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MMORPGs on Mac
Holgar
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I'm thinking of getting a Mac but want to be sure that Windows-only MMORPGs can run well on them. Does anyone have experience playing, say Age of Conan or Warhammer or others on Windows running on a Mac, either through Boot Camp or Parallels? Also, anyone tried this on a Mac Mini? Am debating between a Mini and IMac. Thanks for any advice!
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You can even dual boot with windows if you felt like it. But if your primary goal is to play games why not just get a PC. Macs are way over priced a PC can do anything a mac can do plus play all the latest games. If you know anything about computers and viruses you can have a PC and never get one, Ive been virus free for years now.
IMHO Macs are a ripoff you can build a PC with the same specs as a mac for less. I use music programs , I know people who edit and encode video and even do live djing with traktor live all on a PC and it works flawlessly. I really don't see why everyone uses a mac, I guess they are rich and have money to do so.
But hey if your really want a mac then go for it, don't let me stop you.
I currently have two Macs. One is an Intel iMac and the other is the Unibody MacBook Pro.
If you are going to be doing some hardcore gaming, i.e. downloading/installing games that take up a lot of memory, I would definitaly get the iMac.
I am currently running Vista Home Premium through Boot Camp on my iMac, and I must say, it is awesome! (The Boot Camp is awesome) Once you get your Mac, the Boot Camp setup is straight forward. You slide a bar to select how much memory you want to give to Windows then, install Windows. The only draw-back to this is that you need to purchase your own version of Windows. It can be XP, Vista, or even Windows 7.
For my MacBook Pro, I have run EVE on it, so even with 2 GB of RAM, it ran the game very easily, and with High Graphics also.
I've played all of the MMOs in my sig on a Mac using Bootcamp except for WoW and EVE. WoW and EVE have Mac-native clients. They all ran well except for AoC, but that was on a few year old iMac. I've been running VG and Ryzom on my Macbook Pro using Bootcamp and the performance is really good.
If you're concerned mainly about game performance, then I'd suggest not getting a Mac mini. And make sure the iMac has a decent GPU with at least 256 MB RAM. 512 preferably. If you're going to be using it as a gaming machine mainly, then I'd recommend not even getting a Mac.
Current: None
Played: WoW, CoX, SWG, LotRO, EVE, AoC, VG, CO, Ryzom, DF, WAR
Tried: Lineage2, Dofus, EQ2, CoS, FE, UO, Wurm, Wakfu
Future: The Repopulation, ArcheAge, Black Desert, EQN
You get a Mac to have easy access to Mac tools, Or to be a stuck up pompos computer user.
I find it amazing that by 2020 first world countries will be competing to get immigrants.
You can even dual boot with windows if you felt like it. But if your primary goal is to play games why not just get a PC. Macs are way over priced a PC can do anything a mac can do plus play all the latest games. If you know anything about computers and viruses you can have a PC and never get one, Ive been virus free for years now.
IMHO Macs are a ripoff you can build a PC with the same specs as a mac for less. I use music programs , I know people who edit and encode video and even do live djing with traktor live all on a PC and it works flawlessly. I really don't see why everyone uses a mac, I guess they are rich and have money to do so.
But hey if your really want a mac then go for it, don't let me stop you.
Sometimes computer purchases aren't just clearly about the money/savings etc. In many cases if specced pound for pound, you can get a MAC for less than most PC counterparts. Granted you can build a great gaming machine for less if you know where and what to get.
Personally I own both, as well as work on both. The MAC will continue to get my money as it has a solid design, current hardware and the ability to run both Windows and OS X. The MAC gives me in a sense 2 computers for the price of one, not to mention OS X and the (free) software that accompanies it.
Not every gamer just games, and not all work is done in a PC environment. They both have their uses and they both can do just about what the other can as well. I find a higher value in MAC's and thats why I buy them.
As for the OP, the MAC should be able to handle most MMORPG's assuming you run them in Bootcamp. Parallels is nice and I use it here at work, but I have yet to play a game that works within that virtualization software. There are some AAA MMORPG's that work for the MAC like EVE and City of Hero's which are native clients and don't require Windows.
Also with services like Gaikai coming out, the whole platform dependencies will be a thing of the past and something to look forward to.
Ive been gaming on macs for years now and love it. I love OSX and all of the perks that come with owning a mac (the great warranties, amazing customers service straight through the apple store, the apple store, the fact that every component inside a mac except the processor and gfx card and made by apple to work seamlessly with everything else in the machine etc) and on top of it I can run windows flawlessly through bootcamp. I get the best of both worlds!
