Originally posted by MMO_Doubter Originally posted by Ozmodan I have seen 19 jillion questions on Aion character creation so I think asking another one is beyond ridiculous We still have not found anyone with the guts to ask about their past problems with bots. Another question session with zero difficult questions. Heaven forbid you have to ask a question that makes the inviewee think.
Most likely, those sort of questions were banned prior to the 'interview'. Commericial game sites aren't about journalism, they are about advertising. It's too bad that the sites don't realize how much the companies need the advertising, and start digging deeper.
Electronic gaming is huge business now. No reason there shouldn't be people asking tough questions. In my opinion there are some very good questions, forcing the PR guy to spin and lie. (sandbox, exodus etc). Botting just wasn´t big of a problem in the beta, it seems.
To the guy that said ganking only occured at lvl 30 in beta, because there was nothing else to do: do you think, it will drastically change, when those who were 30 are lvl 50, and those who were 20 are lvl 40 then? On a server maybe 1000 Elyos vs 600 Asmos? Then the 3rd PvE faction will balance it? Hope there is a good AI then. Not just 2-3 tanks pull the mobs together and then full AoE damage...
The game is polished, this interview had very boring and annoying questions. To the individual who said the game wasnt polished because of no swimming, I find your post amusing. The entire game world fails being polished all because the devs chose to use water instead of walls as barriers? The trolls are in full swing arent they? as far as ganking at 30 in the game, it has already been posted. But just to touch on it, the cbt's are limited and only cap at 30, ofcourse people are going to get very bored and gank lower levels. Now alot of you are stating the same issue will occure later, however at that point the higher level players have alot of stuff to do, like capture keeps/artifcats/instances not to mention defend against enemy factions and the Balur. If you think that ganking at 30 is going to be simmilar to end game then I have to disagree.
For the last months ive heard the word Pollished all the time. BUT just one question , why do i imidently drown and sink like a stone when i go in the water ? That is to me one of the basic things you have fix, and its not very pollished. Anyhows im going to enjoy the game , when it arrive in the mailbox. but i dont like the word Pollished , since it has sevral major bugs.
Umm where to start ...
First up this is one reason why i hate the word polish,if a game has nothing that really takes any effort to polish then it is nothing to brag about,hence why i laugh at WOW users using the Polish word.
Now saying that ,AION does enter flight witch is not your norm,but the ability to allow players to move in air is nothing more than a zone property,it really is part of the game engine and takes no effort.
Now also on those same lines,water usually have zonal properties also,and AION does not use it,one simple example is using a GRAVITY effect/property,many game engines have it,some don't.I am not sure how good the AION engine is ,but i am sure it is not high tech,so who knows maybe they do not even have water zone properties.I have never seen a working door in any ASIAN games,so maybe movers or anything along that effect are not present in these game engines either,same thing in WOW a very ancient game engine.Now again along these lines,even older game engines can be coded to bring in new properties,but who knows how bad theyu botched up the coding,maybe it would take them too much work.
Now if Aion DOES have wate zonal properties,it would basically be the LAZY/cheap approach as to why they have not added anything into them like a gravity effect,lighting effects,fog effects,only NCSOFT knows,and judging by the over all quality of the game,i qwould say they were a litle lack on their efforts.
Originally i thought Aion did not even have shadow effects ,so many areas in the game do not show any when they should,but i realize they do have it,it just works horribly or not at all in many cases.To give them some credit i did notice they used some nice RAY/lighting effects to imitate light rays shining down,so they did do some effort in some areas just not a complete game effort.
The more and more i have dwindled around Asian game engines,i have noticed more and more they all sort of look the exact same,i would not doubt there is 1 or 2 game engines they are all using.This would make sense since they all also use the exact same Game Guard,witch is 100% useless,well 99% useless.Player models always look the same,weapon models look the same,animations look the same, heck just about everything looks the same.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Ive noticed all game dev has some sort of saying to attract ppl.
Like Age of conan , always talked about there "Death animation " dont rember , and that there game is so uniq with there combat system, what is so emazing with the combat system i would like to subscribe for 4 years. and the Death animation is fun indeed , but only the first 1000 times. i meen they hype the game self so much , its not about getting ppl to buy they game , its about doing a game that apeals for a long time so that i can play with my freinds and guild for sevral years.
I ofc understand that all the C.O what to earn money in a hard gaming industri, but they lure ppl with diffrent kind of tricks all the time. that doesnt is as they say.
