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Why WoW is being more noob friendly
Suskay123
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Yes WoW is starting to be more noob friendly, and I hate it lol =P
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Why do you hate it?
You are going to realize very quickly that unless you back up your posts and threads with a little substance people are going to TEAR YOU APART on these forums.
Back in Vanilla, mabye 1% of the player population got to experience Naxxramas and beat Kel'Thuzad. Being that raiding is where Blizzard invests the most time and energy, that sucked. Now at least 25%, at least, and it could be much more, have finished off Kel in 10 man. How does having a lot more people experience what is arguably the best part of the game suck?
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17779800832&sid=1&pageNo=1
The OP just doesn't get it!
People will do it anyway lol.
It’s blizzard. It’s a known fact that Blizzard has always tried to make things fun, simple and efficient. WOW is their landmark so far… Doesn’t mean I like the game but they did it right.
Then don't play it. Wow, that was easy.
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Easy to master, but still enjoyed.. that is the formula to making mass $$ in the gaming market. Take a look at Halo..no serious hardcore FPS player will ever give halo any respect, but the game will still make that money.
WoW, has truly mastered this by putting in the hard modes for harcore raiding players and the arena system for the HC pvp player. I'm still ready for something new, b/c i've swallowed the warcraft universe and the consistent gear chasing for too many years now. Hopefully @ blizzcon we will get some special announed that can replace WoW, or change it so much that i won't sink into raid burn out. Graphics engine is really over due for an upgrade, so hopefully we get something of that nature.
Easy to get into, hard to master...
Why can't it be like this
It is. Last I checked you could be pullin' 800 dps in a heroic (the equivalent of smashing your head against your keyboard to play) and be fine. Or you could bust your ass and theorycraft your way to 6k dps and beat hardmode Ulduar encounters ( don't know where you need to be since they nerfed the shit out of it). I mean, there was one encounter, Hodir. Pre-nerf, Ensidia, the best guild in the world ( they have fucking Saudi sponsors) had to use an exploit (flower frenzy
to beat the 2 minute timer and win it in hard mode. Best guild in the world couldn't beat it legitimately. That's a hard game to master right there.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17779800832&sid=1&pageNo=1
The OP just doesn't get it!
Instead it is "easy to get into, easy to get to lvl cap, easy to get epix, easy to get bored"
I miss the old times, pre-TBC. And before someone calls me an Elitist jerk... No back then I was not a hardcore raider.
I was a raider but not a hardcore one, I went to MC, BWL and a little of AQ. But never in a guild that farmed AQ or NAXX. Still it was interesting back then. There was a progress! You had to get some good blue gear to enter raids and get your hand on your precious epics.I wasn't fully gear in epic back then, but it was ok, I had something to look forward too and epic gear was valuable. . Today epics are everywhere.
Downing a raid boss back then was something. Today is an additional couple of epics.
And dont start telling me about achievements!
Anyway, this is my opinion and the reason I quit WoW. I just got bored of farming instances without a challenge.
Instead it is "easy to get into, easy to get to lvl cap, easy to get epix, easy to get bored"
I miss the old times, pre-TBC. And before someone calls me an Elitist jerk... No back then I was not a hardcore raider.
I was a raider but not a hardcore one, I went to MC, BWL and a little of AQ. But never in a guild who farmed AQ or NAXX. Still it was interesting back then. You had to get some blue and green gear to enter raids. Today epics are everywhere.
Downing a raid boss back then was something. Today is an additional couple of epics.
And dont start telling me about achievements!
Anyway, this is my opinion and the reason I quit WoW. I just got bored of farming instances without a challenge.
Yeah, I'm sure you just breezed through Yogg with 0 keepers and 10man Sarth+3d, right?
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17779800832&sid=1&pageNo=1
The OP just doesn't get it!
Yeah I forgot, the MMO's these days start at the endgame.... my bad.
Instead it is "easy to get into, easy to get to lvl cap, easy to get epix, easy to get bored"
I miss the old times, pre-TBC. And before someone calls me an Elitist jerk... No back then I was not a hardcore raider.
