No offense to anyone but I for one am already getting a bit tired of all the back and forth from everyone about what has come out after the NDA was lifted. Not even a day and the ignorance is almost deafening in some instances. I mean, come on people, all everyone has been complaining about for so long is getting new info about the game. Now we have it in droves and all most can do is still bitch. For the record I am not pinpointing anyone in perticular.
Am in the beta too.. cant say i like the game so very much. havent playd EQ so maybe its something with that. my first game was DAOC and i still play that game. i really dont like the zone system,the graphic makes the game feels unreal (plastic) but maybe it will change tough.. gona try it out more before totaly quit or buy the game.
I agree completely, I was very very hopeful about this game, but it just hasn't succeeded. I'm not a WoW fanboi at all myself for the same reasons (cartoony), but I was immpressed by the stress test they had and if I was going to buy either at this time I'd probably go with WoW, just becasue I had fun in the stress test and have found EQ2 to be very "grindy", absolutely group focused, no class distinction, well basically just not fun. I wish very very much it wasn't so. I suspect they're going to do a typical SoE thing and push this out the door for the $ when it's just plain not ready (the fact that the nda's been lifted makes me think I may be right on track with this feeling). By the way the whole business they've tried to say about it being casual gamer friendly forget that, it was just pr talk, this is power-gamer country. My only real hope now for what i was hopeing this would be is Vanguard.
Originally posted by jd269 Thought I'd express my thoughts here on EQ2 since the NDA was just lifted. Well, to start out let me say that I am extremely disappointed in the game. I'll give you my ratings breakdown. Performance: 2/10 The requirements are unneccesarily large even playing at the lowest settings.. and even while playing at the lowest settings on a medium PC there are tremendous lag issues. Many know I was a bit of an eq2 fanboy for awhile, and argued that it would perform well on current PC's.. I couldn't have been more wrong. On my own PC, a 2400 MhZ Athlon, with 1 gig ram, and a Radeon 9800, I can barely handle playing at the lowest settings. The frame rate is terrible, everything you do lags, and at the lowest settings which I play at, it looks like crud. Nothing at all like those fancy screenshots, even when I put it up to medium (which I can't take for very long because the increase in lag drives me further into insanity). Combat 3/10 It's no better than EQ1, sorry. Heroic opportunities are a complete waste outside of soloing, and locked combat has led to more trains in a few weeks of beta testing than in a few years of EQ1. Classes 1/10 There is really only 4 classes.. the sub classes have very little distinction, and you wind up needing 2 healers just to survive. If you didn't like how you needed lots of clerics in EQ1 to do anything.. well, get ready for it to get even worse. As far as actually playing the classes they are all the same.. not like EQ1, where melee characters were basically all about positioning etc and a few disc's.. you pretty much auto position in EQ2 so that's not an issue, you just hit buttons the same as casters did in EQ1. Soloing 0/10 Forget it. Completely not worth it, less worth it than EQ1. This is a grouping game. Grouping 4/10 The actual grouping experience is worse than EQ1.. generally you want 2 healer's (which can be difficult to find), there's less amenities when it comes to finding groupmates compared to EQ1, and people leave groups often to complete quests. Crafting - I don't craft, so I can't tell you exactly, but I have heard from crafter's that it is quite good. Questing 4/10 Think of nearly every quest being an uninvolving Fed Ex quest, and you don't know where to get them from. One npc may give you a quest later, but you have no way of knowing.. no indicator, and when you're done for most quests you have to go back once again and search through all the npc's just to try and find the npc you originally got the quest from (and yes, it is a hassle because you can easily get 100+ quests in your quest book). Graphics 8/10 (5/10 on my pc specs above) You've seen the official screenshots (although I have to wonder if they've been retouched), and they look quite good. While very high poly, the game as a whole just feels very stiff, and unalive. No torso, or chest slider in character creation makes everyone look very similar, and some of the haircuts just appear plain stupid. Sound 8/10 Voice overs are pretty good, sound is pretty good, but there's nothing gripping like the final fantasy soundtrack. You won't be disappointed with them. Story 2/10 Story, what story? Immersion 4/10 Just felt it very tough to get into.. immersion isn't all about sound and graphics. It did captivate me a few times early on, but after the initial oooh aaah, it's EQ2, I just couldn't get into it. Final Conclusion Simply put, I won't buy EQ2. From my posts you can see that I'm not a WoW fanboy, but what I saw in the WoW stress test was much further along than EQ2 (just way too cartoony). The game does nothing innovative, it is just another case of all glitter, and no substance as we unfortunately see quite often in the gaming industry. I hope that those reading aren't suckered in by the celebrity voice over's or the official screenshots. This game will not immerse you anywhere near the way EQ1 did... well maybe that's a good thing. If you play the game hardcore for a month for $60 maybe that's worth it.. since with most non-mmorpg's you don't get that.