Aion.
Look at the Intervies they give"Vidios" , i think the word "polised" comes sevral times.
And the girl ? dont rember her name , but , is she realy a staff member ? , i meen "get a girl that is good looking from the steet or use you sister " okey !?
Make her talk about the game , but dont look at the camera when you are speaking look at the red dot we have installed on the wall in front of you " use the word polised during action.
So i wanna buy the game becouse there is a pretty girl ?.
Huh huh *whisper* The game is polished*
Anyhows im going to enjoy the game very much , and i am waiting for it to dimp down in my mailbox.
But there is them self that are hyping it , not us
The game is polished, this interview had very boring and annoying questions. To the individual who said the game wasnt polished because of no swimming, I find your post amusing. The entire game world fails being polished all because the devs chose to use water instead of walls as barriers? The trolls are in full swing arent they? as far as ganking at 30 in the game, it has already been posted. But just to touch on it, the cbt's are limited and only cap at 30, ofcourse people are going to get very bored and gank lower levels. Now alot of you are stating the same issue will occure later, however at that point the higher level players have alot of stuff to do, like capture keeps/artifcats/instances not to mention defend against enemy factions and the Balur. If you think that ganking at 30 is going to be simmilar to end game then I have to disagree.
Sorry, but from my long experience, if ganking is possible, its going to continue through the rest of the game. Why? Simply because its possible. Gankers/griefers don't need any excuse or reason for their behavior. Some people get a perverse pleasure out of ruining other peoples enjoyment of a game. Anyway, thanks for the heads up. I'd heard rumors that Aion allowed(encourages) ganking at the later levels. Now I'll not bother with it. Its too bad, as it looks like a good game, other wise. But I've had MORE than my fill of gankfest games.
Sounds like they know what they are doing plus I love the idea of being able to pvp or pve, and even do both at the same time when I choose to.
No thats a miss conception...
You have no choice you get to go to PVP areas no matter what.
And if you play any games with such areas...you know full well it matters not if you want to engage others or not...they will hunt you down and attack you over and over and over.(as many are pointing out the entire ganking thing..yep thats typical in games with zones like these)
The article was ok....but the truth is...i kind of forsee a mass exodus........
The entire limited flight (word of advice dont jump around too much you can actualy kill your self jumping even if its off a table or down some stairs...gliding is ok but thats on a timer..takes a bit to recharge too) and other wierd things like spirits you summon unable to fly and are weak (before anyone responds...if you fly spirits tend to rry to get to you..including running away)...and the weird random factor on many skills(you are stealthed from 1 to 60 seconds, you sneak attack for an additional1 to 512 damage, your run speed increases by 1% to 200%) and the root you to the ground while you use a skill or spell and it can be spoiled by an attack thing(damage over time effects literally are bad on players...NPCs seam to ignore it)....
These factors remind me of why people leave so many games....Its funny these where things they had in two of their other games that didnt do so well either....Auto Assault and Tabula Rasa...
I hope they actualy fix this stuff...
Rumor has it they wont be using the 1.5 version for the open beta either...i have a feeling its not that great..or else they would be testing it.
Sounds like they know what they are doing plus I love the idea of being able to pvp or pve, and even do both at the same time when I choose to.
No thats a miss conception...
You have no choice you get to go to PVP areas no matter what.
No, zathos is correct.
You have area's like THeombolis (sp) which are Pve only!... then there is the abyss which is pretty much pvp all the time, you can try to pve in there but it wont be long before you will be pvping.
Then there is eltnen, which is a huge PvE / PvP area, you can keep quiet and do pve or you can look for the rifts were the pvp is.
We also have 1.5 coming which puts in a lot more content pve wise, and more pve instances.
So yes, you can pure pve. But the pve is just like any other mmo.. Aions brilliance is with the pvp, even the shy player that scoff's at pvp will find pvping fun and exciting, even at low levels.
Sounds like they know what they are doing plus I love the idea of being able to pvp or pve, and even do both at the same time when I choose to.
No thats a miss conception...
You have no choice you get to go to PVP areas no matter what.
No, zathos is correct.
You have area's like THeombolis (sp) which are Pve only!... then there is the abyss which is pretty much pvp all the time, you can try to pve in there but it wont be long before you will be pvping.
Then there is eltnen, which is a huge PvE / PvP area, you can keep quiet and do pve or you can look for the rifts were the pvp is.
