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Can 3 proven winners win agin?

Valgar1Valgar1 Member UncommonPosts: 324

38 studios -  codename  Copernicus is the title that is a code name for a game not yet named.

Schilling-Salvatore- Mcfarlane

The 3 have had succes in everything they have touched. Will they be able to do it agin in the MMORPG market? Or will there new MMO just be more hyp?

Discuss.

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  • FkinglinuxFkinglinux Member Posts: 156

    Mcfarlane made magic carpet and Populus correct?

  • Valgar1Valgar1 Member UncommonPosts: 324
    Originally posted by Fkinglinux


    Mcfarlane made magic carpet and Populus correct?

     

    Lol,

    I hope that was a joke

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  • Valgar1Valgar1 Member UncommonPosts: 324
    Originally posted by Fkinglinux


    Mcfarlane made magic carpet and Populus correct?

     

    Oh ok,

    your thinking of the other McFarlane.

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  • FkinglinuxFkinglinux Member Posts: 156

    No my mistake, I was thinking of Peter Molyneux.

  • Valgar1Valgar1 Member UncommonPosts: 324
    Originally posted by Fkinglinux


    No my mistake, I was thinking of Peter Molyneux.

     

    No no,

    he was from england.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,069

    Well, if you're like me, you have no clue who these 3 people are or why you might care.

    This link will help.

    www.38studios.com/people/visionaries

    But you still might not care.

    Can they make games, or good MMORPG's? Who knows?  Get back to us in 4 or 5 years and we'll see.

    Meanwhile, back to EVE.  

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  • CymTyrCymTyr Member Posts: 166

    I think if they have proper advising they can make a stellar mmo.  With their capital it should be as polished as possible before they release it, which will determine if it succeeds.

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  • Valgar1Valgar1 Member UncommonPosts: 324
    Originally posted by CymTyr


    I think if they have proper advising they can make a stellar mmo.  With their capital it should be as polished as possible before they release it, which will determine if it succeeds.

     

    Im kinda thinking that as well.  Though it might be one of those games we dont see for 5+ more years

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  • MMO_DoubterMMO_Doubter Member Posts: 5,056
    Originally posted by Valgar1



    Im kinda thinking that as well.  Though it might be one of those games we dont see for 5+ more years

    If it takes them 5 years, it had better be a different setting/theme from Blizzard's second MMO or they will be crushed.

    Schilling is a wargamer (like me), so that might have some bearing on the game's theme. An RvR game featuring small-unit infantry combat? Seems too niche but Schilling is a (relatively) well-known Squad Leader player.

    Salvatore implies fantasy, and MacFarlane implies horror or sports (he's a big baseball fan).

     

    That mix of interests suggests...

     

     

    ...nothing at all.

    "" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2

  • SnarlingWolfSnarlingWolf Member Posts: 2,697

    Success never guarantees future success, as for how long 38 studios has been talking about stuff I don't think it's going to be anything that interesting. But we shall see.

  • jayheld90jayheld90 Member UncommonPosts: 1,726
    Originally posted by Kyleran


    Well, if you're like me, you have no clue who these 3 people are or why you might care.
    This link will help.
    www.38studios.com/people/visionaries
    But you still might not care.
    Can they make games, or good MMORPG's? Who knows?  Get back to us in 4 or 5 years and we'll see.
    Meanwhile, back to EVE.  

     

    seriously...you dont know who Todd Mcfarlane is? made spawn (comic and movie) you dont know who R.A. Salvatore is? wrote quite a few original book series, the majority of which are part of the forgotten realms universe. (baldur's gate, icewind dale, neverwinter nights?) Curt Schilling, he is some sports guy, and i dont do sports.

  • MMO_DoubterMMO_Doubter Member Posts: 5,056

    Well, the three of them (not so much Salvatore) have the cash to make the game THEY want to make, without bowing to investors' demands. I don't think they are going into the business just to make a big score. It could be a first with the creative people actually controlling the development. None of them has any experience making MMOs, however. WIth all the MMO projects out there, is there enough talent available to do a good job?

    "" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2

  • MMO_DoubterMMO_Doubter Member Posts: 5,056
    Originally posted by jayheld90



    seriously...you dont know who Seth Mcfarlane is? made spawn (comic and movie) you dont know who R.A. Salvatore is? wrote quite a few original book series, the majority of which are part of the forgotten realms universe. (baldur's gate, icewind dale, neverwinter nights?) Curt Schilling, he is some sports guy, and i dont do sports.

    He is a star baseball pitcher and a wargaming fan.

    "" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2

  • AntariousAntarious Member UncommonPosts: 2,846

    Well Schilling is a game player... so he will want a game he would want to play.

     

    The real question is... Is the type of game he would love to play.. the type of game you would love to play.

     

    That is the only possible down side in my point of view.

     

    Most games seem to be made by people who wanted a "job" or play a game but not the one they are making or made.  Quite honestly if you can't create a game your own development team would want to play.. its an obvious issue.

     

    So I believe it will be a good game for "game players" .. but it might not be for everyone.. /shrug

     

    That's more than I can say in favor or most MMO's...

     

  • MMO_DoubterMMO_Doubter Member Posts: 5,056
    Originally posted by Antarious



    So I believe it will be a good game for "game players" .. but it might not be for everyone.. /shrug
     
    That's more than I can say in favor or most MMO's...
     

