Doh, it says right in the rules that it is not legal to do so. You seem to have an aborted sense of right and wrong.
If you're talking about the EULA, then give it a good read, and see if it says that they can ban you for ANY reason they choose. I bet it does. There is no moral or ethical value to that.
If you went online and were telling players how much better the PvP was in a certain other game, they would have the legal power to ban you for that. Does that sound moral or ethical to you?
What I am saying is - they chose to allow players to remain logged in while AFK. Why, when other MMORPGs boot you out to the login screen?
What likely happened is that they underestimated the reaction to people doing this, and have made a pronouncement that it is 'wrong'. How many people have been banned for AFK leveling? They will likely say enough to placate those complaining about it, and let the players continue. That is because some bean-counter in a suit has determined that it will save the most subscriptions.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
Doh, it says right in the rules that it is not legal to do so. You seem to have an aborted sense of right and wrong.
If you're talking about the EULA, then give it a good read, and see if it says that they can ban you for ANY reason they choose. I bet it does. There is no moral or ethical value to that.
If you went online and were telling players how much better the PvP was in a certain other game, they would have the legal power to ban you for that. Does that sound moral or ethical to you?
What I am saying is - they chose to allow players to remain logged in while AFK. Why, when other MMORPGs boot you out to the login screen?
What likely happened is that they underestimated the reaction to people doing this, and have made a pronouncement that it is 'wrong'. How many people have been banned for AFK leveling? They will likely say enough to placate those complaining about it, and let the players continue. That is because some bean-counter in a suit has determined that it will save the most subscriptions.
From what I can tell you are trying to rationalize cheating to yourself and others because you are probably one of the "1337" people that cheat to compete. If thats the case get over it you are a exploiter and a cheater. The more I read about this games community the more relieved I am I didn't bother. So clans determine if you have a good experience? all I see are a bunch of pathetic little human beings, wearing their exploiting like a badge of honor in a article. Not that it matters much this article will be gone in a day or two anyway lol. Politics lol? what difference does it make if all the "elite" clans spend all their time at a blood wall.
Originally posted by treysmooth From what I can tell you are trying to rationalize cheating to yourself and others because you are probably one of the "1337" people that cheat to compete. If thats the case get over it you are a exploiter and a cheater. The more I read about this games community the more relieved I am I didn't bother. So clans determine if you have a good experience? all I see are a bunch of pathetic little human beings, wearing their exploiting like a badge of honor in a article. Not that it matters much this article will be gone in a day or two anyway lol. Politics lol? what difference does it make if all the "elite" clans spend all their time at a blood wall. GG
Read more than one of my posts before you judge me. I have stated clearly that I don't use cheats or macroes. I dion't even use combat addons in games that 'allow' them. Nor do I play this game.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
Originally posted by treysmooth From what I can tell you are trying to rationalize cheating to yourself and others because you are probably one of the "1337" people that cheat to compete. If thats the case get over it you are a exploiter and a cheater. The more I read about this games community the more relieved I am I didn't bother. So clans determine if you have a good experience? all I see are a bunch of pathetic little human beings, wearing their exploiting like a badge of honor in a article. Not that it matters much this article will be gone in a day or two anyway lol. Politics lol? what difference does it make if all the "elite" clans spend all their time at a blood wall. GG
Read more than one of my posts before you judge me. I have stated clearly that I don't use cheats or macroes. I dion't even use combat addons in games that 'allow' them. Nor do I play this game.
Actually it was after reading a couple of pages I concluded it. Regardless why would you defend the behavior of cheaters if you don't cheat yourself. They ruin the experience in most every game, that includes your experience ya know? Can ya see where I'm coming from?
As a result of the controversey surrounding the article, and wanting to be fair to both the article's author and to Aventurine and its players, I have emailed Tasos to simply ask the question of whether or not the activities described in the article are against the game's RoC.
Originally posted by Ionselon So, using your line of reasoning here, it would be ok if MMORPG.com published an article by someone on how to run your own private WoW server? After all, it's only journalism, right? And, after all, MMORPG.com doesn't condone it, so it's ok to publish it. Right? (Hint: the US courts don't happen to agree with you; websites are responsible for the information they choose to publish) Edit: Better idea. Publish an article on running a private server for DFO. If it is coded as poorly as has been reported, it should be no problem to port over to a private server.