We also have 1.5 coming which puts in a lot more content pve wise, and more pve instances.
So yes, you can pure pve. But the pve is just like any other mmo.. Aions brilliance is with the pvp, even the shy player that scoff's at pvp will find pvping fun and exciting, even at low levels.
That doesn't square with what I've heard of the later levels in Aion. That being that one pretty much has little choice but to PvP. I'm not shy, nor inexperienced. I'm simply sick and tired of MMO ganking. If I want PvP I'll go play UT3 or Quake4. Games that have been designed from the ground up for balanced PvP. PvP tends to be the lazy approach to these games. In so far as the players them selves provide much of the content and interaction. This bait and switch routine is insulting to the western players, who have no interest in ganking or being ganked. Its not a promising introduction to a new game.
Nice anwer there. Ive noticed all game dev has some sort of saying to attract ppl. Like Age of conan , always talked about there "Death animation " dont rember , and that there game is so uniq with there combat system, what is so emazing with the combat system i would like to subscribe for 4 years. and the Death animation is fun indeed , but only the first 1000 times. i meen they hype the game self so much , its not about getting ppl to buy they game , its about doing a game that apeals for a long time so that i can play with my freinds and guild for sevral years.
I ofc understand that all the C.O what to earn money in a hard gaming industri, but they lure ppl with diffrent kind of tricks all the time. that doesnt is as they say. Aion. Look at the Intervies they give"Vidios" , i think the word "polised" comes sevral times. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MyiwRy40YA That meens they have been told to say "pollished" And the girl ? dont rember her name , but , is she realy a staff member ? , i meen "get a girl that is good looking from the steet or use you sister " okey !? Make her talk about the game , but dont look at the camera when you are speaking look at the red dot we have installed on the wall in front of you " use the word polised during action. So i wanna buy the game becouse there is a pretty girl ?. Huh huh *whisper* The game is polished* Anyhows im going to enjoy the game very much , and i am waiting for it to dimp down in my mailbox. But there is them self that are hyping it , not us
The girl in the video is the sameone that gave this interveiw Lani " Liv " Blazier. I think she's very nice looking. To each his own I guess.
CB6 has exposed the ugly side of AION. Asmodians on the Siel server were pinned down in their fort by Elyos for hours on Friday. I was ganked and killed by two Asmodians who ran away cursing at me. The level of gameplay was pretty close to as low as it can get. AION has such huge potential, but a lot of people will just walk away after experiences like tonight leaving just hard core pvper's around to play the game.
Ok so maybe I'm misreading this but your first complaint is "Asmodians on the Siel server were pinned down in their fort by Elyos for hours on Friday." So you're complaining that the Asmodians were being pwned in PvP for multiple hours straight... OK I can see how that would be irritating for someone on the asmodian side...
But, your next sentence says" I was ganked and killed by two Asmodians who ran away cursing at me. " So... now you're saying that you are Elyos and you're upset that 2 asmodians ganked ya...
1. If you are Elyos why are you complaining about your faction doing well in PvP?
2. Isnt running up and killing members of the enemy faction the point in PvP?
3. Obviously that upperhand the Elyos had for multiple hours was later balanced out if the Asmodians were able to fight back and get some kills of their own...
So I see nothing to be discouraged about. I'm seeing that there is finally a game where PvPers can actually go out and PvP in a balanced system where the only upperhand you can have is numbers and skill.
Sure if there are more Elyos logged in than Asmodians the Elyos will have an advantage... but that goes both ways.
Also, never complain about getting ganked when you're knowingly in a PvP hotzone. That's like becoming a boxer and complaining when your opponent jabs you.
CB6 has exposed the ugly side of AION. Asmodians on the Siel server were pinned down in their fort by Elyos for hours on Friday. I was ganked and killed by two Asmodians who ran away cursing at me. The level of gameplay was pretty close to as low as it can get. AION has such huge potential, but a lot of people will just walk away after experiences like tonight leaving just hard core pvper's around to play the game.
Ok so maybe I'm misreading this but your first complaint is "Asmodians on the Siel server were pinned down in their fort by Elyos for hours on Friday." So you're complaining that the Asmodians were being pwned in PvP for multiple hours straight... OK I can see how that would be irritating for someone on the asmodian side...
