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Dont waste your time on the "free" 14 days

Just went back for the "relaunch" and not much has changed.

Combat is still waaaay out of wack.  The community is nothing but a bunch of bloodthirsty gankers straight out of 4chan.  As soon as invuln wears off expect to have 3 people attacking you.  Class balance is laughable.  Class population is currently 33% Necro, 33% ranger, 33% everything else.  Can you guess what the fotm classes are??

Casters just circle strafe and bunny hop non stop and its impossible to land a hit on them melee (and even if you did melee dmg is nowhere near where it should be), until their root is up.  Then they just root you, run behind you, and you die.  Thats melee combat in a nutshell.  Necros dont even have to root you because their 10 pets just surround you and you cant move anyways. I love a hardcore PvP ruleset as much as the next guy, but this games mechanics are just crap.

Oh by the way, they are charging your credit card when you register to go back for the "free" 14 days so its actually a month and 14 days for $12, not free.`

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  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Member RarePosts: 3,655
    Originally posted by iluvVG


    Just went back for the "relaunch" and not much has changed.
    Combat is still waaaay out of wack.  The community is nothing but a bunch of bloodthirsty gankers straight out of 4chan.  As soon as invuln wears off expect to have 3 people attacking you.  Class balance is laughable.  Class population is currently 33% Necro, 33% ranger, 33% everything else.  Can you guess what the fotm classes are??
    Casters just circle strafe and bunny hop non stop and its impossible to land a hit on them melee (and even if you did melee dmg is nowhere near where it should be), until their root is up.  Then they just root you, run behind you, and you die.  Thats melee combat in a nutshell.  Necros dont even have to root you because their 10 pets just surround you and you cant move anyways. I love a hardcore PvP ruleset as much as the next guy, but this games mechanics are just crap.
    Oh by the way, they are charging your credit card when you register to go back for the "free" 14 days so its actually a month and 14 days for $12, not free.`

     

    Couldn't you just cancel the charge?   I mean are they making you pay the instant you register or is it like if you don't cancel before the 14 days are up you get charged for the next month?

     

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  • gamerman98gamerman98 Member UncommonPosts: 809


    Originally posted by Laughing-man
    Originally posted by iluvVG Just went back for the "relaunch" and not much has changed.
    Combat is still waaaay out of wack.  The community is nothing but a bunch of bloodthirsty gankers straight out of 4chan.  As soon as invuln wears off expect to have 3 people attacking you.  Class balance is laughable.  Class population is currently 33% Necro, 33% ranger, 33% everything else.  Can you guess what the fotm classes are??
    Casters just circle strafe and bunny hop non stop and its impossible to land a hit on them melee (and even if you did melee dmg is nowhere near where it should be), until their root is up.  Then they just root you, run behind you, and you die.  Thats melee combat in a nutshell.  Necros dont even have to root you because their 10 pets just surround you and you cant move anyways. I love a hardcore PvP ruleset as much as the next guy, but this games mechanics are just crap.
    Oh by the way, they are charging your credit card when you register to go back for the "free" 14 days so its actually a month and 14 days for $12, not free.`
     
    Couldn't you just cancel the charge?   I mean are they making you pay the instant you register or is it like if you don't cancel before the 14 days are up you get charged for the next month?
     


    no its free...I came back and don't even have a CC on my account so that after the 14 days it just goes back to what it was before i came back. They wont charge you unless you accept a payment plan to go with the re-activation.

  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Member RarePosts: 3,655
    Originally posted by gamerman98
    no its free...I came back and don't even have a CC on my account so that after the 14 days it just goes back to what it was before i came back. They wont charge you unless you accept a payment plan to go with the re-activation.

     

    So the OP is mistaken?  Gotcha.

     

  • OldAgeJunkieOldAgeJunkie Member Posts: 207

    Well if they are saying its free but making you sub for a month then you know they are doing that intentional to get money out of people. That's really lame and shady to the highest degree. You are right about melee not being able to kill casters, melee has to perform certain combo's in order to execute them and casters don't have to do crap but bunny hop free casting at you. I swear just let this game die already its already on its way out the door there is no way of resurrecting it by any means.

     

    RIP

     

    /edit I won't be coming back until you change the UI, melee combat and add more content that is fun and has a meaning to it.

    mmorpg's flop faster then mcdonalds cheese burgers these days.

