giantsquidRunes of Magic CorrespondentMemberPosts: 118
I'd like to make to comments:
Forums for any game or anything on the internet are ripe with the "loud minority". That's not to say you can't get an accurate review or opinion, or answer to a question.
I quit using RoM's forums months ago. In my opinion you cannot base anything about any part of the game on what the majority in the forums are saying. RoM forums are best for finding specific answers like where does X drop, and so on.
Most of my friends told me they avoid WoW, EQ2 and Vanguards forums like the plague.
Secondly no one knows if or when someone is spending money on the game. This is not just in defense of Runes of Magic but many free-to-play MMORPGs.
There is no way to tell if you are even competing to any extent with cash shop users. I've run into just as many super geared players, who pay, and don't pay.
Even if you pay, how do you know that player you think you need to hurry up and spend money to compete with, hasn't played the game for 5 months longer than you?
The fact that people pay to get gear and other things in-game is such a smaller percentage of overall gameplay experience.
You don't know how they play. Maybe they only do a few quests a day, then spend all day chatting while sitting on a log.
The only way to feel the need to compete in a sub game is that you feel you need to hurry up and play more, faster, longer. That alone isn't true either.
You really have to step back and say, what is it I want to get out of this game? If you simply love min/maxing level and gear, that's fine, but people who spend months simply decorating there house are just as important and meaningful to the game. The game is meant for fun. If you have fun competing and feel the need to get the gear so you can compete with high level and high geared players, it just goes back to taking the time.
I do admit, that some players love to eat up parts of the game as fast as they can. The ones who are paying use this to move from one raid to the next at a much faster rate of speed than someone not paying. But that doesn't make them top of the server or better ranked at anything. And you will still be able to do any raid you want, get any gear you want, do anything you want, without paying.
But that is only with players who want to do the highest raid as soon as it comes out, and can't bare to work too long to get the gear in-game.
There are just too many things to think about.
The bottom line is nothing is more important than knowing the game let's you achieve, not just get, but "do" anything in the game you want.
You want to raid the highest dungeons? You can do it, you want to be a top PvPer? you can do it? and you don't have to pay.
I've played with players who never paid, and achieved everything they wanted, and burnt through all the raids fast.
A couple weeks from now, I will be stronger and have better gear than most, because I worked for it. Who won't I be able to compete with? and why?
Many F2P games are starting to come out with better run cash shops. It is becoming an old saying to say that cash shop puts people always above non-payers. That may have been true in the past, but it isn't anymore.
Many F2P games are not cash shop dependent at all these days.
You say "No matter how much time you spent in that game, you won't be as powerfull as someone who spends 50 euros every week" But that isn't true.
You can get and do everything in the game that a payer can. I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean that someone will be able to make a weapon faster? Because that is true, but you can still make that exact same weapon...or armor.
There is a limit to the weapons and other items in game. There is no magic new weapon above the current best in game, and non-payers and payers alike can get those.
I'm surprised people aren't arguing about the amount people spend. There's going to be some who can pay more than others, but no ones comparing that. Why not? if paying matters, wouldn't the amount you pay matter? But that isn't true. Anyone could tell, by how the game works, that someone who spent less could be more powerful than someone who spent more.
As another note: I've had 2 players in my guild at open beta, and knew others in top guild during that time, that went PvP and PKing people a lot, and they always get swear words and people yelling at them in zone chat "F'ing cash user" and similar. They laugh it off, because they and I all knew they never spent a dime on the game. Just food for thought.
Excellent point. i've been playing the game for like 5 months, and the only thing i ever paid for was a mount, and some misc. accessories to make the game easier/less travel intensive.
the only benefit to using the Cash Shop is that it all happens faster.
Excellent point. i've been playing the game for like 5 months, and the only thing i ever paid for was a mount, and some misc. accessories to make the game easier/less travel intensive. the only benefit to using the Cash Shop is that it all happens faster.
hah!, just wait until you hit ~L52 & visit the weeping coast for the first time!
You will be "WTF!?!?! how am i supposed to be able to kill that/those"
Not sure why so many ppl talk about PVP. I could care less about PVP, I'm all about PVE!!! Battling others holds no allure for me whatsoever. I'm also a female player which is nothing special since I knew loads of female players on ROM last summer and hope to find some more this time around.
I played ROM last June of '09 and only played a few weeks. I have downloaded Allods Online which some say is even better than ROM and I'm considering re-downloading ROM to try it again. I don't like games with greedy CS systems but I know they must make money somehow. I thought ROM was fun the first time and I wonder how much it's progressed since last summer.
Also, if I choose to buy those diamond thingies with a Credit card to get a mount, will my in game money/diamonds be available immediately so I can get it from the CS?
Not sure why so many ppl talk about PVP. I could care less about PVP, I'm all about PVE!!! Battling others holds no allure for me whatsoever. I'm also a female player which is nothing special since I knew loads of female players on ROM last summer and hope to find some more this time around. I played ROM last June of '09 and only played a few weeks. I have downloaded Allods Online which some say is even better than ROM and I'm considering re-downloading ROM to try it again. I don't like games with greedy CS systems but I know they must make money somehow. I thought ROM was fun the first time and I wonder how much it's progressed since last summer. Also, if I choose to buy those diamond thingies with a Credit card to get a mount, will my in game money/diamonds be available immediately so I can get it from the CS?