First of all this guys did not say how you cheat but rather it was one of the things that his guild engaged in. Secondly, if it did say how you cheat that certainly is not illegal and hence not the same as your US court example, whatever that came from.
The article described how one guild came to be the first in achieving certain things in the game and reporting that is much better than hiding the fact that cheating is rampant in Darkfall. Censorship should have a strong reason and I fail to see one here.
get off your high horses people, god damn. i say congrats to you guys in ES. darkfall is about being hardcore to the extreme, av made it with that mindset.
so its pleasing to see people so into being the best that they would bust their asses that hard. its impressive
So "hardcore to the extreme'" is having the game play while you're off doing something else? And it's "busting your ass" to have the game play while you're gone?
I never knew that was one of the definations of hardcore....
lol exactly.
The new 'hardcore' is just all cheating.. afk macros, hacks, exploits, whatever, to win.
I mean, a player would only cheat to win if they thought they had no chance if they played according to the rules based on skill alone right? It's obvious that cheating just takes place make fights safer and the game generally easier for the cheater.
Originally posted by Ionselon So, using your line of reasoning here, it would be ok if MMORPG.com published an article by someone on how to run your own private WoW server? After all, it's only journalism, right? And, after all, MMORPG.com doesn't condone it, so it's ok to publish it. Right? (Hint: the US courts don't happen to agree with you; websites are responsible for the information they choose to publish) Edit: Better idea. Publish an article on running a private server for DFO. If it is coded as poorly as has been reported, it should be no problem to port over to a private server.
First of all this guys did not say how you cheat but rather it was one of the things that his guild engaged in. Secondly, if it did say how you cheat that certainly is not illegal and hence not the same as your US court example, whatever that came from.
The article described how one guild came to be the first in achieving certain things in the game and reporting that is much better than hiding the fact that cheating is rampant in Darkfall. Censorship should have a strong reason and I fail to see one here.
Actually, he did say how they cheated by saying they created a bloodwall so that peeps would log in with unearned xp.
Also, I never asked for the article to be removed. I was simply pointing out it was documenting obtaining goals against people who had no chance of beating them. If someone can get a sense of accomplishment from that, then the article succeeded...for them. To the rest of us, it just shows what shallow people they really are.
As a result of the controversey surrounding the article, and wanting to be fair to both the article's author and to Aventurine and its players, I have emailed Tasos to simply ask the question of whether or not the activities described in the article are against the game's RoC.
Lemme guess. No answer?
Yeah, I was wondering if there had been any response from Tasos.
Great read, and on a positive note too!! I am getting Tired of these nubs trashing a game most of them haven't even played. But this is a Game of emotion as you can loose all your stuff in a blink of a eye. Too bad we are at war and one day we will destoy your city hehehe nothing personal just a Game Just kidding well maybe....
Darkfall for a game is solid it requires some more content but I can only hope it will always require content Keep Steaming AV, I have been playing every since it was release on EU-1. And Yes I paid for it twice, and my Pings are 54 to 56.
And SHHHH about the Macro'ing never mention the word once, as for the blood wall it is a place you can AFK to other people can hit you with spells and Melee weapons. Nothing wrong with that at all.
Will AV make a change to have no skill gain with weapons and spell in town, well maybe one day but for now it is OK
Great read, and on a positive note too!! I am getting Tired of these nubs trashing a game most of them haven't even played. But this is a Game of emotion as you can loose all your stuff in a blink of a eye. Too bad we are at war and one day we will destoy your city hehehe nothing personal just a Game Just kidding well maybe.... Darkfall for a game is solid it requires some more content but I can only hope it will always require content Keep Steaming AV, I have been playing every since it was release on EU-1. And Yes I paid for it twice, and my Pings are 54 to 56. And SHHHH about the Macro'ing never mention the word once, as for the blood wall it is a place you can AFK to other people can hit you with spells and Melee weapons. Nothing wrong with that at all. Will AV make a change to have no skill gain with weapons and spell in town, well maybe one day but for now it is OK
Your name says it all. No further comment required.
