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A beta review - pretty harsh

mutombo55mutombo55 Member Posts: 151



 

Some dudes review here: memetic-hazard.blogspot.com/2009_08_01_archive.html

Pretty harsh. I'll wait till the NDA lifts and some more beta p/reviews appear.

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  • Dark-AsylumDark-Asylum Member Posts: 300

     harsh i guess due to the fact that he REVIEWED a game still in beta

  • MacScarfeMacScarfe Member Posts: 100

    Wow what a bad review, seriously bad ..... if the reviewer had actually just written about the pros and cons of the game he would have done a lot better.

    However sadly the FAULTS with the game, and there are quite a few, get lost in a rant which can be summed up as "You didn't make a cookie cutter WoW killer, I HATE YOU!!!!!!!"

    The simple fact is ALOT of people are going to hate this game and the main reason for that will be this game isn't for them, no matter what they had hoped for or believed from the marketing.

    Whatever Cryptic set out to make i think they missed the mark, unless they wanted to make a Casual Friendly, niche market game. Will this game reach the 100k sub mark they hope for, YES, will it maintain 100k+ for a number of years that depends if they manage to understand they havn't built a general mmo but a cult classic and adapt their ad campaigns accordingly.

  • Spaceweed10Spaceweed10 Member Posts: 625
    Originally posted by Dark-Asylum


     harsh i guess due to the fact that he REVIEWED a game still in beta



     

    He's been testing the game snce Dec'08 - what credentials do 'you' bring to the table to refute what he says?

    Regardless of whether it is a beta review or not, this game is supposed to be releasing very soon, and by the sounds of it, it is rubbish.

    Arguing someone's opinion without providing rebuttle is lose.

  • LeetheLeethe Member UncommonPosts: 893

    That review made me laugh. despite all he says, I think the game is awesome and after playing a few months, I am looking forward to more. All I can say is let the QQing begin. Play if you can and see for yourselves but if I know this website...this will be an interesting week.

    There is NO miracle patch.

    95% of what you see in beta won't change by launch.

    Hope is not a stategy.
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  • MMO_DoubterMMO_Doubter Member Posts: 5,056
    Originally posted by Dark-Asylum


     harsh i guess due to the fact that he REVIEWED a game still in beta

     

    Hence the title of the thread.

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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,197

     Actually sad to say, he has some points here and there. Overall it didn't seem like a review so much.. I mean, thats obviously what it was, but it tells you little about the game and seems more into making an overall analogy to each piece of the gameplay.

     

    I have a review myself I'd like to write, but I don't want to jump the gun.  The playtest last friday had some major issues, and they've had 2 patches since friday, before I start to comment on some of the issues I will wait until I start OB.

     

    Overall though, I've tried every powerset and went all the way through to end level content. which many of the players in OB probably will never see.  

     

    So all in all I'll get a review out there ASAP,  



  • MMO_DoubterMMO_Doubter Member Posts: 5,056
    Originally posted by maskedweasel



    Overall though, I've tried every powerset and went all the way through to end level content. which many of the players in OB probably will never see.  
     
    So all in all I'll get a review out there ASAP,  

    Before release or after?

     

    There are people deciding whether to go for that lifetime sub or not.

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  • DavitDavit Member Posts: 53

    This guy's a rip off, we should wait for original Yahtzee to review this. Such a parody to him.

  • NovaKayneNovaKayne Member Posts: 743

    You will have trouble finding your friends!

     

    OK, what he described there to me sounds like a benefit and not a hinderence.  All of your friends do not have to find the server you are on.  They can create a hero and play it on the server you are already on, they just have to add you as a friend or join your supergroup to be able to find you? 

     

    WOW.  OK, I see that as if the population logged in at any given time is lower ( due to time of day or whatever ) that low population will not be spread across multi-ple servers.  You will be able to get a PUG much more easily when playing in off peak times.  During on-peak times he says you can find your friends by looking at the instances selection.

     

    The ONLY hindrance I can see here is how they handle heroes and names.  That could get a bit dicey of there are no new shards or whatever.  Do they not allow the same name hero in the same instance?

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  • MMO_DoubterMMO_Doubter Member Posts: 5,056
    Originally posted by NovaKayne


    You will have trouble finding your friends!
     
    OK, what he described there to me sounds like a benefit and not a hinderence.  All of your friends do not have to find the server you are on.  They can create a hero and play it on the server you are already on, they just have to add you as a friend or join your supergroup to be able to find you? 
     