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  • KoukikidKoukikid Member Posts: 28

    Yes that is the problem here.... Funcom never tells you that you will be instantly charged $12 when you do the special upgrade package. When they should charge you after your free 14 days are up. Once again Funcom making a dirty dollar

  • OldAgeJunkieOldAgeJunkie Member Posts: 207
    Originally posted by templarga

    Originally posted by OldAgeJunkie


    Well if they are saying its free but making you sub for a month then you know they are doing that intentional to get money out of people. That's really lame and shady to the highest degree. You are right about melee not being able to kill casters, melee has to perform certain combo's in order to execute them and casters don't have to do crap but bunny hop free casting at you. I swear just let this game die already its already on its way out the door there is no way of resurrecting it by any means.
     
    RIP
     
    /edit I won't be coming back until you change the UI, melee combat and add more content that is fun and has a meaning to it.

    You have the OPTION to resub but do not have too. If you do, its at a discount.

    Gotchya. Didn't see it until after I posted. :)

    mmorpg's flop faster then mcdonalds cheese burgers these days.

  • AmazingAveryAmazingAvery Age of Conan AdvocateMember UncommonPosts: 7,188
    Originally posted by OldAgeJunkie

    Originally posted by templarga

    Originally posted by OldAgeJunkie


    Well if they are saying its free but making you sub for a month then you know they are doing that intentional to get money out of people. That's really lame and shady to the highest degree. You are right about melee not being able to kill casters, melee has to perform certain combo's in order to execute them and casters don't have to do crap but bunny hop free casting at you. I swear just let this game die already its already on its way out the door there is no way of resurrecting it by any means.
     
    RIP
     
    /edit I won't be coming back until you change the UI, melee combat and add more content that is fun and has a meaning to it.

    You have the OPTION to resub but do not have too. If you do, its at a discount.

    Gotchya. Didn't see it until after I posted. :)



     

    Course it is ok to have strong feeling either way, but I will say those three things have changed.

    UI. Stats, mini game changes, guild changes and more

    Melee, class rebalance changed a lot of things, combo's shorter and more

    Content: see the review from TenTonHammer new post up under this one. - "In fact, over 1000 changes have been done since launch. But has it paid off? Many new players are still making their way into the game, and AoC forums everywhere have changed from the bitter and angry to a more pleasant, upbeat, and satisfied crowd."

     

    To take a look for free is but a little bit of your time, therefore a better informed decision can be made and at the end of the day whether your happy or not is what counts, and that is whether you like it or not.



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  • iluvVGiluvVG Member Posts: 77
    Originally posted by AmazingAvery


     
    Course it is ok to have strong feeling either way, but I will say those three things have changed.
    UI. Stats, mini game changes, guild changes and more
    Melee, class rebalance changed a lot of things, combo's shorter and more
    Content: see the review from TenTonHammer new post up under this one. - "In fact, over 1000 changes have been done since launch. But has it paid off? Many new players are still making their way into the game, and AoC forums everywhere have changed from the bitter and angry to a more pleasant, upbeat, and satisfied crowd."

     
    To take a look for free is but a little bit of your time, therefore a better informed decision can be made and at the end of the day whether your happy or not is what counts, and that is whether you like it or not.

     

    Avery, I know its your job to blindly promote the game and stuff, but do you really think anyone buys anything that comes out of your or Funcoms mouth anymore?  You are honestly saying that casters have NO advantage over a melee player?

    1000 changes dont mean jack if the gameplay still sucks.  And last time I checked, the forums were basically an internet riot over the 1.05 patch. 

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  • NizurNizur Member CommonPosts: 1,417


    Originally posted by templarga
    Where do you think flavor of the month came from?

    Baskin Robbins?

    Current: None
    Played: WoW, CoX, SWG, LotRO, EVE, AoC, VG, CO, Ryzom, DF, WAR
    Tried: Lineage2, Dofus, EQ2, CoS, FE, UO, Wurm, Wakfu
    Future: The Repopulation, ArcheAge, Black Desert, EQN

  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Member RarePosts: 3,655
    Originally posted by menoco 
    Once again you provide us a perfect example of your mental handicap abilities. Those companies do not charge you and they say "oh here is your free game time oh and that month we charged you without telling you before hand oops." And if you mess up your CC with a typo they freeze your FREEE 14 days for hours till they fix it on their end.... I think you need to stop gurgling Funcoms gravy.

     

     

    I generally find its a good idea to read everything on a page before I enter in my credit card information.

    If you failed to do so that would be on you sir.

    I'm sorry but everyone else here seems to not have any issues with their reading skills so I'm going to assume that its just you.

