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Gonna try this game.
hybridfury
Member Posts: 138
in EVE Online
Got a free 21 day trial of this game with my new video card so figured why not check it out. Any pointers for a newbie? What server would be best?
Currently Playing: Toying around with AoC and bored with Darkfall
Thinking of Playing: Fallen Earth or Darkfall after this months update.
Have Played: EQ1, EQ2, WoW, WAR, Vanguard, EvE, Requiem, PW, Lotro, Lineage2, AoC, SWG...
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I agree train your learning skills first they'll save you a lot of time down the road. I would suggest joining a corparation. Corps make EvE online much more enjoyable. EvE can be extremely boring running around solo especially when you just start out. Try to find people that like doing missions and complexs if that's what you're into. If pvp is your thing, there are a lot of corps that will take new players for pvp and teach them the ropes.
Cool, thanks for the info. It just got done downloading so gonna check it out
Currently Playing: Toying around with AoC and bored with Darkfall
Thinking of Playing: Fallen Earth or Darkfall after this months update.
Have Played: EQ1, EQ2, WoW, WAR, Vanguard, EvE, Requiem, PW, Lotro, Lineage2, AoC, SWG...
LOL your in for a whole new gaming experience and it's worth trying out : ]
Just remember, more than any other game out there your success in EVE depends on other players.
Yes training the learning skills will be useful, but only if your going to stay ingame for a while.
To get a little more out of the game during your first few days open the certificate planner
train for basic certs in the following areas (balance learning/cert traiing to maximum your fun levels)
Core - Capacitor, Fitting, Navigation & Integrity
Defence - Armour or Shield Tanking
Gunnery - Turret Control & Frigate <xxx> Turrets
Missile - Missile Control & Frigate Launcher Control (if Caldari)
Drones - Drone Control & Combat Drone Control (if Gallente)
that will enable you to cope with L1 and L2 missions easily
plz dont talk if u dont know about that
is a Chinese server and in order to play in that server u need a chinese ID card number
so your asian server is reduced to "eve got that server because Chinese laws say so"
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Cozy you're pretty much flaming the choir tbh. The guy agrees with you and if you read his whole thread you will see he says there is only one sever, and to disregard the chinese one ( unless you live in china or have a chinese gov ID card).
plz dont talk if u dont know about that
is a Chinese server and in order to play in that server u need a chinese ID card number
so your asian server is reduced to "eve got that server because Chinese laws say so"
Wow .. lol, you're an idiot.
Anyways , OP. The Learning Skills are awesome IF you plan to stay in the game. But if you're solely just looking for a taste, and want to have a positive trial, have some fun exploring other options.
I will warn you that the game is so large that the trial, even if you really went after it, is much too small/short to contain more than a microscopic pin prick of whats to come if you pursue a career in Eve.
I've only played for a couple of months and I've barely scratched the surface. I'm not being dramatic, its really .... really ...THAT big. When I log on and see 45k people its amazing to think that most of them are in a game experience completely different than my own but CCP has done such a amazing job of layering dynamics upon dynamics the utterly distinct styles of gaming are wholly tied to one another.
To get an idea of what Eve is, why people LOVE this game so much, and why I'm taking the time to write this post, I recommend reading the history of the game. I don't mean its development. I mean the history of New Eden , the history written by the players. You'll hear about treason, embezzlement, espionage, sabotage and war. Juggernaut tyrannical alliances finally destroyed, and new ones replacing them. Old players will reminisce about past accomplishments or how they hit record profit by capitalizing on such and such war. Once through the rabbit hole this game has it all, military strategy, logistics, market ventures, bonds, battle , and more.
Play the trial and have fun, but dont make the mistake and assume you've played the game. Good luck to you
He may be, but he's also right.
In fact, CCP got 2 other more or less public test servers.
Just to be accurate about server
You've made a wise choice. EvE is the best mmo on the market right now! I would suggest training all your learning skills first, like Vendayn mentioned, it'll save you a ton of time.
here a little list
ADAM
CHAOS
CHINAJOY
ENTROPY
MULTIPLICITY
TRANSAM
UNICORN
VERTIGO
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I tried this game out a year ago or so. And its really hard to get in to even though I tried really hard for like a week.
Atleast when you dont have a friend you can ask anything you need to know.
Really tricky to understand alot of things, atleast for my mind.
I really wanted to get in to this game I've read so much great things about it.
I'd probably give another trial go if I had a IRL-person guide that has played the game and knows everything xD.
So I hope you get in to it and have some help, its really needed for new players imo.
