Originally posted by Innferno For me this game has had enough of a chance. It sucked to start with, was given minor improvements over time and never really got any better than that. I challenge you to find an aspect of AC2 that has not been done better in either a current or very-soon-to-be released MMORPG.
Very very simple challenge. The quests in Asheron's Call 2 are superb to all other mmorpgs.
*Ahem* What other MMORPGs have you played? The Quests in DAoC destroy AC2. Many enjoy the "spurt of the moment" quests. They appear out of nowhere, and take an avarage of 15 mins to complete (if you choose to do them). There is no telling where, or when they will happen.
Like this one quest that appered out of nowhere. I was playing my Elf character. Xploooring . I visited this new city/village. This little girl NPC runs up to me, talking about some gang of youths trying to get her to join their gang. But she does not want to join their gang. And if I want to protect her from them. I could walk away and let her fall prey. Or stand and protect her from this gang. While they attack, I have to watch out for her that she doesn't get hurt.
Many quests in DAoC pop up out of nowhere, and suddently. Adding to the feel of a lively world.
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AO is the KING of quests out of all MMORPGs. No other MMORPG comes close. AO revolutionized quests. Many new, and old (like EQ) MMORPGs are copying AO. Players can even make their own quests! There are even some quests which say "Do not kill", "Killing is unnecessary.". You have to use all stealth.
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SWG has some intresting quests. Easily on par with anything AC2 has. One of my favorites is the rescue missions. I once had to rescue a Bothan informant being held captive by a squad of stormtroopers. The only way to succeed was using steath, getting in, then getting out as fast as possible. The army of stormtroopers would easily cut down a group of 12 players. And I was given the quest as solo. (though I could've gotten other players to help if I wanted them to.) Even after rescuing the hostage, I had to protect him from the many NPCs running rampant on the zoneless planet, swim with him through rivers, lakes, go over mountains, valleys ,as I escorted him back to the city, then to the lady NPC in back of the tavern who gave me the quest.
Heh, I was like Aragorn on his quest to escort Frodo LOL!
Then there are the fun treasure map quests. And tons of other very unique quests. Like this miner NPC who wanted me to find and get this super rare ore for him. I had to travel to different planets, surveying different metals for the right one.
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EQ even has some intresting quests. But they are loooong. Accomplishing them is fun though, after spending days, and even weeks trying to finnish them.
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Runescape (yes the one and only.... Runescape) has many intresting quests. Many are 100% different from each other. Most are soo unique that they are not in any other MMORPGs.... except maybe SWG/
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AC2 has OK quests. But they are at best equal to what other MMORPGs have to offer.
Originally posted by Maxxx ROFL Xplororor... AO has quests? Very few and they are very weak. When was the last time you played this game?Maxxx - www.L2orphus.com Moderator
They are called missions & they are more or less random (can adjust with sliders) with a random instanced map. There are some "item-quests" but only a few are good. The last 2 expansions to AO ignored the mission mechanics & went Evercamp instead
Originally posted by JelloB2000 Originally posted by Maxxx ROFL Xplororor... AO has quests? Very few and they are very weak. When was the last time you played this game?Maxxx - www.L2orphus.com Moderator
They are called missions & they are more or less random (can adjust with sliders) with a random instanced map. There are some "item-quests" but only a few are good. The last 2 expansions to AO ignored the mission mechanics & went Evercamp instead
Originally posted by yowoe AC2 is a really great game- and how could you not like the mounts? They were great! If there's one thing I don't like, it's having to waste an hour walking around when mounts can fit very well in the story line. It would be cooler to have permanent mounts like pets, but I guess that was stretching the line for the developers. MOUNTS RULE!
AC 2 mounts were a huge failure. Everyone was expecting real mounts, not a run speed buff with a graphic, that to boot stops you from engaging combat while on. AC 2 mounts are nothing more then a buff that anyone can craft the "potion" to cast. You can't engage in combat while on them, you have to click them off to do many things, they are time limited and require money for every single use. Thats not a mount, a mount is your steed, the other half of your persona in an adventure. He is your companion, you ride his back into combat and you use him to sprint across vast tracts of land to relay an urgent message. What did turbine give? Horned lizards that can swim and bail out in 20, 40, or 60 minutes (or whatever timerates they are). EQ did better then that before Turbine even taking into consideration all the bugs and pains of EQ mounts in the beginning
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Originally posted by Maxxx ROFL Xplororor... AO has quests? Very few and they are very weak. When was the last time you played this game?Maxxx - www.L2orphus.com Moderator
at the time when AO came out missions were exactly what everyone was begging for and rather revolutionary. Its unlimited questing anytime that you can get whenever you want and finish in an hour. I think AO does deserve alot of credit for pioneering this.