to everyone that said I was just being negative, blah. Plenty of people hold the same, if not worse, opinion as I did on the game. And there are a shitton more on the beta boards, and all the other MMO related forums. And strangely enough, they all seem to say the same thing. Perhaps because there just might be something to it.
And I'm still waiting on 90210's 300,000 explanation.
AHHHH!! God I wish alot of you would get your facts straight! You try and compare it to the issues with SWG well SOE had NO real control over what went on with SWG. They even said it publically themselves that EVERYTHING they do comes from or goes through LucasArts. Especially all the issues with the game now like the new expansion that is coming out its basically LucasArts going DO THIS and do it this way and OH use our Dev Team while your at it. SOE is basicaly a place holder for all the blame to go onto because no one seems to pay any real attention to who's in charge.
Then there are the well what about the launch problems with the first Everquest. SOE didn't even OWN Variant when Everquest first launch so again NOT their fault. Everquest 2 and a few other smaller games like Planetside are the only games they Put together themselves!!
As for what ever issues that EQ2 is having now, like not enough quests or content, ever think about they aren't putting every piece of content into the game. Its a Beta, its basically a "preview" of the game to get people into the game and find bugs they couldn't find themselves. Of course its going to be missing or having bugs and just because the NDA is lifted does not mean the game is going gold. Its a hype builder, because now everyone can talk about the game in public and give people some idea of what the buzz is really about instead of rumour.
Im taking what alot of beta testers have to say with a grain of salt mostly from the pure fact alot of them are hard core gamers who are severly jaded and opinionated or people who have NO idea what to really do in a beta test. You're there to play the game sure, but you're really there to find those pathing bugs, broken quests, lagged zones via server side and the likes and report it with helpful descriptions of the problem and maybe even some helpful ideas on how youd like to see it work. Thats what Beta testing is for, not whining and moaning, which soooo many people do all the time.
From the estimation I've seen on alot of sites that get word from SOE there's atleast 2 more months of testing and development to go. And the fact Wow Pushed their released date till next year, Im thinking hmm SOE must be waiting till guess what Next year! So keep enjoying the beta, find the bugs, make suggestions that are worth while and meaningful to try and help the game. I know you folks are far more educated then you act sometimes!!
If Everquest 2 does come out before the New Year well....Hell NO MMO has ever been released complete, Im still going to give it a shot just like I did Horizons, and Ultima Online *several times* and even WoW. The only game I ever beta tested I didn't buy was SWG, mostly because I found it seriously tedious so it annoyed me. Now if I could just in some sick reality get into the Everquest 2 beta..lol. *done ranting now, goes to find a soda*
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Can you post a link where it says WOW pushed the release date to next year please?
This is the first i have heard of it and I am certainly not going to take anyones word on it without a link to the official WOW website confirming it.
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Originally posted by elvenangel And the fact Wow Pushed their released date till next year, Im thinking hmm SOE must be waiting till guess what Next year!
Intersting that you should speak of getting your facts straight.
Please, be so kind as to provide a link pointing to where Blizzard stated they were pushing the release to next year. There is nothing I saw on their site. No news about it here, or on any of the other MMO sites I frequent. And all the game stores still list Nov 04 as the release date.
