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Official Release Date for Fallen Earth announced

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  • GrumpyMel2GrumpyMel2 Member Posts: 1,832

    Most MMO's these days offer an Open Beta before launch....or some sort of Free Trial after launch. So I am expecting that folks will get the opportunity to see for themselves before they buy.

    Don't want to run into the NDA hammer..... but from my experiences so far I am considering buying it, even though I'm not a big fan of the genre.

    Didn't seem overly buggy compared to most games I've seen at launch. They were there, but I'd say the QA was above average for an MMO launch these days. Mostly seemed to need performance optimization..... but that is usualy the last thing devs work on before a product goes gold. Amount of content seemed pretty good to me.... but again....always a good idea these days to test drive a game before you put any money down for it.... no substitute for trying something for yourself first before you plunk down any $

  • DalmontDalmont Member UncommonPosts: 272

    The game works.

    The game runs well on reasonable machines.

    The game play is fun - and has even more potential.

    Its not a AoC because it hasn't promised anything its not going to deliver. 

    Its not WAR as its not promised anything and then found it doesn't work (fortress/city taking).

    It doesn't seem badly run or unbalanced like DF.

    It has lived up to its promises.

    And yep, it would have been nice for it to be in development for another few months or a year, but then thats EVERY beta I've been in.

    The game deserves a launch and as long as it gets enough subscribers to survive (which I will be one) then I can see this being a very very enjoyable niche game that will fight for my wow raiding time.

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  • Wharg0ulWharg0ul Member Posts: 4,183
    Originally posted by Dalmont


    The game works.
    The game runs well on reasonable machines.
    The game play is fun - and has even more potential.
    Its not a AoC because it hasn't promised anything its not going to deliver. 
    Its not WAR as its not promised anything and then found it doesn't work (fortress/city taking).
    It doesn't seem badly run or unbalanced like DF.
    It has lived up to its promises.
    And yep, it would have been nice for it to be in development for another few months or a year, but then thats EVERY beta I've been in.
    The game deserves a launch and as long as it gets enough subscribers to survive (which I will be one) then I can see this being a very very enjoyable niche game that will fight for my wow raiding time.



     

    I really....REALLY wish I could explain in oh-so-colorful terms just how full of BULLSHIT this is. So I'll just reserve this space for when the NDA drops.

    Or when some miracle changes my mind....which ever comes first.

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  • BarteauxBarteaux Member Posts: 483
    Originally posted by Wharg0ul

    Originally posted by Dalmont


    The game works.
    The game runs well on reasonable machines.
    The game play is fun - and has even more potential.
    Its not a AoC because it hasn't promised anything its not going to deliver. 
    Its not WAR as its not promised anything and then found it doesn't work (fortress/city taking).
    It doesn't seem badly run or unbalanced like DF.
    It has lived up to its promises.
    And yep, it would have been nice for it to be in development for another few months or a year, but then thats EVERY beta I've been in.
    The game deserves a launch and as long as it gets enough subscribers to survive (which I will be one) then I can see this being a very very enjoyable niche game that will fight for my wow raiding time.



     

    I really....REALLY wish I could explain in oh-so-colorful terms just how full of BULLSHIT this is. So I'll just reserve this space for when the NDA drops.

    Or when some miracle changes my mind....which ever comes first.

     

    I know how you feel. I also feel bound by NDA, so I won't go into detail, but I too would like to balance this post by expressing my impressions so far.

    "nerf rock, paper is working as intended."

    - Scissors.


    Head Chop

  • kb056kb056 Member CommonPosts: 423
    Originally posted by Wharg0ul

    Originally posted by Dalmont


    The game works.
    The game runs well on reasonable machines.
    The game play is fun - and has even more potential.
    Its not a AoC because it hasn't promised anything its not going to deliver. 
    Its not WAR as its not promised anything and then found it doesn't work (fortress/city taking).
    It doesn't seem badly run or unbalanced like DF.
    It has lived up to its promises.
    And yep, it would have been nice for it to be in development for another few months or a year, but then thats EVERY beta I've been in.
    The game deserves a launch and as long as it gets enough subscribers to survive (which I will be one) then I can see this being a very very enjoyable niche game that will fight for my wow raiding time.



     

    I really....REALLY wish I could explain in oh-so-colorful terms just how full of BULLSHIT this is. So I'll just reserve this space for when the NDA drops.

    Or when some miracle changes my mind....which ever comes first.

    Your not the only one waiting, when NDA is lifted, bring it. I will be here.

