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  • ColdmeatColdmeat Member UncommonPosts: 3,409


    Originally posted by BaFooN
    Everquest 2 has so much money to spend, and so many ways to raise money for the game and for profit (dont get me wrong) so im sure they will make this mmorpg the best anyone has ever seen, just because they can. Everything posted on their forums that is reasonable and not too expensive will probably happen. EQ2 will be the best mmorpg ever, and if anyone denies it, just know this, your wrong.

    Got any hard facts with which to back that up, sparky?

    If not, then you, as your name so aptly points out, have no clue what you're prattling on about.

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  • BaFooNBaFooN Member Posts: 239

    Why dont you go look it up you lazy moron, your obviously a disliker of EQ2, why do you even post here? If you have something negative to say, just do these 2 steps:

    1. Kill yourself

    2. Do it again if it doesnt work the first time because you seem like the type of person thats way too stupid to do something right on the first try.

  • ColdmeatColdmeat Member UncommonPosts: 3,409


    Originally posted by BaFooN
    Why dont you go look it up you lazy moron, your obviously a disliker of EQ2, why do you even post here? If you have something negative to say, just do these 2 steps:1. Kill yourself2. Do it again if it doesnt work the first time because you seem like the type of person thats way too stupid to do something right on the first try.

    I see. So what you're saying then, is that you have no clue, can't handle someone calling you on it, and should probably seek therapy for your psychotic break from reality.

    Now, someone tell me about WoW having all the kids after reading this literary masterpiece.

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  • BaFooNBaFooN Member Posts: 239

    Yes, because im being so immature, and cant handle a question. Well you cant answer one either, I asked you a question, why do you come here if just to put down and be rude? I did nothing except state the obvious, and you criticize immediately, why not prove me wrong instead of putting everything onto me? Next time think before posting, thanks! By the way, WoW will be filled with little kids much more immature than I am, and so what if I get mad when you call me a name, what is the point of calling someone a name if not to piss them off? Now respond more maturely next time please and stop criticizing and being a jerk, thanks.

  • rathmarathma Member UncommonPosts: 3,786

     Personally I think that people are just listening to what they want to hear. Anything talked negativley about this game is regarded as a "flame" and set aside as they look for more positive reviews to praise.

     No offense people, but this game does have flaws. I guess people aren't open enough to accept it.

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  • 92165449216544 Member Posts: 1,904

    Coldmeat, Im sick of hearing your rude comments. Why dont you actually just state your opinions with out bashing others. You are on Everquest 2 forums, not WoW. So stop bashing us pls.

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  • DekronDekron Member UncommonPosts: 7,359



    Originally posted by BaFooN

    Yes, because im being so immature, and cant handle a question. Well you cant answer one either, I asked you a question, why do you come here if just to put down and be rude? I did nothing except state the obvious, and you criticize immediately, why not prove me wrong instead of putting everything onto me? Next time think before posting, thanks! By the way, WoW will be filled with little kids much more immature than I am, and so what if I get mad when you call me a name, what is the point of calling someone a name if not to piss them off? Now respond more maturely next time please and stop criticizing and being a jerk, thanks.



    Ok, this is why the boards are going to the shitter.  Why get into these little flame wars?  I totally agree with Coldmeat.  If you are going to throw some general statement out, back it up by facts, not a bunch of information that looks like it was pulled out of your rectum.  You're the one who posted the "info", so you're the one who should provide the source.


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  • 92165449216544 Member Posts: 1,904


    Originally posted by dekron
    Originally posted by BaFooN
    Yes, because im being so immature, and cant handle a question. Well you cant answer one either, I asked you a question, why do you come here if just to put down and be rude? I did nothing except state the obvious, and you criticize immediately, why not prove me wrong instead of putting everything onto me? Next time think before posting, thanks! By the way, WoW will be filled with little kids much more immature than I am, and so what if I get mad when you call me a name, what is the point of calling someone a name if not to piss them off? Now respond more maturely next time please and stop criticizing and being a jerk, thanks.
    Ok, this is why the boards are going to the shitter. Why get into these little flame wars? I totally agree with Coldmeat. If you are going to throw some general statement out, back it up by facts, not a bunch of information that looks like it was pulled out of your rectum. You're the one who posted the "info", so you're the one who should provide the source.--------------------------------------------
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    That doesnt give Coldmeat the right to be a jerk about it. Its not just this post, but many others that I have read. I really do not think he could possibly be 32.