But, your next sentence says" I was ganked and killed by two Asmodians who ran away cursing at me. " So... now you're saying that you are Elyos and you're upset that 2 asmodians ganked ya...
1. If you are Elyos why are you complaining about your faction doing well in PvP?
2. Isnt running up and killing members of the enemy faction the point in PvP?
3. Obviously that upperhand the Elyos had for multiple hours was later balanced out if the Asmodians were able to fight back and get some kills of their own...
So I see nothing to be discouraged about. I'm seeing that there is finally a game where PvPers can actually go out and PvP in a balanced system where the only upperhand you can have is numbers and skill.
Sure if there are more Elyos logged in than Asmodians the Elyos will have an advantage... but that goes both ways.
Also, never complain about getting ganked when you're knowingly in a PvP hotzone. That's like becoming a boxer and complaining when your opponent jabs you.
Maybe this is just my opinion... I dunno.
"balanced system??" <boggle> You've not tried playing melee very much, have you? But I must admit it is MUCH more of a gankers game, than I've seen for awhile. I have no idea how NCsoft expects it to be much more than a niche game in the west.
CB6 has exposed the ugly side of AION. Asmodians on the Siel server were pinned down in their fort by Elyos for hours on Friday. I was ganked and killed by two Asmodians who ran away cursing at me. The level of gameplay was pretty close to as low as it can get. AION has such huge potential, but a lot of people will just walk away after experiences like tonight leaving just hard core pvper's around to play the game.
Ok so maybe I'm misreading this but your first complaint is "Asmodians on the Siel server were pinned down in their fort by Elyos for hours on Friday." So you're complaining that the Asmodians were being pwned in PvP for multiple hours straight... OK I can see how that would be irritating for someone on the asmodian side...
But, your next sentence says" I was ganked and killed by two Asmodians who ran away cursing at me. " So... now you're saying that you are Elyos and you're upset that 2 asmodians ganked ya...
1. If you are Elyos why are you complaining about your faction doing well in PvP?
2. Isnt running up and killing members of the enemy faction the point in PvP?
3. Obviously that upperhand the Elyos had for multiple hours was later balanced out if the Asmodians were able to fight back and get some kills of their own...
So I see nothing to be discouraged about. I'm seeing that there is finally a game where PvPers can actually go out and PvP in a balanced system where the only upperhand you can have is numbers and skill.
Sure if there are more Elyos logged in than Asmodians the Elyos will have an advantage... but that goes both ways.
Also, never complain about getting ganked when you're knowingly in a PvP hotzone. That's like becoming a boxer and complaining when your opponent jabs you.
Maybe this is just my opinion... I dunno.
"balanced system??" <boggle> You've not tried playing melee very much, have you? But I must admit it is MUCH more of a gankers game, than I've seen for awhile. I have no idea how NCsoft expects it to be much more than a niche game in the west.
I always play Melee actually. Usually Assassins and sometimes fighters... I don't see what that has to do with anything though. The effectiveness of a class is solely dependent of the person playing. For instance, I suck at ranged/magic attacking. But give me a sword or dagger and I'll destroy.
PvP is about figuring out your class/character. What they can/can't do how to utilize specific skillchains and attacks against specific adversaries.
From what I've heard/seen in gameplay demos and vids Aion has no "virtual steroids" or item mall advantages. Every player levels and acquires skills/gear in the same manner. So yes, it looks to me like the PvP is balanced because everyone has the same equal opportunities to craft, level, and practice/learn skills as their enemy counterparts and opposing classes.
Perhaps some people have just gotten used to item mall advantages or need to choose a new class/job
Sounds like they know what they are doing plus I love the idea of being able to pvp or pve, and even do both at the same time when I choose to.
No thats a miss conception...
You have no choice you get to go to PVP areas no matter what.
No, zathos is correct.
You have area's like THeombolis (sp) which are Pve only!... then there is the abyss which is pretty much pvp all the time, you can try to pve in there but it wont be long before you will be pvping.
Then there is eltnen, which is a huge PvE / PvP area, you can keep quiet and do pve or you can look for the rifts were the pvp is.
We also have 1.5 coming which puts in a lot more content pve wise, and more pve instances.
So yes, you can pure pve. But the pve is just like any other mmo.. Aions brilliance is with the pvp, even the shy player that scoff's at pvp will find pvping fun and exciting, even at low levels.