     

     

    Kunra Vong

  • PolarizationPolarization Member Posts: 1,410
    Originally posted by kb056

    Originally posted by Wharg0ul

    Originally posted by Dalmont


    The game works. 
    That should be expected from all games.
    The game runs well on reasonable machines.
    Thats what recomended specifications are for, another thing that should be expected for all games.
    The game play is fun - and has even more potential.
    Game play fun is subjective but all games should have good game play and all games have potential.
    Its not a AoC because it hasn't promised anything its not going to deliver. 
    If you promise very little you dont have much to deliver.
    Its not WAR as its not promised anything and then found it doesn't work (fortress/city taking).
    Again if you promise very little theres not much that needs to work, and wait untill after launch before you declare everything promised is working.
    It doesn't seem badly run or unbalanced like DF.
    Making weak distinctions with Darkfall and Aventurine as a benchmark for this games level of ballance and professionalism is hardly reassuring.
    It has lived up to its promises.
    Again if you promise very little theres not much that needs living up to, and wait untill after launch before you declare everything promised has been lived up to.
    And yep, it would have been nice for it to be in development for another few months or a year, but then thats EVERY beta I've been in.
    So your admiting this  game could do with  another year of development and testing,  ar'nt you supposed to be listing reasons why it will have a successfull launch in 6 weeks time.
    Just becuase many other games have launched in a beta state in the past is not an excuse for this one doing so.
    The game deserves a launch and as long as it gets enough subscribers to survive (which I will be one) then I can see this being a very very enjoyable niche game that will fight for my wow raiding time.
    So the real reason this game is launching in 6 weeks is becuase it needs the subscription money to survive, at least your bieng honest.
    Sounds like this will unfortunalty be yet another very very niche game that might not get enough subscibers to survive that wont have any appreciable effect on the other game you are playing whatsoever.



     

    I really....REALLY wish I could explain in oh-so-colorful terms just how full of BULLSHIT this is. So I'll just reserve this space for when the NDA drops.

    Or when some miracle changes my mind....which ever comes first.

    Your not the only one waiting, when NDA is lifted, bring it. I will be here.

     

     

    Kunra Vong



     

    That list is sad and pathetic and shows how low some peoples expectations are willing to go to remain positve about which ever mediocraty they are currently supporting.

  • DalmontDalmont Member UncommonPosts: 272
    Originally posted by Polarization

    Originally posted by kb056 

    Originally posted by Dalmont


    The game works. 
    That should be expected from all games.
    Yep, but some games shipped don't.
    The game runs well on reasonable machines.
    Thats what recomended specifications are for, another thing that should be expected for all games.
    Agreed, but again, some people complained AoC was too graphically intensive to run on a reasonable machine
    The game play is fun - and has even more potential.
    Game play fun is subjective but all games should have good game play and all games have potential.
    Again agreed, I was adding balance to people saying that it wasn't or had no content.
    Its not a AoC because it hasn't promised anything its not going to deliver. 
    If you promise very little you dont have much to deliver.
     And the problem with that is?
    Its not WAR as its not promised anything and then found it doesn't work (fortress/city taking).
    Again if you promise very little theres not much that needs to work, and wait untill after launch before you declare everything promised is working.
    We shall see at launch then
    It doesn't seem badly run or unbalanced like DF.
    Making weak distinctions with Darkfall and Aventurine as a benchmark for this games level of ballance and professionalism is hardly reassuring.
    I chose the bottom rung game as an example, a lot of people will now point to DF as what not to do for an independent mmo designer, equally will point to EVE as the top end of that ladder.
    It has lived up to its promises.
    Again if you promise very little theres not much that needs living up to, and wait untill after launch before you declare everything promised has been lived up to.
    Sorry I didn't make myself clear, what they've said they would do to me for example, they've done. Also from my knowledge it is everythign they've suggested over the period I've been watching the game.
    And yep, it would have been nice for it to be in development for another few months or a year, but then thats EVERY beta I've been in.
    So your admiting this  game could do with  another year of development and testing,  ar'nt you supposed to be listing reasons why it will have a successfull launch in 6 weeks time.
    Just becuase many other games have launched in a beta state in the past is not an excuse for this one doing so.
    Beta testers never want a game released, they always want more features, new things they've thought up. That tiny little graphics glitch on the grass that comes up once every 600 hours only on one persons computer or that spelling mistake in the online FAQ's. All these things beta testers would say a game is not ready for.
    An MMO, as I'm sure you aware, is an ever changing entity and therefore if you don't release you will never release as the beta testers will come up with more ideas and more features that would be 'cool' 'different'.
    The game deserves a launch and as long as it gets enough subscribers to survive (which I will be one) then I can see this being a very very enjoyable niche game that will fight for my wow raiding time.
    So the real reason this game is launching in 6 weeks is becuase it needs the subscription money to survive, at least your bieng honest.
    Sounds like this will unfortunalty be yet another very very niche game that might not get enough subscibers to survive that wont have any appreciable effect on the other game you are playing whatsoever.
    So I'm suddenly a developer? I have no idea why they are launching it now.
    There is nothing wrong with the base game.
    MMO's survive on subscription numbers that cover costs, that is why I mentioned that.
    As for being niche, yep, its not a fantasy mmo run by a big studio, its not a big franchise, its not spent millions on advertising with brain damaged rock stars on TV. Therefore it will be niche, but not everyone likes WWII strategy games, but there are loads out there.
     
