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posible to mob-grind to level up?
coldfreedom
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i came from lineage 2 and im sure you too since i see most of you address your char by "toon" lineafe 2 poeple call toon too.
so my question is it posible to grind mobs to level up? and not doing quest?
i played lineage 2 and other korean games and it is nothing but mob grind. quest grind is poop and not that effective. lineage 2 and othe rkorean games is all about mob grind. but in champions and other western mmo it is all about quest grind. quest give whole lot of expthan killing mobs.
so im wondering if it is posible to levl up by jus killing mobs and not doing quest? i mean we do have to do quest to get out ofthe tutural but what about in the real zone like aftermath millenium city? can we jus kill and kill mobs to level up and not do quest?
yeah most people hate lineage 2 and most korean mmos cause nothing but mob grind. but in my opinion i dont have a problem killing mobs mindlessly, super repetitively and boring and zzzzz kill kil and kill camp in one place and jus zzzz kill killl thats not a problem for me IF our attacks/powers look cool and sound cool! i wouldnt like mob grind at all in western mmo such as lotro, vanguard ect.. since our attacks is plain and boring
in champions our attacks look davastating and sound davastating! like earthquake explosion! euruption! bo0m! bo0m! so fun to attack with our powers. i wouldnt mind to do mindlessly repeptitively mob grind all day and level up.
but thats the question..... is champions posible to jus mob grind and not do quest? cause quest grind is boring for me. its jus run this right that get this get that. kill this kill that. kill zombie to get necklace and bring to npc ect... go there go there earrands.... tired. AND MOST OF TIIME I DONT EVEN KNOW WHERE to do or find stuff. like say quest tell to do something and u dont know how or find where. like champions quest in torial..... the satelite console quest.... i didnt even know what to do! do i supose to kill mob or find console? i found an object called something with console but dont know what to do with it. i tried to pick up crates and throw at it and nothig happend. also spent most time wandering around finding a way to move foward to other zone. its like more time to figure out how to go foward than having fun attacking mobs.... but attacking mobs in totrial in no fun too cauee if we dont do quest we cant move foward to other zone.
so yeah is it posible to mob grind to level up without doing quest? i like our attack in this game caus eit is davastating.... great sound to hear and great looks to see. attacks are jus amazing and not ordinary slow plain and boring typical attack like in lorto, vanguard ect.....
lineage 2 and other korean mmo i like about it is the attacking is jus incredibly fast pace and awesome to look at while western sword ffighting mmo ius jus plain slow and boring. but champions is different. champions is power! fast pace!!! awesomely fast pace! it dont need no freaking long bar each time we cast a spell! casting a spell in typical western mmo is so boring and slow!but with champions is fast as hell! although it does have bar but t is insanely fast! fast attacks and and awesome to look at! i dont mind mob grind for this game!
but my question is..... is mob grind effective for leveling up? cause i dont want to spin mosttime running around figuring out what i supose to do. although it does have circles and ovals on maps for quest.... but still go there and dont know what to do... and i jus dont like quest grind go this go there bring this to her have this to him kill and get that get this earrands... wokring.... not fun. espeially when npc dont have voice over for us.
if npc have full voice over for quest dialogue it would help alot! cause people like me dont read much. especially in mmo... i dont read much. i do read in finall fantasy 7, final fantasy 8 and suikoden 3 but jus not in mmo.... why? cause the ques tin mmo is boring to read anyway cause it is not like console game... console game is all about story and i read for story. but in mmo is different.
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as i do quest i don't fly over or run past mobs i grind on the way to the quest, there is no lack of mobs to fight in this game and i would get nice xp if i was killing mobs my lvl or over anything lower then me was not really worth it but you can try to round up a bunch since you can tank there damage and mass kill for the xp, but if you run away from them and do no keep doing damage they will stop the chase and run back to there travel paths
If you want more people to respond, you might want to write to express yourself with some semblance of coherency. Anyhow....
Can you grind? Sure. I don't see why you would want to, as you would miss the mini-storylines of the quests, the quest rewards (money and items), and probably want to beat yourself in the head a dozen times after a few hours of doing so.
Cracking me up saying you hate the quest gind and want to Mob grind.
Yes, it is possible however, MUCH, MUCH slower than QUEST. Might I suggest something for you. This is someting I do a lot some times when soloing.
Take the quests and then kill everything in between you and the quest points. Do not just skip from NPC quest giver to Map Waypoint, perform task, return to quest giver. You can attack all mobs between NPC quest giver and the quest waypoint. Actually kinda fun. Also, you will get other NPC Civilians running up to you and telling you that someone is in a bank/museum or something. You then get a timed mission to make it to a waypoint and take them all out. Another thing that might be of interest to you.
Say hello, To the things you've left behind. They are more a part of your life now that you can't touch them.
It's possible.
I haven't seen any herding yet though, no passive AOE's to aggravate them all, also the majority of mobs are ranged attackers.
Its possible but..i wouldn't suggest it you'd miss out on several encounters that are most ilkely important in the overall scheme of the story arc. Infact in some areas you can't skip the quests ... the tutorial zone and the crisis zones you have to complete the quests.
Mob grinding = uber boring in my opinion but its possible ... just might take you a really really long time to level its a quest built game.
It is possible but probably not effective. I think around lvl 10 last time I checked to level up killing mobs you would need to kill around 1200 mobs regular mobs. Course they have been messing with xp so it might be more or less at release.
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Ethion
Yes you can level by just grinding and not doing quests. But it is not worth it as it will take a very long time to reach each level. You will get only 5 to 40 exp points per mob killed.
Much, much better to do as others are saying to gind kills on way to quests and on way back from them.
