Aion is more appealing to me but that’s me. I played City of Villains and while I think it was a cool game with fun char customization, the game lacked depth. Champions looks pretyt much like that. It’s probably better but from my angle, AION appears to actually bring something solid at the end-game.
The truth is… one or the other will probably hold me for a maximum of 6 months.
I can only give my experience, which was the polish of Aion's CB. I loved the content and there weren't any content or frame-rate issues.
I was interested in Champions, but Aion is more of my type of game.
I'm also not interested in paying box price + subscription and not having access to all the items in the game unless I use an item mall for more money. That gave me the big turn away from Champions.
Champions has a lot of variety and choice compared to Aion and has crafting thats important to the game.
Either game is good tbh.
howdy Jim
You gonna be playing either?
hello still playing spellborn or did you give up in the end?
Ill probably give both a go. Aion looks like itll have the long term appeal imo, plus its probably the most polished MMO ive yet played, and thats from a laggy asian server.
Ahh gave up a bit before that game imploded.. made me sad though.
Give me a tell if you start Aion ok?
Agreed - the collapse of Spellborn was a shame. It was a breath of fresh air, and I would have really enjoyed it if it had become a living breathing MMO world, with players in it. Sigh.
Anyway, back to the original issue, after playing more Champions I am really quite hooked.
It's always hard to tell how long a love affair with a new game will last - some are all up front, some are slow growers. CO seems like the former, Aion seems like the latter.
But champions did the thing that I like in MMOs.. it gave a sense of possibility, of messing around with a character for hours, trying things out, mixing and matching. Aion seemed very po-faced by comparison.
Who knows, no doubt I will eventually try Aion release, being an MMO lover - I find it hard to stay away.
But for the time being Champions has - how shall I say it - more joy to it. More of a sense of simple, escapist fun.
That said, I would ditch both in a heartbeat if any MMO company could come up with a large contiguous world that works. I quit WOW a while back, and hated its end game treadmill, but the world it created was second to none. Really, an extraordinary achievement. Nothing has come close since... I really wonder why. Are Blizzard so much more techincally competent?
Wow I don't know whether to hate you or love you. lol I love it. Although I pick Aion hands down over Champions Online. CO is a shallow game which the developers know won't retain subs so they are selling lifetime subs and micro transactions to make up for it. Tisk tisk Cryptic people will see through your greedy ways. It is only downhill from here...
Now this is what its all about.. Competition.. I believe I have seen it almost 60/40 or even 50/50 for those in favor of Aion over CO... With even Fallen Earth not too far behind, I think we see the shift of mmo "power" coming september. Unless blizzard has an expansion or something coming out to keep people interested in WoW?
I have not played aion, but i have done a few days (last weekend) on CO beta. I never played CoX because i couldnt fathom how you could feel like a superhero when EVERYONE was a superhero. Now that i've played CO, i kinda wish i had given CoX a chance. Assuming they did it similarly. The breakup of zones into multiple versions makes it so you are not as common as you really are on a server, in a player/npc ratio. Not quite instances per se, but works out about the same way.
Have to agree with the OP though on the customization and feeling like a badass right from the start of CO though, and depending on where you pre-order you might even get to fly from minute 1 (normally takes a little bit doing a tutorial level)
Having quit wow earlier this year (i thought for good) i've been looking for the "next big thing" for a while, and so far everything else just seems to lose my interest after a short time. Even starting last year with Age of Conan and Warhammer online - although both of them had their own inherint problems, vastly differnet from one another. They were great for a little while, but lost me : AoC because it just basically was 6-12 months from release state, once you got above about level 30 - and WAR because they did too many server splits too quickly because they couldnt deal with lag well enough, and couldnt fix it, which left you shortly thereafter with servers that were too sparsely populated to even attempt any RvR aside from the instanced BGs (forget what they actually called em) and those got old real fast. World pvp is almost always more exciting, especially when it has a good reward system like war had.
Maybe i'll go drop 5 bucks on Aion when i preorder my CO and give it a try in beta (unless i can get in without) and see which one i like better myself. Biggest problem i have in mmos lately is finding a guild. I've never done well with random pug type guilds, and i end up getting behind on stuff because i solo too long while trying to meet people and find a decent bunch i get along with, and as of right now, none of my RL friends or friends from wow (most of which are RL also) are planning to play either Aion or CO.