Well just in PvE the jumps they make in between areas is huge later in the game. In weeping coast the L52 characters are 6k-8k hps, not to bad vs same level characters. But the next area, savage lands, the L53 enemies have ~20k hp & hit harder too. You on the other hand might(maybe) have an extra 500 - 1,000 hp over your 3k-8k you had last level.
This basically forces you to buy cs items.
Yes your diamonds can be used in the CS immediately.
Comments
I'd like to make to comments:
Forums for any game or anything on the internet are ripe with the "loud minority". That's not to say you can't get an accurate review or opinion, or answer to a question.
I quit using RoM's forums months ago. In my opinion you cannot base anything about any part of the game on what the majority in the forums are saying. RoM forums are best for finding specific answers like where does X drop, and so on.
Most of my friends told me they avoid WoW, EQ2 and Vanguards forums like the plague.
Secondly no one knows if or when someone is spending money on the game. This is not just in defense of Runes of Magic but many free-to-play MMORPGs.
There is no way to tell if you are even competing to any extent with cash shop users. I've run into just as many super geared players, who pay, and don't pay.
Even if you pay, how do you know that player you think you need to hurry up and spend money to compete with, hasn't played the game for 5 months longer than you?
The fact that people pay to get gear and other things in-game is such a smaller percentage of overall gameplay experience.
You don't know how they play. Maybe they only do a few quests a day, then spend all day chatting while sitting on a log.
The only way to feel the need to compete in a sub game is that you feel you need to hurry up and play more, faster, longer. That alone isn't true either.
You really have to step back and say, what is it I want to get out of this game? If you simply love min/maxing level and gear, that's fine, but people who spend months simply decorating there house are just as important and meaningful to the game. The game is meant for fun. If you have fun competing and feel the need to get the gear so you can compete with high level and high geared players, it just goes back to taking the time.
I do admit, that some players love to eat up parts of the game as fast as they can. The ones who are paying use this to move from one raid to the next at a much faster rate of speed than someone not paying. But that doesn't make them top of the server or better ranked at anything. And you will still be able to do any raid you want, get any gear you want, do anything you want, without paying.
But that is only with players who want to do the highest raid as soon as it comes out, and can't bare to work too long to get the gear in-game.
There are just too many things to think about.
The bottom line is nothing is more important than knowing the game let's you achieve, not just get, but "do" anything in the game you want.
You want to raid the highest dungeons? You can do it, you want to be a top PvPer? you can do it? and you don't have to pay.
I've played with players who never paid, and achieved everything they wanted, and burnt through all the raids fast.
A couple weeks from now, I will be stronger and have better gear than most, because I worked for it. Who won't I be able to compete with? and why?
Many F2P games are starting to come out with better run cash shops. It is becoming an old saying to say that cash shop puts people always above non-payers. That may have been true in the past, but it isn't anymore.
Many F2P games are not cash shop dependent at all these days.
You say "No matter how much time you spent in that game, you won't be as powerfull as someone who spends 50 euros every week" But that isn't true.
You can get and do everything in the game that a payer can. I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean that someone will be able to make a weapon faster? Because that is true, but you can still make that exact same weapon...or armor.
There is a limit to the weapons and other items in game. There is no magic new weapon above the current best in game, and non-payers and payers alike can get those.
I'm surprised people aren't arguing about the amount people spend. There's going to be some who can pay more than others, but no ones comparing that. Why not? if paying matters, wouldn't the amount you pay matter? But that isn't true. Anyone could tell, by how the game works, that someone who spent less could be more powerful than someone who spent more.
As another note: I've had 2 players in my guild at open beta, and knew others in top guild during that time, that went PvP and PKing people a lot, and they always get swear words and people yelling at them in zone chat "F'ing cash user" and similar. They laugh it off, because they and I all knew they never spent a dime on the game. Just food for thought.
Just One MMOre
Excellent point. i've been playing the game for like 5 months, and the only thing i ever paid for was a mount, and some misc. accessories to make the game easier/less travel intensive.
the only benefit to using the Cash Shop is that it all happens faster.
hah!, just wait until you hit ~L52 & visit the weeping coast for the first time!
You will be "WTF!?!?! how am i supposed to be able to kill that/those
"
i've already been there. looks hard.
Not sure why so many ppl talk about PVP. I could care less about PVP, I'm all about PVE!!! Battling others holds no allure for me whatsoever. I'm also a female player which is nothing special since I knew loads of female players on ROM last summer and hope to find some more this time around.
I played ROM last June of '09 and only played a few weeks. I have downloaded Allods Online which some say is even better than ROM and I'm considering re-downloading ROM to try it again. I don't like games with greedy CS systems but I know they must make money somehow. I thought ROM was fun the first time and I wonder how much it's progressed since last summer.
Also, if I choose to buy those diamond thingies with a Credit card to get a mount, will my in game money/diamonds be available immediately so I can get it from the CS?
Well just in PvE the jumps they make in between areas is huge later in the game. In weeping coast the L52 characters are 6k-8k hps, not to bad vs same level characters. But the next area, savage lands, the L53 enemies have ~20k hp & hit harder too. You on the other hand might(maybe) have an extra 500 - 1,000 hp over your 3k-8k you had last level.
This basically forces you to buy cs items.
Yes your diamonds can be used in the CS immediately.