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+1 Gear, Keep or Toss?

toddzetoddze Member UncommonPosts: 2,150

I saw a thread asking about this on another forum I belive it was gamefaqs, and I was shocked at some of the responses from people. So what does the MMORPG community seem to think.

I will reserve my opinion for later.

 

Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore)
Now Playing: N/A
Worst MMO: FFXIV
Favorite MMO: FFXI

Comments

  • whatamidoingwhatamidoing Member Posts: 163

    I voted yes. I think the whole HQ system added variety to gearing your character up. Also, it was definitely something that was a good incentive for crafters to achieve and surely allowed them to separate the good crafters from the great ones (especially with all the trial and error involved i.e. what game day it was, which way you were facing, etc.).

  • popinjaypopinjay Member Posts: 6,539

    Speaking of high quality gear, here's a Kraken club someone made.

    This thing actually looks pretty good. There's a whole sequence of shots but here's the before and after pics:

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    Btw: Voted for +1 gear to stay, although it probably won't.

  • LexinLexin Member UncommonPosts: 701

    Loved the idea of HQ gear and being able to sign them so people can show off their handy work.

    If I had a Kraken Club my Drk would be a beast but too expensive might be a .01% drop from BCNM so I will keep my dreams of having one =).

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  • swalker23swalker23 Member Posts: 266
    Originally posted by whatamidoing


    I voted yes. I think the whole HQ system added variety to gearing your character up. Also, it was definitely something that was a good incentive for crafters to achieve and surely allowed them to separate the good crafters from the great ones (especially with all the trial and error involved i.e. what game day it was, which way you were facing, etc.).

     

    Yup and also +1 gear will help stimulate the economy and help the crafter make money.  Take for instance a hauby, you could purchase one for less money than the equipment so anyone that don't mind farming can afford one.  The +1 will be overpriced so only the rich can afford in turn gives profit to the crafter so he can skill up and make more items.  Its like the Toyota Camary and the Lexus basically they are the same car but is more HQ than the other only someone with deep pockets can afford one while someone with a steady job and good credit can get the camary.

     

    LOL that home made Kraken club looks nice, that is what you call a fan.

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  • I'm missing what the downside of having +1 gear in the game is.

  • swalker23swalker23 Member Posts: 266
    Originally posted by Sixpax


    I'm missing what the downside of having +1 gear in the game is.

     

    From what I can see its nothing besides the price of it. The price shouldn't even be an issue because if you can't afford it get the LQ. If they decide to do away with the +1 gear crafters will just make the LQ gear expensive to buy.

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  • LexinLexin Member UncommonPosts: 701
    Originally posted by swalker23

    Originally posted by Sixpax


    I'm missing what the downside of having +1 gear in the game is.

     

    From what I can see its nothing besides the price of it. The price shouldn't even be an issue because if you can't afford it get the LQ. If they decide to do away with the +1 gear crafters will just make the LQ gear expensive to buy.

     

    They won't raise the price they will just set it to a price where they can make a profit otherwise if we can't make a profit then there will be none of those items up ever.

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  • whatamidoingwhatamidoing Member Posts: 163
    Originally posted by Lexin

    Originally posted by swalker23

    Originally posted by Sixpax


    I'm missing what the downside of having +1 gear in the game is.

     

    From what I can see its nothing besides the price of it. The price shouldn't even be an issue because if you can't afford it get the LQ. If they decide to do away with the +1 gear crafters will just make the LQ gear expensive to buy.

     

    They won't raise the price they will just set it to a price where they can make a profit otherwise if we can't make a profit then there will be none of those items up ever.

    Exactly, so they would have to raise the price to make it more profitable to make up for the profit loss from HQ being gone.

     

  • DewmDewm Member UncommonPosts: 1,337

     

    Keep it. the way I saw it, instead of haveing

     

    100k swords and armor. you had the +1 setup which gave you more like 300k swords and armor.

     

    And yes i didn't get the +1 gear most of the time....but its really not that cool if everybody has the best gear...nothing to look forward to/work for.

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  • ic0n67ic0n67 Member Posts: 776
    Originally posted by Dewm


     
    Keep it. the way I saw it, instead of haveing
     
    100k swords and armor. you had the +1 setup which gave you more like 300k swords and armor.
     