Edit : Vyeth, blizzard doesnt really need to do anything to keep people playing, they still have well over 10 million subs. It's the mmo for dummies solution. Dont get me wrong i enjoyed it for a long time, i just finally got sick of class imbalance and mostly boredom. Nothing wrong with people still playing it, it boils down to what you want to spend your time doing. I want something new. Superhero game seems like a good idea. Though i was REALLY looking forward to Jumpgate Evolution, supposedly coming out sept 1st as well, but they havent entered beta yet so that isnt happening =P
Maybe i'll go drop 5 bucks on Aion when i preorder my CO and give it a try in beta (unless i can get in without) and see which one i like better myself. Biggest problem i have in mmos lately is finding a guild. I've never done well with random pug type guilds, and i end up getting behind on stuff because i solo too long while trying to meet people and find a decent bunch i get along with, and as of right now, none of my RL friends or friends from wow (most of which are RL also) are planning to play either Aion or CO.
For community reasons CO seems the stronger of the two as dispite it being sharded into channels it is still one sever, if you have seen EVE dispite it having smaller numbers then most server based MMOs it still feels very large and active, finidng a guild in CO wont be a problem and even if the game does drop in numbers server mergers and empitness wont be an issue - also iirc players can scale down (or up i forget) to match their friends so you can still play no matter where you are.
Both are looking strong titles (which is very promising for the industry) but for ease of community I beleave CO would be the better option
Just to clarify something people are bringing up about cash shop + sub. First - they said cash shop items would almost entirely be cosmetic and anything that was stat based or development would also be available in game, so who cares. If people want to spend money on their barbie doll pixels, let em feed the fuel. Long as it doesnt give them faster flight, levelling xp etc like the crap that separates the people who pay and dont in typical free to play games.
and secondly someone said the following "So I pay 50$ to help pay the cost for development. I pay 15$ a month for servers and customer support. 50$ for expansion content. The usually MT are for account changes, character transfer, and renaming. This usually takes extra support so they charge them for it."
What you dont understand (clearly) is that when you buy a retail copy of a game, for lets say 50 bucks, the company sees only a portion of that, most of that goes to the retailer. The amount that the retailer paid the game company doesnt actually go to the game company, or developer, in this case Cryptic - it goes to the publisher, Atari. The subscriptions are what go directly to the developer. Not always the case, but typically that's the model for publiser/developer relationships when it comes to cost/profit from mmos.
Edit : Yeah Kremlik, it's called Sidekicking. You can tone yourself down to a groupmate's level, or bring them up to yours. There's an article (or maybe was a video) about it linked here someplace. IF it's not here it's definitely on the CO forums.
I'm still trying to figure out how the OP could even compare the two games. There's no real comparison here. One's fantasy and the other's present-to-near future superhero. Comparing the gameplay of the two, Champions is far superior. Graphics are two different styles so you can't really compare. Both look amazing at max settings...
Do some research. Stop comparing games that are not comparable.
Super-hero customization PvE game being compared to Winged human faction PvP game?
Not really what I had in mind in the terms of an MMO brawl out. The two games are different in so many ways. Sure, they have customization, but do they really need to be decided on? I have played both betas and I know for a fact, they are barely comparable. Personally, each tailor to their own player base very damn well. I will be playing both for sure. Guess the OP won't be, taking into consideration the absolutely "non-biased" review he gave of the two games .
*sarcastic snare at OP*
Currently playing: Star Wars: The Old Republic, World of Warcraft, Dota 2, League of Legends
Waiting on: Blade & Soul, Guild Wars 2, Tera, Kingdoms of Amular, Firefall
I really enjoyed CoH as it is the MMO that pulled me back into MMOs when I was bored of the current ones out there. I had a really good time but got bored when there was nothing to do once you were max level. When I heard of Champions I was hoping it would be like CoH 2 since it was being made by Cryptic but at this point after being in beta for a few months I don't think I'll be buying it. I prefer the CoH combat to the CO combat by a long shot. I finally get to take a look at Aion this weekend so I'll see how it is finally. I'm just tired of playing WoW but was bored during my month break of it because there wasn't anything out there to hold my interest.