Originally posted by Coldmeat I'd just like to add a big BITE ME to everyone that said I was just being negative, blah. Plenty of people hold the same, if not worse, opinion as I did on the game. And there are a shitton more on the beta boards, and all the other MMO related forums. And strangely enough, they all seem to say the same thing. Perhaps because there just might be something to it. And I'm still waiting on 90210's 300,000 explanation.
I would have probably said worse than what you put hehe. Personally, I didn't get that "awe" feeling like I do from most of the MMO's I've played. And really, this didn't feel like an MMO at all. It looked like they tried to put together a game for casual players with a long level grind *yawn*. Through the whole week i played there was no excitement in the game whatsoever.
I don't know what it is, but I can't even play this game longer than 10 minutes without feeling like i'm wasting my time.
Just a wacky observation. 1st both WoW and EQ2 have issues with the beta testers, that being said, so far I noticed that that Americans post bad about WoW, and Europeans,ect post bad about EQ2. Maybe not bad, maybe more negatively.
Is it a cultural thing? or that one gaming company is more popular for a particular geographical location?
Originally posted by Drega I hear the simpsons Comic Book guys voice when I read Harafnir's posts. Makes everything he writes just that much more entertaining.
"SOE shot my dog, killed my parents, stole my wife, and kiddnapped my lawn gnome."
LOL yeah he does seem to have that know it all nerd rage thing going doesnt he!!
Yeah. It's a shame, because it has a lot of potential, but they tried to hard to cater to casual gamers in all the wrong ways. I guess no one told them that casual gamers don't want to be treated like tards, they want to be able to log in for an hour or two, and feel they accomplished something. Instead they dumbed everything down to the point of mediocrity, and left the long level grind, and the other time sinks. So neither the casual gamers, nor the power gamers are going to feel they belong. The casual gamers will be siphoned off by WoW, and especially Guild Wars. No clue where the power gamers will go until Vanguard comes out. I guess the people that thought EQ was too complicated might feel at home there.
Sure it'll sell well enough out of the gate just because it's EQ2, but I think the real spots to watch are a month after release, and six months after release.
Originally posted by Thoom Just a wacky observation. 1st both WoW and EQ2 have issues with the beta testers, that being said, so far I noticed that that Americans post bad about WoW, and Europeans,ect post bad about EQ2. Maybe not bad, maybe more negatively. Is it a cultural thing? or that one gaming company is more popular for a particular geographical location?
Hadn't really noticed. I know there were alot of Germans bitching on the beta forums, because they felt they were being ignored when they brought up issues on their server. Aside from that, I haven't really noticed any particular trend either way.
The only thing I could think of is the Koreans almost cultlike worship of Blizzard games, Starcraft in particular.
Originally posted by Coldmeat I guess no one told them that casual gamers don't want to be treated like tards, they want to be able to log in for an hour or two, and feel they accomplished something. Instead they dumbed everything down to the point of mediocrity, and left the long level grind, and the other time sinks.
Yeah, not only is this game casual player friendly.. But it also seems like it's approved for the kids who ride the short bus to school. It felt like SOE was holding my hand through everything I did in the game.
"Kill 10 badgers over on THE EAST SIDE of antonica... Now It shouldn't be too hard. It is EXACTLY by the right side of the tower. And bring them back to ME, i'll be waiting right HERE for you to bring them back, and I will give you a shiny reward and some cookies. Do you think you can do that for me?"
Ok maybe it wasn't like that but that's what it felt like.
Originally posted by Vineyard A game for short bus riders? Cool, someone wipe the drool off that Zipperhead J-monster and tell him the good news, but watch out...he bite and throws pooh.
You can only use the same lame insults before there not funny anymore. Get a clue, or aleast sum new material you un orginal fuck. and zipperhead? wtf is that thats to weak for words you can do better bud. Think about it but not to hard we dont want u have an anurysm
Its amazing the contrast of oppinions that are comming out of the woodwork now the NDA has been lifted. I have seen everything from EQ2 lives up to everyones expectation and how wonderful it is.... too... well...like the topic discussion of this thread.
I dont know what to say except the people I know who are in Beta are having a good time. Server Lag has been discussed but this gets refinned until eventually it is no longer a concern. Normal Normal Normal.