I would imagine a gold farmer may want to create a script to endlessly auto-farm mobs, but not doing quests because they are 'boring' so instead you endlessly attack the same monsters using the exact same power set is analogous to not reading books because they are boring, so instead you read microfilm with a magnifying glass.
Eventually the first quest for me became somewhat dull because I had done it several times, but I actually got a kick out of some of it. Especially saving the cat, and dealing with Kinetik. "GO FOR IT...LAUNCH THE IRONCLAD DEFENSE SYSTEM".
Just because you refer to your character as toon doesnt mean lineage 2. Been using that term sense the eq1 days.
I've found throughout CB and OB that grinding is definitely not the fastest way to go about leveling, and that they really insist on using the quests. You gain a substantial amount more experience from questing rather than just killing, which is unlike every other MMO I've been in where I found I could grind and level just as easily as I could quest and level.
That is seeriously an EPIC Sig!
Say hello, To the things you've left behind. They are more a part of your life now that you can't touch them.
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Calling your character a toon did not start in Lineage 2. It has been used in many games, way before L2 came out.
I believe it's used predominately in CoH and CO because it's supposed to be like playing a comic book. Nothing to do with Lineage.
On Topic:
Yes you can level by grinding on mobs, but it takes WAY longer than doing quests.
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about "toon" oh ok. i thought only lineage 2 people call that.
what? someone say something about gold farmers and mob grind? yeah i agree that mob grind benefit gold farming bots but theres got to be some way that can make mob-grind while making difficult to benefit botters.
and what? so quest-grind is huge more exp than mob-grind? i knew it cause it seems that way. man now i dont know if i should suncribe. cause while in beginning city it was a 2 hour toture for me at the first time figuring what to do and what to kill. especially the console sately quest. dont know what i supose to do on that quest, after grusome time wasted a yellow icon apear on the gurella head and give me jacket quest which will lead to moving foward and GTFO of here. made next character took me 50min of torture in beginner city before going to crisis zone.
so i guess i either bare the torturing quest-grind to have fun with awesome powers and unlock new awesome powers and have a blast in pvp or either dont subscribe.
Well this game not gonna have the strong pvp that lineage is known for. You should look into Aion.
This game i dont think you can mob grind unless devs fixed the value of them,. I remember when I was lvl 12ish mobs only gave like pitful xp versus qquests granted 2->3k xp.
Guess wait and see tomorrow when early start happens and we see if the xp rate for mobs is still low. Was so bad i couldnt see any reason to kill extra ones
You might kind of like EVE. You never have to do quests nor ever kill a mob. However you do have to wait for skills to train. And youre fun factor is heavily dependant on the Corp you join
It is posible to grin a level, but questing is much, much faster and more rwarding.
Dont skip mobs while questing. Kill them as you go and you get a little more xp, some "cash" and maybe a drop item.
Oh, and toons, come from cartoons. Wich I heard back in the old EQ days. Not sure if it was used before that.
Also, the term Ding! to signify that you have leveld started with EQ, it was the sound you heard when you did level. Again, not sure if it was used before that.
As for PvP, CO isnt really a PvP game. Theres arenas you can PvP in, but No world PvP like in L2...or Aion.
Dax.
Ah that is true. The first two short tutorial zones do require you to quest. Once you have finished the starting zone that takes about 20-30 minutes and is like maybe 10 quests, you go to desert or canada tutorial zones. these also have a few more required quests and you also must do the crafting quest. Once you finish this area then you can play without questing.
although really there may be points you need to quest to unlock certain areas or accomplish things to open up options. Not to mention that the high end game is kinda about questing with unity quests and nemisis quests. Although it is very reasonable that you could just kill mobs and do pvp.
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Ethion
Possible? Yes.
Painful? Definitely
But being from Lineage you should be used to that.
It is rewarding if you into the perks. Some perks require you to kill 1k+ of said mobs, the perks will turn into point where you can buy special stuff (action figures, weapons) from the perk vendor.
It may not be a good way to level but it is fun (and the attacks are so fun with no cooldown / downtime) and item drops is decent.
Not sure, I haven't tried much. However, the current mob xp is pretty low compared to mission rewards. One possibility if that bothers you is all the travelling that missions imply, is combining mob grinding in open missions. That way, there is not need to travel much, you grind xp from mobs and at the end of the open mission you will receive xp based on your contribution.
The real downside to grinding levels by just killing mobs is gear. All the best gear as you level up is from quests.
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The real downside to grinding levels by just killing mobs is gear. All the best gear as you level up is from quests.
Actually the best gear is crafted so far all the best gear my friends and I had we made. The Quest gear though holds you over until you can craft better. The drops n quest gear is also good for Researching (breaking down) in order to open up more crafting recipes.
Man I so hate the word 'gear' where did this term come from?
I've heard my WoW friends use this term and it drives me nuts. No one in EVE refers to equipment/items as such.
One of the definitions for the word gear is equipment. There is no difference from saying equipment or gear since they mean the same thing.
After the final XP nerf - even then more XP was added again, the XP output was WAY too low to grind levels via mobs. Even before it wasnt really something you'd enjoy.
I don't see why you can HATE quest grinding when your excuse was you can't find them, or they say go kill said mobs. Considering the fact you said you want to kill mobs to level, why not do a quest when killing mobs and get more exp/money/items? Then, when you can't find quests for your level, you can use the Crime Computer in your quest log to find quests to do, on top of the fact that if you are nearby they show up on your map/minimap. Then, when you get the quests, they have a giant green circle around the area where the quest would take place. If it's killing mobs, or finding items around mobs, it's no different than just killing the mobs since they tell you exactly where they are. If not really close.
I'm not saying quest leveling is the way to go. I actually would rather just kill things with good exp than get quests, but oh well. I'd rather get good exp from quests and crap exp from mobs, than crap exp from mobs and quests.