I mean, they are recylcing more content for 3.2.2 ugh
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Aion is more appealing to me but that’s me. I played City of Villains and while I think it was a cool game with fun char customization, the game lacked depth. Champions looks pretyt much like that. It’s probably better but from my angle, AION appears to actually bring something solid at the end-game.
The truth is… one or the other will probably hold me for a maximum of 6 months.
Apparently both are pretty good games, and appeal to different gamers.
That's a good thing, more good games to choose from.
I can only give my experience, which was the polish of Aion's CB. I loved the content and there weren't any content or frame-rate issues.
I was interested in Champions, but Aion is more of my type of game.
I'm also not interested in paying box price + subscription and not having access to all the items in the game unless I use an item mall for more money. That gave me the big turn away from Champions.
howdy Jim
You gonna be playing either?
hello
still playing spellborn or did you give up in the end?
Ill probably give both a go. Aion looks like itll have the long term appeal imo, plus its probably the most polished MMO ive yet played, and thats from a laggy asian server.
Ahh gave up a bit before that game imploded.. made me sad though.
Give me a tell if you start Aion ok?
Agreed - the collapse of Spellborn was a shame. It was a breath of fresh air, and I would have really enjoyed it if it had become a living breathing MMO world, with players in it. Sigh.
Anyway, back to the original issue, after playing more Champions I am really quite hooked.
It's always hard to tell how long a love affair with a new game will last - some are all up front, some are slow growers. CO seems like the former, Aion seems like the latter.
But champions did the thing that I like in MMOs.. it gave a sense of possibility, of messing around with a character for hours, trying things out, mixing and matching. Aion seemed very po-faced by comparison.
Who knows, no doubt I will eventually try Aion release, being an MMO lover - I find it hard to stay away.
But for the time being Champions has - how shall I say it - more joy to it. More of a sense of simple, escapist fun.
That said, I would ditch both in a heartbeat if any MMO company could come up with a large contiguous world that works. I quit WOW a while back, and hated its end game treadmill, but the world it created was second to none. Really, an extraordinary achievement. Nothing has come close since... I really wonder why. Are Blizzard so much more techincally competent?
Someone in Champions made what all Aion players look like
http://www.champions-online.com/rate_my_champion/513347
Wow I don't know whether to hate you or love you. lol I love it. Although I pick Aion hands down over Champions Online. CO is a shallow game which the developers know won't retain subs so they are selling lifetime subs and micro transactions to make up for it. Tisk tisk Cryptic people will see through your greedy ways. It is only downhill from here...
Now this is what its all about.. Competition.. I believe I have seen it almost 60/40 or even 50/50 for those in favor of Aion over CO... With even Fallen Earth not too far behind, I think we see the shift of mmo "power" coming september. Unless blizzard has an expansion or something coming out to keep people interested in WoW?
I have not played aion, but i have done a few days (last weekend) on CO beta. I never played CoX because i couldnt fathom how you could feel like a superhero when EVERYONE was a superhero. Now that i've played CO, i kinda wish i had given CoX a chance. Assuming they did it similarly. The breakup of zones into multiple versions makes it so you are not as common as you really are on a server, in a player/npc ratio. Not quite instances per se, but works out about the same way.
Have to agree with the OP though on the customization and feeling like a badass right from the start of CO though, and depending on where you pre-order you might even get to fly from minute 1 (normally takes a little bit doing a tutorial level)
Having quit wow earlier this year (i thought for good) i've been looking for the "next big thing" for a while, and so far everything else just seems to lose my interest after a short time. Even starting last year with Age of Conan and Warhammer online - although both of them had their own inherint problems, vastly differnet from one another. They were great for a little while, but lost me : AoC because it just basically was 6-12 months from release state, once you got above about level 30 - and WAR because they did too many server splits too quickly because they couldnt deal with lag well enough, and couldnt fix it, which left you shortly thereafter with servers that were too sparsely populated to even attempt any RvR aside from the instanced BGs (forget what they actually called em) and those got old real fast. World pvp is almost always more exciting, especially when it has a good reward system like war had.