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  • AldrethAldreth Member UncommonPosts: 79

    Just ignore EQ2 haters, if they have nothing constructive to say that is. I will reinerate my experience with LAG in EQ2 for EVERYONE

     

    THERE WAS NONE

     

    commonlands/qeynos/freeport = NO LAG

    12pm/5pm/12am/3am/10am = NO LAG

    Fri/Sat/Sun/Mon/Tue/Wed/Thu = NOLAG

     

    I mean if you guys really want me to lie I can, I could easily type

    DON'T BUY THIS GAME IT SUCKS THE LAG IS HORRIBLE .000001/10

    But that would make me a WOW fanatic :)

    And as far as everyone giving this game bad reviews because they are all wow fanbois', well thats about the nicest way I can state it, otherwise I would just call you all idiots for not being able to figure out that this is a beta and there are going to be broken quests and missing content, but then, I would be a complete moron for stating such mean things.

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  • DekronDekron Member UncommonPosts: 7,359

    Just to clarify, I wasn't being an EQ2 hater, just agreeing that one should back their "facts" up with sources.  But on a side note, personally I won't play EQ2, WoW, or any other MMORPG for a long while.  I am burnt out on them as a whole.  I've gone back to RPGs for a while and even FPS shooters are keeping me more entertained.  It's just the same thing over and over. 

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  • starman999starman999 Member Posts: 1,232

    From what I have seen this game is basically an MMO on training wheels.

    This Forum is not for EQ fanatics to have one big circle jerk in. It is to discuss a game and its flaws as well as its successes. If you want to see only praise for a game go to an EQ fansite. These people are merely expressing their concern over known issues in the game that you may deny all you like but that doesnt make them any less true.

    If you are giving out information that you portray as factual then you had better damn well have the proof to back up that claim. If not then dont bother posting it. This is reminiscent of political bile where they spit out statistics that have absolutely no factual basis whatsoever.

    As far as number for a name guy goes, You have come to the defense of this game on every occasion with absolutely no valid information or proof with which to refute the claims of those who point out the glaring flaws in your beloved EQ2. Between You and Rhoklaw (who by the way at least attempts to back his statements up) you manage to completely discredit every other poster that defends EQ2 because they are thought to be associated with you.

    "98% of statistics are made up on the spot"

     


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  • ColdmeatColdmeat Member UncommonPosts: 3,409


    Originally posted by Aldreth
    Just ignore EQ2 haters, if they have nothing constructive to say that is. I will reinerate my experience with LAG in EQ2 for EVERYONE

    THERE WAS NONE

    commonlands/qeynos/freeport = NO LAG
    12pm/5pm/12am/3am/10am = NO LAG
    Fri/Sat/Sun/Mon/Tue/Wed/Thu = NOLAG

    I mean if you guys really want me to lie I can, I could easily type
    DON'T BUY THIS GAME IT SUCKS THE LAG IS HORRIBLE .000001/10
    But that would make me a WOW fanatic :)
    And as far as everyone giving this game bad reviews because they are all wow fanbois', well thats about the nicest way I can state it, otherwise I would just call you all idiots for not being able to figure out that this is a beta and there are going to be broken quests and missing content, but then, I would be a complete moron for stating such mean things.
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    While I've stated the lag is minimal, both server, and client, I have problems beliveing it when you say there is absolutely no lag. Particularly when there is a stickied thread on the Gameplay section of the beta forums, started by a dev, about the lag. People were still posting to it as of today, so obviously people are still experiencing it, even if it isn't as bad as it was.

    If it's easier for you to overexaggerate and label people as a WoW fanboi, an idiot, or whatever. then feel free, it's no skin off my teeth, but doing so does nothing to bolster your arguement. As for broken quests, and missing content, I believe I stated that they were working on that. However, they only have a 2, maybe 3 weeks left, unless they intend to push the release back to mid January.

