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75$ U.S. for a non collectors?? are you kidding me?? LMAO

deleted_01deleted_01 Member Posts: 10

Title says it all

I just got my Aion collectors and it cost me 60$ U.S., for that I am garenteed to play ever beta event, and get ingame items at release.

Now for every mmo that I have ever got and was not able to get a collectors they have all gone for 40$ and the collectors have ranged from 60$ to 80$ and most all where packed with stuff including ingame items that where always unique to the collectors addition.

Now lets look at this for your 75$ you are not even garenteed that you will have playing time from now till release it could take months till you get in, and all you get is a regular addition shiped out to you well who knows when it will be shiped.

Now what if I have to have a collectors addition as i am just that guy who has to have it and will not cring at the 100 to 120$ U.S.  price tag of it( sorry their was not a conversion to U.S. as you could not order it.)  I have to play a guessing game as to when I can order it? I get two ( from the looks of them) little warhammer like figures? a bag with leather draw strings and a art book?? no ingame items??? and as far as i seen it said you get a locked beat invite ok. when is that at just says you get a locked beta did not say you are the first to play your locked beta could be the last group in..

Do not get this thread wrong this not me QQing on the single topic of OMG 75$ /cry /cry /rage QQ on a form over price,

If they would have had collectors additions for sale and said you buy this and you download the client and bam you start playing right now I would be playing not posting..

That is not the case tho what I am getting at is compared to the market of mmo's for what you get for your money as almost a standard is not the case here and for them to come out and say you must buy this regular addition and have no solid answer as to when you will be able to play the game is well a plain joke.

To compare this to what the compition put out well darkfall you bought downloaded and played Q's and all a side, Aion you could buy the regular,collectors,box, addition's and you pay you download and play collectors garenteed to play no matter what.

Big diffrences I will wait for the collectors to become avalible before i buy and will only do that if they come out and say you will be the first to have the chance to play if you buy the collectors other wise will just wait for normal release and buy a cheaper download version.

I do not want this post as a stear clear post more of a informative post to hopefully help you decide on when you will be getting this game to play basied on what you well get  for your money.

 

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  • RavenRaven Member UncommonPosts: 2,005

    So your QQing because you dont get ingame items? You do know how gullible you make youself look like, you do know the collectors in game items are for the most part fluff and really completely useless 99% of the time?

    Anyway yes, it was a bit pricey this has been discussed in the other 3 threads why did you create a new one?

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  • NicksdNicksd Member Posts: 403

    Prices go up...

  • SamuraiswordSamuraisword Member Posts: 2,111

    Any MMOG that offers in-game rewards for out of game actions fails miserably.

    The Mortal Online developers understand the importance of earning everything in-game thru expended effort and they respect the virtual boundary of a virtual world unlike many other developers looking to make a quick buck.

    It defies the concept of a virtual world to get any in-game reward for preordering. buying collector's editions, participating at some fan fest, buying a gaming magazine, or some other silly cross promotion.

    I am very happy Mortal Online takes their virtual world seriously and was glad to pay $75 to preserve it's integrity.

     

     

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  • BeermanglerBeermangler Member UncommonPosts: 402

    "I do not want this post as a stear clear post"

    And that's why you chose such a neutral title. Figures.

    Better to be crazy, provided you know what sane is...

  • journey01journey01 Member Posts: 140
    Originally posted by Nicksd


    Prices go up...

     

    Actually, if you've been paying attention to the state of the economy, we've been in a period of deflation.

  • Vagrant_ZeroVagrant_Zero Member Posts: 1,190


    Originally posted by Samuraisword
    Any MMOG that offers in-game rewards for out of game actions fails miserably.
    The Mortal Online developers understand the importance of earning everything in-game thru expended effort and they respect the virtual boundary of a virtual world unlike many other developers looking to make a quick buck.
    It defies the concept of a virtual world to get any in-game reward for preordering. buying collector's editions, participating at some fan fest, buying a gaming magazine, or some other silly cross promotion.
    I am very happy Mortal Online takes their virtual world seriously and was glad to pay $75 to preserve it's integrity.
     
     

    You can spin and sugar coat it however you want but paying $75 when other games in that genre almost always sell for $50 or less just means you don't mind being reamed. And that's between you, your anus, and your God. Just don't go into shock if others don't follow suite.

  • Axllow18Axllow18 Member UncommonPosts: 400

    Digital Download will be cheaper, as in standard MMO cheap.

    If you don't like the price wait.

     

  • ElsaboltsElsabolts Member RarePosts: 3,476

    Man, ive read this some where can someone confirm this " Fools and there Money are soon seperated "

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  • KoreapsuKoreapsu Member Posts: 13

    I'll pay more for a tailor-made suit than I will for one off the rack.