Maybe i'll go drop 5 bucks on Aion when i preorder my CO and give it a try in beta (unless i can get in without) and see which one i like better myself. Biggest problem i have in mmos lately is finding a guild. I've never done well with random pug type guilds, and i end up getting behind on stuff because i solo too long while trying to meet people and find a decent bunch i get along with, and as of right now, none of my RL friends or friends from wow (most of which are RL also) are planning to play either Aion or CO.
Edit : Vyeth, blizzard doesnt really need to do anything to keep people playing, they still have well over 10 million subs. It's the mmo for dummies solution. Dont get me wrong i enjoyed it for a long time, i just finally got sick of class imbalance and mostly boredom. Nothing wrong with people still playing it, it boils down to what you want to spend your time doing. I want something new. Superhero game seems like a good idea. Though i was REALLY looking forward to Jumpgate Evolution, supposedly coming out sept 1st as well, but they havent entered beta yet so that isnt happening =P
For community reasons CO seems the stronger of the two as dispite it being sharded into channels it is still one sever, if you have seen EVE dispite it having smaller numbers then most server based MMOs it still feels very large and active, finidng a guild in CO wont be a problem and even if the game does drop in numbers server mergers and empitness wont be an issue - also iirc players can scale down (or up i forget) to match their friends so you can still play no matter where you are.
Both are looking strong titles (which is very promising for the industry) but for ease of community I beleave CO would be the better option
Bring on the WARRRRGGHH!
Just to clarify something people are bringing up about cash shop + sub. First - they said cash shop items would almost entirely be cosmetic and anything that was stat based or development would also be available in game, so who cares. If people want to spend money on their barbie doll pixels, let em feed the fuel. Long as it doesnt give them faster flight, levelling xp etc like the crap that separates the people who pay and dont in typical free to play games.
and secondly someone said the following "So I pay 50$ to help pay the cost for development. I pay 15$ a month for servers and customer support. 50$ for expansion content. The usually MT are for account changes, character transfer, and renaming. This usually takes extra support so they charge them for it."
What you dont understand (clearly) is that when you buy a retail copy of a game, for lets say 50 bucks, the company sees only a portion of that, most of that goes to the retailer. The amount that the retailer paid the game company doesnt actually go to the game company, or developer, in this case Cryptic - it goes to the publisher, Atari. The subscriptions are what go directly to the developer. Not always the case, but typically that's the model for publiser/developer relationships when it comes to cost/profit from mmos.
Edit : Yeah Kremlik, it's called Sidekicking. You can tone yourself down to a groupmate's level, or bring them up to yours. There's an article (or maybe was a video) about it linked here someplace. IF it's not here it's definitely on the CO forums.
I'm still trying to figure out how the OP could even compare the two games. There's no real comparison here. One's fantasy and the other's present-to-near future superhero. Comparing the gameplay of the two, Champions is far superior. Graphics are two different styles so you can't really compare. Both look amazing at max settings...
Do some research. Stop comparing games that are not comparable.
Super-hero customization PvE game being compared to Winged human faction PvP game?
Not really what I had in mind in the terms of an MMO brawl out. The two games are different in so many ways. Sure, they have customization, but do they really need to be decided on? I have played both betas and I know for a fact, they are barely comparable. Personally, each tailor to their own player base very damn well. I will be playing both for sure. Guess the OP won't be, taking into consideration the absolutely "non-biased" review he gave of the two games
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*sarcastic snare at OP*
Currently playing: Star Wars: The Old Republic, World of Warcraft, Dota 2, League of Legends
Waiting on: Blade & Soul, Guild Wars 2, Tera, Kingdoms of Amular, Firefall
I really enjoyed CoH as it is the MMO that pulled me back into MMOs when I was bored of the current ones out there. I had a really good time but got bored when there was nothing to do once you were max level. When I heard of Champions I was hoping it would be like CoH 2 since it was being made by Cryptic but at this point after being in beta for a few months I don't think I'll be buying it. I prefer the CoH combat to the CO combat by a long shot. I finally get to take a look at Aion this weekend so I'll see how it is finally. I'm just tired of playing WoW but was bored during my month break of it because there wasn't anything out there to hold my interest.
I mean, they are recylcing more content for 3.2.2 ugh