Actually it was after reading a couple of pages I concluded it. Regardless why would you defend the behavior of cheaters if you don't cheat yourself. They ruin the experience in most every game, that includes your experience ya know? Can ya see where I'm coming from?
If I agreed that they were cheating, yes.
The only reason for an auto-log out (AFK) feature to be left out of the game is that the devs wanted people to be able to go AFK and remain in the game. If that is the case, doing so is not cheating. EVEN if the devs later say it's naughty.
If they are using some external means to automate their character while AFK, then that IS cheating (assuming the devs have said so) and they should be warned and banned if they persist.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
A bloodwall is ususlly a wall where characters setup for macroing or otherwise skill up while sleeping.
The game for the most part is trash for many reasons and the only ones to really blame are the devs. You can't blame players for what devs don't fix. Players only do what they are allowed to. The pve is probably the worst i've ever seen in any game as most of the mobs aren't worth the trouble to kill. The quests suck, there really is no content to speak of except for the pvp and its a total asian style grind from hell to catch up to an even playing field to the rest. The devs managed to put a grind where the pve and content should be as many pacific rim mmos do.
meh, it could have been a good game but was released unfinished.
I use to own a gaming review site and i believe in honesty. I had high hopes for df, however its a complete disappointment.
Originally posted by Ionselon So, using your line of reasoning here, it would be ok if MMORPG.com published an article by someone on how to run your own private WoW server? After all, it's only journalism, right? And, after all, MMORPG.com doesn't condone it, so it's ok to publish it. Right? (Hint: the US courts don't happen to agree with you; websites are responsible for the information they choose to publish) Edit: Better idea. Publish an article on running a private server for DFO. If it is coded as poorly as has been reported, it should be no problem to port over to a private server.
First of all this guys did not say how you cheat but rather it was one of the things that his guild engaged in. Secondly, if it did say how you cheat that certainly is not illegal and hence not the same as your US court example, whatever that came from.
The article described how one guild came to be the first in achieving certain things in the game and reporting that is much better than hiding the fact that cheating is rampant in Darkfall. Censorship should have a strong reason and I fail to see one here.
Actually, he did say how they cheated by saying they created a bloodwall so that peeps would log in with unearned xp.
Also, I never asked for the article to be removed. I was simply pointing out it was documenting obtaining goals against people who had no chance of beating them. If someone can get a sense of accomplishment from that, then the article succeeded...for them. To the rest of us, it just shows what shallow people they really are.
Saying "we did a bloodwall" is still not how. I for instance have no idea what a bloodwall is, should they have explained the steps required then that would be a how but simply saying bloodwall say very little unless you already know what a bloodwall is.
Anyway, maybe I mistook you for someone else who commented as to why mmorpg.com "condoned" cheating by publishing this article. That was what I was responding to. Showing that someone people engage in, alleged, unlawful activities is not the same as condoning it.
Actually it was after reading a couple of pages I concluded it. Regardless why would you defend the behavior of cheaters if you don't cheat yourself. They ruin the experience in most every game, that includes your experience ya know? Can ya see where I'm coming from?
If I agreed that they were cheating, yes.
The only reason for an auto-log out (AFK) feature to be left out of the game is that the devs wanted people to be able to go AFK and remain in the game. If that is the case, doing so is not cheating. EVEN if the devs later say it's naughty.
If they are using some external means to automate their character while AFK, then that IS cheating (assuming the devs have said so) and they should be warned and banned if they persist.
Gaining a unfair advantage with zero risk in a game all about risk/reward to me is the definition of cheating. I'm done with you in fact I kinda hope you join this failure of a game so that when you get raped by the afk macroers that have their skills maxed you can't say shit about it. Good luck with your messed up sense of right and wrong. I agree with the guy that said this is as carebear as it gets you lamers all enjoy your exploiters paradise I'll be playing games that require you to actually earn your skills thx.
Ummm....if they make it a bannable offense, then it is "wrong".
