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How is AION for the non-addict
I just really want to know if the game is fun enough to play. I play these games for the adventure and character development, but most games these days lack the excitement adventure has to have, because everything is guided or set up so success is easily had.
So do you feel excited when playing AION? Do you feel like you're chasing a carrot, or do you feel like you are in a real world? Is this one of those games where you run around a town, collect quests, and follow the markers to the objective, or is this one of those games where you have to think about where you're going, what you're going to do, and need at least basic map using skills? Is this game about the adventure, or about getting the next best item? I think you get where I'm going with this. I'm not looking for a fix, or a game to keep me distracted from life; I'm looking for a game that is full of unguided adventure with rewards to be had for those that take risks, and better rewards for those taking more risks. Basically what adventure is all about, I guess.
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Well, this game is supposed to be quite different from 1-25 than from 26-50. The first 25 levels provides you nothing really new from most other MMos apart from different locales.
The core gameplay that starts once you get to Abyss is based around PvPvE concept, which is also the reason why many of us are looking forward to this game. It is based on risk and rewards. From small group to raid objectives in an open world PvP environment that also consist PvE elements.
I would say that adventure is not in that big role in this game. It is more about excitement that comes from open world PvP and while trying to out DPS other raids on open world bosses. It is by far more competitive game than WoW, for example. Because even to access some of the PvE content requires you to compete for it.
"The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in."
Well I guess it would cater for both type's of user's.
There is an easy option to find where you have to go on the map to complete quests,when you bring up your quest you can click on the location/npc/whatever and then click on "locate" and it will show you where to go,now no-one says you have to use this and I would imagine RP'ers wont use this tool.
As for is it a carrot on a stick game then I would have to say yes,you pick up your quests from quest hubs and move out to complete them.Now the difference is that after a certain level you dont have to do these quests and can level in pvp(if thats your thing),you also get XP from crafting and gathering(all be it small XP),in turn with crafting you can have some very nice gear and not only at starting levels but also at end level.
I think the gear set up is 1st(and best) PvP gear,2nd Crafted gear and 3rd PvE gear.
If you are asking if you MUST follow the carrot on a stick route and do what everyone else is doing then the answer is no,you have to a certain extent choices on how you want to play and how you will get your gear and even how this gear will look.
You also have to remember that this is not a sandbox title so you are limited in your choice's but they are there.
Myself I will not be going from quest hub to quest hub just to level,I will be leveling my crafting as I go and hope for the most part I will be wearing items I have made,I will also be doing a good mix of pvp and pve and doing alot of guild events.
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8
OMFG if this is the truth then I shall LOVE and CHERISH this barbie game!
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Sounds a bit like WAR, which offers the same thing, except you can do it at level 1 even. WAR was exciting, but the game got dull before level 20. I guess the world just didn't feel alive, like some MMO's are able to pull off.
Name those MMO's for me will you pal?
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Actually it is nothin like WAR. Some have said it a bit like DAOC, but did not play that myself for long enough to be able to make comparision.
"The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in."
This right here answers the question asked. If this statement is fully true, I wont be buying this game either.
Never violate a woman, nor harm a child. Do not lie, cheat or steal. These things are for lesser men. Protect the weak against the evil strong. And never allow thoughts of gain to lead you into the pursuit of evil. Never back away from an enemy. Either fight or surrender. It is not enough to say I will not be evil. Evil must be fought wherever it is found.The Iron Code"
plus, unless you're a "733t kid with mad skillz and wanna pwn the nubsauce and teach them how to worship your killa pvp skillz cuz only you have what it takes teh rest are just posing carebears" it's not for you.
The community's pulling in alot (too much) of the epeen waving no-lifers. cancelled my digital preorder by clawbacking the payment thru mastercard.
Here is the patch notes of the version we will release with in NA.
http://www.aionsource.com/forum/general-discussion/20946-patch-notes-v1-5-update-shadow-balaur.html
Not sure if that helps, but there will be a decent amount of dungeons added to the game.
OMFG if this is the truth then I shall LOVE and CHERISH this barbie game!
It's not exactly "open world".
the main pvp area is a place called the abyss. Otherwise, each side has their part of the world. The asmodians the top half and the elyos the bottom half. There are gateways called rifts that open up in some of the areas on the opposite sides of the world.
There are also places where these rifts don't open up. When they open up people get a warning so as to decide if they want to stay around or take off. Possibly warning others. the longer you stay on the opposing side and the more people you kill, you will get a debuff.
You can't go into the noob areas and pick people off.
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Don't expect much of a mold breaker here. You will quest and grind your way to max level. I personally feel excited playing because the game is all new to me. I'm also excited to hit the end of the game and pvp.
