take a few minutes to put a group together.
--- OMG, coordinating the efforts of a small crew (we were talking about crews of just FOUR people) would be so difficult nobody could ever learn to do it so it's impossible.
--- We want NPC crews so we are never inconvenienced by dealing with real people and everything is simplified by having NPCs do it for us so we can just hurry, hurry, PEW PEW kill stuff faster for phat lewts!!!
Yep.
Sadly new MMOGs have attracted this kind of player, that has nothing to do with a true MMORPG player, they are just single game players that want to brag in front of others, I guess.
I agree.
People are expecting mmoRPG to offer instant gratification like FPS and sport games, that is so damn wrong, in RPGs you work towards your objective, be it searching for something, killing for an objective, changing the world or even your usual mindless grinding for whatever drops or experience, still there's an ultimate goal in that, impersonated by your Character and his Roleplaying. Shocking, isn't it? That's how the RPG genre has been about... for like forever.
I just hope we dont leave too much of it behind
In DF i find it more akin to these older games, it's just the players refusing to help newcomers because they havent trauled the net looking for thier answers. so sad! why not welcome these newcomers and help them by offering little tips and advice? or are we too good and righteous for these newer players?
I remember recieving my first tell in Everquest and some guy the other side of the world trying to explain to me how to talk back, without me even replying because i didnt know how...heck he didn't even know if cared or not but he still took the time. I remember finding a cave in kunark and having to work out how the heck to excape it again. i want all this back.
I dont want people in games refusing to care for others because they didnt research enough at the start! it's a game for christs sake!
Yep.
Sadly new MMOGs have attracted this kind of player, that has nothing to do with a true MMORPG player, they are just single game players that want to brag in front of others, I guess.
And what, pray tell, is a "true MMORPG player?"
I'd be very interested in hearing whatever flawed logic you use to justify this pompous statement.
this "instant gratification" insult is getting a little out of control.
We live in a world where you can answer almost any questions within a minute using wikipedia or google.
Videos stream off the web practically instantly.
Calling wanting information or tools at a rate were used to isn't some childish desire for instant gratification.
Saying your above it is like saying you'd rather ride your horse cause all those damn kids are so worried about getting places fast in their cars.
People want to get to the parts of the game they enjoy. We as a society strive towards allowing people the ability to do that.
So don't think your all high and mighty because you "enjoy the ride" You just happen to enjoy a step that most people don't.
Its like people who fix up cars. 99% of the world uses a car to get from point A to point B. The other fraction of a percent enjoy spending time with the car, working on it, fixing it up.
after 6 or so years, I had to change it a little...
Say, which feels better: Winning a boxing championship without practicing at all, only a month after starting the sport...
Or winning the championship after 5 years of hard work, dozens of fights and several losses later?
The answer should be clear.. If it isn't, maybe you haven't experienced that kind of feeling before.
To answer the OP, you don't 'need' to ever visit a forum to play an mmo. Spend enough time in these games and you realize they all work basically the same (aside from some oddballs like Darkfall or EVE). Even with those, trial and error in the game will get you where you want to go.
Many gamers, I'll wager most of those that post on forums, are simply task-oriented. They want the optimal path from A to B, and they want a clearly defined set of goals to work towards, so they look and see what others have done in order to fill out their own gameplay roadmap.
There's nothing wrong with this, and its certainly not required. For me, it takes the fun out of the game, but a lot of people can't play any other way, which is ok.