    Originally posted by Wharg0ul




     
    I really....REALLY wish I could explain in oh-so-colorful terms just how full of BULLSHIT this is. So I'll just reserve this space for when the NDA drops.
    Or when some miracle changes my mind....which ever comes first.
    You didn't like it, fair enough. I will hopefully be playing it as I enjoy the game for what it is at the moment.

    Your not the only one waiting, when NDA is lifted, bring it. I will be here.

     

     

    Kunra Vong



     

    That list is sad and pathetic and shows how low some peoples expectations are willing to go to remain positve about which ever mediocraty they are currently supporting.

    Whats the game your looking for? What ultimate do you want? I go into a game and play if I enjoy then thats good. Bejeweled is an example of a very very simple game that is fun to play. No levels there, no sandbox there, no auction house there :P

    A game is what you make it, and if you enjoy it then all well and good.



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  • markt50markt50 Member Posts: 132

    Yay, really looking forward to this, it is a bit of a shame they don't seem to have a bit more time to iron out some of the problems and make it even better for launch, but even so, I'll still take this game over Aion anyday. It's gonna be nice just playing a game that is in a different setting instead of the usual fantasy stuff. I just need to figure out where I can pre-order from now :)

  • Wharg0ulWharg0ul Member Posts: 4,183
    Originally posted by Dalmont

    Originally posted by Polarization

    Originally posted by kb056 

    Originally posted by Wharg0ul




     
    I really....REALLY wish I could explain in oh-so-colorful terms just how full of BULLSHIT this is. So I'll just reserve this space for when the NDA drops.
    Or when some miracle changes my mind....which ever comes first.
    You didn't like it, fair enough. I will hopefully be playing it as I enjoy the game for what it is at the moment.



     





     

    I have NEVER said that I didn't "like" the game. That said, it doesn't mean that I think the game is perfect. We don't HAVE to be either fanbois or trolls, you see...we can be objective.

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  • RondinRondin Member UncommonPosts: 8


    Originally posted by Wharg0ul
    I really....REALLY wish I could explain in oh-so-colorful terms just how full of BULLSHIT this is. So I'll just reserve this space for when the NDA drops.Or when some miracle changes my mind....which ever comes first.

    Originally posted by Barteaux
    I know how you feel. I also feel bound by NDA, so I won't go into detail, but I too would like to balance this post by expressing my impressions so far.

    Okay, here's a miracle for both of you...

    By admitting that you are bound by the game's NDA, you have acknowledged that you are participating in the Beta and have therefore ALREADY BROKEN that same NDA...

    So by all means rant, rave, and flame away, inquiring minds that aren't bound by the NDA want to know the dirty details.

    And remember, this is for posterity so please, try to be specific...

  • TrowarTrowar Member Posts: 147
    Originally posted by Rondin


     
     
     
     
     
    Okay, here's a miracle for both of you...
    By admitting that you are bound by the game's NDA, you have acknowledged that you are participating in the Beta and have therefore ALREADY BROKEN that same NDA...
    So by all means rant, rave, and flame away, inquiring minds that aren't bound by the NDA want to know the dirty details.
    And remember, this is for posterity so please, try to be specific...

     

    You are forgetting the reason behind NDA, any game in creation will have bugs in beta. If anyone want to talk shit about a game then there is no better period than before open beta.

    But NDA means you can not be specific about things that are not official. It is expected that there are bugs, all I can say the bugs are not serious enough for me to stop playing, similar to moderate lag in any game will not make me stop playing. Both things are annoying.

    BuT I can´t tell what kind of bugs there are because that is detailed, not official and and still can fixed. Some might go live with a 09/09/09 release. But there is no way to know what bugs will be fixed and what bugs will remain.

    Bugs isn´t a make or brake deal. The server might be, but that is why the stress test is lasting so long. It isn´t a game for everyone because it is the complete opposite of Lineage 2, so I don´t expect it to sell much in Asia.

    Lineage 2 didn´t do well in Europe and USA, pretty to look on but... It was too much Asia.