I just recently upgraded to the 15 inch unibody macbook pro:
2.80 core2duo
4 gigs ddr3
nvidia gefore 9400/9600
500gb HD
If you get it before the school semester starts (and if you are a student, or know a student who you can have purchase it for you) you can get a smokin deal. The pricetag for this machine is 1,999. You get 200 off for being a student and you get a free printer and a free ipod touch. I sold the ipod touch for 200 (it retails for 250) so ended up getting 400 off the computer, making it $1,600. Great buy.
Now on to gaming. Ive been doing some testing over the past couple of days:
Fallout 3 on high settings flawlessly
LOTRO on very high settings with no problems at all, on ultra high with minimal hitching. This on dx10.
Darkfall on high settings with no shadows on gets me 150 fps.
Ill have tested age of conan by the end of today so I ll get back to you on that.
I am running x64 Windows 7.
Sooo ya, do it!
PS: Before people jump on here and start calling me out and saying im some sort of mac fanboy and I dont know anything about gaming let me state that I am also in the midst of building a gaming PC. I love my macbook pro but of course I realize that PCs are much more versatile for gaming and I would like to have one that stays at home (that I can always upgrade) for when I am not out and about.
Originally posted by Scagweed22
is it the graphics? the repetativenesses? i mean what is the point? you could be so much more productive in real life
Real life brings repetition and pointlessness too. The only thing real life offers is Great graphics. Its kinda expensive too and way to dependent on the cash shop. Totally pay to win as well. No thank you. Ill stick to my games.
You can even dual boot with windows if you felt like it. But if your primary goal is to play games why not just get a PC. Macs are way over priced a PC can do anything a mac can do plus play all the latest games. If you know anything about computers and viruses you can have a PC and never get one, Ive been virus free for years now.
IMHO Macs are a ripoff you can build a PC with the same specs as a mac for less. I use music programs , I know people who edit and encode video and even do live djing with traktor live all on a PC and it works flawlessly. I really don't see why everyone uses a mac, I guess they are rich and have money to do so.
But hey if your really want a mac then go for it, don't let me stop you.
Sometimes computer purchases aren't just clearly about the money/savings etc. In many cases if specced pound for pound, you can get a MAC for less than most PC counterparts. Granted you can build a great gaming machine for less if you know where and what to get.
Personally I own both, as well as work on both. The MAC will continue to get my money as it has a solid design, current hardware and the ability to run both Windows and OS X. The MAC gives me in a sense 2 computers for the price of one, not to mention OS X and the (free) software that accompanies it.
Not every gamer just games, and not all work is done in a PC environment. They both have their uses and they both can do just about what the other can as well. I find a higher value in MAC's and thats why I buy them.
Yeah I just don't just game on my PC I record and produce music using Ableton Live. I personally cant justify spending money on a Mac, I see mac inferior because it cant play all the latest games natively. You can use boot camp but then it just becomes an over priced PC, what makes a mac a mac is the OS. They use intel proc. I think they use foxcon Mobos from what i heard im not sure what ram they use or hard drives.
I tried to make a hackintosh once but It didn't work I think I need to get a SATA DVD drive and it would work It may be Illegal but I think Apple should put some more hardware support in their OS and make it install on pretty much every computer. Linux took their code and did it. lol Heck Id even buy OS X and install it tonight if they did. I like to switch it up every now and then with Linux.
Also Ive seen Apple 24" monitors for 900 bones when I could go get an Asus 24" for 219......That is just a joke Its like Apple thinks their shit is made out of gold or something. Now I will say that Mac is awsome with their battery technology so that is probobly the only thing I would say Mac is better at than a PC.
If you are not primarily interested in gaming, I'd go with Mac.
1) Only platform that runs all three major OSs natively
2) Tailored hardware, runs smooth as silks
3) Quality product, overall - just compare a macbook to PC notebooks. It's just way cooler and has a very sturdy and reliable feel to it
4) OS X is a superior OS - with the exception of gaming (not due to OS, but MS domination over the past decade in that sector). Hard to list them all; but most people I know agree with that.
5) You get all your standard applications (e.g. MS Office) plus the advantages of Unix. If you are into programming and any "serious" non-graphical computer stuff (website management, databases, scripting, ...) Unix is just the better choice.