  • iluvVGiluvVG Member Posts: 77
    Originally posted by templarga

    Originally posted by iluvVG

    Originally posted by AmazingAvery


     
    Course it is ok to have strong feeling either way, but I will say those three things have changed.
    UI. Stats, mini game changes, guild changes and more
    Melee, class rebalance changed a lot of things, combo's shorter and more
    Content: see the review from TenTonHammer new post up under this one. - "In fact, over 1000 changes have been done since launch. But has it paid off? Many new players are still making their way into the game, and AoC forums everywhere have changed from the bitter and angry to a more pleasant, upbeat, and satisfied crowd."

     
    To take a look for free is but a little bit of your time, therefore a better informed decision can be made and at the end of the day whether your happy or not is what counts, and that is whether you like it or not.

     

    Avery, I know its your job to blindly promote the game and stuff, but do you really think anyone buys anything that comes out of your or Funcoms mouth anymore?  You are honestly saying that casters have NO advantage over a melee player?

    1000 changes dont mean jack if the gameplay still sucks.  And last time I checked, the forums were basically an internet riot over the 1.05 patch. 

    The reason the forums are in a riot is because the changes brought so much needed balance to SOME classes.

    Now class balance isn't something you wave a magic wand over and its suddenly fixed. It has to be done in stages because when you change one thing, it changes more things.

    The people who are upset over 1.5 are upset because of the changes. Casters are obviously over-powered right now. I expect them to be the next major class balancing goal.

    It is par for the course though. Age of Conan is not the first MMO that has major issues with class balance and it won't be the last. However when you balance classes, it makes everyone made because half of the classes remain OP while the other half are weak (i.e. balanced). Of course those players who were balanced are now angry and scream about it.

    trust me, I played DAOC and this was a monthly thing with Mythic. Where do you think flavor of the month came from?

     

    Thats exactly my point.  Just saying what Avery posted couldnt be further from the truth.

    The game has been out for a year and class balance is almost worse than it was when the majority of the people started to quit.  In class based games it almost impossible for all of them to be perfectly balanced, but they are moving in the opposite direction with the exception that people dont get one shot anymore.

    Same crap, different day.

  • KoukikidKoukikid Member Posts: 28

    It just blows my mind that this game has been out for a year and they can't BALANCE CLASSES in a PVP game. FFS they didn't even add in new classes cuz if they did then i could see their class unbalancing issues. But to have the same classes for a year and not even be close to balanced..... pathetic

    Call me crazy but i think that is a little important fix

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  • KoukikidKoukikid Member Posts: 28
    Originally posted by Laughing-man

    Originally posted by menoco 
    Once again you provide us a perfect example of your mental handicap abilities. Those companies do not charge you and they say "oh here is your free game time oh and that month we charged you without telling you before hand oops." And if you mess up your CC with a typo they freeze your FREEE 14 days for hours till they fix it on their end.... I think you need to stop gurgling Funcoms gravy.

     

     

    I generally find its a good idea to read everything on a page before I enter in my credit card information.

    If you failed to do so that would be on you sir.

    I'm sorry but everyone else here seems to not have any issues with their reading skills so I'm going to assume that its just you.



     

    Please englighten me with a quote or link from funcom that states that you will be instantly charged when you set up a subscription plan when you have a free 14 days. If you give me proof then i am in the wrong.

  • iluvVGiluvVG Member Posts: 77

    Well, that end might come too late.  AoC does have competitors, and I am just shocked that they feel like this is the point at which they needed to relaunch the game.

    Their subs are on a downward spiral, and this is the last shot for a lot of veterans.  I know that I probably wont ever give the game a third look.  If this is all they have accomplished i a year, maybe they will finally get it right by 2012 when the world ends.

  • AmazingAveryAmazingAvery Age of Conan AdvocateMember UncommonPosts: 7,188
    Originally posted by iluvVG

    Originally posted by templarga

    Originally posted by iluvVG

    Originally posted by AmazingAvery


     
    Course it is ok to have strong feeling either way, but I will say those three things have changed.
    UI. Stats, mini game changes, guild changes and more
    Melee, class rebalance changed a lot of things, combo's shorter and more
    Content: see the review from TenTonHammer new post up under this one. - "In fact, over 1000 changes have been done since launch. But has it paid off? Many new players are still making their way into the game, and AoC forums everywhere have changed from the bitter and angry to a more pleasant, upbeat, and satisfied crowd."

     
    To take a look for free is but a little bit of your time, therefore a better informed decision can be made and at the end of the day whether your happy or not is what counts, and that is whether you like it or not.

     

    Avery, I know its your job to blindly promote the game and stuff, but do you really think anyone buys anything that comes out of your or Funcoms mouth anymore?  You are honestly saying that casters have NO advantage over a melee player?

    1000 changes dont mean jack if the gameplay still sucks.  And last time I checked, the forums were basically an internet riot over the 1.05 patch. 