I was a raider but not a hardcore one, I went to MC, BWL and a little of AQ. But never in a guild who farmed AQ or NAXX. Still it was interesting back then. You had to get some blue and green gear to enter raids. Today epics are everywhere.
Downing a raid boss back then was something. Today is an additional couple of epics.
And dont start telling me about achievements!
Anyway, this is my opinion and the reason I quit WoW. I just got bored of farming instances without a challenge.
Yeah, I'm sure you just breezed through Yogg with 0 keepers and 10man Sarth+3d, right?
That's why you hire a chinese dude to powerlevel you to 80 ;P. Takes about 3 weeks for them!
Seriously though, it is pretty ridiculous that leveling to 80, especially everything pre-expansions, is so mundane.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17779800832&sid=1&pageNo=1
The OP just doesn't get it!
Artificial challenges, yay! A real method to add difficulty right there o=
While WotLK quests are really fun and the story is good overall they are very easy. Most 3man group quests are soloable (why the hell are they grp q). Same applies to the oldworld quests and mobs nowadays (after old world nerf).
Its just plain boring leveling. Reducing the XP required to lvl or allowing mounts to low lvls are good moves but making everything easy is not. No one is grouping for quests and even instance groups are rare (before the wotlK areas at least).
Its sad
Instead it is "easy to get into, easy to get to lvl cap, easy to get epix, easy to get bored"
I miss the old times, pre-TBC. And before someone calls me an Elitist jerk... No back then I was not a hardcore raider.
I was a raider but not a hardcore one, I went to MC, BWL and a little of AQ. But never in a guild who farmed AQ or NAXX. Still it was interesting back then. You had to get some blue and green gear to enter raids. Today epics are everywhere.
Downing a raid boss back then was something. Today is an additional couple of epics.
And dont start telling me about achievements!
Anyway, this is my opinion and the reason I quit WoW. I just got bored of farming instances without a challenge.
Yeah, I'm sure you just breezed through Yogg with 0 keepers and 10man Sarth+3d, right?
Are you serious dude? I mean...ok now instead of epics being what denotes you as wtf amazing, it's an achievement, which usually comes with a very cool extremely rare mount+a title.Anyone who plays WoW automatically knows you cleared naxx 25 without a single wipe when you have the Immortal Title.
And to your ''back in they day downing a boss meant something''. Alright, now it's downing a boss in hard mode means something. Same shit.
Basicly, nothing has changed since vanilla besides the fact that they managed to trick casuals into thinking they're l33t. The ''hardcore'' still have better gear/more achievs/more mounts/titles whatever.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17779800832&sid=1&pageNo=1
The OP just doesn't get it!
While WotLK quests are really fun and the story is good overall they are very easy. Most 3man group quests are soloable (why the hell are they grp q). Same applies to the oldworld quests and mobs nowadays (after old world nerf).
Its just plain boring leveling. Reducint the XP required to lvl or allowing mounts to low lvls are good moves but making everything easy is not. No one is grouping for quests and even instance groups are rare (before the wotlK areas at least).
Its sad
That's true. But they have no choice...the primary demographic playing this game are the 12-15s, they outnumber the 18+ demo 2 to 1. They have to make a lot of the game lolzorzizarzl33t easy.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=17779800832&sid=1&pageNo=1
The OP just doesn't get it!
If quests for first 10~ levels were easy, that'd be no problemo, but after that they should start getting increasingly more difficult (while being relative to your 'skills' (real skills!) of course, so that you wouldn't end up in a dead end at any point, although you might have to repeat some quests few times *gasp*). Keep it casual at the same time though, and I mean the "doesn't take long to do shit"-casual and not the easymode-casual, /grin.
This dead horse has already been beaten to the point where the body was ground into dust.
If you've even remotely kept up with WoW, then you know which direction the game is going in and has been going in for a long time now. There is not point in complaining anymore. That's just how it's going to be and there's nothing you can do about it.
Yes, I used to be a hardcore raider. (7th world wide kill of Kel'thuzad in Naxxramas 1.0, which was an insanely tough and time consuming instance) I've already accepted that a long time ago. If I decide to renew my WoW account, then I do it with an understanding of what to expect in terms of what the game offers now. I would play it leisurely to casually enjoy the content and finish a full weeks worth of raiding in one to two days max.