Everything else well, I guess thats a very personal objective point of view. I will have to make my own decision after playing the game for myself. But if I can take what I have been told and pass this to you as to what my expectations are... then im really looking forward to it. If it takes me 3 months to make level 20 and I have enjoyed the journey then im in no rush.
the timing on the release date is implied. By the only taking Beta Sign ups to get an idea of how many servers they need and yadda yadda. But a friend of mine has the more accurate information on that i'll have to grab the links from him and post them.
As for the casual gamer comments about the tard treatment. From what I understand from reading stuff from SOE the area where the quests are for "tards" and they hold your hand..are the NEWBIE / Tutorial quests so its only natural they tell you basically everything anyway. Isn't it?? WoW has quests like that as well so its not just EQ2. Personaly anything that keeps me from spending 3 real time days to find a mob for a newbie quest is welcomed. I dont mind spending several days on a quest thats worth something.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
I agree on alot of the things jd269 said. Some of the points are opinion based, but some of the issues in the beta are just unignorable.
The performance/graphics: I don't know what they were thinking, when creating the graphics engine. I was testing this game on a P4 3Ghz, Radeon 9600, 512Mb ram, and it was, to put it short, totally unplayable. I lowered the graphics settings to lowest, but still it was like playing Doom 3 on a Pentium 133. This is not server lag. This is horrible programming. I knew that EQ2 would require good system specs, but this is ridicolous. Whether they did this intentionally to force people to upgrade their systems, I don't know, but the game should be playable on the aforementioned system, albeit with low details.
Despite the lag, I did get to experience the game - due to my persistance. My impression is that this game is just an upgraded version of the original EQ. Naturally, EQ2 is going to be similar to EQ, but i thought they could have added something to the gameplay - they haven't. You run around and you click on mobs and click autoattack, maybe cast a spell once in a while, until you get sick of it. That is basically the entire point of this game.
Its ironic, because as of now the only reason why I would want to play Eq2 instead of WoW, is because of the graphics and huge character customization. When the graphics doesn't work as expected, it fails miserably. WoW will have PvP and class balance, something Sony realized they won't put effort into, because making balanced classes is far more difficult than making good graphics.
The only thing that surprised me positively, was the interface. It's really easy to use and it's alot more appealing than its prequels.
Do not expect this game to be revolutionary in other areas than the graphics. I have to admit that I did not like the original EQ and its gameplay, I thought that there was a good reason for all the hype and all the promises of a revolutionary game, but this is not the case.
This game might be enjoyable, if you are interested in PvE(only), you have a monster of a computer, and you are willing to camp the same places / do the same things over and over again.
-Pi
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Originally posted by elvenangel the timing on the release date is implied. By the only taking Beta Sign ups to get an idea of how many servers they need and yadda yadda. But a friend of mine has the more accurate information on that i'll have to grab the links from him and post them.I eagerly await them.
As for the casual gamer comments about the tard treatment. From what I understand from reading stuff from SOE the area where the quests are for "tards" and they hold your hand..are the NEWBIE / Tutorial quests so its only natural they tell you basically everything anyway. Isn't it?? WoW has quests like that as well so its not just EQ2. Personaly anything that keeps me from spending 3 real time days to find a mob for a newbie quest is welcomed. I dont mind spending several days on a quest thats worth something.It's not the quests, it's that the game feels dumbed down in many areas compared to other MMO's, but at the same time, it is not a casual friendly game in that you can't really log in for just an hour or two, and get anything noticable done. You don't have any choices to make for advancing your character, aside from looks at the beginning, and most of those little things you can tweak aren't noticable in game anyway. Other than that, you can pick what gear you wear. Woo. The only thing seperating one lvl 50 Fighter from another is gear? Woop!
Originally posted by eeargy I'm still left wondering why in the name of crap SOE would lift the NDA though. Leaves me with an image of a conjurer pulling a dead rabbit from a hat and exclaiming "VOILA" with a desperate, faltering grin.