    Indeed, because most of them are made for the investors. Oh, Salvatore is a D&D player, so he's also a gamer. Don't know about MacFarlane in that respect.

     

    The more I think about it, the more I think that these are the guys who should have made Hellgate:London.

    "" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2

  • Jairoe03Jairoe03 Member Posts: 732
    Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

    Originally posted by Valgar1



    Im kinda thinking that as well.  Though it might be one of those games we dont see for 5+ more years

    If it takes them 5 years, it had better be a different setting/theme from Blizzard's second MMO or they will be crushed.

    Schilling is a wargamer (like me), so that might have some bearing on the game's theme. An RvR game featuring small-unit infantry combat? Seems too niche but Schilling is a (relatively) well-known Squad Leader player.

    Salvatore implies fantasy, and MacFarlane implies horror or sports (he's a big baseball fan).

     

    That mix of interests suggests...

     

     

    ...nothing at all.



     

    Exactly what I thought when looking at the link provided about these "visionaries" and looking throughout their own website. I got nothing from it, I had a hard time making sense of their importance (at least in regards to their interests and their former careers). I'll care when they produce their MMO or at the very least when they lay out more specific features about their game on their own site. For now, its all just an afterthought in my mind and a vision in theirs, nothing else.

    EDIT: I think maybe they are using their own names to create some form of hype behind what they are pursuing? That was another initial impression I got.

  • MMO_DoubterMMO_Doubter Member Posts: 5,056
    Originally posted by Jairoe03



    Exactly what I thought when looking at the link provided about these "visionaries" and looking throughout their own website. I got nothing from it, I had a hard time making sense of their importance (at least in regards to their interests and their former careers). I'll care when they produce their MMO or at the very least when they lay out more specific features about their game on their own site. For now, its all just an afterthought in my mind and a vision in theirs, nothing else.
    EDIT: I think maybe they are using their own names to create some form of hype behind what they are pursuing? That was another initial impression I got.

    Either it's just an ego trip from three fringe people with no special insight, or they have a fantastic exciting idea that they want to hide as long as possible to prevent it being copied before they can release.

    Flip a coin.

    "" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2

  • Valgar1Valgar1 Member UncommonPosts: 324
    Originally posted by Antarious


    Well Schilling is a game player... so he will want a game he would want to play.
     
    The real question is... Is the type of game he would love to play.. the type of game you would love to play.
     
    That is the only possible down side in my point of view.
     
    Most games seem to be made by people who wanted a "job" or play a game but not the one they are making or made.  Quite honestly if you can't create a game your own development team would want to play.. its an obvious issue.
     
    So I believe it will be a good game for "game players" .. but it might not be for everyone.. /shrug
     
    That's more than I can say in favor or most MMO's...
     

    I kinda felt that as well about Schilling.  He is a game player.  All the people who play MMO's that say they wish they could make one, he has the capital to actually do that.  Only problem with that is, will everyone like what he likes? probly not, but its a good start to finally get a game from people who played games.

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  • Havok2allHavok2all Member UncommonPosts: 190

    Just for clarification, it is TODD McFarlane, famous for the Spawn comic series. Seth McFarlane is the creater of Family Guy and American Dad.

  • mackdawg19mackdawg19 Member UncommonPosts: 842
    Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

    Originally posted by jayheld90



    seriously...you dont know who Seth Mcfarlane is? made spawn (comic and movie) you dont know who R.A. Salvatore is? wrote quite a few original book series, the majority of which are part of the forgotten realms universe. (baldur's gate, icewind dale, neverwinter nights?) Curt Schilling, he is some sports guy, and i dont do sports.

    He is a star baseball pitcher and a wargaming fan.

     

    He was a star baseball player, and he plays tons of World of Warcraft. Lately it seems like that is all he does.

  • MMO_DoubterMMO_Doubter Member Posts: 5,056
    Originally posted by mackdawg19



    He was a star baseball player, and he plays tons of World of Warcraft. Lately it seems like that is all he does.

    Aside from forming and helping run an MMO company?

    "" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2

  • mackdawg19mackdawg19 Member UncommonPosts: 842
    Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

    Originally posted by mackdawg19



    He was a star baseball player, and he plays tons of World of Warcraft. Lately it seems like that is all he does.

    Aside from forming and helping run an MMO company?

     

    Depends on how you see it as he is rarely in the studio. He even mentioned in an article that he's usually not there during baseball season. Hes more of an investor although he stated he makes sure his idea's get across.

  • MMO_DoubterMMO_Doubter Member Posts: 5,056
    Originally posted by mackdawg19



    Depends on how you see it as he is rarely in the studio. He even mentioned in an article that he's usually not there during baseball season. Hes more of an investor although he stated he makes sure his idea's get across.

     

    I'd say having a major investor who is  a gamer and MMO player is a pretty big plus. It's the investors who ultimately make the decisions, after all.

    "" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2

  • mackdawg19mackdawg19 Member UncommonPosts: 842
    Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

    I'd say having a major investor who is  a gamer and MMO player is a pretty big plus. It's the investors who ultimately make the decisions, after all.

     

    Exactly! I think every investor should be interested in their product. If not, then how would they ever know it's good. =)

  • jayheld90jayheld90 Member UncommonPosts: 1,726
    Originally posted by Havok2all


    Just for clarification, it is TODD McFarlane, famous for the Spawn comic series. Seth McFarlane is the creater of Family Guy and American Dad.

     

    my bad, i totally meant todd.

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