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Please think about it before you pay them.
humwha
Member Posts: 38
I know you all are itching for pvp that has meaning ganking and a good time basicly a old UO in 3d but please think about it before you give them money, war,aoc, df, soon aion. All gave fleeting hope but turned out bad i know your all begging for a decent mmo like me but...
Dont pay 100 bucks before any reviews please, your just asking for more people to do this.
i don't want imitators throwing up half baked ideas for cash, im not saying this is one but when you pay people for half a service thats all you start to get half services.
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The game will cost around $40.
What are you talking about?
If you are talking about the boxed versions, they were requested by the public and only 10,000 were made, so they are considered limited edition collector's items, so why would they be any cheaper than they are?
So people actually buy them? Seems there are still 5k to be sold.
Lol, hmm did you (or any1 else) buy Darfall @ $100? No, cuz thay had DD only which was/is more expensive than MO's DD will be. So, please read and learn before making that dumb posts...
I already bought my LE. Why would I think about anything else? I also bought Darkfall which I stopped playing after a couple of weeks because I got TOTALbored with it. Now, I wait one week too see hoe MO is, which there is no doubt would be better than DFO.
So, if you cant afford it, just stop whine about it and wait for the DD or something...
From the way SV has explained it the sound of it is that they could make UP TO 10,000 boxxed units (Seeing as the community requested they release boxxed copies its more of LE and LE-lite).
Was better explained here:
www.mortalonline.com/forums/16713-why-you-shouldnt-angry-starvault-prices.html
So I wouldnt be surprised if not all of the boxxes get sold. Digital Download is supposed to be much cheaper so wait till the 20th. I do understand how people say its really expensive (Specially EU) so I actually would agree with the OP to some extent.
Think carefully before you spend your money, wait for DD or maybe even wait till launch if your not absoluetely certain.
This is the last attempt I'll try to make sense with.
If your gonna buy a car you don' t buy it with out driving it ,
but this isn't even that far it's like buying it still being designed in the factory.
Or if the sales men goes "sure u can test drive it just buy it first"
this isn't a known company like blizzard Sony ea , it's a no name
company ur throwing money at. You don't need to put ur selves in that
kind of position.
But it's ur right to do that and I hope you the best.
There are some exotic car brands that sell out the whole planned production before an upcoming model has ever been tested
Apart from that ... I personally love to support an indy developer which has done so much effort to get their concept and ideas JUST right (for me personally that is). Whether the investment will be a sound one remains to be seen. But in theory, MO will be just my cup of tea.
My brand new bloggity blog.
considering i know and talk to the devs i will trust them
I have to be to work in 50 min. I expect you to not be late.
You only get a half hour for lunch; no more, no less.
I figure if you're telling me how to spend my money you should at least do my job for me.
That make enough sense?
If you don't want to spend the money don't.
I compleatly cannot agree with OP. That way we will be doomed to play typical commercial craps.
I can recommend to take a deep look at the official forums, see what is the general idea about the game. If you like it go buy the game and support it. It will not be perfect at first but can turn into briliant game if have enought support from playerbase...
Just be sure that its a game you want to play.
Where themepark games try to hide that they are copying WOW, games like Mortal Online and Darkfall make no attempt to hide their inspiration
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I have to be to work in 50 min. I expect you to not be late.
You only get a half hour for lunch; no more, no less.
I figure if you're telling me how to spend my money you should at least do my job for me.
That make enough sense?
If you don't want to spend the money don't.
Exactly his analogy is pretty flawed, a better analogy would be, you go to a private car manufactereur who gives you the specs for a really nice exotic car custom made, they havent done any complete cars, but they ordered a custom v8 engine from mercedes (Unreal engine 3) and they reckon that their car will be quality/BHP wise nearly as good as a Ferrari Enzo.
Now they are only making 1000 of these cars to sell to the public, possibly producing more if they are successfull at a later date, you are looking to buy an exotic car instead of the commercial cars everyone has, YOU KNOW its not a Ferrari Enzo, you know they are starting up with this one car, and that the engine is made by mercedes which is a reliable brand, you either pay in and pre-order this car, if you think the risk is worth it and if you think they will pull it off, if they do the car will probably be worth 3 times more than the price you paid for it, OR you can just not pay and wait for the first car to be completed and tested and then if they continue production and their product is actually good you put an order on a future model.
