I agree. I can understand first day of the open beta problems. I can understand a slow download.
What I'm having trouble stomaching is their crappy, crappy patcher.
A patcher should be the simplest of all steps. Run patcher, log in, wait. That's it. It should automatically take care of itself. If it loses connection, it should find it again. If it has to restart, it should do it by itself. If it has to move files, it should do it by itself. It should never freeze. It should never hang.
This is absolutely ridiculous. I've been babysitting this stupid thing for hours and I've still gotten nowhere.
I know they are calling this an 'open beta', but Cryptic is seriously mistaken if they think it isn't going to impact their sales when they can't even manage to patch the game properly. Nowadays, 'open beta' means 'preview' or 'first impression'.
You guys are all so dramatic. Open beta is two whole weeks, and some are acting as if it's the end of the world if they don't get their beta gameplay right now.
It's broken, it sucks, they're working on it. We know. It's not like this is the first time a patch or launch day has ever had problems. WoW still has them and they've been out for 5+ years.
Just take a breath, read a comic book, and give it a try later. Or tomorrow. It's not the end of the world.
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
yea, im stuck in a loop with the same files downloading. i dont even know what to do.
When you don't know what to do.. When it seems all hope is lost.. when all else has absolutely failed.. When you are at witts end.. and when the world has come crushing down on your shoulders.. There is only one thing that can unequivocally be done..
Do a little dance.. Make a little love.. Get down tonight..
yea, im stuck in a loop with the same files downloading. i dont even know what to do.
When you don't know what to do.. When it seems all hope is lost.. when all else has absolutely failed.. When you are at witts end.. and when the world has come crushing down on your shoulders.. There is only one thing that can unequivocally be done..
Do a little dance.. Make a little love.. Get down tonight..
You guys are all so dramatic. Open beta is two whole weeks, and some are acting as if it's the end of the world if they don't get their beta gameplay right now. It's broken, it sucks, they're working on it. We know. It's not like this is the first time a patch or launch day has ever had problems. WoW still has them and they've been out for 5+ years. Just take a breath, read a comic book, and give it a try later. Or tomorrow. It's not the end of the world.
It's that it did happen before in earlier mmos. I stated elsewhere that developers should be more experience then this. This patcher is horrible. WoW has 5million players and rarely has problem on patch days now. Also It released 5years ago when mmos were still new. Most mmos that were newer had launch day and stress day nailed down right. Cryptic develop an mmo before this. They shouldn't be allowed excuses. It feels under-budget and rushed.
-- "Any free people have the right to choose how it wants to be govern thats the essence of democracy. It's sad when America has chosen for the stability and consistency of a dictatorship and doing it democratically" -utnow
its kinda strange actually. Ive been closed beta testing this game for weeks now. We've downloaded patches that are 400 mb to gigabytes worth and the patcher has worked extremely fast up until today. Just this past weekend I downloaded a 400mb patch in maybe 3 minutes. Even the 3 gigabytes I downloaded when I first got into the beta took maybe 30 minutes.
but anyway its worked flawlessly and extremely fast, up until today (not sure what the guy above me is posting about. I dont recall any patcher issues during CBT). I guess dont use today as an example of the patchers performance because its been working without fault for a very long time. I guess they accomplished a goal by pegging their patch server and finding a bottleneck with a massive amount of users accessing it.
"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a robot foot stomping on a human face -- forever."
(not sure what the guy above me is posting about. I dont recall any patcher issues during CBT).
I didn't mean to suggest this problem happen before in champion online. It happen in other releases. I'll edit the post to clarify.
Edit: You are right that something happen with networking. It what stress test are for but It a patcher like other stated. I really hope the problem is caused by an outside source and not number of players.
-- "Any free people have the right to choose how it wants to be govern thats the essence of democracy. It's sad when America has chosen for the stability and consistency of a dictatorship and doing it democratically" -utnow
This is some seriously entertaining stuff. I expected problems on opening day. Just not a total and epic fail from cryptic. I was in the LOTRO beta. It never not worked. It was awesome from the start. From the earliest beta to today LOTRO has been an awesome game with virtually no bugs. But this, this is just inexcusable. I'm a programmer. For who ever was in charge of knowing how many beta keys were given out. YOUR FIRED! I would have fired me for the this epic failure of an opening day. There is no excuse for this lame set of excuses. I've read many posts from players (at least they have tried to play) and the devs and It's a sad sad day for this company.