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its been awhile since I played, its good to hear they did atleat something with that.
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Theres also the rally to aquire the golden mount. A mount with the speed of the Linvak mount but the looks of the tyrant mounts. Lasts forever and I believe(still trying to win my 7 rally's) the use of the mount doesn't take focus.
The game has gotten a ton better. I've been playing since ~2 months after release so have been around for good and bad times. With the introduction of the Deck of Power and the other Trump melds people can solo really well so the complaint about solo capability is outdated and useless to bring up. I've seen FI's bring in just short of 15 billion XP solo, not an easy feat since they can't debuff mob AR like they once could.
The game still focuses heavily on groups, but once again grouping doesn't make or break a game. If that was the case then FFXI wouldn't have 500K subscribers worldwide. I've never really had an issue even with todays low populations, finding parties to either quest with or just hunt with.
I have only ever had problem with lag one time and it seemed to have been caused by the GeForce drivers. I went ATI and have never had a problem since. Only time I have terribly lag in Eidilon where half the server shows up with all the particle effects in full bloom. Thats understandable and most expect it...Seems to be getting better though. Last Eid quest I went on there was very little lag until near the end where the bloodstones were starting to respawn on us.
The introduction of Crafting 2.0 and the vendors have brought alot of life back to the cities. Cavendo and Ikeras is always filled with crafters of all levels and good are always being offered or sold on /ct. Crafting now at least serves a purpose and anyone has the ability to get mass gold in little time by mining, crafting, butchering, etc. No longer are people living from gold only from kills.
Overall the game has improved but its all the players on the ign boards and else where that constantly talk bad about it though they haven't played it in the last 6 months or so. Right now the game seems to have taken up a hibernation period waiting for the Xpac. Seems like Turbine is going to give it a big push to re-release the game.
Originally posted by golembane Theres also the rally to aquire the golden mount. A mount with the speed of the Linvak mount but the looks of the tyrant mounts. Lasts forever and I believe(still trying to win my 7 rally's) the use of the mount doesn't take focus. The game has gotten a ton better. I've been playing since ~2 months after release so have been around for good and bad times. With the introduction of the Deck of Power and the other Trump melds people can solo really well so the complaint about solo capability is outdated and useless to bring up. I've seen FI's bring in just short of 15 billion XP solo, not an easy feat since they can't debuff mob AR like they once could. The game still focuses heavily on groups, but once again grouping doesn't make or break a game. If that was the case then FFXI wouldn't have 500K subscribers worldwide. I've never really had an issue even with todays low populations, finding parties to either quest with or just hunt with. I have only ever had problem with lag one time and it seemed to have been caused by the GeForce drivers. I went ATI and have never had a problem since. Only time I have terribly lag in Eidilon where half the server shows up with all the particle effects in full bloom. Thats understandable and most expect it...Seems to be getting better though. Last Eid quest I went on there was very little lag until near the end where the bloodstones were starting to respawn on us. The introduction of Crafting 2.0 and the vendors have brought alot of life back to the cities. Cavendo and Ikeras is always filled with crafters of all levels and good are always being offered or sold on /ct. Crafting now at least serves a purpose and anyone has the ability to get mass gold in little time by mining, crafting, butchering, etc. No longer are people living from gold only from kills. Overall the game has improved but its all the players on the ign boards and else where that constantly talk bad about it though they haven't played it in the last 6 months or so. Right now the game seems to have taken up a hibernation period waiting for the Xpac. Seems like Turbine is going to give it a big push to re-release the game.38 PLD/WAR FFXI 7X GM Fencing Paladin UO 51 Juggernaught AC2
I can respect everything you said, and I am glad to hear its better now. But how many times do you expect to put their money forth for Turbine to see if they got the game right yet? I have tried AC 2 on 3 seperate occasions to see if it was better yet and something I would be interested in, it wasn't.