Switched from PC to Mac about 2 years ago and def. don't regret it. In retrospective, I really wonder why I waited that long and kept up with all the windows bs and limitations (with respect to my work, not gaming of course).
There's more to the 24" monitor than the screen measurement. The panel used in the Apple monitor is an LED-backlit H-IPS 1920x1200 screen. Those aren't cheap. You can find others with similar specs that start at 900 bones and go up from there. Way up.
Current: None
Played: WoW, CoX, SWG, LotRO, EVE, AoC, VG, CO, Ryzom, DF, WAR
Tried: Lineage2, Dofus, EQ2, CoS, FE, UO, Wurm, Wakfu
Future: The Repopulation, ArcheAge, Black Desert, EQN
Thanks for all of the advice! I have other reasons for wanting to use a Mac, but was worried about limiting my ability to do some gaming. Sounds like I don't have to worry with an iMac and sufficient hardware. Thanks again!!
Not at all my friend : ) And I dont think youll regret the decision. Like most of us who take an honest dive into the mac realm, its hard to turn back!
Originally posted by Scagweed22
is it the graphics? the repetativenesses? i mean what is the point? you could be so much more productive in real life
Real life brings repetition and pointlessness too. The only thing real life offers is Great graphics. Its kinda expensive too and way to dependent on the cash shop. Totally pay to win as well. No thank you. Ill stick to my games.
Yes all these games run amazingly well on the new Macbook Pro. i run them on high settings with 60-80 FPS (AoC in particular) and it's outrageous but these laptops seriously kick ass.
qft. just tested on aoc on mine and its running splendidly on high settings.
Originally posted by Scagweed22
is it the graphics? the repetativenesses? i mean what is the point? you could be so much more productive in real life
Real life brings repetition and pointlessness too. The only thing real life offers is Great graphics. Its kinda expensive too and way to dependent on the cash shop. Totally pay to win as well. No thank you. Ill stick to my games.
You can even dual boot with windows if you felt like it. But if your primary goal is to play games why not just get a PC. Macs are way over priced a PC can do anything a mac can do plus play all the latest games. If you know anything about computers and viruses you can have a PC and never get one, Ive been virus free for years now.
IMHO Macs are a ripoff you can build a PC with the same specs as a mac for less. I use music programs , I know people who edit and encode video and even do live djing with traktor live all on a PC and it works flawlessly. I really don't see why everyone uses a mac, I guess they are rich and have money to do so.
But hey if your really want a mac then go for it, don't let me stop you.
Sometimes computer purchases aren't just clearly about the money/savings etc. In many cases if specced pound for pound, you can get a MAC for less than most PC counterparts. Granted you can build a great gaming machine for less if you know where and what to get.
Personally I own both, as well as work on both. The MAC will continue to get my money as it has a solid design, current hardware and the ability to run both Windows and OS X. The MAC gives me in a sense 2 computers for the price of one, not to mention OS X and the (free) software that accompanies it.
That is just terribly false. You cannot get an evenly specced Mac for the same price as a PC... Anywhere. Just recently I compared a Macbook Pro to a Dell notebook, even specs, and the Mac was $2400 while the Dell was $1100.
The only reason you get the sense of "2 computers for the price of one", and very over-priced at that, is because Apple is the Iron Fist of proprietary software. There is nothing special, advanced, or better about Mac hardware(They have been known to use bottom of the line hardware). The only difference is that Apple refuses to allow their OS to run on anything but the overpriced hardware they sell. You are paying out the ass for the ability to run a Unix based OS when you can build a regular PC for half the price and get Linux for free.
I seriously cannot fathom why anyone outside of media students that have to, actually buys a Mac. They are terribly over-priced, and limited. Anything you can do on a Mac, you can do on a PC, while the opposite isn't true, and PC's cost a lot, LOT less. Does the use of OSX actually justify the ridiculous costs? Boggles my mind.
Tried: LotR, CoH, AoC, WAR, Jumpgate Classic
Played: SWG, Guild Wars, WoW
Playing: Eve Online, Counter-strike
Loved: Star Wars Galaxies
Waiting for: Earthrise, Guild Wars 2, anything sandbox.
Can you point me to this comparison? Which Dell and which Macbook Pro?
Current: None
Played: WoW, CoX, SWG, LotRO, EVE, AoC, VG, CO, Ryzom, DF, WAR
Tried: Lineage2, Dofus, EQ2, CoS, FE, UO, Wurm, Wakfu
Future: The Repopulation, ArcheAge, Black Desert, EQN