    And yes i didn't get the +1 gear most of the time....but its really not that cool if everybody has the best gear...nothing to look forward to/work for.

     

    If they did keep it i'd suggest that the HQ of something be called somethign differently or have the icons be something that is noticably differnt. I always though it was annoying to have a bright white box around the item to differentiate itself as better. Any while we are at it we could have it where it look differnt on the player too. So not every player in the dunes looks the same kinda thing.

  • LexinLexin Member UncommonPosts: 701
    Originally posted by ic0n67

    Originally posted by Dewm


     
    Keep it. the way I saw it, instead of haveing
     
    100k swords and armor. you had the +1 setup which gave you more like 300k swords and armor.
     
    And yes i didn't get the +1 gear most of the time....but its really not that cool if everybody has the best gear...nothing to look forward to/work for.

     

    If they did keep it i'd suggest that the HQ of something be called somethign differently or have the icons be something that is noticably differnt. I always though it was annoying to have a bright white box around the item to differentiate itself as better. Any while we are at it we could have it where it look differnt on the player too. So not every player in the dunes looks the same kinda thing.

     

    Maybe a glow or something? I mean people know what gear you had just by examining you.

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  • AsuraGerryAsuraGerry Member Posts: 12
    Originally posted by whatamidoing

    Originally posted by Lexin

    Originally posted by swalker23

    Originally posted by Sixpax


    I'm missing what the downside of having +1 gear in the game is.

     

    From what I can see its nothing besides the price of it. The price shouldn't even be an issue because if you can't afford it get the LQ. If they decide to do away with the +1 gear crafters will just make the LQ gear expensive to buy.

     

    They won't raise the price they will just set it to a price where they can make a profit otherwise if we can't make a profit then there will be none of those items up ever.

    Exactly, so they would have to raise the price to make it more profitable to make up for the profit loss from HQ being gone.

     

    Hmmm I can't help but wonder.... In FFXI Some NQ items are cheaper than the sum of their parts, this could be due to a couple reasons namely, crafters trying to sell fast to get another shot at the HQ (jackpot) OR gilbuyers raising craft levels.... I propose that without an HQ system crafting may be completely overlooked by the player if (and we all know they exist in every mmo) gilbuyers or otherwise hasty and careless players bite the bullet on the exchange to raise their crafts faster, after a couple years the crafting system might fall apart completely as no one would want to craft if everything or most things are cheaper than the sum of their parts with no hope of HQ to make your gillies. My 2 cents

     

  • GameslaveGameslave Member Posts: 130

    I voted no, but that was before I read the posts, which make a lot of sense. Just about every last one of them. What I would suggest for FFXIV is that if there is to be HQ items, make them actually High Quality. In most cases the +1 gear is not even a noticeable difference than the NQ. It is literally +1 from the stats offered by the original, which I don't think is all that impressive considering how much time and/or money went into making them. EIther it should provide better benefits that actually make people WANT to get them, because unless you're uber-elite and obscenely wealthy they just go overlooked anyway - or they should be slightly easier to make / obtain. It needs tweaking and more incentive than +1 to stats, like the glow that was suggested or maybe even the option to dye them specific colors, because it provides more appeal for gamers who are more about their visual and roleplay dynamics over being hung up on numbers. Right now the only thing that can be said for +1 items is that they are always crafted. That's the accomplishment of crafters. For farmers it's getting rare drops, for crafters it's pruducing HQ's.

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  • MegumichanMegumichan Member Posts: 4

    FFXI was my first MMO (besides like...Runescape..lol) and for a long while I failed to grasp the idea of the +1 items and their use. At that time I consider myself to be a young casual player and I knew that I didn't have to understand every aspect of FFXI in order to do my job in a group and grow through the levels. I think that it's important to have gear that is a semi-tier above other more common loot (most games have this whether it's the +1 gear of FFXI or the greens and blues of WoW). However I was never sure that I liked how you either had create it (I never really understood the crafting system of FFXI...and to this day am still...semi-educated) or had to buy it from the AH for an amazingly inflated price.

    For these reasons I voted other. I think that if they scrapped the +1 system, I'd be ok with it, but I'd want some other system to be implimented so players could have a chance at some better quality gear than just your basic shirt and pants etc.

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