    WOW.  OK, I see that as if the population logged in at any given time is lower ( due to time of day or whatever ) that low population will not be spread across multi-ple servers.  You will be able to get a PUG much more easily when playing in off peak times.  During on-peak times he says you can find your friends by looking at the instances selection.
     
    The ONLY hindrance I can see here is how they handle heroes and names.  That could get a bit dicey of there are no new shards or whatever.  Do they not allow the same name hero in the same instance?

    If your friends are in different 'zones' can they switch to your zone to group with you?

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  • LeetheLeethe Member UncommonPosts: 893


    Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

    Originally posted by NovaKayne

    You will have trouble finding your friends!
     
    OK, what he described there to me sounds like a benefit and not a hinderence.  All of your friends do not have to find the server you are on.  They can create a hero and play it on the server you are already on, they just have to add you as a friend or join your supergroup to be able to find you? 
     
    WOW.  OK, I see that as if the population logged in at any given time is lower ( due to time of day or whatever ) that low population will not be spread across multi-ple servers.  You will be able to get a PUG much more easily when playing in off peak times.  During on-peak times he says you can find your friends by looking at the instances selection.
     
    The ONLY hindrance I can see here is how they handle heroes and names.  That could get a bit dicey of there are no new shards or whatever.  Do they not allow the same name hero in the same instance?


    If your friends are in different 'zones' can they switch to your zone to group with you?

    Yes you can. The list of shards displays those with friends in them and you press a button to switch to that one.

    There is NO miracle patch.

    95% of what you see in beta won't change by launch.

    Hope is not a stategy.
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  • VyethVyeth Member UncommonPosts: 1,461

    Open beta starts today.. If you can get a key, try for yourselves..

  • gorillaz951gorillaz951 Member Posts: 160

    Pfft. His review is obviously biased. He was most likely a Hellgate fanboi that is still holding a grudge at Cryptic. Champions might have a few problems, but what MMO as of now does'nt?

    P.S. To Novakayne's question, Two players with the same name can be in the same instance. The "Superhero" name is just for decoration. It's the @<;login name here> that shows who you really are. Kind of like a backwards email adress IMO. And to the people that think it would be hard to type in "Superhero@yournamehere", Cryptic put in an autosearch feature in the chat window to easliy find users whom you have talked to.

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  • junzo316junzo316 Member UncommonPosts: 1,712

    I don't agree with a lot of what he says (its opinion and I have my own).  I like the story arcs, and find some laughter in a few of them.  I like the small instance lairs.  I don't think they were an "afterthought".  Some are well done.  He does make some valid points.  The shard thing is a bit dicey.  I would like to choose a particular shard and just stay on that shard during my playtime and have an option to move to another shard if I so choose. 

     

    The small bugs I have noticed have usually disappeared in the next play session, some haven't.  Some of the costume pieces have an error on them.  We'll see if that gets fixed for the OB.  I'm REALLY enjoying the gameplay.  I think it's refreshing.  It's fast paced, and the ability to block adds a nice dynamic. 

     

    I think its a bit unfair to do a review during beta, because things are constantly changing.  Observations, I think, are ok.  This really wasn't a review in my opinion.  It was a rant.

  • error_404error_404 Member UncommonPosts: 108
    Originally posted by NovaKayne


    The ONLY hindrance I can see here is how they handle heroes and names.  That could get a bit dicey of there are no new shards or whatever.  Do they not allow the same name hero in the same instance?

     

    Every name has your forum name attached to it, Superdude@name.  So there is a chance you could party with people with the same name as you.  Word of caution make sure your forum name is not the same as your account name, this has already proven to be a bit of an issue.  Every time you chat or emote, it's shown.

    Superdude@name dances. etc.

  • MMO_DoubterMMO_Doubter Member Posts: 5,056
    Originally posted by gorillaz951


    Pfft. His review is obviously biased. He was most likely a Hellgate fanboi that is still holding a grudge at Cryptic. Champions might have a few problems, but what MMO as of now does'nt?

     

    If he's a troll, then you're a shill. See how that works?

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  • MicleeMiclee Member Posts: 27

     My thoughts of the beta are the complete opposite of this review.

  • slim26slim26 Member UncommonPosts: 645

    Man I read every thing on that page including the review about Flo. I will see for my self about CO, that  is the type of review for a finish MMO... what the hell? He speaks about cryptic copying every thing from movies too games, even there own stuff from the Marvel MMO they put on hold. I don't think he know they have the rights to do so. I do not like this review, it is BS to me seriously!!