Not sure what you meant by mounts not being a focus of the game. I can't think of a single game where mounts are a focus. It wasn't about them being a focus, its about being able to have a mount. And how well the designers made that mount. Its not about making a game about mounts.
Never had an issue with solo play, everytime I played thats all there was. Solo, solo, and solo some more. Occasionally hit a group to do a dungeon if I could find one.
I never had lag in that game. Even before they ruined the map and removed about 75% of the tree's. And yes, thats not an exxageration, I was there the day before and the day after of the tree removal to fix the pathing problems with the game. The lush forests were awesome and they were reduced to fields.
Thanks for updating me on how the game is going. I wish I could have went back to AC 1 and felt it had improved like AC 2 apparently has.
Also, please do consider, Turbine did earn alot of their lumps with AC 2, everyone gave them a fair shot, I don't recall a bunch of negative hype before it came out to some horrid degree. It was only after everyone tried it and saw how it was that the bad hype started. They paid their money for it, they beta tested on the client base, and no one liked it. To say that its everyone fault for complaining on a game that took a year plus to get better after launch isn't right. Its taken far too many drastic reworks to get it right and over far too long a period of time. Turbine is just gonna have to stand the test of time and earn their reputation back.
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I think he meant that gold mount doesnt need any focus when u use it as ordinary hero mount does.. it seems that from ur 3 tries none of them was in the last year and a half
Originally posted by Temid I think he meant that gold mount doesnt need any focus when u use it as ordinary hero mount does.. it seems that from ur 3 tries none of them was in the last year and a half Justice is blind.
actually yes, the last time was within that time. I just didnt look deep into the changes of the game. I went immediatly to the game play and tried it instead of reading all the patch logs from the last time til that current time. I gave it a month, played it alittle, still felt more or less the same to me. Since most of my complaints about it were not class or detail related even now for me the game would probably be under par to me.
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aha.. well, AC2 is quite a different game then it was 1 and a half years ago. It still has its share of problems (most of them start at lvl 50 or 60+, where content ends), but if u start it from fresh and start playing it from lvl 1.. then its a great game. Was best in its genre on market till not long ago, i havent tried EQ2 and WoW, so cant comment there. And if x-pack will be as good as they say then its definitly worth trying it.. If u already tried it and decided its not a game for u.. well.. then its not a game for u. No1 said we all have to like same stuff.
I wouldnt consider playing it again unless the server populations severly booms, well wouldn't consider trying it again unless that happens. If that ever does, I may give it a 4th of 5th try, whatever count I am on.
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AC2 has come along way. I was a Beta tester and quit after about 3 months because of lack of content. Basically it just got boring. Since then I have played every MMORPG I could get my hands on including Horizons, EQII, WOW, AO, EVE, SWG, Ryzom and a few others that are in beta now. Everything seems to lack the feeling of AC. Its been awhile for me but I cant wait for the xpac to see what else gets fixed.
Usually its too litlle too late for me, but Im glad I came back. I too hope the populations increase.
I'd have to say, that after playing all these new mmos which supposedly are the gods of mmorpgdom, WoW/EQ2...Loved hearing it before they came, and now that they are here I still laugh.
I'm not saying eithers a bad game...wait ill say that about eq2, but not WoW.
WoW is a decent game... for 3 months....Then the boredom starts. WoW the king of repetitive boring gameplay, no offense but it'll bore anyone to tears after level 40.. Not to mention the lackluster pvp that nearly crashes the servers everyone tries to do a raid....
A game based off of quests....that never change, level 1 kill 12 <insert mob name>, level 40 kill 12 <insert mob name>... Thats it.... toss in some escort missions, and item gathering ones. Not to mention they got a rogue quest area that currently has no purpse...
Go play alliance from level 1-20 make sure to deadmines. There you go, you just experienced ALL of the quests in WoW, the only thing that changes is location and skins.
Give me reasonable grinding anyday with quest options.... When making a game that relies 90% on quests that get boring after 20 levels......
Not to mentions WoWs complete sucky attitude on crafting skills "crafted items were never meant to be the best... just decent enough to fill spots for low levels.