Edit: Now continueing my analogy I dont think the exotic car will be as good as a Ferrari Enzo, it will most likely fall a bit short but it will be very close, it will still be a super car and alot better than driving around on a Vauxhall Corsa (WoW) like everyone else :P.
Not that there is anything wrong with WoW i enjoyed it quite alot, im just tired of driving around in a Corsa.
EDIT2:
This is not to say I dont think the boxed version was overly expensive, personally I did not buy it, not because I cannot afford it, but because after doing a small risk assessment it was just not worth the 65 pounds or 80 pounds for a LE, but this goes from person to person, bottom line is you can make an informed decision, if people think its worth it then there is nothing wrong in investing the money, they have been pretty clear on what you are buying and the conditions attached.
Wow, its actually startling to see the patrons of MMORPG.com actually defending Indie work for a price higher than normal..
I WOULD have bought it, but seeing as I am still skeptical and I actually liked darkfall (payed for NA release for better pings), I decided to stick with DF until the DD comes out..
It may not have been sold for higher for higher prices by AV (they decided not to make and sell a boxed version obviously), but new accounts were sold on places like E-Bay for prices much higher than the download price (people were playing the F5 lottery, getting the accounts and turning them around to make a profit on E-bay). I saw some being bidded on for $100+ a pop on E-bay when the game was first being released in limited quantities. So yeah, some people did buy DF at $100 or more.
I did think about it...
For nearly 4 months.
I thought about it before the store went online and had my limit on how much I would spend on a collector's edition of a game.
*shrug*
At worst I donated ~~$100 to a group I believe is deeply committed to their project. Just based on what I have seen, i'll be genuinely surprised if something goes severely wrong.
Sounds like somebody drank a tall glass of hateraid. I agreed with you until you said "soon Aion." Aion will not fail for 3 major reasons.
1) They already have over 3 million subscribers in the eastern market. That alone will keep the game sucessful.
2) It is already get great reviews from the beta stages, and that is the complete opposite of the other games you listed.
3) Many people want to experience something new and exciting, but with out the difficult learning curve transition. Many wow players can step right into this with their eyes closed.
** Many people aren't giving these Indy companies enough credit for "breaking the mold." Games like DF & MO aren't going to be flawless at release, but these are games that they can't just copy like other companies do with the current cookie cutter MMO's. There is a die hard PvP player base that will support games like this, and far down the road somebody will get the formula right and the game will be vastly popular. Until that happens all PvP fans should shut up and provide some insight to make the games and industry better.
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"Hey, I'll tell you what. You can get a good look at a butcher's azz by sticking your head up there. But, wouldn't you rather to take his word for it?" - Tommy Boy
Have you ever bought a house? Or an appartment and it wasn't done ?
Heck maybe you didn't even owned the land yet. You know how many people do that? ALOT.
My mom did it with 2 of her appartment and 2 houses and 2 years ago I did it with my very own house.
Now it's not 100$, it's not a 30k car it's a 170k investment that I didn't even SEE beforehand but you know what? In the end it was worth every, single, penny.
I wasn't sure about MO honestly I thought it was really expensive, I thought about it for a day and decided to pull the trigger yesterday before going to bed (block a w00t). The reason why I did it, I beleive in their vision like I beleived in my own vision whith my house.
Can you be wrong? Of course, but without risk there's never any reward.
But you can not play "ideas" online. I have seen so many games the last years where the ideas sounded like heaven on earth while not even hell was delivered (reffering the hell in Hellgate London).
I don't see why people are doomed without trying before buying, even indy developers have investors, so a pre-payment or payed beta from future customers is not needed.
Remember the times when betas were free because of the fact that they used unpaid volunteers to test their game?
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So it can turn in to a brilliant game...I have heard that so many times. It really boils down to person's gullibility, if he wants to buy something only because of it's potential. People invest on pyramid schemes and other scams for this very reason. Looking at the MMORPG as a genre, your safe bet is always to wait for the release. If developers really wanted support from the player base, they could ask for investments.
There are players who would be able to invest in these type of ventures. What they doing now, instead, is taking an advantage of consumers who simply do not know any better at the moment. Company is relying on your emotions rather than rational to guide the buying decision. And there is no short supply of consumers who let their emotions guide decisions rather than rational, most of us have been guilty of it at some point in our life. That does not make it a sensible thing to do and that one should not learn from experience.
I have been interested in this title and followed the progress they have made. However, when I saw the prices and read the agreement you make when you purchase, alarms instantly went off in my head.