I think how much of a real world are you in depends on the player if you read the quests and everything or if you just zip past it all to get it done with. How the game feels to you depends on how you'll play it, whether you're a min maxer or not. I think a large amount of people are playing this for the pvp aspect , so you can see if that interests you.
I suggest you check out the beta, $5 preorder.
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Well, most of the end-game PvP is happening in Abyss which is an open area. I ment open world PvP, as opposed to scenarios, battlegrounds and arenas. I think you misunderstood my point in purpose?
"The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in."
DAoC was my first game, and I loved it. But there was nothing gear grindy about that game. The only thing grindy about that game was the levels, but I found that to be fun, since I just grinded with groups or got xp from doing BG's. But I guess if you count ToA, you have the artifacts, which was a form of gear grinding. Or the camping of spawn points for those artifacts.
Heres how it'll go.
People will have nothing but praise for the game and anyone who says otherwise will get flamed. Then the game gets launched and everyone thinks it's shit and you'll get flamed for liking it.
You can freely play Aion now, in the beta or on Chinese servers. Aion has nothing to hide, it will be released as a complete game. Although there will be a huge content patch for 1.5, which coincides with the Western release, e.g. 12 instances added - biggest patch by any MMO company. You can play it right now and see if you like it ...
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While it might end up being a crap game in the end, it is only certain types of personalities that feel the need to come and bash it afterwards.
The reasons I have pre-ordered this game is not because I think it will be popular, but because I think that PvPvE might actually be fun. If it is not fun, then I just quit and check for some other games.
"The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in."
Not only is the game a level/gear treadmill it actually encourages you to PvP LESS due to Abyss Point loss on death, and abyss points are used to purchase high end gear.
You pretty much have to be in an uber large big guild to have access to any of the open world raid bosses, or to survive being Ganked and losing your Abyss points continuously from large gank squads who travel in large packs to avoid losing Abyss points.
Or you can hide from PvP and grind mobs and little daily quests in the Abyss for your Abyss points, which everyone will do while looking over their shoulder for Assassins at all times and looking to the sky for ranged classes like Ranger/Sorc.
For those in large PvP / Raid guilds who can keep their strength/safety in numbers it is going to be a great game... but for casual Joe or your "average" MMO gamer hahahahaah good luck. I guess that is what the free month is for.
The game is 100% about gear and getting cool uber armors and weapons from hording abyss points through RvR sieges and also tagging and farming open world raid bosses. It's the worst parts of WoW's honor system mixed in with a very old school EQ style raid system.
Oh, and throw in the fact you lose Abyss points when you die and the gear treadmill/grind is even LONGER and more ardous then even WoW is, at least you get to keep your farmed points in WoW.
Your opinion is immaterial.
Not only is the game a level/gear treadmill it actually encourages you to PvP LESS due to Abyss Point loss on death, and abyss points are used to purchase high end gear.
You pretty much have to be in an uber large big guild to have access to any of the open world raid bosses, or to survive being Ganked and losing your Abyss points continuously from large gank squads who travel in large packs to avoid losing Abyss points.
Or you can hide from PvP and grind mobs and little daily quests in the Abyss for your Abyss points, which everyone will do while looking over their shoulder for Assassins at all times and looking to the sky for ranged classes like Ranger/Sorc.
For those in large PvP / Raid guilds who can keep their strength/safety in numbers it is going to be a great game... but for casual Joe or your "average" MMO gamer hahahahaah good luck. I guess that is what the free month is for.
The game is 100% about gear and getting cool uber armors and weapons from hording abyss points through RvR sieges and also tagging and farming open world raid bosses. It's the worst parts of WoW's honor system mixed in with a very old school EQ style raid system.
Oh, and throw in the fact you lose Abyss points when you die and the gear treadmill/grind is even LONGER and more ardous then even WoW is, at least you get to keep your farmed points in WoW.
And I assume you have gotten to level 40 or higher in China/Korea to be able to give us these statements?
Not only is the game a level/gear treadmill it actually encourages you to PvP LESS due to Abyss Point loss on death, and abyss points are used to purchase high end gear.
You pretty much have to be in an uber large big guild to have access to any of the open world raid bosses, or to survive being Ganked and losing your Abyss points continuously from large gank squads who travel in large packs to avoid losing Abyss points.
Or you can hide from PvP and grind mobs and little daily quests in the Abyss for your Abyss points, which everyone will do while looking over their shoulder for Assassins at all times and looking to the sky for ranged classes like Ranger/Sorc.
For those in large PvP / Raid guilds who can keep their strength/safety in numbers it is going to be a great game... but for casual Joe or your "average" MMO gamer hahahahaah good luck. I guess that is what the free month is for.