Anywhos the fact is, with mmorpgs there are NO better games then ac2 out. Just different ones.
I quit because noones playing!.... best noob line ever. Or "ya ill quit, and come back when more people play" ahaha.... Okay ya.... you know if everyone who said that, would play the game again right now, the servers would be full?
Overall its a solid game, Sure there are some problems. But meh people..... It's not as bad as alot of people are claiming it to be.
And to a previous statement. every part of ac2 is better in other games. That is correct.
But no one game COMPLETELY, overshadows ALL features of ac2. OVERALL its a solid game. When people start disecting it and comparing each part to other games THATS where you get problems
Lag is always a problem in my opinion. That is one of the big problems with MMORPGs, and this one is no different.
If fact, the better the game is, the more lag there normally is - to do with the number of players online. This means the better the game, the more the lag.
Asheron's Call 2 makes this a problem, and even more so because they seem to have slow servers! :P
I don't like this game much - I don't have it, but I played it at a friend's house...
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I played AC2 for 8 months and everyday I had fun. I was level 49 when Arramora map generated. Then the fun continuing until level 55 and then the struggling time went up to level 58(almost level 59).
AC2 is really worthy the money and most importantly is FUN to play.
So I will give high score to AC2 from Level 1 until level 50(hero class)
It's really a role playing MMO, you can build your character performance with exp. I sold my account for $120 and someone offered to $160 at the time.
But this game do not have economy, however, I spent 4 millions to buy all different mirras and I still have about 2M left to buyer.
Compare with today's MMORPG, AC2 might too old now, however, it was really a good game. Now, it's the time for WOW, Blizzard got so much money in their account so they will do anything and everything to keep players cheer up.
Well first off, this game as been out like 2 years, it doesn't have top graphics to some games like SWG and Lineage 2 in terms of character definition and moves, but it's very good in fantasy terms, and if you really jack up graphic settings, well, it has quite good definition, the engine is good, but I doubt they will upgrade the graphics to something gorgeous.
The quests, well, if you want a game with bunchload of quests, this is it, there are quests for evey level and, most are repeatable, so if you actually play this game a bit, you'll see people helping newbie just for kicks every month, and huge amounts of players gathering for high end quests, that you can join....well just by being there..you don't even need to talk to anyone sometimes.
The costumer support is "ok", the comunity is good and the this game gets content updates every month, and this awesome, really rare to see in a MMORPG these days, I mean they actually add items and quests every month....
The level cap is 150, and by the time of this post, I'm guessing the max they should have is a level 82, so for those guys that like to grind, well you can grind it, or do like normal people that level slower just by doing some quests, well most people would take advantage of the 1 hour double xp bonus every day you get by being a hero (over level 45) also.
Now some bad stuff, other than the not so good graphics, is the craft, where everyone can master craft everything if they put their hands into it, meaning some crafters do everything by themselves, no need for economy and trading for materials...and...most stuff to craft later on is sooo expensive that is nuts.
Other stuff is although there are shops (bazar), there is still no housing or storage, so if you want to keep alot of items, you have to create characters and "mule" the items....by dropping them on the floor or telling a friend to keep them while you switch characters...
I'm not playing AC2 because I love crafting and I moved to the best crafting game (SWG) with houses and stuff, but I recomend AC2 to any player without high graphic realism expectations (AC2 > WoW for comparison) and though AC2 has low population atm, it has a new expansion coming out and it has alot of stuff to do, solo or group.
Just curious, for those who play currently, how group dependent is AC2?
I don't ask because I like to solo per se, but I realize that with a game with as small a population as AC2 has currently, there will probably be more times than not where one would have to 'go it alone'.
For "some" quests you need a group if you want to do them when you reach base level to do them, but even with low population this is easily done.
This game rewards feudal ranks, in order to join a guild you have to "swear" to someone (can reverse it anytime), where your "patron" will earn some exp as you hunt (no loss for you), just like Ac1, this has it's goods and bads but well, just brings comunity way better and helping people a rewarding act.
