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Help my brother pick a class.....
I have been playing MMO's for eight years. Suffice it to say, I know what type fo classes I love and which type I avoid.
My brother, who NEVER plays MMO'S, saw me playing Aion beta and said "Woh! that looks beautiful, I want to try it out when it comes out." I was pleasantly surprised to say the least. My brother preferes RL friends/social circle and plays console games primarily.
Personality wise, he's also very methodical, likes to plan things out, and "milk" a game as much as he can. I don't think he has the reflexes nor the desire to play a "twitchy" class. To top it all off, he's never played any computer game requiring a keyboard and mouse. Adding insult to injury, he's left handed, so I don't even know how to impart my experience to him since I'm right handed. With that said, I think there's going to be a steep learning curve for him when it comes to keybinding everything.
I don't want him to play Aion, and find it such a difficult adjustment that he quits after a week of playing. My brother and I are really close, and it would be awesome to lvl up a character with him. I even built a computer for him to play it on.
Knowing what I just explained, what class do you think he would "enjoy" the most given his limitations/tastes?
I was thinking Ranger..... Only because he doesn't have to deal with the responsablity of healing or tanking, which is an added pressure that is not in line with his personality.
All comments and suggestions are appreciated in advance.
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I'd say a sorcerer, ranger, or spiritmaster.
Ranger's do get caught im melee, and kiting might be a pain for him, and Sorcerer's kind of kite a little, so i'd say spiritmaster might do well.
Yeah. Spirit Master. The pet can tank, so there isn't much need for kiting.
It depends on what class you will play as well. If you are looking for a class he can solo well with, but will primarily be playing in a duo with you, more classes open up, as long as you are willing to be the one who does a little extra work.
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My plan was to lvl up two characters at the same time.
One class, let's say a templar would be the one I would play on my own time, while the other, I would lvl only with my brother. This would allow me and him to have the same lvl characters at all times.
I was thinking of going either Ranger or Gladiator for the class to lvl with my brother. I'm trying to convince my cousin to go cleric or chanter so that we have healing covered.
My only concern is how well a Gladiator can "tank" in a 3-person group doing pve and pvp.
I'm left handed for everything except for the PC, dunno why.
Btw I suggest spirit master, because there's the pet to do most of the work for him, a ranger has too much work to do by kiting and etc.
Why spiritmaster? Pet tank, throw dots and start spamming damage spells.
I see your trying to help your bro out and help make the experience better for him but in my opinion i think you need to let him pick his character. Even though he is your brother im sure he has his own opinions on what he likes and making him play a character he doesnt choose may make him not like the game even more than if you were to let him choose his own character. If you really want to help him give him the basics of each characters job let him choose and then make the experience enjoyable for him in-game with helping him out with questing and such. I had the same situation with my bro (He played mainly consoles as well) and i just let him pick his character and then i helped in-game with questing and techniques for his class and in no time he became a very good MMO player.
Thanks for the great advice. I think I may have incorrectly stated my intention. I want to suggest a few classes he can start with that matches his personality and playstyle to ease the transition.
I have no doubt that once he becomes good at Aion, he can make the change to another class himself. My only worry is that if he chooses a class contrary to his personality, he's the type to give it up.
Which isn't necessarily a bad thing if he decides Aion isn't for him, but i'd much rather he form that opinion without having to deal with a class he hates to play.
Trying to make his first guess and educated one as to which class to pick.
It's his decision all the way....
I'd say a sorcerer, but hes gotta watch the agro
Ranger, assassin, gladiator, or sorcerer would be your best bet. Ranger or Sorcerer if you don't want him to have to worry about keeping close to his targets.
I would not recommend Spiritmaster for a first-timer to MMOs. This is the primary crowd control class in the game and takes a lot of expertise at higher levels. Especially if you are wanting to do any PVP.
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Thanks for the great advice. I think I may have incorrectly stated my intention. I want to suggest a few classes he can start with that matches his personality and playstyle to ease the transition.
I have no doubt that once he becomes good at Aion, he can make the change to another class himself. My only worry is that if he chooses a class contrary to his personality, he's the type to give it up.
Which isn't necessarily a bad thing if he decides Aion isn't for him, but i'd much rather he form that opinion without having to deal with a class he hates to play.
Trying to make his first guess and educated one as to which class to pick.
It's his decision all the way....