You've made a wise choice. EvE is the best mmo on the market right now! I would suggest training all your learning skills first, like Vendayn mentioned, it'll save you a ton of time.
For his first character and first experience this may be a bad choice. To train the learning skills first that is. Not only because it may keep him from experience different ships and equipment, and get into the program, during his trial but it might aswell drive him away from the game.
For long term, absolutely. In short term and when one are learning the ropes and are getting into the game, just don't start with them.
If one are to one should do a plan in Evemon and optimize that plan with training skills and later move on from that, but that may be slightly to indepth as from getting into the game at first sight.
Well in conjunction with your suggestion I would make that my tip. Check out what you want to do, make a plan for it in Evemon. Use some battleclinic fitting. Read the discussion about that fitting and make an optimized plan in evemon, don't forget the generalistic fitting that make one able to actually be able to have enough powergrid and such.
I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
"You have the right not to be killed"
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I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
"You have the right not to be killed"
For his first character and first experience this may be a bad choice. To train the learning skills first that is. Not only because it may keep him from experience different ships and equipment, and get into the program, during his trial but it might aswell drive him away from the game.
this ^
train learning skills only if u play to play more that 4-5 months, if u train learning skills you combat skill dont advance and will be hard to earn ISK
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When I started what I did for fun was early on train the race frigate up and try out a few other frigates then get a destroyer along with training for Salvagers so I anihilated everything in L1 missions and made some quick isk selling the salvage loot.
1. Don't train learning skills. You don't even know if you'll stay past trial. Why would anyone suggest this to a brand new player unless you want him to quit? He's stuck in boring PVE Empire Space training LEARNING Skills? rofl. Go fuck yourself if you think this is a good idea. That's like telling someone to masturbate for a year before they experience pussy.
2. Join a corporation. Running missions, ratting, etc -- that's all PVE stuff and it is exceptionally boring. EXCEPTIONALLY BORING. But it's there because the vibrant economy allows people to profit off of it. I won't clean toilets IRL, but there's a market for toilet cleaners. Fortunately for the economy, there's no shortage of carebear toilet cleaners in EVE who think it's fun to mine and haul. It's sorta like how it's good that there are some many virgins because it gives attractive males like myself more selection. Then again, I'd rather be facing the armada of toilet scrubbers in low security space than watch them run the carbon copy missions 50 fucking times.
3. Unfortunately, you will be running missions in the beginning unless you find another way to make money. I personally like trading. I pop in the market for 20 minutes, put up buy orders, put up sell orders, play the market, and then credits passively fall into my wallet.
4. However, you will be instantly surprised to find out that no matter how much ISK you have and how fast you grasp the game, you're stuck in a Frigate and only the passage of real time can you gain skills. This is frustrating and the hardest aspect to get into with EVE.
5. That's why you will fill the gap by joining a corporation. They will teach you and show you the ropes, hopefully. Try to join a PVP operation. After all, why are you gaining skills and money if you don't have the intention of entering PVP? PVP is ruthless and hasn't been done this ruthlessly since Ultima Online. This isn't WoW where death means a few gold pieces of repair and a trot back to your corpse. That isn't even PVP, it's fucking tag. In EVE, your ship is blow to fuckall and what's left of your inventory just floats in space.
6. Join a corporation.
7. The newbie channel (which you leave once you join a corporation) is full of people that mission run and shit all day. Talking to them is depressing as fuck because they are legitmately working a job in EVE while you're trying to have fun. When you express an interest in having fun, they will discourage you. "Bu bu but 0.0 is soo dangeroousss" and "Dude, why PVP when you can orbit asteroid belts!" It's like trying to talk about pussy to a bunch of shut-in dungeon gamers who consequentially try to discourage you and shut you up. They'd rather change the subject back to "mining tactics" and space cock.
8. Join a corporation. EVE should FORCE newbies to join a corporation. You won't experience EVE in Carebear Space much like you don't experience any MMO in uncontested, safe territory. You're playing with other humans for a fucking reason, not to plan operations againt NPCs -- fabrications of computer code. lulz
EVE is one of the most rewarding MMOs on the market. It's human. It's vibrant. It's dynamic. It's humorously called Spreadsheets in Space by Newgrounds.com Flash Gamers and middle school recess champs, but that's because it's human, dynamic, and vibrant. Look forward to the open, low security, large corporation/alliance land grabs. It's a warzone unlike any other game on the market. It's just fucking sad that EVE seemingly hides this from new players by shrouds of Newbie Corp Carebear Chat and horrible missions that convinces newbies that it's all EVE has to offer.