Ahh, priceless! That almost perfectly describes (in my opinion) the ethos of SOE, except that you forgot to mention that they will charge you $45 beforehand for this "entertainment", then will charge you an additional $5 for them using the silk top hat and an extra $12 for them using a real rabbit instead of a fake one. Oh, and I forgot that you didn't like your first chair so they charged you an additional $2 per hour to sit in that one you're in now, but that's ok because they threw in a free pair of those nifty 3-d glasses to increase your enjoyment of the performance.
Oh, and I would like to thank Coldmeat and the others who gave their honest opinions of the EQ2 beta instead of the "all is well" posts that the fanboi's were looking for. If you don't speak the truth about the flaws then you are only going to hurt the game worse by ignoring them.
Originally posted by sliver About soloing.. IF YOU WANT TO SOLO, GO QUEST!!!!The classes START OFF THE SAME. Diversity comes at higher levels. Im sure you didnt get to the higher levels. I thought you said honest thoughts... You are clearly biased in one way or another. -I apoligise for the caps, but I beleive they were neccesary.
If you want sunshine blown up your ass, don't read posts reviewing the game.
About questing... IF YOU WANT TO DO ANY WORTHWHILE QUESTS YOU NEED A GROUP!!!! Got it? kthxbye
Yay for diversity at higher levels. I wanna play for months before I get to the fun.
Everyone is biased, and no one is innocent. News at 11.
But thank you for those stunning insights, nevertheless.
Been in WoW beta since phase one, and have been in EQ2 beta for a couple weeks i played to level 20 and it sucks no way i whould buy this on nov 15. World of Warcraft all the way WoW beat's eq2 hands down no competition at all.
Originally posted by siven Been in WoW beta since phase one, and have been in EQ2 beta for a couple weeks i played to level 20 and it sucks no way i whould buy this on nov 15. World of Warcraft all the way WoW beat's eq2 hands down no competition at all.
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Am in the beta too.. cant say i like the game so very much. havent playd EQ so maybe its something with that. my first game was DAOC and i still play that game. i really dont like the zone system,the graphic makes the game feels unreal (plastic) but maybe it will change tough.. gona try it out more before totaly quit or buy the game.
I'd just like to add a big
BITE ME
to everyone that said I was just being negative, blah. Plenty of people hold the same, if not worse, opinion as I did on the game. And there are a shitton more on the beta boards, and all the other MMO related forums. And strangely enough, they all seem to say the same thing. Perhaps because there just might be something to it.
And I'm still waiting on 90210's 300,000 explanation.
AHHHH!! God I wish alot of you would get your facts straight! You try and compare it to the issues with SWG well SOE had NO real control over what went on with SWG. They even said it publically themselves that EVERYTHING they do comes from or goes through LucasArts. Especially all the issues with the game now like the new expansion that is coming out its basically LucasArts going DO THIS and do it this way and OH use our Dev Team while your at it. SOE is basicaly a place holder for all the blame to go onto because no one seems to pay any real attention to who's in charge.
Then there are the well what about the launch problems with the first Everquest. SOE didn't even OWN Variant when Everquest first launch so again NOT their fault. Everquest 2 and a few other smaller games like Planetside are the only games they Put together themselves!!
As for what ever issues that EQ2 is having now, like not enough quests or content, ever think about they aren't putting every piece of content into the game. Its a Beta, its basically a "preview" of the game to get people into the game and find bugs they couldn't find themselves. Of course its going to be missing or having bugs and just because the NDA is lifted does not mean the game is going gold. Its a hype builder, because now everyone can talk about the game in public and give people some idea of what the buzz is really about instead of rumour.
Im taking what alot of beta testers have to say with a grain of salt mostly from the pure fact alot of them are hard core gamers who are severly jaded and opinionated or people who have NO idea what to really do in a beta test. You're there to play the game sure, but you're really there to find those pathing bugs, broken quests, lagged zones via server side and the likes and report it with helpful descriptions of the problem and maybe even some helpful ideas on how youd like to see it work. Thats what Beta testing is for, not whining and moaning, which soooo many people do all the time.