You are welcome but yet again this may be a decision that he needs to make since the one that knows your brothers personalty the best is your brother as for playstyle that might be tougher since you stated he never played an mmo before he may just have to learn what his playstyle is by just playing maybe you can let him play an mmo thats out now and try to detrmine it that way. Hope all goes well goodluck. (^_^)VYouve been playing MMOs longer than a lot of people here and you are also playing Aion, and you know your brother better than any of us. It seems us choosing a class for him would have far less potential than your own recommendation.
As far as the lefty thing. Just put the mouse on the left side of the computer (as he probably already does) and hell rest his right hand on the hotbar keys instead of his left. Easy! lol
Im sure hell enjoy it. Ah the bliss of your first MMO experience. Never again, never again... : (
Originally posted by Scagweed22
is it the graphics? the repetativenesses? i mean what is the point? you could be so much more productive in real life
Real life brings repetition and pointlessness too. The only thing real life offers is Great graphics. Its kinda expensive too and way to dependent on the cash shop. Totally pay to win as well. No thank you. Ill stick to my games.
Thanks for the great advice. I think I may have incorrectly stated my intention. I want to suggest a few classes he can start with that matches his personality and playstyle to ease the transition.
I have no doubt that once he becomes good at Aion, he can make the change to another class himself. My only worry is that if he chooses a class contrary to his personality, he's the type to give it up.
Which isn't necessarily a bad thing if he decides Aion isn't for him, but i'd much rather he form that opinion without having to deal with a class he hates to play.
Trying to make his first guess and educated one as to which class to pick.
It's his decision all the way....
You are welcome but yet again this may be a decision that he needs to make since the one that knows your brothers personalty the best is your brother as for playstyle that might be tougher since you stated he never played an mmo before he may just have to learn what his playstyle is by just playing maybe you can let him play an mmo thats out now and try to detrmine it that way. Hope all goes well goodluck. (^_^)VHe played WoW for a month and hated it. I've played FFXI, AoC, Warhammer, and WoW and enjoyed all of them.
Aion is the only one he's shown an interest in... that's why i'm trying to get him hooked lol.
Ive developed a system of playing as a lefty that either flows beatifully or bites me in the ass.
Because my mouse is in my left hand, I use the mouse for movement. Most games have a form of movement tied to the left or right (or both) mouse buttons. I bind my razor's side keys for strafe. Its movement in all derections except backpeddling. Not a bad thing in most cases.
Now my right hand becomes my button masher. I use numpad for 1-12. Ive also used keytweak to remap down and left arrow key to control and alt. Holding either left or down arrow key in conjuction with numpad gives me an extra 24 keys to smash right under my hand.
Tab targeting is right arrow key, jump= / key on numpad, autorun is 0 on numpad.
You can bind the 6 page up, down, insert,delete etc keys to whatever special in game function you wish.
Now when I get bit in the ass, its by a game that doesnt allow for extensive keybinding. I end up just avoiding them. (most f2p games come to mind)
Edited to say- if you buy a mouse for buttons on the side, make sure theyre on the right side of the mouse since thats where your left thumb will be. Most side buttons will be on the left. Razer copperhead and lachesis are two mice that have buttons on both sides.
Stay away from the scout classes(assassin & ranger). They are really weak early game and could possibly cause him to be frustrated w/ the game. Both classes are pretty twitchy as well.
Stay away from the Sorcerer. It's a great class but its probably the class w/ the highest skill requirement. Being responsible for CCing stuff in groups and trying to keep yourself alive in PvP is probably not for the new MMO player.
Stay away from the Templar. You don't want a new player trying to take on the role of a tank. And he could easily get frustrated in PvP by not being able to kill anything.
Stay away from the Cleric. It's a great class but being relegated to a pure healing role in mass PvP and PvE parties is a quick way to make a person hate MMOs. It's even worse if he sucks at it and everyone hates on him.
So that leaves the SpiritMaster, Chanter, and Gladiator. So just ask him if he prefers a caster, melee, or hybrid... and you'll have his class. I'd personally recommend the Gladiator as its an easy class to start playing, it has a good bit of survivability/dps, and it gets to use the best looking armor and weapons. If you're brother is a visual kinda guy, the Gladiator's armor/weapons + combat animations are probably the most appealing in the game.
He should go Templar.