When Cryptic announced that both CHO and STO would be not only micro-transaction based but you would also have to pay a subscription. I was done with them. Sure you can buy a $199 "Lifetime" membership to CHO, then keep paying and paying with micro-transactions for all of time. No Thanks. Not gonna fly. You either do free to play/micro-transaction or subscription. Not both. It's the "Worst of Both Worlds" imaginable.
Were looking at you BIOWARE! SWTOR here we come!
The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity. - Harlan Ellison
People freak out and act like this is a travesty and hasn't ever happened before. WoW STILL has problems on some patch days. I remember them putting out a patch that ended up erasing everyone's ingame mail for two weeks, like 6 months ago.
I also find it amusing the stance that people are taking. They want to play the game so badly, they're so angry that they can't have it right now, so they troll the forums and hate on the game and claim they'll never play it. If you'll never play it and hate the game, then why are you getting so upset over not get it right now?
Hold your breath till you pass out, stomp your feet, you're angry, we get it. The world's not gonna end, and plenty of people will be happily playing the game tomorrow.
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
I am going on 9.3% done and I have left this running all day long.. 9 hours and only 9% done.. it is pathetic patching system.
I have a 20Mbps cable connection through Mediacom and I have never had trouble downloading at high speeds. I am going at dial up speeds, actually worse then dialup with this patching system.
its kinda strange actually. Ive been closed beta testing this game for weeks now. We've downloaded patches that are 400 mb to gigabytes worth and the patcher has worked extremely fast up until today. Just this past weekend I downloaded a 400mb patch in maybe 3 minutes. Even the 3 gigabytes I downloaded when I first got into the beta took maybe 30 minutes. but anyway its worked flawlessly and extremely fast, up until today (not sure what the guy above me is posting about. I dont recall any patcher issues during CBT). I guess dont use today as an example of the patchers performance because its been working without fault for a very long time. I guess they accomplished a goal by pegging their patch server and finding a bottleneck with a massive amount of users accessing it.
Yes, the patcher had no problems during closed beta, ever. For some reason I think we should point our fingers towards FilePlanet, since they are the ones "hosting" this open beta and Cryptic failed when trusting they'd handle this. If I remember correct, they also hosted the Age of Conan's beta and that start wasn't smooth either...
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yea, im stuck in a loop with the same files downloading. i dont even know what to do.
I agree. I can understand first day of the open beta problems. I can understand a slow download.
What I'm having trouble stomaching is their crappy, crappy patcher.
A patcher should be the simplest of all steps. Run patcher, log in, wait. That's it. It should automatically take care of itself. If it loses connection, it should find it again. If it has to restart, it should do it by itself. If it has to move files, it should do it by itself. It should never freeze. It should never hang.
This is absolutely ridiculous. I've been babysitting this stupid thing for hours and I've still gotten nowhere.
I know they are calling this an 'open beta', but Cryptic is seriously mistaken if they think it isn't going to impact their sales when they can't even manage to patch the game properly. Nowadays, 'open beta' means 'preview' or 'first impression'.
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
You guys are all so dramatic. Open beta is two whole weeks, and some are acting as if it's the end of the world if they don't get their beta gameplay right now.
It's broken, it sucks, they're working on it. We know. It's not like this is the first time a patch or launch day has ever had problems. WoW still has them and they've been out for 5+ years.
Just take a breath, read a comic book, and give it a try later. Or tomorrow. It's not the end of the world.
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
When you don't know what to do.. When it seems all hope is lost.. when all else has absolutely failed.. When you are at witts end.. and when the world has come crushing down on your shoulders.. There is only one thing that can unequivocally be done..
Do a little dance.. Make a little love.. Get down tonight..
that's right,
Get down tonight..
When you don't know what to do.. When it seems all hope is lost.. when all else has absolutely failed.. When you are at witts end.. and when the world has come crushing down on your shoulders.. There is only one thing that can unequivocally be done..
Do a little dance.. Make a little love.. Get down tonight..
that's right,
Get down tonight..
captain morgan never treated me bad.
It's that it did happen before in earlier mmos. I stated elsewhere that developers should be more experience then this. This patcher is horrible. WoW has 5million players and rarely has problem on patch days now. Also It released 5years ago when mmos were still new. Most mmos that were newer had launch day and stress day nailed down right. Cryptic develop an mmo before this. They shouldn't be allowed excuses. It feels under-budget and rushed.