From the estimation I've seen on alot of sites that get word from SOE there's atleast 2 more months of testing and development to go. And the fact Wow Pushed their released date till next year, Im thinking hmm SOE must be waiting till guess what Next year! So keep enjoying the beta, find the bugs, make suggestions that are worth while and meaningful to try and help the game. I know you folks are far more educated then you act sometimes!!
If Everquest 2 does come out before the New Year well....Hell NO MMO has ever been released complete, Im still going to give it a shot just like I did Horizons, and Ultima Online *several times* and even WoW. The only game I ever beta tested I didn't buy was SWG, mostly because I found it seriously tedious so it annoyed me. Now if I could just in some sick reality get into the Everquest 2 beta..lol. *done ranting now, goes to find a soda*
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
Can you post a link where it says WOW pushed the release date to next year please?
This is the first i have heard of it and I am certainly not going to take anyones word on it without a link to the official WOW website confirming it.
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Intersting that you should speak of getting your facts straight.
Please, be so kind as to provide a link pointing to where Blizzard stated they were pushing the release to next year. There is nothing I saw on their site. No news about it here, or on any of the other MMO sites I frequent. And all the game stores still list Nov 04 as the release date.
I would have probably said worse than what you put hehe. Personally, I didn't get that "awe" feeling like I do from most of the MMO's I've played. And really, this didn't feel like an MMO at all. It looked like they tried to put together a game for casual players with a long level grind *yawn*. Through the whole week i played there was no excitement in the game whatsoever.
I don't know what it is, but I can't even play this game longer than 10 minutes without feeling like i'm wasting my time.
"I have seen the future, and it has two wheels."
Just a wacky observation. 1st both WoW and EQ2 have issues with the beta testers, that being said, so far I noticed that that Americans post bad about WoW, and Europeans,ect post bad about EQ2. Maybe not bad, maybe more negatively.
Is it a cultural thing? or that one gaming company is more popular for a particular geographical location?
Yeah. It's a shame, because it has a lot of potential, but they tried to hard to cater to casual gamers in all the wrong ways. I guess no one told them that casual gamers don't want to be treated like tards, they want to be able to log in for an hour or two, and feel they accomplished something. Instead they dumbed everything down to the point of mediocrity, and left the long level grind, and the other time sinks. So neither the casual gamers, nor the power gamers are going to feel they belong. The casual gamers will be siphoned off by WoW, and especially Guild Wars. No clue where the power gamers will go until Vanguard comes out. I guess the people that thought EQ was too complicated might feel at home there.
Sure it'll sell well enough out of the gate just because it's EQ2, but I think the real spots to watch are a month after release, and six months after release.
Clue bus that way --->
Hadn't really noticed. I know there were alot of Germans bitching on the beta forums, because they felt they were being ignored when they brought up issues on their server. Aside from that, I haven't really noticed any particular trend either way.
The only thing I could think of is the Koreans almost cultlike worship of Blizzard games, Starcraft in particular.
Yeah, not only is this game casual player friendly.. But it also seems like it's approved for the kids who ride the short bus to school. It felt like SOE was holding my hand through everything I did in the game.
"Kill 10 badgers over on THE EAST SIDE of antonica... Now It shouldn't be too hard. It is EXACTLY by the right side of the tower. And bring them back to ME, i'll be waiting right HERE for you to bring them back, and I will give you a shiny reward and some cookies. Do you think you can do that for me?"
Ok maybe it wasn't like that but that's what it felt like.
"I have seen the future, and it has two wheels."
Its amazing the contrast of oppinions that are comming out of the woodwork now the NDA has been lifted. I have seen everything from EQ2 lives up to everyones expectation and how wonderful it is.... too... well...like the topic discussion of this thread.
I dont know what to say except the people I know who are in Beta are having a good time. Server Lag has been discussed but this gets refinned until eventually it is no longer a concern. Normal Normal Normal.
Everything else well, I guess thats a very personal objective point of view. I will have to make my own decision after playing the game for myself. But if I can take what I have been told and pass this to you as to what my expectations are... then im really looking forward to it. If it takes me 3 months to make level 20 and I have enjoyed the journey then im in no rush.
the timing on the release date is implied. By the only taking Beta Sign ups to get an idea of how many servers they need and yadda yadda. But a friend of mine has the more accurate information on that i'll have to grab the links from him and post them.