By that logic, anything that is illegal is immoral.
lol....who brought morality into the equation? As I said before your logic is flawed, and thus your credibility, at least in my eyes, is questionable. If you can't see AFK macroing as cheating when the devs have said as much, then further explaining would just be pointless.
get off your high horses people, god damn. i say congrats to you guys in ES. darkfall is about being hardcore to the extreme, av made it with that mindset.
so its pleasing to see people so into being the best that they would bust their asses that hard. its impressive
So "hardcore to the extreme'" is having the game play while you're off doing something else? And it's "busting your ass" to have the game play while you're gone?
I never knew that was one of the definations of hardcore....
no you dumbass. not the bloodwall, i was talking about them forming the guild, and building their city in that short of amount of time. its really impressive
and everyone in a guild with a city uses bloodwalls. everyone...
get off your high horses people, god damn. i say congrats to you guys in ES. darkfall is about being hardcore to the extreme, av made it with that mindset.
so its pleasing to see people so into being the best that they would bust their asses that hard. its impressive
So "hardcore to the extreme'" is having the game play while you're off doing something else? And it's "busting your ass" to have the game play while you're gone?
I never knew that was one of the definations of hardcore....
no you dumbass. not the bloodwall, i was talking about them forming the guild, and building their city in that short of amount of time. its really impressive
and everyone in a guild with a city uses bloodwalls. everyone...
LOLOLOL I don't even need to make a comment just read the red, absolutely priceless.
Yes the exodus syndicate has a bloodwall. No, people are not allowed to macro, auto run on it. Players who attempt such are killed and or reported.
When I said players awoke to skill-up, I mean they beat up afk players. Not that they woke up and had skillups. Please do not take my words out of context. Sorry for not responding sooner, had not realized someone would make such an assumption.
I am working on two new articles. One to teach new players how to group up and farm gold, the other will list some of the major alliances, and will include a colored map eve style to show areas of influence.
Yes I am a fan of the game. Please keep in mind I am not an un-biased writer. I am community correspondent because I am a fan of the game. You can not be a community correspondent if you are not a fan of the game. :-)
If Alliance leaders would like to submit me their battle reports for city sieges, and the results, I will be happy to try and get them posted on mmorpg.com. Please try and include screen shots. My email is Jeffery.dee.hargrove@live.com . Please only send large/major conflict write-ups. Anything with over 200 players will be considered large, 400 major.
Actually it was after reading a couple of pages I concluded it. Regardless why would you defend the behavior of cheaters if you don't cheat yourself. They ruin the experience in most every game, that includes your experience ya know? Can ya see where I'm coming from?
If I agreed that they were cheating, yes.
The only reason for an auto-log out (AFK) feature to be left out of the game is that the devs wanted people to be able to go AFK and remain in the game. If that is the case, doing so is not cheating. EVEN if the devs later say it's naughty.
If they are using some external means to automate their character while AFK, then that IS cheating (assuming the devs have said so) and they should be warned and banned if they persist.
Gaining a unfair advantage with zero risk in a game all about risk/reward to me is the definition of cheating. I'm done with you in fact I kinda hope you join this failure of a game so that when you get raped by the afk macroers that have their skills maxed you can't say shit about it. Good luck with your messed up sense of right and wrong. I agree with the guy that said this is as carebear as it gets you lamers all enjoy your exploiters paradise I'll be playing games that require you to actually earn your skills thx.
If you would like to ask Black Shields, Four Horsemen, LOD, UA, Sinister or any of the many clans who have successfully conducted raids into Erinthel city. Being afk in a player city is very risky. Congrats to those clans by the way.
When I said players awoke to skill-up, I mean they beat up afk players. Not that they woke up and had skillups. Please do not take my words out of context. Sorry for not responding sooner, had not realized someone would make such an assumption.
Even IF you don't afk macro as a guild, do you really think that beating on afk players to raise skills is what competitve PvP is all about though? Is that what defines DF to you as it's corrospondent here?
It's just my view on playing to achieve, but I would be ashamed to admit I played that way tbh, let alone be part of a whole guild that thinks that it's a good thing... I mean, the only reason to to take the challenge free route to raise skills this way is too make PvP and PvE easier right? To make the game safer for you guys as players? To give you all an unearned edge because you don't think you can cut it on an even field?
To me, that just sounds carebear. I personally wouldnt be bragging about it.