About the moral of the story enjoy the following:
The Emperor's New Clothes
"The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in."
The difference is the 'test drive' in case of buying a real estate would be troublesome. While byuing a car, it is easily provided service. If you don't provide that service, I have to ask what are your guaranties?
Buying a house without even seeing it? Don't be ridiculuous...
Risking is one thing, being stupid another.
No need to say more.Perfect.
No need to say more.Perfect.
I'll only make one attempt to explain it.
This is a $75-$100.00 "investment" in the game in the hopes the company can keep afloat long enough to deliver the game at the quality level it needs to be. (assuming one really would like to see the game succeed).
For many folks, they could set that amount of money on fire in an ashtray and not really care. I have friends who start their slot machine runs by putting 100.00 in the machine with plans to blow a grand if necessary. And they go back again.
So call it a gamble, call it an investment, if you'd like to support Starvault and help them succeed, feel free to do so.
If not, stay the heck away and wait for cheaper pre-orders or do what I'll do, wait until it releases and see what comes out.
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No need to say more.Perfect.
I'll only make one attempt to explain it.
This is a $75-$100.00 "investment" in the game in the hopes the company can keep afloat long enough to deliver the game at the quality level it needs to be. (assuming one really would like to see the game succeed).
For many folks, they could set that amount of money on fire in an ashtray and not really care. I have friends who start their slot machine runs by putting 100.00 in the machine with plans to blow a grand if necessary. And they go back again.
So call it a gamble, call it an investment, if you'd like to support Starvault and help them succeed, feel free to do so.
If not, stay the heck away and wait for cheaper pre-orders or do what I'll do, wait until it releases and see what comes out.
Finally some sense in these forums!
I have to be to work in 50 min. I expect you to not be late.
You only get a half hour for lunch; no more, no less.
I figure if you're telling me how to spend my money you should at least do my job for me.
That make enough sense?
If you don't want to spend the money don't.
Exactly his analogy is pretty flawed, a better analogy would be, you go to a private car manufactereur who gives you the specs for a really nice exotic car custom made, they havent done any complete cars, but they ordered a custom v8 engine from mercedes (Unreal engine 3) and they reckon that their car will be quality/BHP wise nearly as good as a Ferrari Enzo.
Now they are only making 1000 of these cars to sell to the public, possibly producing more if they are successfull at a later date, you are looking to buy an exotic car instead of the commercial cars everyone has, YOU KNOW its not a Ferrari Enzo, you know they are starting up with this one car, and that the engine is made by mercedes which is a reliable brand, you either pay in and pre-order this car, if you think the risk is worth it and if you think they will pull it off, if they do the car will probably be worth 3 times more than the price you paid for it, OR you can just not pay and wait for the first car to be completed and tested and then if they continue production and their product is actually good you put an order on a future model.
Edit: Now continueing my analogy I dont think the exotic car will be as good as a Ferrari Enzo, it will most likely fall a bit short but it will be very close, it will still be a super car and alot better than driving around on a Vauxhall Corsa (WoW) like everyone else :P.
Not that there is anything wrong with WoW i enjoyed it quite alot, im just tired of driving around in a Corsa.
EDIT2:
This is not to say I dont think the boxed version was overly expensive, personally I did not buy it, not because I cannot afford it, but because after doing a small risk assessment it was just not worth the 65 pounds or 80 pounds for a LE, but this goes from person to person, bottom line is you can make an informed decision, if people think its worth it then there is nothing wrong in investing the money, they have been pretty clear on what you are buying and the conditions attached.
You're analogy happens though.
Some concept cars get sold to collectors. Sometimes at auction or in a very limitted number.
Ferrari has put out cars in very limitted numbers as well for sale, the F250 I believe it was, only 200 made. Those cars aren't shipped to showrooms, they are sold directly from the production line to the person buying them. Things like this tend to cost in the millions though.
Motorcycles are known for doing it as well.
Eastcost Choppers? People pay for a bike that isn't even built yet. There is no test drive.
But wait!
I baught a motorcycle. I didn't get to test drive it. I went to the bike shop, walked with a salesman who showed me a few bikes along the lines of what I was looking for, and then I selttled on the one I wanted. I didn't get to take it for a cruise around the block. In fact, I didn't get to hear how it sound until they were loading into the back of my boys truck.
All those are really bad analogies. People should avoid them, if they can't hit the mark.
"The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in."