That doesn't square with what I've heard of the later levels in Aion. That being that one pretty much has little choice but to PvP. I'm not shy, nor inexperienced. I'm simply sick and tired of MMO ganking. If I want PvP I'll go play UT3 or Quake4. Games that have been designed from the ground up for balanced PvP. PvP tends to be the lazy approach to these games. In so far as the players them selves provide much of the content and interaction. This bait and switch routine is insulting to the western players, who have no interest in ganking or being ganked. Its not a promising introduction to a new game.
I have to disagree with you Wraith.... While the later levels of Aion may be more geared toward PvP and a little less toward PvE that doesnt mean that the later level PvE will be lacking by any means. Also you have to consider later patches and updates that will probably allow for more PvE content.
And in all honesty what is the point in end-game PvE other than farming/crafting sweet gear for PvP. Once you hit max level you can't go up anymore and all you have left is PvP and that's with ANY mmo. So if you aren't a fan of end-game PvP then don't level up to end-game status or find a new genre.
"This bait and switch routine is insulting to the western players, who have no interest in ganking or being ganked."
Maybe it's insulting to you, But I'm a US gamer and I personally LOVE gankage. It allows you to have the same "inyour face" PvP experience as if you were playing UT3 or GoW or CoD or whatever but within a diff genre and style. Yes, I love the run and gun andblasting people to bits with grenade launchers and bio-cannons. But I also enjoy hacking someone limbs off with my blade. The "gankage" in your face PvPvE system of Aion allows you to enjoy the Fantasy style culture and graphics without sacrificing the fast-paced fighting/PvP that us FPS gamers know and love.
I think some of us are just letting personal interests effect our judgement of Aion's unique gameplay.
I think that Aion won't be a game for Everyone but that it will be a game for gamers with a more open-mind and creative style about them. (personal opinion) I don't see this being a game for casual "come and go" players. But in that sense will enhance the atmosphere and overall enjoyability of the game for the more experienced gamers looking for hardcore PvP and stimulating PvE all in one package. (again, Personal opinion)
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Most likely, those sort of questions were banned prior to the 'interview'. Commericial game sites aren't about journalism, they are about advertising. It's too bad that the sites don't realize how much the companies need the advertising, and start digging deeper.
Electronic gaming is huge business now. No reason there shouldn't be people asking tough questions.
In my opinion there are some very good questions, forcing the PR guy to spin and lie.
(sandbox, exodus etc). Botting just wasn´t big of a problem in the beta, it seems.
To the guy that said ganking only occured at lvl 30 in beta, because there was nothing else to do: do you think, it will drastically change, when those who were 30 are lvl 50, and those who were 20 are lvl 40 then? On a server maybe 1000 Elyos vs 600 Asmos?
Then the 3rd PvE faction will balance it? Hope there is a good AI then. Not just 2-3 tanks pull the mobs together and then full AoE damage...
The game is polished, this interview had very boring and annoying questions. To the individual who said the game wasnt polished because of no swimming, I find your post amusing. The entire game world fails being polished all because the devs chose to use water instead of walls as barriers? The trolls are in full swing arent they? as far as ganking at 30 in the game, it has already been posted. But just to touch on it, the cbt's are limited and only cap at 30, ofcourse people are going to get very bored and gank lower levels. Now alot of you are stating the same issue will occure later, however at that point the higher level players have alot of stuff to do, like capture keeps/artifcats/instances not to mention defend against enemy factions and the Balur. If you think that ganking at 30 is going to be simmilar to end game then I have to disagree.
Umm where to start ...
First up this is one reason why i hate the word polish,if a game has nothing that really takes any effort to polish then it is nothing to brag about,hence why i laugh at WOW users using the Polish word.
Now saying that ,AION does enter flight witch is not your norm,but the ability to allow players to move in air is nothing more than a zone property,it really is part of the game engine and takes no effort.
Now also on those same lines,water usually have zonal properties also,and AION does not use it,one simple example is using a GRAVITY effect/property,many game engines have it,some don't.I am not sure how good the AION engine is ,but i am sure it is not high tech,so who knows maybe they do not even have water zone properties.I have never seen a working door in any ASIAN games,so maybe movers or anything along that effect are not present in these game engines either,same thing in WOW a very ancient game engine.Now again along these lines,even older game engines can be coded to bring in new properties,but who knows how bad theyu botched up the coding,maybe it would take them too much work.