Also, can I ask as well, is your guild ARAC? Do you guys max out your faction this way as well?
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If you're talking about the EULA, then give it a good read, and see if it says that they can ban you for ANY reason they choose. I bet it does. There is no moral or ethical value to that.
If you went online and were telling players how much better the PvP was in a certain other game, they would have the legal power to ban you for that. Does that sound moral or ethical to you?
What I am saying is - they chose to allow players to remain logged in while AFK. Why, when other MMORPGs boot you out to the login screen?
What likely happened is that they underestimated the reaction to people doing this, and have made a pronouncement that it is 'wrong'. How many people have been banned for AFK leveling? They will likely say enough to placate those complaining about it, and let the players continue. That is because some bean-counter in a suit has determined that it will save the most subscriptions.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
I find it funny how everyones pussies start to bleed when Darkfall is the topic of discussion
we get it already, you don't like the game, you hate macro'ing, you hate darkfall, you hate av, you hate tasos, you want to play with his balls
WE GET IT
or do you need to spam it more?
If you're talking about the EULA, then give it a good read, and see if it says that they can ban you for ANY reason they choose. I bet it does. There is no moral or ethical value to that.
If you went online and were telling players how much better the PvP was in a certain other game, they would have the legal power to ban you for that. Does that sound moral or ethical to you?
What I am saying is - they chose to allow players to remain logged in while AFK. Why, when other MMORPGs boot you out to the login screen?
What likely happened is that they underestimated the reaction to people doing this, and have made a pronouncement that it is 'wrong'. How many people have been banned for AFK leveling? They will likely say enough to placate those complaining about it, and let the players continue. That is because some bean-counter in a suit has determined that it will save the most subscriptions.
From what I can tell you are trying to rationalize cheating to yourself and others because you are probably one of the "1337" people that cheat to compete. If thats the case get over it you are a exploiter and a cheater. The more I read about this games community the more relieved I am I didn't bother. So clans determine if you have a good experience? all I see are a bunch of pathetic little human beings, wearing their exploiting like a badge of honor in a article. Not that it matters much this article will be gone in a day or two anyway lol. Politics lol? what difference does it make if all the "elite" clans spend all their time at a blood wall.
GG
Read more than one of my posts before you judge me. I have stated clearly that I don't use cheats or macroes. I dion't even use combat addons in games that 'allow' them. Nor do I play this game.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
Read more than one of my posts before you judge me. I have stated clearly that I don't use cheats or macroes. I dion't even use combat addons in games that 'allow' them. Nor do I play this game.
Actually it was after reading a couple of pages I concluded it. Regardless why would you defend the behavior of cheaters if you don't cheat yourself. They ruin the experience in most every game, that includes your experience ya know? Can ya see where I'm coming from?
I'd say the article is a good summary of why no one should consider playing the game.
As such I say it should stay.
What I gleaned from the article
1. Macroing/unattended skllups still exists.
2. Mobs are still exploitable.
Lemme guess. No answer?
First of all this guys did not say how you cheat but rather it was one of the things that his guild engaged in. Secondly, if it did say how you cheat that certainly is not illegal and hence not the same as your US court example, whatever that came from.
The article described how one guild came to be the first in achieving certain things in the game and reporting that is much better than hiding the fact that cheating is rampant in Darkfall. Censorship should have a strong reason and I fail to see one here.
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So "hardcore to the extreme'" is having the game play while you're off doing something else? And it's "busting your ass" to have the game play while you're gone?
I never knew that was one of the definations of hardcore....
lol exactly.
The new 'hardcore' is just all cheating.. afk macros, hacks, exploits, whatever, to win.
I mean, a player would only cheat to win if they thought they had no chance if they played according to the rules based on skill alone right? It's obvious that cheating just takes place make fights safer and the game generally easier for the cheater.
Actually sounds very carebear to me.
First of all this guys did not say how you cheat but rather it was one of the things that his guild engaged in. Secondly, if it did say how you cheat that certainly is not illegal and hence not the same as your US court example, whatever that came from.
The article described how one guild came to be the first in achieving certain things in the game and reporting that is much better than hiding the fact that cheating is rampant in Darkfall. Censorship should have a strong reason and I fail to see one here.