Originally posted by Storm. Very very simple challenge. The quests in Asheron's Call 2 are superb to all other mmorpgs. I actually just posted about this earlier today because someone had asked me as well what makes Ac2 stand out. I haven't found a game that is comparable to Ac2 in terms of quests. Ac2 takes the common, every day, quest and puts in an innovative stance to it. For example there is one quest called Bringing down the Catacombs and what it basically is is a find and kill quest. You go into the dungeon (which requires certain classes to manipulate items into the proper form) and work your way down to find the egg chamber. Once inside the egg chamber there are 8 pillars which are destroyed in order to "collapse" the dungeon. After each pillar is destroyed more olthoi swarm into the chambers to attack your party/ies. After all pillars have been destroyed the roof collapses (in form of falling rock animations from the ceilng and a DoT) and the characters have to run and hit a portal before they die.
For delivery quests Ac2 sometimes sends you through puzzles involving both jumping and thinking processes in order to get to your goal. When fighting Wharu players must use an item from another quest (which works as an armor debuff towards those monsters.. mabey Wharu too) which prevents Wharu from attacking them with an attack that does basically double the amount of damage to a player as they have health. * ---- * ---- *---- *Wharu Each * represents this item and it provides a barrier of safety from the spell. As players work their way up they have to use more in order to protect themselves from his devestating attacks.
The quests and content is the reason I have stayed in Ac2 and not left to somewhere else. No other mmorpg(save perhaps Ac1, I've never played it), including World of Warcraft (quality over quantity they say.. well definately not with respect to their quests), has come close to touching the calibur of quests that Ac2 has presented and it the main reason why I stay in that game. The only type of quest that Ac2 is not prolific in would be what people consider "dungeon raids" basically where you spend hours inside of one area trying to work your way to the boss. Ac2 has a couple that can be loosely classified as this, but they aren't as good as other MMOs in that respect. I also find the combat system more entertaining than other mmos- but that is simply because I am a fps/mmorpg player and not strictly an rpg player. It seems that more often than not, fps/mmorpg players want faster combat with little to no downtime. WoW has medium speed and low to medium downtime.. I'm not sure what isn't satisfying me in WoW totally....it might deal wiht how everything is identical as you advance =s I play a warlock.
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Very very simple challenge. The quests in Asheron's Call 2 are superb to all other mmorpgs.
*Ahem* What other MMORPGs have you played? The Quests in DAoC destroy AC2. Many enjoy the "spurt of the moment" quests. They appear out of nowhere, and take an avarage of 15 mins to complete (if you choose to do them). There is no telling where, or when they will happen.
Like this one quest that appered out of nowhere. I was playing my Elf character. Xploooring
. I visited this new city/village. This little girl NPC runs up to me, talking about some gang of youths trying to get her to join their gang. But she does not want to join their gang. And if I want to protect her from them. I could walk away and let her fall prey. Or stand and protect her from this gang. While they attack, I have to watch out for her that she doesn't get hurt.
Many quests in DAoC pop up out of nowhere, and suddently. Adding to the feel of a lively world.
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AO is the KING of quests out of all MMORPGs. No other MMORPG comes close. AO revolutionized quests. Many new, and old (like EQ) MMORPGs are copying AO. Players can even make their own quests! There are even some quests which say "Do not kill", "Killing is unnecessary.". You have to use all stealth.
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SWG has some intresting quests. Easily on par with anything AC2 has. One of my favorites is the rescue missions. I once had to rescue a Bothan informant being held captive by a squad of stormtroopers. The only way to succeed was using steath, getting in, then getting out as fast as possible. The army of stormtroopers would easily cut down a group of 12 players. And I was given the quest as solo. (though I could've gotten other players to help if I wanted them to.) Even after rescuing the hostage, I had to protect him from the many NPCs running rampant on the zoneless planet, swim with him through rivers, lakes, go over mountains, valleys ,as I escorted him back to the city, then to the lady NPC in back of the tavern who gave me the quest.
Heh, I was like Aragorn on his quest to escort Frodo LOL!
Then there are the fun treasure map quests. And tons of other very unique quests. Like this miner NPC who wanted me to find and get this super rare ore for him. I had to travel to different planets, surveying different metals for the right one.
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EQ even has some intresting quests. But they are loooong. Accomplishing them is fun though, after spending days, and even weeks trying to finnish them.