You can't really blame Blizzard. It's not like they expected the game to become a pop culture phenomenon. I would be doing exactly what they were doing if I were in their position. They're going to become a development powerhouse the likes of which has never been seen before. They have FOUR (rumored to be 5) TRIPLE A GAMES currently in development thanks to their expansion with the resources gained by WoW in addition to the team updating WoW with content AND currently developing Battle.net 2.0 as well as expanding their online community platform with interconnectivity. Let's not forget they also upgraded their studio. You're damn right they're going to cater towards the majority. They're going to make things deep enough for the hardcore but accessible enough for the casual majority. You can't even say for a second you wouldn't do the same.
I support what they're doing for the sake of PC gaming alone.
That's why you hire a chinese dude to powerlevel you to 80 ;P. Takes about 3 weeks for them!
Seriously though, it is pretty ridiculous that leveling to 80, especially everything pre-expansions, is so mundane.
i played EQ for 3 years only hitting the level cap briefly before PoP raised it again, and I wouldn't trade those years for anything. I made a wizard in 1999, didn't hit 65 until 03, and loved every bit of it (well mostly ^.^). It's not like I was just grinding the whole time or leveling alts either, I was taking my time and enjoying the game
End game focused MMOs like WoW only mean that the game itself is too easy. When everyone and anyone who logs on can easily hit max level, then it's only a matter of time until every level below max is just a waste of time.
Even today I always get bored with MMOs when I hit max level, probably why I'm playing EVE now
and looking at L2 even though it's been out for 5 years lol.
"Good? Bad? I'm the guy with the gun."
World of Deathknightcraft blows. Enough said.
/move on.
mmorpg's flop faster then mcdonalds cheese burgers these days.
That's why you hire a chinese dude to powerlevel you to 80 ;P. Takes about 3 weeks for them!
Seriously though, it is pretty ridiculous that leveling to 80, especially everything pre-expansions, is so mundane.
i played EQ for 3 years only hitting the level cap briefly before PoP raised it again, and I wouldn't trade those years for anything. I made a wizard in 1999, didn't hit 65 until 03, and loved every bit of it (well mostly ^.^). It's not like I was just grinding the whole time or leveling alts either, I was taking my time and enjoying the game
End game focused MMOs like WoW only mean that the game itself is too easy. When everyone and anyone who logs on can easily hit max level, then it's only a matter of time until every level below max is just a waste of time.
Even today I always get bored with MMOs when I hit max level, probably why I'm playing EVE now
and looking at L2 even though it's been out for 5 years lol.
I wish I would've gotten into EQ back in the days, I think I missed that boat just got EQ a day ago haha (was $5 so I figured why not buy it)
Anyway on the topic of WoW It's very boring once you get to 80, Got my orc shaman to 80, grinded heroics for gear for naxx, did naxx like 4 times and that's when I couldn't stand the boredom anymore.
oh and yeah i was in all epics cept like a blue trinket or something Epics are super easy to come by in WoTLK as stated a couple times in this thread.
Because it makes the l33t 1%ers sad pandas.
It also gives all those casuals a sense of being uber when they are not. Most of the casual raid guilds that exist now would all FAIL miserably and disband raiding vanilla wow...because most of them (or their players) didn't exist back then.
ProTip for all people currenty raiding post-Vanilla raid content: No such thing as epic or earned gear anymore, purple is the new blue. You are not uber.
That's true. But they have no choice...the primary demographic playing this game are the 12-15s, they outnumber the 18+ demo 2 to 1. They have to make a lot of the game lolzorzizarzl33t easy.
Sigh .. do you have to LIE? Don't put up things as facts if you don't know. Here is a link:
http://www.nickyee.com/daedalus/gateway_demographics.html
And I quote:
"The truth is that the average age of MMORPG players is around 26. In fact, only 25% of MMORPG players are teenagers. About 50% of MMORPG players work full-time. About 36% of players are married, and 22% have children. So the MMORPG demographic is fairly diverse, including high-school students, college students, early professionals, middle-aged home-makers, as well as retirees"