Actually, he did say how they cheated by saying they created a bloodwall so that peeps would log in with unearned xp.
Also, I never asked for the article to be removed. I was simply pointing out it was documenting obtaining goals against people who had no chance of beating them. If someone can get a sense of accomplishment from that, then the article succeeded...for them. To the rest of us, it just shows what shallow people they really are.
Lemme guess. No answer?
Yeah, I was wondering if there had been any response from Tasos.
Great read, and on a positive note too!! I am getting Tired of these nubs trashing a game most of them haven't even played. But this is a Game of emotion as you can loose all your stuff in a blink of a eye. Too bad we are at war and one day we will destoy your city hehehe nothing personal just a Game Just kidding well maybe....
Darkfall for a game is solid it requires some more content but I can only hope it will always require content Keep Steaming AV, I have been playing every since it was release on EU-1. And Yes I paid for it twice, and my Pings are 54 to 56.
And SHHHH about the Macro'ing never mention the word once, as for the blood wall it is a place you can AFK to other people can hit you with spells and Melee weapons. Nothing wrong with that at all.
Will AV make a change to have no skill gain with weapons and spell in town, well maybe one day but for now it is OK
http://www.wowarmory.com/guild-info.xml?r=Malfurion&n=Lock+and+Shackles&p=1
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Your name says it all. No further comment required.
If I agreed that they were cheating, yes.
The only reason for an auto-log out (AFK) feature to be left out of the game is that the devs wanted people to be able to go AFK and remain in the game. If that is the case, doing so is not cheating. EVEN if the devs later say it's naughty.
If they are using some external means to automate their character while AFK, then that IS cheating (assuming the devs have said so) and they should be warned and banned if they persist.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
A bloodwall is ususlly a wall where characters setup for macroing or otherwise skill up while sleeping.
The game for the most part is trash for many reasons and the only ones to really blame are the devs. You can't blame players for what devs don't fix. Players only do what they are allowed to. The pve is probably the worst i've ever seen in any game as most of the mobs aren't worth the trouble to kill. The quests suck, there really is no content to speak of except for the pvp and its a total asian style grind from hell to catch up to an even playing field to the rest. The devs managed to put a grind where the pve and content should be as many pacific rim mmos do.
meh, it could have been a good game but was released unfinished.
I use to own a gaming review site and i believe in honesty. I had high hopes for df, however its a complete disappointment.
First of all this guys did not say how you cheat but rather it was one of the things that his guild engaged in. Secondly, if it did say how you cheat that certainly is not illegal and hence not the same as your US court example, whatever that came from.
The article described how one guild came to be the first in achieving certain things in the game and reporting that is much better than hiding the fact that cheating is rampant in Darkfall. Censorship should have a strong reason and I fail to see one here.
Actually, he did say how they cheated by saying they created a bloodwall so that peeps would log in with unearned xp.
Also, I never asked for the article to be removed. I was simply pointing out it was documenting obtaining goals against people who had no chance of beating them. If someone can get a sense of accomplishment from that, then the article succeeded...for them. To the rest of us, it just shows what shallow people they really are.
Saying "we did a bloodwall" is still not how. I for instance have no idea what a bloodwall is, should they have explained the steps required then that would be a how but simply saying bloodwall say very little unless you already know what a bloodwall is.
Anyway, maybe I mistook you for someone else who commented as to why mmorpg.com "condoned" cheating by publishing this article. That was what I was responding to. Showing that someone people engage in, alleged, unlawful activities is not the same as condoning it.
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If I agreed that they were cheating, yes.
The only reason for an auto-log out (AFK) feature to be left out of the game is that the devs wanted people to be able to go AFK and remain in the game. If that is the case, doing so is not cheating. EVEN if the devs later say it's naughty.
If they are using some external means to automate their character while AFK, then that IS cheating (assuming the devs have said so) and they should be warned and banned if they persist.