    Fallen Earth is more like "too much America", functional graphic rather than pretty and sparkly and lots of guns! (and baseball bats, hammer, swords etc ).

    Lvling doesn´t feel like a grind,  it just happens when you travel the world and discover the game. A far cry from the grinding in other games. Not once did I fell to kill mobs for the sake of exp. There is no need to rush the lvling either, those that do will return to areas they outlvl by far because how the Ap and skill system works. 

     

    Those are the dirty details you want? ;)

     

     

     

  • DalmontDalmont Member UncommonPosts: 272
    Originally posted by Wharg0ul

    Originally posted by Dalmont

    Originally posted by Polarization

    Originally posted by kb056 

    Originally posted by Wharg0ul




     
    I really....REALLY wish I could explain in oh-so-colorful terms just how full of BULLSHIT this is. So I'll just reserve this space for when the NDA drops.
    Or when some miracle changes my mind....which ever comes first.
    You didn't like it, fair enough. I will hopefully be playing it as I enjoy the game for what it is at the moment.



     





     

    I have NEVER said that I didn't "like" the game. That said, it doesn't mean that I think the game is perfect. We don't HAVE to be either fanbois or trolls, you see...we can be objective.

    I am objective, I'm not a fanboi, I know what issues are outstanding and which aren't. But nothing I stated is bullshit for me.

     

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  • Wharg0ulWharg0ul Member Posts: 4,183
    Originally posted by Rondin


     
     
     
     
     
    Okay, here's a miracle for both of you...
    By admitting that you are bound by the game's NDA, you have acknowledged that you are participating in the Beta and have therefore ALREADY BROKEN that same NDA...
    So by all means rant, rave, and flame away, inquiring minds that aren't bound by the NDA want to know the dirty details.
    And remember, this is for posterity so please, try to be specific...



     

    simply admitting that an NDA exists is not admission to being bound by it, it is simply an observation of it's existance...so there :P

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  • AzurealAzureal Member UncommonPosts: 235
    Originally posted by Wharg0ul

    Originally posted by Rondin


     
     
     
     
     
    Okay, here's a miracle for both of you...
    By admitting that you are bound by the game's NDA, you have acknowledged that you are participating in the Beta and have therefore ALREADY BROKEN that same NDA...
    So by all means rant, rave, and flame away, inquiring minds that aren't bound by the NDA want to know the dirty details.
    And remember, this is for posterity so please, try to be specific...



     

    simply admitting that an NDA exists is not admission to being bound by it, it is simply an observation of it's existance...so there :P



     

    Win.

     

    Now gimme some juicy details Ghouly, puh-lease.

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  • SandbloxSandblox Member UncommonPosts: 180

    I will say that I had followed this game when it was first announced a long time ago and then it fell off my radar. Since then I had gotten into the first beta wave once alpha had finished and had given a try here and there over many months.

    This is a game that has some good ideas but was given to little time, to little budget.

    Being that MMORPG like to swing the banhammer a lot I can not dive into the details (would think NDA lift be coming...sometime...heh...)

  • AzurealAzureal Member UncommonPosts: 235
    Originally posted by Sandblox


    I will say that I had followed this game when it was first announced a long time ago and then it fell off my radar. Since then I had gotten into the first beta wave once alpha had finished and had given a try here and there over many months.
    This is a game that has some good ideas but was given to little time, to little budget.
    Being that MMORPG like to swing the banhammer a lot I can not dive into the details (would think NDA lift be coming...sometime...heh...) but check out leakerz.com, there is a very good beta writeup there that explains a whole lot and also why the game is terribly broken sadly.



     

    First you mention how much MMORPG like to swing the banhammer, then you list a beta leak website?

     

    *chortle*

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  • DalmontDalmont Member UncommonPosts: 272
    Originally posted by Sandblox


    I will say that I had followed this game when it was first announced a long time ago and then it fell off my radar. Since then I had gotten into the first beta wave once alpha had finished and had given a try here and there over many months.
    This is a game that has some good ideas but was given to little time, to little budget.
    Being that MMORPG like to swing the banhammer a lot I can not dive into the details (would think NDA lift be coming...sometime...heh...) but check out leakerz.com, there is a very good beta writeup there that explains a whole lot and also why the game is terribly broken sadly.



     

    Well its fairer than some of the reviews, but nowhere does it say its broken.

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  • BrixonBrixon Member UncommonPosts: 259

    It's going to be interesting around here when the NDA comes down.

  • neoterrarneoterrar Member Posts: 512

    I read the review of Darkfall by Eurogamer (part deux) and I don't remember the exact wording,

    but it applies here.