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Runescape (yes the one and only.... Runescape) has many intresting quests. Many are 100% different from each other. Most are soo unique that they are not in any other MMORPGs.... except maybe SWG/
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AC2 has OK quests. But they are at best equal to what other MMORPGs have to offer.
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AO has quests? Very few and they are very weak.
When was the last time you played this game?
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They are called missions & they are more or less random (can adjust with sliders) with a random instanced map. There are some "item-quests" but only a few are good. The last 2 expansions to AO ignored the mission mechanics & went Evercamp instead
They are called missions & they are more or less random (can adjust with sliders) with a random instanced map. There are some "item-quests" but only a few are good. The last 2 expansions to AO ignored the mission mechanics & went Evercamp instead
yes i know lol i played AO for 3 years...
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AC 2 mounts were a huge failure. Everyone was expecting real mounts, not a run speed buff with a graphic, that to boot stops you from engaging combat while on. AC 2 mounts are nothing more then a buff that anyone can craft the "potion" to cast. You can't engage in combat while on them, you have to click them off to do many things, they are time limited and require money for every single use. Thats not a mount, a mount is your steed, the other half of your persona in an adventure. He is your companion, you ride his back into combat and you use him to sprint across vast tracts of land to relay an urgent message. What did turbine give? Horned lizards that can swim and bail out in 20, 40, or 60 minutes (or whatever timerates they are). EQ did better then that before Turbine even taking into consideration all the bugs and pains of EQ mounts in the beginning
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"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
at the time when AO came out missions were exactly what everyone was begging for and rather revolutionary. Its unlimited questing anytime that you can get whenever you want and finish in an hour. I think AO does deserve alot of credit for pioneering this.
- Fadeus Hawkwood
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
"Horned lizards that can swim and bail out in 20, 40, or 60 minutes (or whatever timerates they are). "
- Fadeus Hawkwood
This isn't exactly true. Once you acquire the Hero Mount, time is unlimited. I believe the Hero Mount quest is somewhere around lvl 51.
its been awhile since I played, its good to hear they did atleat something with that.
- Fadeus Hawkwood
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Theres also the rally to aquire the golden mount. A mount with the speed of the Linvak mount but the looks of the tyrant mounts. Lasts forever and I believe(still trying to win my 7 rally's) the use of the mount doesn't take focus.
The game has gotten a ton better. I've been playing since ~2 months after release so have been around for good and bad times. With the introduction of the Deck of Power and the other Trump melds people can solo really well so the complaint about solo capability is outdated and useless to bring up. I've seen FI's bring in just short of 15 billion XP solo, not an easy feat since they can't debuff mob AR like they once could.
The game still focuses heavily on groups, but once again grouping doesn't make or break a game. If that was the case then FFXI wouldn't have 500K subscribers worldwide. I've never really had an issue even with todays low populations, finding parties to either quest with or just hunt with.
I have only ever had problem with lag one time and it seemed to have been caused by the GeForce drivers. I went ATI and have never had a problem since. Only time I have terribly lag in Eidilon where half the server shows up with all the particle effects in full bloom. Thats understandable and most expect it...Seems to be getting better though. Last Eid quest I went on there was very little lag until near the end where the bloodstones were starting to respawn on us.
The introduction of Crafting 2.0 and the vendors have brought alot of life back to the cities. Cavendo and Ikeras is always filled with crafters of all levels and good are always being offered or sold on /ct. Crafting now at least serves a purpose and anyone has the ability to get mass gold in little time by mining, crafting, butchering, etc. No longer are people living from gold only from kills.
Overall the game has improved but its all the players on the ign boards and else where that constantly talk bad about it though they haven't played it in the last 6 months or so. Right now the game seems to have taken up a hibernation period waiting for the Xpac. Seems like Turbine is going to give it a big push to re-release the game.
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51 Juggernaught AC2
I can respect everything you said, and I am glad to hear its better now. But how many times do you expect to put their money forth for Turbine to see if they got the game right yet? I have tried AC 2 on 3 seperate occasions to see if it was better yet and something I would be interested in, it wasn't.
Not sure what you meant by mounts not being a focus of the game. I can't think of a single game where mounts are a focus. It wasn't about them being a focus, its about being able to have a mount. And how well the designers made that mount. Its not about making a game about mounts.