Why? because they are hard to kill at higher lvls. Don't let him play a class that is paper thin (He's gonna get pissed at dieing too easly).
I don't know your class, but think about rolling a class that will support his Templar. (You can always roll an alt for you fav class).
Good luck and good hunting to the both of you.
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You have the Spiritmaster and Sorcerer confused. Sorcerer is a ranged DPS class, Spiritmaster is the CC class. Also Chanter's are expected to keep their group buffed and off-heal when there is a Cleric present or main-heal if there is no Cleric. I agree that Gladiator would probaly be the best bet.
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Tell him to roll a cleric and heal you. Might be a good way to be introduced to so many new things and make it a little easier.
So a solid straight foward class that does well all around?
Gladiator or Chanter. I don't recommend Spiritmaster for many reasons, one is that SM's way of PvP can be considered "twitchy", especially in solo just as Assassin and Rangers can be, so it seems those two classes fit him the best. If he knows how to heal well, then cleric is not bad either. You can never tell these days with younger gamers, some can be skilled and/or mature.
"Beautiful"? not "friggin cool", "@#$%ing AWESOME"? But beautiful?
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Enjoy playing your Cleric or Chanter in Aion!
You have the Spiritmaster and Sorcerer confused. Sorcerer is a ranged DPS class, Spiritmaster is the CC class. Also Chanter's are expected to keep their group buffed and off-heal when there is a Cleric present or main-heal if there is no Cleric. I agree that Gladiator would probaly be the best bet.
No I don't. Take a Sorcerer and Spirit-master into an instance and see who gets put on CC duty... SMs can substitute, but the Sorcerer is king. SM's also maintain a higher overall DPS on long fights than Sorcerers. Sorcerers excel at burst damage. Maybe this will change with the cast haste stat that has been added in 1.5, I don't know.
Keeping up group buffs in important, but not OMG WE'RE GOING TO DIE" critical like healing/tanking. And while a Chanter may very well main-heal in the absense of a Cleric, most groups run w/ both a Cleric and Chanter w/ the Cleric main-healing. In that situation the Chanter is free to DPS/Off-heal/Buff, which is much less constricting and more entertaining the being forced into the Main-heal role every single instance... which is exactly what will happen if he plays a cleric.
I recommend staying away from Spirit-master as well. They are slightly more complicated in PvP because they focus more on debuffing and manipulating the battle conditions. Pets can also be dangerous for the inexperienced in group dungeons.
BTW, definitely keep him far FAR away from the Ranger. That class is so lame to level until your mid 20s. On top of that they are a very twitchy class that requires lots of kiting and quick thinking. They are more fragile than even sorcerers.
I guess it might be ok if your going to be grouping with him 95% of the time, otherwise keep clear.
Definitely NOT spiritmaster, ranger. Spiritmaster even more so because it requires lots of micromanaging and alot of juggling DoTs with cooldowns, pet abilities and movement slowing/imparing abilities. I think I'll end up with RSI.
Ranger takes dexterity with the kiting part and thinking quickly how to get out of a sticky situation.
I feel as though sorcerer would be more up his alley. Direct damage, escape spells, portals! Just stack on the HP+ manastones and he should be fine regarding the squishy bit.
Gladiator will have AoE DPS while the templar will not die fast with more same level mobs chewing his bum. He does not have to tank ever, if he doesn't want to.
Just spec him with crit stones, a greatsword (2-hander), equip some plate...profit?
I hope this adds to your decision making.
I agree with what people have said, you should let him tell you what job interests him. But if you want to go off his personality (from what you've given us), I would suggest a Gladiator or a Sorc. I'm no expert, but I think those classes are most likely a lot less twitchy than the others. Gladiator maybe a better choice since he will not be squishy. If he has a healer he just has to worry about positioning etc. Sorc will be vunerable to assassins etc which maybe frusterating as a new player, getting ganked as a squishy.
Also another consideration would be Assassin. Probably a bit more twitchy than the other two, but if you're going Ranger you both can stealth together I believe? Plus the assassin is supposed to be the easiest class to level i think.
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I have 2 real life friends that started mmo's with CN-AION, after they try some class's untill lvl 12, 13, they both stick with chanter.
its seams they found chanter very friendly to play. and the healing part is not so dificult to learn, if u explain him how the agro works in a mmo.
and chanter is allways a nice partner to any class