     

    It's the type of game certain people want, and they will play it regardless of its shortfalls.

  • cukimungacukimunga Member UncommonPosts: 2,258
    Originally posted by Wharg0ul

    Originally posted by Rondin


     
     
     
     
     
    Okay, here's a miracle for both of you...
    By admitting that you are bound by the game's NDA, you have acknowledged that you are participating in the Beta and have therefore ALREADY BROKEN that same NDA...
    So by all means rant, rave, and flame away, inquiring minds that aren't bound by the NDA want to know the dirty details.
    And remember, this is for posterity so please, try to be specific...



     

    simply admitting that an NDA exists is not admission to being bound by it, it is simply an observation of it's existance...so there :P

     

    Well you can't be bound by an NDA if you never agreed to one.

  • Wharg0ulWharg0ul Member Posts: 4,183
    Originally posted by cukimunga

    Originally posted by Wharg0ul

    Originally posted by Rondin


     
     
     
     
     
    Okay, here's a miracle for both of you...
    By admitting that you are bound by the game's NDA, you have acknowledged that you are participating in the Beta and have therefore ALREADY BROKEN that same NDA...
    So by all means rant, rave, and flame away, inquiring minds that aren't bound by the NDA want to know the dirty details.
    And remember, this is for posterity so please, try to be specific...



     

    simply admitting that an NDA exists is not admission to being bound by it, it is simply an observation of it's existance...so there :P

     

    Well you can't be bound by an NDA if you never agreed to one.



     

    what exactly are you trying to say or insinuate here??

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  • emotaemota Member UncommonPosts: 413
    Originally posted by Dalmont


    The game works.
    The game runs well on reasonable machines.
    The game play is fun - and has even more potential.
    Its not a AoC because it hasn't promised anything its not going to deliver. 
    Its not WAR as its not promised anything and then found it doesn't work (fortress/city taking).
    It doesn't seem badly run or unbalanced like DF.
    It has lived up to its promises.
    And yep, it would have been nice for it to be in development for another few months or a year, but then thats EVERY beta I've been in.
    The game deserves a launch and as long as it gets enough subscribers to survive (which I will be one) then I can see this being a very very enjoyable niche game that will fight for my wow raiding time.

    Agree

     

  • bobbyjrbobbyjr Member Posts: 119

    I've said it before, and i will say it again. This game is nowhere near ready for release at all. AT best it is in alpha state.  If they release it when they say they will, it will go the way of tabula rasa, and fail miserbaly.  At the very minimum it needs at least 6 months + of more development time. 

  • NagaliumNagalium Member Posts: 26

     From what i've seen from it Fallen Earth will be the next mmorpg that fails, a minor comfort for the developers might be that they arent alone with releasing their game too early. They can cuddle up with funcom, mythic, SoE and adventurine for example.

    Dont they loose more money by releasing it too early then invest more time into the game so the game can stand a chance on the market? Especially now when a couple of other mmo's is scheduled to release at the same time give or take a month or two... If the game isnt polished and got enough content they will just loose all their credibility they got. Too bad tbh think they have some nice idea's but won't buy a copy at release perhaps 6-12 months after if they got a healthy pop.

  • KhalathwyrKhalathwyr Member UncommonPosts: 3,133
    Originally posted by Nagalium


     From what i've seen from it Fallen Earth will be the next mmorpg that fails, a minor comfort for the developers might be that they arent alone with releasing their game too early. They can cuddle up with funcom, mythic, SoE and adventurine for example.
    Dont they loose more money by releasing it too early then invest more time into the game so the game can stand a chance on the market? Especially now when a couple of other mmo's is scheduled to release at the same time give or take a month or two... If the game isnt polished and got enough content they will just loose all their credibility they got. Too bad tbh think they have some nice idea's but won't buy a copy at release perhaps 6-12 months after if they got a healthy pop.

     

    If the game is still running 6-12 months after launch with a healthy population, then it hasn't "failed". Sometimes I think a bunch of you just like to hear the "sound" of your own voices slapping around terms like "fail" without having any realistic knowledge of the meaning of the word.

    AC2. Fail. Tabula Rasa. Fail. Matrix Online. Fail.

    If a game is still running and making money for a company then it hasn't "failed". If you (using "you" in the general sense here) say "fail" based on a comparison of some mythical subscription number more than likely comparing it to WoW, then it shows you have no idea of what success is. If the company is making money and the players enjoy the game, it's a success. Games don't need to win the high school popularity contest to be a success.

    "Many nights, my friend... Many nights I've put a blade to your throat while you were sleeping. Glad I never killed you, Steve. You're alright..."

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