Never had an issue with solo play, everytime I played thats all there was. Solo, solo, and solo some more. Occasionally hit a group to do a dungeon if I could find one.
I never had lag in that game. Even before they ruined the map and removed about 75% of the tree's. And yes, thats not an exxageration, I was there the day before and the day after of the tree removal to fix the pathing problems with the game. The lush forests were awesome and they were reduced to fields.
Thanks for updating me on how the game is going. I wish I could have went back to AC 1 and felt it had improved like AC 2 apparently has.
Also, please do consider, Turbine did earn alot of their lumps with AC 2, everyone gave them a fair shot, I don't recall a bunch of negative hype before it came out to some horrid degree. It was only after everyone tried it and saw how it was that the bad hype started. They paid their money for it, they beta tested on the client base, and no one liked it. To say that its everyone fault for complaining on a game that took a year plus to get better after launch isn't right. Its taken far too many drastic reworks to get it right and over far too long a period of time. Turbine is just gonna have to stand the test of time and earn their reputation back.
- Fadeus Hawkwood
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
I think he meant that gold mount doesnt need any focus when u use it as ordinary hero mount does.. it seems that from ur 3 tries none of them was in the last year and a half
Justice is blind.
Justice is blind.
actually yes, the last time was within that time. I just didnt look deep into the changes of the game. I went immediatly to the game play and tried it instead of reading all the patch logs from the last time til that current time. I gave it a month, played it alittle, still felt more or less the same to me. Since most of my complaints about it were not class or detail related even now for me the game would probably be under par to me.
- Fadeus Hawkwood
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
aha.. well, AC2 is quite a different game then it was 1 and a half years ago. It still has its share of problems (most of them start at lvl 50 or 60+, where content ends), but if u start it from fresh and start playing it from lvl 1.. then its a great game. Was best in its genre on market till not long ago, i havent tried EQ2 and WoW, so cant comment there. And if x-pack will be as good as they say then its definitly worth trying it..
If u already tried it and decided its not a game for u.. well.. then its not a game for u. No1 said we all have to like same stuff.
Justice is blind.
Justice is blind.
I wouldnt consider playing it again unless the server populations severly booms, well wouldn't consider trying it again unless that happens. If that ever does, I may give it a 4th of 5th try, whatever count I am on.
- Fadeus Hawkwood
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
AC2 has come along way. I was a Beta tester and quit after about 3 months because of lack of content. Basically it just got boring. Since then I have played every MMORPG I could get my hands on including Horizons, EQII, WOW, AO, EVE, SWG, Ryzom and a few others that are in beta now. Everything seems to lack the feeling of AC. Its been awhile for me but I cant wait for the xpac to see what else gets fixed.
Usually its too litlle too late for me, but Im glad I came back. I too hope the populations increase.
I'd have to say, that after playing all these new mmos which supposedly are the gods of mmorpgdom, WoW/EQ2...Loved hearing it before they came, and now that they are here I still laugh.
I'm not saying eithers a bad game...wait ill say that about eq2, but not WoW.
WoW is a decent game... for 3 months....Then the boredom starts. WoW the king of repetitive boring gameplay, no offense but it'll bore anyone to tears after level 40.. Not to mention the lackluster pvp that nearly crashes the servers everyone tries to do a raid....
A game based off of quests....that never change, level 1 kill 12 <insert mob name>, level 40 kill 12 <insert mob name>... Thats it.... toss in some escort missions, and item gathering ones. Not to mention they got a rogue quest area that currently has no purpse...
Go play alliance from level 1-20 make sure to deadmines. There you go, you just experienced ALL of the quests in WoW, the only thing that changes is location and skins.
Give me reasonable grinding anyday with quest options.... When making a game that relies 90% on quests that get boring after 20 levels......
Not to mentions WoWs complete sucky attitude on crafting skills "crafted items were never meant to be the best... just decent enough to fill spots for low levels
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Anywhos the fact is, with mmorpgs there are NO better games then ac2 out. Just different ones.
I quit because noones playing!.... best noob line ever. Or "ya ill quit, and come back when more people play" ahaha.... Okay ya.... you know if everyone who said that, would play the game again right now, the servers would be full?