  • AganazerAganazer Member Posts: 1,319

    Its not a review, its a rant. I've been in the game since April and most of what he says is just plain wrong.

    "Everything you hated about Everquest is back again:"

    Spawn camping? Not that I have ever seen.

    Ninja mission spawns? Actually is shares credit for everyone who contributed.

    Besides, what the heck does that have to do with EQ? I quit that game because of forced grouping.

    "You will have trouble finding your friends:"

    You won't have trouble finding your friends because when you select a zone, it show exactly how many of your friends are in each instance of that zone. It also shows how many supergroup member, and team mates.

    "You can't Crowd Control your way to victory."

    That's a joke right? I don't think you can CC your way to victory in any game ever. CC is not damage.

     

    So much other BS. He assumes that they added Twitter support instead of fixing bugs. He has no clue about development and how it works. He accuses them of diverting resources away from CO to STO. Show me the proof. What a joke review.

  • gorillaz951gorillaz951 Member Posts: 160
    Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

    Originally posted by gorillaz951


    Pfft. His review is obviously biased. He was most likely a Hellgate fanboi that is still holding a grudge at Cryptic. Champions might have a few problems, but what MMO as of now does'nt?

     

    If he's a troll, then you're a shill. See how that works?

    Mirror Mirror on the wall, Who is the biggest flamer of them all?

     

    *points at MMO_Doubter*

    The name says it all!

    Seriously, Everyone else think's his review is whack. He did'nt list any positive details about the game, but just maximized the time it takes to complain about the bad.

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  • LeetheLeethe Member UncommonPosts: 893

    We just got 10 days of 24/7 test time to make friends and have fun. While I thought his 'review' was bollocks, who cares. It's fun. See you all in game tonight.

    There is NO miracle patch.

    95% of what you see in beta won't change by launch.

    Hope is not a stategy.
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  • MMO_DoubterMMO_Doubter Member Posts: 5,056
    Originally posted by gorillaz951


    Mirror Mirror on the wall, Who is the biggest flamer of them all?

     
    *points at MMO_Doubter*
    The name says it all!
    Seriously, Everyone else think's his review is whack. He did'nt list any positive details about the game, but just maximized the time it takes to complain about the bad.

    Doubt is a corner stone of wisdom.

    Why not tell us what you like about the game?

     

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  • SarykSaryk Member UncommonPosts: 476

    Beta starts today. We will have the whiners, fanboi’s, trolls, people than haven’t even played the game coming out of the wood work to post on this game.

    I say , get into beta, decide for yourself. If you don’t want to get into the game early, wait about 3 months or wait until the game starts the 14 day free trial.

     

  • DavitDavit Member Posts: 53


    Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

    Doubt is a corner stone of wisdom.
    Why not tell us what you like about the game?



    That it is just fun to play? Feels right? How about that instead of ever-going trial like discussions you people create all the time?

    We enjoy our games, without listening to endless rants it is actually possible. For some people here, there will never be games to play... get over it. This is life, nothing is flawless. Call me a fanboy.

    We fanboys were actually able to submit quite a lot of bugs, that got fixed, ideas that got implemented.... so no, we do not need Doomsayars to save us. You approach has actually quite the opposite effects, not improving that much as you think.

    For everyone, do not listen to people. There are ways how try the game, do it! Instead of listening to others. People have different tastes and what imposes to one, might not be attractive to others. Simply trying will answer all your questions.

  • MMO_DoubterMMO_Doubter Member Posts: 5,056
    Originally posted by Davit


    That it is just fun to play? Feels right? How about that instead of ever-going trial like discussions you people create all the time?
    We enjoy our games, without listening to endless rants it is actually possible. For some people here, there will never be games to play... get over it. This is life, nothing is flawless. Call me a fanboy.
    We fanboys were actually able to submit quite a lot of bugs, that got fixed, ideas that got implemented.... so no, we do not need Doomsayars to save us. You approach has actually quite the opposite effects, not improving that much as you think.
    For everyone, do not listen to people. There are ways how try the game, do it! Instead of listening to others. People have different tastes and what imposes to one, might not be attractive to others. Simply trying will answer all your questions.

    Apparently, simply trying won't answer any questions about the cash shop. What else about the game is hidden?

    If you don't like people ansking questions about the game, why are you here?

    "For everyone, do not listen to people." Does that include you?



     

     

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