Now if Aion DOES have wate zonal properties,it would basically be the LAZY/cheap approach as to why they have not added anything into them like a gravity effect,lighting effects,fog effects,only NCSOFT knows,and judging by the over all quality of the game,i qwould say they were a litle lack on their efforts.
Originally i thought Aion did not even have shadow effects ,so many areas in the game do not show any when they should,but i realize they do have it,it just works horribly or not at all in many cases.To give them some credit i did notice they used some nice RAY/lighting effects to imitate light rays shining down,so they did do some effort in some areas just not a complete game effort.
The more and more i have dwindled around Asian game engines,i have noticed more and more they all sort of look the exact same,i would not doubt there is 1 or 2 game engines they are all using.This would make sense since they all also use the exact same Game Guard,witch is 100% useless,well 99% useless.Player models always look the same,weapon models look the same,animations look the same, heck just about everything looks the same.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Nice anwer there.
Ive noticed all game dev has some sort of saying to attract ppl.
Like Age of conan , always talked about there "Death animation " dont rember , and that there game is so uniq with there combat system, what is so emazing with the combat system i would like to subscribe for 4 years. and the Death animation is fun indeed , but only the first 1000 times. i meen they hype the game self so much , its not about getting ppl to buy they game , its about doing a game that apeals for a long time so that i can play with my freinds and guild for sevral years.
I ofc understand that all the C.O what to earn money in a hard gaming industri, but they lure ppl with diffrent kind of tricks all the time. that doesnt is as they say.
Aion.
Look at the Intervies they give"Vidios" , i think the word "polised" comes sevral times.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MyiwRy40YA
That meens they have been told to say "pollished"
And the girl ? dont rember her name , but , is she realy a staff member ? , i meen "get a girl that is good looking from the steet or use you sister " okey !?
Make her talk about the game , but dont look at the camera when you are speaking look at the red dot we have installed on the wall in front of you " use the word polised during action.
So i wanna buy the game becouse there is a pretty girl ?.
Huh huh *whisper* The game is polished*
Anyhows im going to enjoy the game very much , and i am waiting for it to dimp down in my mailbox.
But there is them self that are hyping it , not us
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Sorry, but from my long experience, if ganking is possible, its going to continue through the rest of the game. Why? Simply because its possible. Gankers/griefers don't need any excuse or reason for their behavior. Some people get a perverse pleasure out of ruining other peoples enjoyment of a game. Anyway, thanks for the heads up. I'd heard rumors that Aion allowed(encourages) ganking at the later levels. Now I'll not bother with it. Its too bad, as it looks like a good game, other wise. But I've had MORE than my fill of gankfest games.
No thats a miss conception...
You have no choice you get to go to PVP areas no matter what.
And if you play any games with such areas...you know full well it matters not if you want to engage others or not...they will hunt you down and attack you over and over and over.(as many are pointing out the entire ganking thing..yep thats typical in games with zones like these)
The article was ok....but the truth is...i kind of forsee a mass exodus........
The entire limited flight (word of advice dont jump around too much you can actualy kill your self jumping even if its off a table or down some stairs...gliding is ok but thats on a timer..takes a bit to recharge too) and other wierd things like spirits you summon unable to fly and are weak (before anyone responds...if you fly spirits tend to rry to get to you..including running away)...and the weird random factor on many skills(you are stealthed from 1 to 60 seconds, you sneak attack for an additional1 to 512 damage, your run speed increases by 1% to 200%) and the root you to the ground while you use a skill or spell and it can be spoiled by an attack thing(damage over time effects literally are bad on players...NPCs seam to ignore it)....
These factors remind me of why people leave so many games....Its funny these where things they had in two of their other games that didnt do so well either....Auto Assault and Tabula Rasa...
I hope they actualy fix this stuff...
Rumor has it they wont be using the 1.5 version for the open beta either...i have a feeling its not that great..or else they would be testing it.
No thats a miss conception...
You have no choice you get to go to PVP areas no matter what.
No, zathos is correct.
You have area's like THeombolis (sp) which are Pve only!... then there is the abyss which is pretty much pvp all the time, you can try to pve in there but it wont be long before you will be pvping.
Then there is eltnen, which is a huge PvE / PvP area, you can keep quiet and do pve or you can look for the rifts were the pvp is.
We also have 1.5 coming which puts in a lot more content pve wise, and more pve instances.