Overall its a solid game, Sure there are some problems. But meh people..... It's not as bad as alot of people are claiming it to be.
And to a previous statement. every part of ac2 is better in other games. That is correct.
But no one game COMPLETELY, overshadows ALL features of ac2. OVERALL its a solid game. When people start disecting it and comparing each part to other games THATS where you get problems
Lag is always a problem in my opinion. That is one of the big problems with MMORPGs, and this one is no different.
If fact, the better the game is, the more lag there normally is - to do with the number of players online. This means the better the game, the more the lag.
Asheron's Call 2 makes this a problem, and even more so because they seem to have slow servers! :P
I don't like this game much - I don't have it, but I played it at a friend's house...
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"Friends may come and go, but enemies accumulate"
Looking forward to: Aion
Played: WoW, Guild Wars
I played AC2 for 8 months and everyday I had fun. I was level 49 when Arramora map generated. Then the fun continuing until level 55 and then the struggling time went up to level 58(almost level 59).
AC2 is really worthy the money and most importantly is FUN to play.
So I will give high score to AC2 from Level 1 until level 50(hero class)
It's really a role playing MMO, you can build your character performance with exp. I sold my account for $120 and someone offered to $160 at the time.
But this game do not have economy, however, I spent 4 millions to buy all different mirras and I still have about 2M left to buyer.
Compare with today's MMORPG, AC2 might too old now, however, it was really a good game. Now, it's the time for WOW, Blizzard got so much money in their account so they will do anything and everything to keep players cheer up.
Well first off, this game as been out like 2 years, it doesn't have top graphics to some games like SWG and Lineage 2 in terms of character definition and moves, but it's very good in fantasy terms, and if you really jack up graphic settings, well, it has quite good definition, the engine is good, but I doubt they will upgrade the graphics to something gorgeous.
The quests, well, if you want a game with bunchload of quests, this is it, there are quests for evey level and, most are repeatable, so if you actually play this game a bit, you'll see people helping newbie just for kicks every month, and huge amounts of players gathering for high end quests, that you can join....well just by being there..you don't even need to talk to anyone sometimes.
The costumer support is "ok", the comunity is good and the this game gets content updates every month, and this awesome, really rare to see in a MMORPG these days, I mean they actually add items and quests every month....
The level cap is 150, and by the time of this post, I'm guessing the max they should have is a level 82, so for those guys that like to grind, well you can grind it, or do like normal people that level slower just by doing some quests, well most people would take advantage of the 1 hour double xp bonus every day you get by being a hero (over level 45) also.
Now some bad stuff, other than the not so good graphics, is the craft, where everyone can master craft everything if they put their hands into it, meaning some crafters do everything by themselves, no need for economy and trading for materials...and...most stuff to craft later on is sooo expensive that is nuts.
Other stuff is although there are shops (bazar), there is still no housing or storage, so if you want to keep alot of items, you have to create characters and "mule" the items....by dropping them on the floor or telling a friend to keep them while you switch characters...
I'm not playing AC2 because I love crafting and I moved to the best crafting game (SWG) with houses and stuff, but I recomend AC2 to any player without high graphic realism expectations (AC2 > WoW for comparison) and though AC2 has low population atm, it has a new expansion coming out and it has alot of stuff to do, solo or group.
Forgot to add this game also requires skills to quest and kill creatures, if you just stand there you'll get dead.
Some skill have 2-7 seconds resets and you can combo them into fast killing machine, this combat is FAST paced.
Just curious, for those who play currently, how group dependent is AC2?
I don't ask because I like to solo per se, but I realize that with a game with as small a population as AC2 has currently, there will probably be more times than not where one would have to 'go it alone'.
Am I right about this?
nah groups are only required for questing and only take 9 people fora majority of quests, which is pretty easy to find on the white servers....
On PvP servers finding groups is a problem.
For "some" quests you need a group if you want to do them when you reach base level to do them, but even with low population this is easily done.
This game rewards feudal ranks, in order to join a guild you have to "swear"
to someone (can reverse it anytime), where your "patron" will earn some exp as you hunt (no loss for you), just like Ac1, this has it's goods and bads but well, just brings comunity way better and helping people a rewarding act.