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  • rathmarathma Member UncommonPosts: 3,786



    Originally posted by Aldreth

    THERE WAS NONE
     
    commonlands/qeynos/freeport = NO LAG



     Hmmm.....


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  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384


    commonlands/qeynos/freeport = NO LAG



    I don't think we were playing the same game mate.  Commonlands and the lands around Qeynos was very laggy. however, the DEVs has patched up a lot of the issues there.


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  • morkai2004morkai2004 Member Posts: 24



    Originally posted by Aldreth

    Soloing 10/10
    I got to level 10 in 5 hours, if that helps you understand how much better this is than EQ1. You also get bonuses for killing grouped mobs which you will just have to play and see what they are.
    Lag 9/10
    VERY MINIMAL, even in beta, it has actually been better than WOW's beta, and I would have to rate it the best for a beta that I have ever experienced, I have btw beta'd over 20 rpg's. The only lag I have noticed was when I turned up the graphical settings to way above what my pc could handle, then I got GRAPHIC lag, but thats the user's fault not the servers :P



    just picked two of the major things to comment upon...

    soloplay. try soloing past lvl 12 - 13. you will find maybe 2 mobs in an area of 20 mobs solo. with 5 players trying to solo you get to kill one mob every 5 minuts or so if your lucky for 0.02% xp.

    lag. did you leave the newbie islands?. antonica lag was and IS (as of today) running high. peak lag was around 10 minuts to cast a spell, trigger an ability. and no this isnt client lag. its server lag running wild.

    before i get flamed.

    im playing the beta, currently lvl 36 with my main, and lvl 26, 22 with two new characters to test their viability.

    game 1 - 10 is a tutorial. game 10 - x is a horrible grind with broken dynamics, and extremly liniar gameplay

  • Maabus1999Maabus1999 Member Posts: 104
    Wait so at the end you say your a WOW Fanboi, but then say anyone who disagrees with you is a WOW Fanboiimageimageimage???  So that implies you are disagreeing with yourself through the whole article and everything there is false? Did I solve the riddle and get my cookie nowimage?

  • ColdmeatColdmeat Member UncommonPosts: 3,409

    I'll steal their thunder and call you a WoW fanboi.

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  • Maabus1999Maabus1999 Member Posts: 104



    Originally posted by Coldmeat

    I'll steal their thunder and call you a WoW fanboi.

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    Hehe that for me??? If so, thats ok, as long as a I get a cookie for figuring out this corundum!  Personally I'm a cookie fanboi, and plan on buying the first MMO that is based around cookies.

  • ColdmeatColdmeat Member UncommonPosts: 3,409

    Yeah, see everyone that says mean things about EQ2 is a WoW fanboi. Whether or not you actually give a rats arse about the game or not.

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  • StamplickerStamplicker Member Posts: 3

    i use to be a WoW fan boi but about a month ago when i actually played beta for a little bit of WoW i quit that and went straight here and eq2 from what im reading seems a WHOLE lot better then WoW.

  • vamsevamse Member Posts: 97
    I have very little to no lag at all also, in either freeport or qeynos, playing in europe though, so things might be alot different then in the US.

  • AldrethAldreth Member UncommonPosts: 79

    I don't really care if anyone believes me or not, I get zero lag. I don't even know why I bother responding to anyone who doesn't believe my posts. It's like talking to a brick wall with some of you people.

     

    IN THE EVERQUEST 2 BETA I HAVE EXPERIENCED

    N-O-L-A-G

    I can respond to the next 5 people who quote my NOLAG as a lie right now.