My ingame name is "Industry". Send me a IM or EVEmail in game if you're starting out, especially if you're getting discouraged and want to quit. I can try to hook you up with some newfound ambitions and goals.
Cheers
Masterbation .. pussy? Great analogy did you think of that all by yourself? Fvcking neanderthal
It is funny how the newbie channel tries to scare people into not going into low sec space. The first time I ventured into a low sec system I was positive I was going to get blown up insta-matically. To my surprise I was only person in the system while the high sec system I just left had 50+ people in it.
There are certain queer times and occasions in this strange mixed affair we call life when a man takes this whole universe for a vast practical joke, though the wit thereof he but dimly discerns, and more than suspects that the joke is at nobody's expense but his own.
-- Herman Melville
Play thru the tutorial at least 2-3 times to get used to the game. the do the 10 "tutorial" missions
During the trial just train the combat related skills.
If you decide to sub then train the learning skills 1st.
Remember you have several different paths to make money and there are plenty of resourses online for guidence.
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0.0 space is not as bad as people make it out to be, just have to keep and eye out on your scanner for ships nearby. The worse place to be is low sec. 0.4-0.1 space, that is where gate camps and pirates like to hang out at.
Masterbation .. pussy? Great analogy did you think of that all by yourself? Fvcking neanderthal
Interestingly enough, there aren't that many paths to make money off the bat that would make a newbie stick around for more than a few hours.
- Mining? If I'm going to do something so repetitive and boring, I'll go ahead and get a shitty deskjob in the real world because at least I'll be making real fucking dollars. Mining is the #1 way to turn this game into a job.
- Mission running? Even the newest player can figure out that they rotate the same mission over and over. It's not fun and dulls out so fast that it gives new players the impression that EVE doesn't offer shit because Quests are the lifeblood of other MMOs. However, mission running in EVE, especially level 1 missions, are about as optional as cutting your balls off for leisure.
- Manufacturing? Maybe. Passive income if you can find some blueprints, buy the materials, and throw down a manufacturing order. Doesn't take much time to do, but manufacturing process takes real time to complete. You're pretty limited as a newbie without industry skills, but it's not hard to flood the market with some small EMP ammo when you can buy all the materials in your space station.
- Trading? My personal favorite. Trade from the newbie stations the tutorials send you to because you can buy and sell ammo to the horde of other newbies running tutorials. Once you learn the ropes and also finish the tutorial agent missions (and the epic arc), you can set up shop in one of the trading hubs of your sovereignty and trade for real. You basically look through the marketplace for items that sell for much less than you can buy them for. This means that the market is broken in this region for that particular item and you can profit by closing the gap. You basically undercut everyone else with a buy and sell order and it can get pretty ruthless. It's like noncombat PVP at times and operates like a real marketplace. It also gets questioning when you can make millions of passive ISK in EVE by playing the market but in real life, you're broke and unemployed. Think about it.
The Solution:
Dabble in all of these to get a sense of ISK so you appreciate it, but JOIN A CORPORATION. Any half decent corporation will pay for your learning skills and ship fits rendering boring isk-grinding pointless. Newbies are cheap to fund -- they drive frigates. It also puts you in the situation of not needing to do boring shit to be able to buy what you need, but you're still waiting for basic skills to train so you can do the most basic level PVP (or whatever you want to do that you find fun which should be PVP or EVE isn't your game). This is how it should be. You can do fun things now without worrying about running missions and alt-tabbing EVE while you wait for your cargo to fill with mining ore.
If you're freed from the concept of grinding for credits, you can play the game on your own terms. You log in to either change up your Skill Training Queue, or to kick some ass in PVP with your corporation. In all my years of playing EVE, I've hated manufacturing/industry/MISSIONS with various degrees of passion. I just PVP and Trade and I can't imagine EVE any other way.
I'd have to add one more bit advice to those who take the trading path.
Make sure the items you decide to trade in are in hot demand. Some modules are considered indespensible in certain standard fittings, and they sell quickly.
Others are such poor choices no one ever buys them, no matter how cheap you sell them.
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Eve is one of those games that becomes freaking awesome the longer you play it.
Sure it could be boring starting as a solo miner or level one mission runner but once you build up a lilttle isk the game blossoms.
You join a corp get heavily into all sorts of industry or pve like exploration, null sec ratting or even L4 missions and pvp.... holy shit!!!! pvp in eve is simply amazing.
It's hard to put into words tbh.
The one problem with eve is that jump you need to make from boring solo stuff at the beggining of the game to the Corp stuff later on where you really get into the meat and potatoes of the game has alot of players losing interest. That's why Eve has 300k subs and not a million plus.
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