So yes, you can pure pve. But the pve is just like any other mmo.. Aions brilliance is with the pvp, even the shy player that scoff's at pvp will find pvping fun and exciting, even at low levels.
No thats a miss conception...
You have no choice you get to go to PVP areas no matter what.
No, zathos is correct.
You have area's like THeombolis (sp) which are Pve only!... then there is the abyss which is pretty much pvp all the time, you can try to pve in there but it wont be long before you will be pvping.
Then there is eltnen, which is a huge PvE / PvP area, you can keep quiet and do pve or you can look for the rifts were the pvp is.
We also have 1.5 coming which puts in a lot more content pve wise, and more pve instances.
So yes, you can pure pve. But the pve is just like any other mmo.. Aions brilliance is with the pvp, even the shy player that scoff's at pvp will find pvping fun and exciting, even at low levels.
That doesn't square with what I've heard of the later levels in Aion. That being that one pretty much has little choice but to PvP. I'm not shy, nor inexperienced. I'm simply sick and tired of MMO ganking. If I want PvP I'll go play UT3 or Quake4. Games that have been designed from the ground up for balanced PvP. PvP tends to be the lazy approach to these games. In so far as the players them selves provide much of the content and interaction. This bait and switch routine is insulting to the western players, who have no interest in ganking or being ganked. Its not a promising introduction to a new game.
The girl in the video is the sameone that gave this interveiw Lani " Liv " Blazier. I think she's very nice looking. To each his own I guess.
Ok so maybe I'm misreading this but your first complaint is "Asmodians on the Siel server were pinned down in their fort by Elyos for hours on Friday." So you're complaining that the Asmodians were being pwned in PvP for multiple hours straight... OK I can see how that would be irritating for someone on the asmodian side...
But, your next sentence says" I was ganked and killed by two Asmodians who ran away cursing at me. " So... now you're saying that you are Elyos and you're upset that 2 asmodians ganked ya...
1. If you are Elyos why are you complaining about your faction doing well in PvP?
2. Isnt running up and killing members of the enemy faction the point in PvP?
3. Obviously that upperhand the Elyos had for multiple hours was later balanced out if the Asmodians were able to fight back and get some kills of their own...
So I see nothing to be discouraged about. I'm seeing that there is finally a game where PvPers can actually go out and PvP in a balanced system where the only upperhand you can have is numbers and skill.
Sure if there are more Elyos logged in than Asmodians the Elyos will have an advantage... but that goes both ways.
Also, never complain about getting ganked when you're knowingly in a PvP hotzone. That's like becoming a boxer and complaining when your opponent jabs you.
Maybe this is just my opinion... I dunno.
Ok so maybe I'm misreading this but your first complaint is "Asmodians on the Siel server were pinned down in their fort by Elyos for hours on Friday." So you're complaining that the Asmodians were being pwned in PvP for multiple hours straight... OK I can see how that would be irritating for someone on the asmodian side...
But, your next sentence says" I was ganked and killed by two Asmodians who ran away cursing at me. " So... now you're saying that you are Elyos and you're upset that 2 asmodians ganked ya...
1. If you are Elyos why are you complaining about your faction doing well in PvP?
2. Isnt running up and killing members of the enemy faction the point in PvP?
3. Obviously that upperhand the Elyos had for multiple hours was later balanced out if the Asmodians were able to fight back and get some kills of their own...
So I see nothing to be discouraged about. I'm seeing that there is finally a game where PvPers can actually go out and PvP in a balanced system where the only upperhand you can have is numbers and skill.
Sure if there are more Elyos logged in than Asmodians the Elyos will have an advantage... but that goes both ways.
Also, never complain about getting ganked when you're knowingly in a PvP hotzone. That's like becoming a boxer and complaining when your opponent jabs you.
Maybe this is just my opinion... I dunno.
"balanced system??" <boggle> You've not tried playing melee very much, have you?
But I must admit it is MUCH more of a gankers game, than I've seen for awhile. I have no idea how NCsoft expects it to be much more than a niche game in the west.
Ok so maybe I'm misreading this but your first complaint is "Asmodians on the Siel server were pinned down in their fort by Elyos for hours on Friday." So you're complaining that the Asmodians were being pwned in PvP for multiple hours straight... OK I can see how that would be irritating for someone on the asmodian side...
But, your next sentence says" I was ganked and killed by two Asmodians who ran away cursing at me. " So... now you're saying that you are Elyos and you're upset that 2 asmodians ganked ya...