    I'm buying it on the promise of something a bit different from all the others and based on the trust I have in the person making it.

     

    At this point I'm willing to extend a bit of trust to a bunch of people that seem to genuinely want to make a game I've been waiting for for years.   Yep I'm paying up front, and yes it could turn out bad.   In the end it's only $75, that's not even one night out.   With the amount of play time you get from the average MMO they have probably been underpriced for a long time.

     

  • nickelpatnickelpat Member Posts: 661
    Originally posted by Nicksd


    Prices go up...

     

    From 40 dollars average for a new PC game (50 on some) to 75? For one game? If I am correct for a developers first release?

    I think the price is horrible, although it really doesn't affect me as I'm not buying until someone else decides they 've wasted their money on it or love it for me. I also must agree with what a previous posted said, it's nice they maintain that boundary.

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  • SamuraiswordSamuraisword Member Posts: 2,111

    Based on some of the anal posts on this thread and elsewhere, crying about the price, I realize this will also keep the kiddies away which is a good thing. I expect the kiddies will play Aion or some other tripe. Good riddance.

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  • BureykuBureyku Member Posts: 488

    It's so high due to shipping.  Just wait for the digital version.  You don't seem like the type of person that has to play right now and pay 75$ for a boxed version.  I believe that the digital is going to be 50$ with direct download.

  • RavenRaven Member UncommonPosts: 2,005
    Originally posted by Elsabolts


    Man, ive read this some where can someone confirm this " Fools and there Money are soon seperated "

     

    "Fools and their money are soon parted".

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  • deleted_01deleted_01 Member Posts: 10

    You missed the point totaly yes a collectors in game is basickly fluff but if you have a game with staying power like a wow that fluff years later is kinda cool because now most people have moved on and its rare to now .

    The major point's are

    1. you can not buy a collectors you can only get a crap ass normal box.

    2. you are not garenteed a secure date to start your beta play, you could possibly pay the same price as joe and joe has been playing for 3months for his 75$ and you get 30 days.

    3. when a collectors comes out and you pay the extra money for it ( and you get the usal fluff that comes along with it that most  don't even keep 3months down the line that was probaly made by some exploited third world children in some sweat shop getting pennies per hour to work.)  you do not get special treatment for the extra funds you are not at the front of the list with garenteed spots to play from the moment the servers are ready to test nota, zipola, bubkas...

    LMAO at least with my darkfail account I turned around and sold the account for 10 times what I payed because of supply and demand  same premiss here limited accounts alot of people want them  but to turn around and say well out of 10,000 copies sold you are in a basickly a  loto roll to see when you will get into play ( come on hack roll) that is strait BS not even darkfail blew it that big in the beging ya you had que's but you where waiting to play your account right then and their you did not get a well bob is going to be in this month and well tome might get in the following month and hate to break it to you but you crapped out and rolled snake eye's so you get it 30days before release for the same price bob payed and has been playing for 5months and o ya billy the smart one waited to release so you got 30days on him but he payed about 50% less for the game then you did but hey you can always say your bought it first and you got that way cool normal ass box before him..

    thinking of another company's moto that fits right in here and get their speach from their offical forms and ingame CSR O YA thanks for playing warhammer we have your cash sucker not beat it.... 

  • HorkathaneHorkathane Member Posts: 380

     Yea I have to admit I was all excited until I hit that $54 Euros, wtf is that in $USD...$75?  Then everything went Ghetto

    Yo man, is you out of Yo mind Nerfer? Aint no way I'm payin $75 OompaLumping dollars on some crap I have not even played in beta and plus its a new IP? Get the paper Airplanes outta here Nerfer!

     

    I'll be waiting for the Digital Download...gonna keep playing some Dark Messiah: Might and Magic for now.

  • VorretVorret Member Posts: 101
    Originally posted by zartanyen


    You missed the point totaly yes a collectors in game is basickly fluff but if you have a game with staying power like a wow that fluff years later is kinda cool because now most people have moved on and its rare to now .
    The major point's are
    1. you can not buy a collectors you can only get a crap ass normal box.
    2. you are not garenteed a secure date to start your beta play, you could possibly pay the same price as joe and joe has been playing for 3months for his 75$ and you get 30 days.
    3. when a collectors comes out and you pay the extra money for it ( and you get the usal fluff that comes along with it that most  don't even keep 3months down the line that was probaly made by some exploited third world children in some sweat shop getting pennies per hour to work.)  you do not get special treatment for the extra funds you are not at the front of the list with garenteed spots to play from the moment the servers are ready to test nota, zipola, bubkas...
    LMAO at least with my darkfail account I turned around and sold the account for 10 times what I payed because of supply and demand  same premiss here limited accounts alot of people want them  but to turn around and say well out of 10,000 copies sold you are in a basickly a  loto roll to see when you will get into play ( come on hack roll) that is strait BS not even darkfail blew it that big in the beging ya you had que's but you where waiting to play your account right then and their you did not get a well bob is going to be in this month and well tome might get in the following month and hate to break it to you but you crapped out and rolled snake eye's so you get it 30days before release for the same price bob payed and has been playing for 5months and o ya billy the smart one waited to release so you got 30days on him but he payed about 50% less for the game then you did but hey you can always say your bought it first and you got that way cool normal ass box before him..
    thinking of another company's moto that fits right in here and get their speach from their offical forms and ingame CSR O YA thanks for playing warhammer we have your cash sucker not beat it.... 