--
"Any free people have the right to choose how it wants to be govern thats the essence of democracy. It's sad when America has chosen for the stability and consistency of a dictatorship and doing it democratically" -utnow
its kinda strange actually. Ive been closed beta testing this game for weeks now. We've downloaded patches that are 400 mb to gigabytes worth and the patcher has worked extremely fast up until today. Just this past weekend I downloaded a 400mb patch in maybe 3 minutes. Even the 3 gigabytes I downloaded when I first got into the beta took maybe 30 minutes.
but anyway its worked flawlessly and extremely fast, up until today (not sure what the guy above me is posting about. I dont recall any patcher issues during CBT). I guess dont use today as an example of the patchers performance because its been working without fault for a very long time. I guess they accomplished a goal by pegging their patch server and finding a bottleneck with a massive amount of users accessing it.
"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a robot foot stomping on a human face -- forever."
I didn't mean to suggest this problem happen before in champion online. It happen in other releases. I'll edit the post to clarify.
Edit: You are right that something happen with networking. It what stress test are for but It a patcher like other stated. I really hope the problem is caused by an outside source and not number of players.
--
"Any free people have the right to choose how it wants to be govern thats the essence of democracy. It's sad when America has chosen for the stability and consistency of a dictatorship and doing it democratically" -utnow
This is some seriously entertaining stuff. I expected problems on opening day. Just not a total and epic fail from cryptic. I was in the LOTRO beta. It never not worked. It was awesome from the start. From the earliest beta to today LOTRO has been an awesome game with virtually no bugs. But this, this is just inexcusable. I'm a programmer. For who ever was in charge of knowing how many beta keys were given out. YOUR FIRED! I would have fired me for the this epic failure of an opening day. There is no excuse for this lame set of excuses. I've read many posts from players (at least they have tried to play) and the devs and It's a sad sad day for this company.
When Cryptic announced that both CHO and STO would be not only micro-transaction based but you would also have to pay a subscription. I was done with them. Sure you can buy a $199 "Lifetime" membership to CHO, then keep paying and paying with micro-transactions for all of time. No Thanks. Not gonna fly. You either do free to play/micro-transaction or subscription. Not both. It's the "Worst of Both Worlds" imaginable.
Were looking at you BIOWARE! SWTOR here we come!
The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity. - Harlan Ellison
See what I mean about people being dramatic? lol
People freak out and act like this is a travesty and hasn't ever happened before. WoW STILL has problems on some patch days. I remember them putting out a patch that ended up erasing everyone's ingame mail for two weeks, like 6 months ago.
I also find it amusing the stance that people are taking. They want to play the game so badly, they're so angry that they can't have it right now, so they troll the forums and hate on the game and claim they'll never play it. If you'll never play it and hate the game, then why are you getting so upset over not get it right now?
Hold your breath till you pass out, stomp your feet, you're angry, we get it. The world's not gonna end, and plenty of people will be happily playing the game tomorrow.
"Because it's easier to nitpick something than to be constructive." -roach5000
I am going on 9.3% done and I have left this running all day long.. 9 hours and only 9% done.. it is pathetic patching system.
I have a 20Mbps cable connection through Mediacom and I have never had trouble downloading at high speeds. I am going at dial up speeds, actually worse then dialup with this patching system.
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
Yes, the patcher had no problems during closed beta, ever. For some reason I think we should point our fingers towards FilePlanet, since they are the ones "hosting" this open beta and Cryptic failed when trusting they'd handle this. If I remember correct, they also hosted the Age of Conan's beta and that start wasn't smooth either...
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
If they can't even manage open beta patching, how in the world are they going to handle live traffic?
This patcher sucks worse than I've ever seen. Even Vanguard functioned much better than this. At least we could get into the game. This really sucks
To be honest im getting horrible flashback to darkfall now thats bad
Where did you get that info? link please!
Get a life you freaking Gamer.....no no, you don't understand, I'm a Gamer, I have many lives!!
Open beta is a week, not two
forums.champions-online.com/showthread.php
When the servers open at 10 a.m. PDT on Monday, August 17th, everyone will have a fresh start, and you’ll be ready to experience the game from start to finish!
Servers will be taken down nightly from 1:00 a.m. PDT to 3:00 a.m. PDT for scheduled maintenance. Other than that, you can play all week long until the 24th. At 10:00 a.m. PDT on Monday, August 24th, the servers will be shut down and wiped once more in preparation for the game’s release