    The reason the forums are in a riot is because the changes brought so much needed balance to SOME classes.

    Now class balance isn't something you wave a magic wand over and its suddenly fixed. It has to be done in stages because when you change one thing, it changes more things.

    The people who are upset over 1.5 are upset because of the changes. Casters are obviously over-powered right now. I expect them to be the next major class balancing goal.

    It is par for the course though. Age of Conan is not the first MMO that has major issues with class balance and it won't be the last. However when you balance classes, it makes everyone made because half of the classes remain OP while the other half are weak (i.e. balanced). Of course those players who were balanced are now angry and scream about it.

    trust me, I played DAOC and this was a monthly thing with Mythic. Where do you think flavor of the month came from?

     

    Thats exactly my point.  Just saying what Avery posted couldnt be further from the truth.

    The game has been out for a year and class balance is almost worse than it was when the majority of the people started to quit.  In class based games it almost impossible for all of them to be perfectly balanced, but they are moving in the opposite direction with the exception that people dont get one shot anymore.

    Same crap, different day.



     

    You basing the balance question on how long? I think that AoC has it's fair share of being Skill based. Gear Stats in AoC are not everything. Classes are quite varied and different in some cases. Patch 1.05 changed a lot of stuff, as Class Advocate we see many pro's and con's and discussions in this very specifc area. Just my interpretation is that overall out of all classes there seems to be a better general vibe, this is not knocking the work or ignoring the work that is needed further, as being honest there is still a ways to go.

    If I am new to the game or revisiting the game from last playing 10months ago I would be a betting man in that there has been change. Patch notes are a testament to this. I am not saying things are perfect so please don't take out of context. But c'mon like I said Class Balance changed a lot of things. Right around the corner is a fix for the most popular issues. As in next week.



  • Brianadams73Brianadams73 Member Posts: 7

    AoC has improved dramatically! it seems that this is not the game for you but for those who did like it and thought that it had potential at launch come back and try it again do the 14 day trial thing and give it a shot

     

  • NadrilNadril Member Posts: 1,276

    After playing this revaluation I have to say it's still just as terrible as ever. So I do agree with the OP in saying that it isn't even worth wasting any time on this.

  • iluvVGiluvVG Member Posts: 77
    Originally posted by AmazingAvery



    You basing the balance question on how long? I think that AoC has it's fair share of being Skill based. Gear Stats in AoC are not everything. Classes are quite varied and different in some cases. Patch 1.05 changed a lot of stuff, as Class Advocate we see many pro's and con's and discussions in this very specifc area. Just my interpretation is that overall out of all classes there seems to be a better general vibe, this is not knocking the work or ignoring the work that is needed further, as being honest there is still a ways to go.
    If I am new to the game or revisiting the game from last playing 10months ago I would be a betting man in that there has been change. Patch notes are a testament to this. I am not saying things are perfect so please don't take out of context. But c'mon like I said Class Balance changed a lot of things. Right around the corner is a fix for the most popular issues. As in next week.

     

    Skill based in that a melee class has to fire off a 1-3 chain combo, and hit with every step of the combo (on a moving target) to get full potential out of my combo, while a caster has a locked target and can just spam click abilities?  It a fundamentally flawed system that will never be balanced unless they cut the damage of casters in half with as much CC as they have.  You cant even talk about player skill unless balance is perfect, because if not, class advantage always comes into play. 

    I'm not saying that there hasnt been change, but that doesnt mean the change has been for the better.  I found myself having less fun in game that I did at launch.  Maybe next week that will change, but then why not relaunch next week?

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  • vinzonevinzone Member UncommonPosts: 255
    Originally posted by templarga

    Originally posted by menoco

    Originally posted by Laughing-man

    Originally posted by menoco 



     

    Please englighten me with a quote or link from funcom that states that you will be instantly charged when you set up a subscription plan when you have a free 14 days. If you give me proof then i am in the wrong.

    It should be obvious.

    Did you check to see if they are going to attach the 14 days to the END of your billing cycle?

    EDIT: I just checked and YES it is added to the end of your subscription cycle. In other words, you will be billed again in 6 weeks and not 4 if you setup the 1 month plan.

    No company in the right mind will give you 2 weeks and then bill you. YOU setup a sub plan so you will be billed then. Otherwise, why the hell did you put in your CC info?

    LMAO, honestly what company in their right mind charges someone after they enter their cc info and sign up for a subscription plan, naughty naughty Funcom... Anyway I signed up for the 14 day comeback and didn't get charged even tho my account already had cc info saved, I don't see where people are having a problem... Reading problem perhaps?

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