1. If you are Elyos why are you complaining about your faction doing well in PvP?
2. Isnt running up and killing members of the enemy faction the point in PvP?
3. Obviously that upperhand the Elyos had for multiple hours was later balanced out if the Asmodians were able to fight back and get some kills of their own...
So I see nothing to be discouraged about. I'm seeing that there is finally a game where PvPers can actually go out and PvP in a balanced system where the only upperhand you can have is numbers and skill.
Sure if there are more Elyos logged in than Asmodians the Elyos will have an advantage... but that goes both ways.
Also, never complain about getting ganked when you're knowingly in a PvP hotzone. That's like becoming a boxer and complaining when your opponent jabs you.
Maybe this is just my opinion... I dunno.
"balanced system??" <boggle> You've not tried playing melee very much, have you?
But I must admit it is MUCH more of a gankers game, than I've seen for awhile. I have no idea how NCsoft expects it to be much more than a niche game in the west.
I always play Melee actually. Usually Assassins and sometimes fighters... I don't see what that has to do with anything though. The effectiveness of a class is solely dependent of the person playing. For instance, I suck at ranged/magic attacking. But give me a sword or dagger and I'll destroy.
PvP is about figuring out your class/character. What they can/can't do how to utilize specific skillchains and attacks against specific adversaries.
From what I've heard/seen in gameplay demos and vids Aion has no "virtual steroids" or item mall advantages. Every player levels and acquires skills/gear in the same manner. So yes, it looks to me like the PvP is balanced because everyone has the same equal opportunities to craft, level, and practice/learn skills as their enemy counterparts and opposing classes.
Perhaps some people have just gotten used to item mall advantages or need to choose a new class/job
No thats a miss conception...
You have no choice you get to go to PVP areas no matter what.
No, zathos is correct.
You have area's like THeombolis (sp) which are Pve only!... then there is the abyss which is pretty much pvp all the time, you can try to pve in there but it wont be long before you will be pvping.
Then there is eltnen, which is a huge PvE / PvP area, you can keep quiet and do pve or you can look for the rifts were the pvp is.
We also have 1.5 coming which puts in a lot more content pve wise, and more pve instances.
So yes, you can pure pve. But the pve is just like any other mmo.. Aions brilliance is with the pvp, even the shy player that scoff's at pvp will find pvping fun and exciting, even at low levels.
That doesn't square with what I've heard of the later levels in Aion. That being that one pretty much has little choice but to PvP. I'm not shy, nor inexperienced. I'm simply sick and tired of MMO ganking. If I want PvP I'll go play UT3 or Quake4. Games that have been designed from the ground up for balanced PvP. PvP tends to be the lazy approach to these games. In so far as the players them selves provide much of the content and interaction. This bait and switch routine is insulting to the western players, who have no interest in ganking or being ganked. Its not a promising introduction to a new game.
I have to disagree with you Wraith.... While the later levels of Aion may be more geared toward PvP and a little less toward PvE that doesnt mean that the later level PvE will be lacking by any means. Also you have to consider later patches and updates that will probably allow for more PvE content.
And in all honesty what is the point in end-game PvE other than farming/crafting sweet gear for PvP. Once you hit max level you can't go up anymore and all you have left is PvP and that's with ANY mmo. So if you aren't a fan of end-game PvP then don't level up to end-game status or find a new genre.
"This bait and switch routine is insulting to the western players, who have no interest in ganking or being ganked."
Maybe it's insulting to you, But I'm a US gamer and I personally LOVE gankage. It allows you to have the same "inyour face" PvP experience as if you were playing UT3 or GoW or CoD or whatever but within a diff genre and style. Yes, I love the run and gun andblasting people to bits with grenade launchers and bio-cannons. But I also enjoy hacking someone limbs off with my blade. The "gankage" in your face PvPvE system of Aion allows you to enjoy the Fantasy style culture and graphics without sacrificing the fast-paced fighting/PvP that us FPS gamers know and love.
I think some of us are just letting personal interests effect our judgement of Aion's unique gameplay.
I think that Aion won't be a game for Everyone but that it will be a game for gamers with a more open-mind and creative style about them. (personal opinion) I don't see this being a game for casual "come and go" players. But in that sense will enhance the atmosphere and overall enjoyability of the game for the more experienced gamers looking for hardcore PvP and stimulating PvE all in one package. (again, Personal opinion)