Gaining a unfair advantage with zero risk in a game all about risk/reward to me is the definition of cheating. I'm done with you in fact I kinda hope you join this failure of a game so that when you get raped by the afk macroers that have their skills maxed you can't say shit about it. Good luck with your messed up sense of right and wrong. I agree with the guy that said this is as carebear as it gets you lamers all enjoy your exploiters paradise I'll be playing games that require you to actually earn your skills thx.
By that logic, anything that is illegal is immoral.
lol....who brought morality into the equation? As I said before your logic is flawed, and thus your credibility, at least in my eyes, is questionable. If you can't see AFK macroing as cheating when the devs have said as much, then further explaining would just be pointless.
So glad that the OP and most of the posters here reaffirmed my idea on what the community will be like in this game.
So "hardcore to the extreme'" is having the game play while you're off doing something else? And it's "busting your ass" to have the game play while you're gone?
I never knew that was one of the definations of hardcore....
no you dumbass. not the bloodwall, i was talking about them forming the guild, and building their city in that short of amount of time. its really impressive
and everyone in a guild with a city uses bloodwalls. everyone...
So "hardcore to the extreme'" is having the game play while you're off doing something else? And it's "busting your ass" to have the game play while you're gone?
I never knew that was one of the definations of hardcore....
no you dumbass. not the bloodwall, i was talking about them forming the guild, and building their city in that short of amount of time. its really impressive
and everyone in a guild with a city uses bloodwalls. everyone...
LOLOLOL I don't even need to make a comment just read the red, absolutely priceless.
GG
Yes the exodus syndicate has a bloodwall. No, people are not allowed to macro, auto run on it. Players who attempt such are killed and or reported.
When I said players awoke to skill-up, I mean they beat up afk players. Not that they woke up and had skillups. Please do not take my words out of context. Sorry for not responding sooner, had not realized someone would make such an assumption.
I am working on two new articles. One to teach new players how to group up and farm gold, the other will list some of the major alliances, and will include a colored map eve style to show areas of influence.
Yes I am a fan of the game. Please keep in mind I am not an un-biased writer. I am community correspondent because I am a fan of the game. You can not be a community correspondent if you are not a fan of the game. :-)
If Alliance leaders would like to submit me their battle reports for city sieges, and the results, I will be happy to try and get them posted on mmorpg.com. Please try and include screen shots. My email is Jeffery.dee.hargrove@live.com . Please only send large/major conflict write-ups. Anything with over 200 players will be considered large, 400 major.
If I agreed that they were cheating, yes.
The only reason for an auto-log out (AFK) feature to be left out of the game is that the devs wanted people to be able to go AFK and remain in the game. If that is the case, doing so is not cheating. EVEN if the devs later say it's naughty.
If they are using some external means to automate their character while AFK, then that IS cheating (assuming the devs have said so) and they should be warned and banned if they persist.
Gaining a unfair advantage with zero risk in a game all about risk/reward to me is the definition of cheating. I'm done with you in fact I kinda hope you join this failure of a game so that when you get raped by the afk macroers that have their skills maxed you can't say shit about it. Good luck with your messed up sense of right and wrong. I agree with the guy that said this is as carebear as it gets you lamers all enjoy your exploiters paradise I'll be playing games that require you to actually earn your skills thx.
If you would like to ask Black Shields, Four Horsemen, LOD, UA, Sinister or any of the many clans who have successfully conducted raids into Erinthel city. Being afk in a player city is very risky. Congrats to those clans by the way.
Rest assured going afk is not against the rules. Unless a player uses a third party macro, Auto-runs, or Auto-swims.
For any quistions regarding Darkfall rules and or policies, please read this thread from the official darkfall forums website.
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=191365
Even IF you don't afk macro as a guild, do you really think that beating on afk players to raise skills is what competitve PvP is all about though? Is that what defines DF to you as it's corrospondent here?
It's just my view on playing to achieve, but I would be ashamed to admit I played that way tbh, let alone be part of a whole guild that thinks that it's a good thing... I mean, the only reason to to take the challenge free route to raise skills this way is too make PvP and PvE easier right? To make the game safer for you guys as players? To give you all an unearned edge because you don't think you can cut it on an even field?
To me, that just sounds carebear. I personally wouldnt be bragging about it.
Also, can I ask as well, is your guild ARAC? Do you guys max out your faction this way as well?