The game is 100% about gear and getting cool uber armors and weapons from hording abyss points through RvR sieges and also tagging and farming open world raid bosses. It's the worst parts of WoW's honor system mixed in with a very old school EQ style raid system.
Oh, and throw in the fact you lose Abyss points when you die and the gear treadmill/grind is even LONGER and more ardous then even WoW is, at least you get to keep your farmed points in WoW.
And I assume you have gotten to level 40 or higher in China/Korea to be able to give us these statements?
After playing MMOs for 13 years, and by "MMOs" I mean trying everything that is released, subbing multiple games and accounts at once, playing most "major" titles for significant portion of time...
and generally knowing a whole hell of a lot about the MMO genre and what drives players to play and keep playing, knowing how rules and game system such as those in Aion will be used and abused by players...
I don't even HAVE to play to know EXACTLY what will happen. It's total 100% common sense.
Your opinion is immaterial.
That is the risk and reward aspect. And you are right, it does not gather to those who enjoy the casual and risk free WoW PvP - it is a different game for a different audience. Why I said in my previous post that I do not believe it will be popular, regardless of the high number of early adopters.
In fact, I am pretty sure there might be as well be a river forming in Abyss from all the cries we will hear in the forums.
"The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in."
Pretty much at this point I can look at the feature list of a new MMORPG and tell you exactly how it is going to play out.
Obviously there are outliers and exceptions to every rule but for the most part I can read the feature list of Aion, read the comments from the faithful and the haters, watch the videos and read the official hype machine texts, disect the feedback and such and tell exactly how AION is going to play out.
As long as I've got enough understanding of how the game systems will actually work then yeah, I'm very accurate.
Your opinion is immaterial.
Well, most of the end-game PvP is happening in Abyss which is an open area. I ment open world PvP, as opposed to scenarios, battlegrounds and arenas. I think you misunderstood my point in purpose?
My point is that people see the phrase "open world" and then jump to all sorts of conclusions. For people looking for open world pvp they really are looking for the typical "no holds barred" pvp world. Sort of like Lineage 2. Or I imagine Dark Fall.
and yes, there are scenarios of sorts in Aion as there are instanced pvp quests such as the Dreadgion quest.
When you say open world it means open world. So sure, the abyss is completely open. But the rest of the world has more barriers to it. I'm not saying you are trying to mislead people but there are qualifiers.
What happens is that the more hard core players start following the game, see things like open world, know the game is made by nc soft, creators of lineage and lineage 2 and they start thinking hard core pvp game.
but aion really isn't a hard core pvp game.
Heck, you should have seen the thread where it was discovered that a debuff ensues when you are on the other side for too long.I think a better way to say it would be "open world pvp areas".
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"there are scenarios of sorts in Aion as there are instanced pvp quests such as the Dreadgion quest."
Anyone interested in those look here: http://www.aionsource.com/forum/general-discussion/16694-complete-overview-draconic-carrier.html
"The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in."
Not only is the game a level/gear treadmill it actually encourages you to PvP LESS due to Abyss Point loss on death, and abyss points are used to purchase high end gear.
Risk in PvP, is amazing. It encourages more strategic group encounters and not blindless solo players like your used to in WoW, with 0 risk. Abyss points INCREASE the more you PVP, not sure why you would less if your goal is to gain more gear..
You pretty much have to be in an uber large big guild to have access to any of the open world raid bosses, or to survive being Ganked and losing your Abyss points continuously from large gank squads who travel in large packs to avoid losing Abyss points.
Encounters like fortress and open world bosses encourages grouping in a MMO, who would have thought zomg. Is this a negative about the game?
For those in large PvP / Raid guilds who can keep their strength/safety in numbers it is going to be a great game... but for casual Joe or your "average" MMO gamer hahahahaah good luck. I guess that is what the free month is for.
Guilds are capped at 90 to prevent zerging. Nothing is preventing the "average joe" from joining a guild/group! it an MMO after all!
The game is 100% about gear and getting cool uber armors and weapons from hording abyss points through RvR sieges and also tagging and farming open world raid bosses. It's the worst parts of WoW's honor system mixed in with a very old school EQ style raid system.
No, it's 100% about having fun. The gear grind you had to endure in WoW has hampered your senses that a game can actually be about having fun... blame blizzard
Oh, and throw in the fact you lose Abyss points when you die and the gear treadmill/grind is even LONGER and more ardous then even WoW is, at least you get to keep your farmed points in WoW.
risk/reward Open world PvP witch actually affects the world your playing in.... something id prefer over the instanced sideshow of WoW PVP. You choose?
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Also, here is the link that talks about some 1.5 instances and the Dreadgion battle ground/quest:
www.aionsource.com/forum/general-discussion/20946-patch-notes-v1-5-update-shadow-balaur.html
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo