What the hell are you talking about? Can you please stop putting words in my mouth. I wasn't dismissing any professional reviews simply because of their profession, stop typing shit. I read the reviews before I played the game, I played the game and then I found fault with the reviews. That's it. Imo they simply rated it too highly for what it was.
Also stop trying to sound smart talking about my lack of logical process, that whole first paragraph is nothing but rhetoric. It actually made me smile a bit.
You missed my point about AoC, professional reviewers rated this game highly, despite the obvious flaws after tortage, which you just mentioned yourself, it does put their credibilities into question sometimes does it not?
Bottom line is you dismissed my view because it didn't agree with yours, and read ababba's post AGAIN, if I can't hammer it through your thick skull maybe a different poster can.
Could you please stop putting words in my mouth?
I wasn't refering simply to you. Notice words like "people" instead of "you" or "bigdavo".
I have be arguing your logical process this entire time, yet you refuse to say anything other than "you're and idiot"
I have never said "your wrong, TW is a good game and your stupid."
You're taking my criticism of your logical process and somehow spinning it into personal insults.
I never "dismissed your views"
I've only every said I liked the game once, maybe twice; If you go back and again read what I've wrote, you'd notice I've never even said its a good/bad game.
Let me try this again.
I am ONLY critiquing your logical process.
ITS NOT YOUR OPINION I'M TRYING TO ARGUE.
You're insulting me for dismissing your view when I've never done that, all I've dismissed is your wanton disregard for logical process.
'Your just another guy with a very strong opinion that nobody cares about - no matter how many exclamation marks you use.'
'but I think you missed the point when I was dismissing your view simply because you're a nobody on a forum'
And you wonder why I think you're an idiot... I especially liked the second one. The only logical process you should be critiquing at this stage is yours.
What the hell are you talking about? Can you please stop putting words in my mouth. I wasn't dismissing any professional reviews simply because of their profession, stop typing shit. I read the reviews before I played the game, I played the game and then I found fault with the reviews. That's it. Imo they simply rated it too highly for what it was.
Also stop trying to sound smart talking about my lack of logical process, that whole first paragraph is nothing but rhetoric. It actually made me smile a bit.
You missed my point about AoC, professional reviewers rated this game highly, despite the obvious flaws after tortage, which you just mentioned yourself, it does put their credibilities into question sometimes does it not?
Bottom line is you dismissed my view because it didn't agree with yours, and read ababba's post AGAIN, if I can't hammer it through your thick skull maybe a different poster can.
Could you please stop putting words in my mouth?
I wasn't refering simply to you. Notice words like "people" instead of "you" or "bigdavo".
I have be arguing your logical process this entire time, yet you refuse to say anything other than "you're and idiot"
I have never said "your wrong, TW is a good game and your stupid."
You're taking my criticism of your logical process and somehow spinning it into personal insults.
I never "dismissed your views"
I've only every said I liked the game once, maybe twice; If you go back and again read what I've wrote, you'd notice I've never even said its a good/bad game.
Let me try this again.
I am ONLY critiquing your logical process.
ITS NOT YOUR OPINION I'M TRYING TO ARGUE.
You're insulting me for dismissing your view when I've never done that, all I've dismissed is your wanton disregard for logical process.
'Your just another guy with a very strong opinion that nobody cares about - no matter how many exclamation marks you use.'
'but I think you missed the point when I was dismissing your view simply because you're a nobody on a forum'
And you wonder why I think you're an idiot... I especially liked the second one. The only logical process you should be critiquing at this stage is yours.
lol, I really don't even know what to say at this point.
This is pointless I'm out :P
after 6 or so years, I had to change it a little...
I rather like the game, but I only play the campaign mode (I'm not a fan of the RTS battles). It's a far cry from Civilization, but it's a nice change of pace. I also know how to avoid crashes and I also avoid parts of the game that are messed up or imbalanced.
The best player mods can make a big difference.
By the way, user ratings on Metacritic or Amazon are wildly inaccurate as well because a huge percentage of them ripped the game because of the sheer mass of bugs. People often give the game the lowest possible rating when constant crashes prevent them from playing properly.
Originally posted by fervor By the way, user ratings on Metacritic or Amazon are wildly inaccurate as well because a huge percentage of them ripped the game because of the sheer mass of bugs. People often give the game the lowest possible rating when constant crashes prevent them from playing properly.
How is that wildly inaccurate? Are people supposed to overlook gamebreaking bugs or "constant crashes that prevent them from playing properly" when they review a game?
A game shouldn't need 3 patches or a mod to be playable. If game companies like Creative Assembly want their products to get good reviews they should be complete, playable and as bug free as possible. If companies insist on releasing bug infested turds and then patching them to a playable state over the next 6 months then they deserve nothing more than bad reviews from gamers.
This is a huge problem with PC games, one that consoles largely avoid.
How is that wildly inaccurate? Are people supposed to overlook gamebreaking bugs or "constant crashes that prevent them from playing properly" when they review a game? A game shouldn't need 3 patches or a mod to be playable. If game companies like Creative Assembly want their products to get good reviews they should be complete, playable and as bug free as possible. If companies insist on releasing bug infested turds and then patching them to a playable state over the next 6 months then they deserve nothing more than bad reviews from gamers. This is a huge problem with PC games, one that consoles largely avoid.
I don't disagree with you that buggy PC games are a problem, but...
When you rate or review a game, does stability >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gameplay? Let's say that the buggy game in question was Half-Life 2. Does that mean that it deserves a 1 out of 5 score, when the game itself is so great?
Users will kill ratings for other non-gaming related factors as well, especially copy protection. There are a lot of PC games that have horrible user ratings because of the copy protection.
To be fair, it's a general problem with rating or reviewing games. There is no universally agreed upon criteria for judging games.
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What the hell are you talking about? Can you please stop putting words in my mouth. I wasn't dismissing any professional reviews simply because of their profession, stop typing shit. I read the reviews before I played the game, I played the game and then I found fault with the reviews. That's it. Imo they simply rated it too highly for what it was.
Also stop trying to sound smart talking about my lack of logical process, that whole first paragraph is nothing but rhetoric. It actually made me smile a bit.
You missed my point about AoC, professional reviewers rated this game highly, despite the obvious flaws after tortage, which you just mentioned yourself, it does put their credibilities into question sometimes does it not?
Bottom line is you dismissed my view because it didn't agree with yours, and read ababba's post AGAIN, if I can't hammer it through your thick skull maybe a different poster can.
Could you please stop putting words in my mouth?
I wasn't refering simply to you. Notice words like "people" instead of "you" or "bigdavo".
I have be arguing your logical process this entire time, yet you refuse to say anything other than "you're and idiot"
I have never said "your wrong, TW is a good game and your stupid."
You're taking my criticism of your logical process and somehow spinning it into personal insults.
I never "dismissed your views"
I've only every said I liked the game once, maybe twice; If you go back and again read what I've wrote, you'd notice I've never even said its a good/bad game.
Let me try this again.
I am ONLY critiquing your logical process.
ITS NOT YOUR OPINION I'M TRYING TO ARGUE.
You're insulting me for dismissing your view when I've never done that, all I've dismissed is your wanton disregard for logical process.
'Your just another guy with a very strong opinion that nobody cares about - no matter how many exclamation marks you use.'
'but I think you missed the point when I was dismissing your view simply because you're a nobody on a forum'
And you wonder why I think you're an idiot... I especially liked the second one. The only logical process you should be critiquing at this stage is yours.
O_o o_O
What the hell are you talking about? Can you please stop putting words in my mouth. I wasn't dismissing any professional reviews simply because of their profession, stop typing shit. I read the reviews before I played the game, I played the game and then I found fault with the reviews. That's it. Imo they simply rated it too highly for what it was.
Also stop trying to sound smart talking about my lack of logical process, that whole first paragraph is nothing but rhetoric. It actually made me smile a bit.
You missed my point about AoC, professional reviewers rated this game highly, despite the obvious flaws after tortage, which you just mentioned yourself, it does put their credibilities into question sometimes does it not?
Bottom line is you dismissed my view because it didn't agree with yours, and read ababba's post AGAIN, if I can't hammer it through your thick skull maybe a different poster can.
Could you please stop putting words in my mouth?
I wasn't refering simply to you. Notice words like "people" instead of "you" or "bigdavo".
I have be arguing your logical process this entire time, yet you refuse to say anything other than "you're and idiot"
I have never said "your wrong, TW is a good game and your stupid."
You're taking my criticism of your logical process and somehow spinning it into personal insults.
I never "dismissed your views"
I've only every said I liked the game once, maybe twice; If you go back and again read what I've wrote, you'd notice I've never even said its a good/bad game.
Let me try this again.
I am ONLY critiquing your logical process.
ITS NOT YOUR OPINION I'M TRYING TO ARGUE.
You're insulting me for dismissing your view when I've never done that, all I've dismissed is your wanton disregard for logical process.
'Your just another guy with a very strong opinion that nobody cares about - no matter how many exclamation marks you use.'
'but I think you missed the point when I was dismissing your view simply because you're a nobody on a forum'
And you wonder why I think you're an idiot... I especially liked the second one. The only logical process you should be critiquing at this stage is yours.
lol, I really don't even know what to say at this point.
This is pointless I'm out :P
after 6 or so years, I had to change it a little...
Quit bickering and get back on topic you two
What accounts for the disconnect in the scores given by "professional" reviewers, and those given by average gamers? See my previous post for details.
I rather like the game, but I only play the campaign mode (I'm not a fan of the RTS battles). It's a far cry from Civilization, but it's a nice change of pace. I also know how to avoid crashes and I also avoid parts of the game that are messed up or imbalanced.
The best player mods can make a big difference.
By the way, user ratings on Metacritic or Amazon are wildly inaccurate as well because a huge percentage of them ripped the game because of the sheer mass of bugs. People often give the game the lowest possible rating when constant crashes prevent them from playing properly.
Yeah, no kidding lol.
O_o o_O
How is that wildly inaccurate? Are people supposed to overlook gamebreaking bugs or "constant crashes that prevent them from playing properly" when they review a game?
A game shouldn't need 3 patches or a mod to be playable. If game companies like Creative Assembly want their products to get good reviews they should be complete, playable and as bug free as possible. If companies insist on releasing bug infested turds and then patching them to a playable state over the next 6 months then they deserve nothing more than bad reviews from gamers.
This is a huge problem with PC games, one that consoles largely avoid.
I don't disagree with you that buggy PC games are a problem, but...
When you rate or review a game, does stability >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gameplay? Let's say that the buggy game in question was Half-Life 2. Does that mean that it deserves a 1 out of 5 score, when the game itself is so great?
Users will kill ratings for other non-gaming related factors as well, especially copy protection. There are a lot of PC games that have horrible user ratings because of the copy protection.
To be fair, it's a general problem with rating or reviewing games. There is no universally agreed upon criteria for judging games.