    Have you been to school?

    You sound like someone who's never been able to get past grade 1.

    Other than that, since you're post is so misinformed I'm not even going to bother replying to it.

  • patrikd23patrikd23 Member UncommonPosts: 1,155

    If the servers are not laggin, and the game is what they promised and I get a 7-14 day trial before I buy I dont mind paying that.

  • sbantingsbanting Member Posts: 238
    Originally posted by Vorret

    Originally posted by zartanyen


    You missed the point totaly yes a collectors in game is basickly fluff but if you have a game with staying power like a wow that fluff years later is kinda cool because now most people have moved on and its rare to now .
    The major point's are
    1. you can not buy a collectors you can only get a crap ass normal box.
    2. you are not garenteed a secure date to start your beta play, you could possibly pay the same price as joe and joe has been playing for 3months for his 75$ and you get 30 days.
    3. when a collectors comes out and you pay the extra money for it ( and you get the usal fluff that comes along with it that most  don't even keep 3months down the line that was probaly made by some exploited third world children in some sweat shop getting pennies per hour to work.)  you do not get special treatment for the extra funds you are not at the front of the list with garenteed spots to play from the moment the servers are ready to test nota, zipola, bubkas...
    LMAO at least with my darkfail account I turned around and sold the account for 10 times what I payed because of supply and demand  same premiss here limited accounts alot of people want them  but to turn around and say well out of 10,000 copies sold you are in a basickly a  loto roll to see when you will get into play ( come on hack roll) that is strait BS not even darkfail blew it that big in the beging ya you had que's but you where waiting to play your account right then and their you did not get a well bob is going to be in this month and well tome might get in the following month and hate to break it to you but you crapped out and rolled snake eye's so you get it 30days before release for the same price bob payed and has been playing for 5months and o ya billy the smart one waited to release so you got 30days on him but he payed about 50% less for the game then you did but hey you can always say your bought it first and you got that way cool normal ass box before him..
    thinking of another company's moto that fits right in here and get their speach from their offical forms and ingame CSR O YA thanks for playing warhammer we have your cash sucker not beat it.... 

    Have you been to school?

    You sound like someone who's never been able to get past grade 1.

    Other than that, since you're post is so misinformed I'm not even going to bother replying to it.



     

    Darn you just did it!

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  • jusomdudejusomdude Member RarePosts: 2,706

    What?! It costs money to ship things half way across the world? You're kidding! :/

  • FariicFariic Member Posts: 1,546

    Once again,

    If you're a small company, without a distribution center or deal, and you manufacture a box in only the few thousands it cost more. 

    The reason why a normal box sale runs around the 50-60 USD range is,

    Standardized pricing for starters, and,

    they print a half million boxes!

    If you aren't running off a few hundred thousand plus boxes it costs a lot more to make.

    Sv isn't making much of a profit by selling only a few thousand boxes, and they can't sell them at the typical cost of a normal box because it's costing them almost as much to produce the box as they are charging for it.

    They aren't trying to rip people off

    They aren't NCsoft who can produce millions of boxes that they know they will sell the magority of.

    SV is only allowing 10k pre-purchases, and only some of them are box versions.

    If I wanted to produce a poster quality print of one of my paintings it cost me an arm and a leg to do just a few.  However, if I have the print shop produce me several hundred, if not thousand, it cost me next to nothing.

    Manufacturing works in bulk, the more you make the less it cost and the better your profit margin.

    Edit:  Why isn't a mod deleting these posts?  I've seen almost a half dozen of these now.

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,063

    Starvault needs the money.  Yep, plain and simple, if they can't raise enough funds, they won't be able to complete the game according to the vision they hold for it.

    They could shove it out the door an unfinished mess if you like. (you won't) or they can go this route and try to get the fan base to "invest" in the game now.

    In addition to the capitol raised, they can use the sub numbers to reach out to other investors and say see.... we have"xxxxx" thousands of customers willing to hand us cash on a hope and a prayer, if only we can complete this game.

    Might work, might not, heck everyone who preorders and pays in advance might lose the entire "investment".

    If you are a fan of FFA, full loot gemes, consider making the investment, and you might finally get the game you've been hoping for.

    Or go play Darkfall.

     

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  • FariicFariic Member Posts: 1,546

    Why aren't you people floading the DFO forums?

    They don't offer a box, and they charge as much for a download through a TORRENT as you pay for a box in a store.

    Nor do I see people creating post after post about the cost of a game that's produced by EA, SoE, NCsoft, Blizzard.  Those guys are charging 55-60 a game and it's costing them no where near that much to produce it.

    The margin between cost of manufacturing to consumer fee, MO is CHEAPER then the typical game.

    Often time you're paying 300+ percent more for a game in the store then it cost the manufacturer to make.

    Some of you should be bitching about that.  Not a small company who could only afford to create a very limitted run of boxes.

  • ScoorgeScoorge Member Posts: 142
    Originally posted by zartanyen


    Title says it all
    I just got my Aion collectors and it cost me 60$ U.S., for that I am garenteed to play ever beta event, and get ingame items at release.
    Now for every mmo that I have ever got and was not able to get a collectors they have all gone for 40$ and the collectors have ranged from 60$ to 80$ and most all where packed with stuff including ingame items that where always unique to the collectors addition.
    Now lets look at this for your 75$ you are not even garenteed that you will have playing time from now till release it could take months till you get in, and all you get is a regular addition shiped out to you well who knows when it will be shiped.
    Now what if I have to have a collectors addition as i am just that guy who has to have it and will not cring at the 100 to 120$ U.S.  price tag of it( sorry their was not a conversion to U.S. as you could not order it.)  I have to play a guessing game as to when I can order it? I get two ( from the looks of them) little warhammer like figures? a bag with leather draw strings and a art book?? no ingame items??? and as far as i seen it said you get a locked beat invite ok. when is that at just says you get a locked beta did not say you are the first to play your locked beta could be the last group in..
    Do not get this thread wrong this not me QQing on the single topic of OMG 75$ /cry /cry /rage QQ on a form over price,
    If they would have had collectors additions for sale and said you buy this and you download the client and bam you start playing right now I would be playing not posting..
    That is not the case tho what I am getting at is compared to the market of mmo's for what you get for your money as almost a standard is not the case here and for them to come out and say you must buy this regular addition and have no solid answer as to when you will be able to play the game is well a plain joke.
    To compare this to what the compition put out well darkfall you bought downloaded and played Q's and all a side, Aion you could buy the regular,collectors,box, addition's and you pay you download and play collectors garenteed to play no matter what.
    Big diffrences I will wait for the collectors to become avalible before i buy and will only do that if they come out and say you will be the first to have the chance to play if you buy the collectors other wise will just wait for normal release and buy a cheaper download version.
    I do not want this post as a stear clear post more of a informative post to hopefully help you decide on when you will be getting this game to play basied on what you well get  for your money.

     

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    On a personal Note on this nitwit...you are so HORRIBLY misinformed and wrong in so many facts that it almost makes me want to vomit. You have ZERO clue what you are talking about. Like others already said there is not even a point starting to explain things to you.

    Another Note: Beta does not mean play for fun and joy and "free play time". People like you are useless in ANY Beta.

    And ingame items...seriously dude do you even know that this is a Full-Loot PVP MMO? Full-Loot? Ingame Items? Let those two phrases work on your brain over night okay?

  • DarkPonyDarkPony Member Posts: 5,566
    Originally posted by Scoorge


    And ingame items...seriously dude do you even know that this is a Full-Loot PVP MMO? Full-Loot? Ingame Items? Let those two phrases work on your brain over night okay?

     

    "Noooo! They took my ingame items!" *insert unhappy lolrus here*

    Hehe, that is another thing I like about full loot now that you mention it; flash your uber rare extra speshul gear at your own risk! (just like in rl, for that matter).

  • deleted_01deleted_01 Member Posts: 10

    Amazing how you miss the point,

    The point is every other game you pay. you play. you do not wait your random amont of time to play the product you bought.

    When our servers are up and runing you are in Aion you buy it and when they open servers if you bought it you can play when the servers are down you can not.,

    The servers are up but well your number x in block x,y,or z so you have to wait your turn for us to let you in alto bob may have payed the same price as you he could posibly play for months before you do ,do to the timming of his purchage people messing up buying the game ect.ect. and the time frame could be a matter of minutes or a hour not days or weeks...

     

    The point is you feel that its is ok to pay the same price as another person and not get the exact same game play potential out of your product you bought. bob should not get to play longer then I do if we bolth payed the same price and the difrence in our purchage's was a matter of minutes or hours...

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