As for the casual gamer comments about the tard treatment. From what I understand from reading stuff from SOE the area where the quests are for "tards" and they hold your hand..are the NEWBIE / Tutorial quests so its only natural they tell you basically everything anyway. Isn't it?? WoW has quests like that as well so its not just EQ2. Personaly anything that keeps me from spending 3 real time days to find a mob for a newbie quest is welcomed. I dont mind spending several days on a quest thats worth something.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
I agree on alot of the things jd269 said. Some of the points are opinion based, but some of the issues in the beta are just unignorable.
The performance/graphics: I don't know what they were thinking, when creating the graphics engine. I was testing this game on a P4 3Ghz, Radeon 9600, 512Mb ram, and it was, to put it short, totally unplayable. I lowered the graphics settings to lowest, but still it was like playing Doom 3 on a Pentium 133. This is not server lag. This is horrible programming. I knew that EQ2 would require good system specs, but this is ridicolous. Whether they did this intentionally to force people to upgrade their systems, I don't know, but the game should be playable on the aforementioned system, albeit with low details.
Despite the lag, I did get to experience the game - due to my persistance. My impression is that this game is just an upgraded version of the original EQ. Naturally, EQ2 is going to be similar to EQ, but i thought they could have added something to the gameplay - they haven't. You run around and you click on mobs and click autoattack, maybe cast a spell once in a while, until you get sick of it. That is basically the entire point of this game.
Its ironic, because as of now the only reason why I would want to play Eq2 instead of WoW, is because of the graphics and huge character customization. When the graphics doesn't work as expected, it fails miserably. WoW will have PvP and class balance, something Sony realized they won't put effort into, because making balanced classes is far more difficult than making good graphics.
The only thing that surprised me positively, was the interface. It's really easy to use and it's alot more appealing than its prequels.
Do not expect this game to be revolutionary in other areas than the graphics. I have to admit that I did not like the original EQ and its gameplay, I thought that there was a good reason for all the hype and all the promises of a revolutionary game, but this is not the case.
This game might be enjoyable, if you are interested in PvE(only), you have a monster of a computer, and you are willing to camp the same places / do the same things over and over again.
-Pi
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"Philosophy is a study that lets us be unhappy more intelligently"
-Anon
Ahh, priceless! That almost perfectly describes (in my opinion) the ethos of SOE, except that you forgot to mention that they will charge you $45 beforehand for this "entertainment", then will charge you an additional $5 for them using the silk top hat and an extra $12 for them using a real rabbit instead of a fake one. Oh, and I forgot that you didn't like your first chair so they charged you an additional $2 per hour to sit in that one you're in now, but that's ok because they threw in a free pair of those nifty 3-d glasses to increase your enjoyment of the performance.
Oh, and I would like to thank Coldmeat and the others who gave their honest opinions of the EQ2 beta instead of the "all is well" posts that the fanboi's were looking for. If you don't speak the truth about the flaws then you are only going to hurt the game worse by ignoring them.
About soloing.. IF YOU WANT TO SOLO, GO QUEST!!!!
The classes START OFF THE SAME. Diversity comes at higher levels. Im sure you didnt get to the higher levels.
I thought you said honest thoughts... You are clearly biased in one way or another.
-I apoligise for the caps, but I beleive they were neccesary.
If you want sunshine blown up your ass, don't read posts reviewing the game.
About questing... IF YOU WANT TO DO ANY WORTHWHILE QUESTS YOU NEED A GROUP!!!! Got it? kthxbye
Yay for diversity at higher levels. I wanna play for months before I get to the fun.
Everyone is biased, and no one is innocent. News at 11.
But thank you for those stunning insights, nevertheless.
Yep, I heard many people that EQII is a let down.
For a game that is all graphics, has sucky gameplay. Well, WoW here I come!
I think you're in the wrong thread.
WoW vs EQ2 thread is ----> that way.