    I GET NO LAG

    Besides, why do people come here, read my review, then bash me for being honest? And yes, I am a WOW fanboi, and yes I think EQ2 deserves alot of credit from my standpoint. Both games are going to be huge, it will just depend on what type of graphics people want more. The EQ2 realistic typish graphics or the N64'ish reallllllllllllllllllllllllll fantasy type WOW'ish graphics. Quite simply thats all it has come down to for me. I will be playing WOW, but EQ2's beta has been awesome for me, so I had to give it the props it deserves. If you guys fail to understand that I am being honest, well then, thats your fault. I don't really care if anyone believes me. But for me with my system specs as listed originally i get no lag, great graphics, great gameplay, at a smooth fps even in cities. I never have to wait for my spells to cast, I have NEVER gotten lag where my spell doesn't cast for 10 minutes, not even 10 seconds, 5 seconds, my spells have all cast the instant I hit the damn button. The only complaint I have had about this game at all is the hair/beards looking like they are glued on the models, the pets running wild while attacking mobs, the lack of diversity among classes, and a few broken quests. HOWEVER, this is beta so I cant complain about missing content - IE quests. If you are having problems with not being able to cast a spell for 10 minutes then unplug your 1200 baud modem, and get a real connection.

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  • Maabus1999Maabus1999 Member Posts: 104

    Your one of the few reporting no lag.  The most positive people say it's been an issue but has been fixed greatly the past week.  What level are you?  Maybe your not in the area everyone else is reporting the lag?  Non peak hours? Newer server? Not to doubt you at all, but you shouldn't doubt others either.  Maybe you should be specific about how you get no lag, because others may be interested, instead of saying everyone has crappy connections, when I bet some have better connections then a cable modem (yes they exist, and fairly commonly too).

    Oh about WoW being N64 graphics, I lauged pretty hard.  I just imagined if WoW really DID have N64 graphics say like zelda or mario.  Naa, you know they are way better then that, and if you have played in the past week, they have upped the quality ingame considerable.  Especially for Nvidia users (digital vibrance rules).  However I bet digitial vibrance rules in EQ 2 alsoimage.  Or at least I think it would...

      In fact I would give both games a 9.0+ on graphics, as they are using very different approaches but same basic technologies.  Edge possibly to EQ 2 IF It was consistently playable on a settings equal or better to WoW's, in my opinion.  However that remains to be seen.

  • AldrethAldreth Member UncommonPosts: 79

    LOL, the only reason I said N64'ish was because, thats really the only way I can explain WOW's graphics. There REALLY colorful :) Which is also why I said that it will come down to a decision between the end user and the games, which type of graphics they prefer, a real colorful fantasy setting or a more dark realistic approach. I personally like WOW's better, not because they are better looking than EQ2's but because of the colorful old rpg's I used to play. That and I am a huge blizzard fan.

    I really wouldn't know what to say to people about having bad lag, other than I feel sorry for ya, it's not that I don't believe its happening, its just that it hasn't happened to me. I gave my system specs, I did nothing special other than messing around with the performance options inside EQ2 for hours on end. I run on XP and have all the updates for it, along with all new drivers, flashed bios, and anything else that needed to be updated. I don't run any applications in the background either, I also run EQ2 on its own hard drive, I have nothing else on it except EQ2.

    I run the game at 1600X1200 at 70hz as well. It looks awesome that way, I also wanted to mention that in the options one of the things I turned down that made a large impact was the Character texture distance, I forgot the name of the option, EQ2 is currently being updated so I can't go in and check what it is, however, I will when it comes back up.


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  • ColdmeatColdmeat Member UncommonPosts: 3,409

    I think you're refering to the LOD draw distance? Might be something else, but I had to crank mine all the way up a few patches back because mobs were popping on top of me, and others as well.

    The only thing that I've noticed giving a real performance hit for me was the ground flora. I would normaly add shadows to the listm but I honestly haven't seen any difference in the various levels of shadows, other than on or off. I haven't tested to see what my fps was at minimal settings vs what I have it at now, which is pretty high, and running at 1600 x 1200 as well, which gives me 30 fps, which is plenty adequate for an MMOG.

    As for lag, well if you've avoided it, grats. The time or two I've been in a zone were it was happening was horrendous. Like a 1 to 2 minute delay on spells/skills. And it was a server lag issue as the mobs were suffering the same delay. So everything happened like normal, just in slow motion. Ugh. But, thankfully, I've only run into it once on beta 2. Beta 1 was much worse, mostly due to a higher pop at the time.

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