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Seems like the chair selling garbage need it's own thread.
The chairs. mmo's have put in auctions halls for a reason no more spamming region chat or auction chat its all on the same screen no one wants to see this. but here Aion does a bang up job so you do not have to see it in /1 or /2 now you have a bunch of people in every camp starting out with numbers ranging from about 10+ per base camp to upwards of 80+ in the main city they have a auction hall are people to cheap to pay a small fee to sell their items at auction? no no its much better for me to try to move around these people in their chairs spaming selling my garbage ass normal white items for thousands to tens of thousands of gold I get this is a Asian game and gold sellers are part of their communtity because its a job for some of them over their but take it out of the NA/EU game you do not have to target them any more no one wants to go through a place to see come to bla bla bla .com cheapest gold around and power leveling from x it is not like the chairs will stop them from spamming my mail box as well. I will give credit to darkfall and mortal online their I bet they do not have many gold sellers if any at all..
Call me a raging dick head, a Asshole, a snob or a arrogant bastard and I will say thank you for noticing.
I say this because these chair sellers remind me of the people you see IRL around college towns, major cities, major events, and when you travel over see's to poorer countries.
They are the 4 card monty dealers, the knock off sellers, the hey look what fell of the truck guy's, the little kids with the let me take a picture of you, or buy these little home made trinkets of shit..
I loath these people and wish they would go back to their shanties and stop cluttering up the scenery.
The same goes here, use the auction hall, with all the various ways to travel it can not be that out of the way to get items what is next set up shop in a instance ??
I can understand the market value of pricing now( thank you for that long informative read I did like that) on crafted good and consumable's with limited auction space.
This was mainly directed at the asshats who sell the common equipment in the starting zones and try to rip newb's off and then carry their ways into the city selling items I sell to a vendor because they are common. If some one else would use it then here you go, its better then what you got have it, yet again its a common item not a ultra rare one in a lottery chance to get item that you have to have your own private little shop to hawk this junk IRL this called loitering, T
then to top it off being the smarty masters of selling that they are they put their little shops bye the quest givers and the main walk ways to get optimum potential customers I do not want to have to move around these jack ass's to get to things that I need or have to go to to get to or see their "xxxxxxx" when I am talking to a quest giver or returning a quest move to a place away from these spot's or in the city I do not know why not set up a place like a market where people can go to you not have to go around you this seems to work well IRL with art fairs,and a lot of other events that happen all the time all year long in most cities and college towns.
You might as well put the rest of the street eirchants in the game the people playing musical instruments badly, bum's begging for change homeless people why not they will fit right into the scenery with these chair sellers...
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I find that the sellers of tables are more porblematic.
A quote from my response to the other thread besides your argument being completely ignorant and ridiculous.
"You are taking this wayyyyy too serious!
So your OK with murdering people, going through portals to their homeland with the intent of killing, murdering and pilaging as much as possible, that is all fine!
But we wont have those gypsie sellers in chairs! OHHH NO! They remind you of those people trying to sell you trinkets, we will only condone murder and pilaging.
You sir have your moral compass all messed up lol."
Personally, I agree with you. Its the one thing in asian games that I absolutely hate. You get 50 people with their booth setup just passed a gateway in or a portal in and it can really lag the area until everything loads up. If they want to let people use this type of selling, I really wish that they would restrict it to its own merchant zone. That way you dont have to put up with all the crap unless you want to go looking.
I always hated vendor selling and trade chat spamm.
An auction house should be the only way to sell shit. This goes for all mmo's not just Aion.
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You are doing it wrong!
I care about your gaming 'problems' and teenage anxieties, just not today.
Their are 3 things that have been going on from the start of man kind and have and will always be war,killing for money, and money for sex.
My job IRL has been security consultant/ body guard/problem solver that is the PC way of saying what it is that I have done.
Retired now, now I am a profesional sports gambler.
Morals are just other people's opinions and matter little to me unless I know them or of them, like a cop when you see human nature and all the great moral things people do on a daily basis to each other the stuff that does not even make it into the news then talk to me about morals
I would hate to see how this also afects some one running the game on a DSL line and a min spec computer it must also bring your FPS down do to lag from this in the main city I run a extreamly high end gaming computer on a 20meg cable line so this does not hamper my play but I never experianced lag on WAR either and ran graphics on high while almost everyone else complained about lag during seiges in WAR running on fastest frame rate with almost every thing turned off.
Love the gypsie chair sellers, find some damn good stuff for cheap!
The issue is chat spam and having a bunch of people sitting around blocking the way. If you've ever played an Asian MMO you know how bad it can get. I agree that something should be done to stop it, and I am not even interested in this game. The references to gypsies and whatnot were just real world examples of this situation.
You took this wayyyyy to serious.
In general it doesn't bother me but it is annoying as hell in the city since 500 people decide to set up shop where you port in. I do wish within the cities they had a set location for this. Outside of that all the more power to them.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
I do as well. And they make the city feel like a city.
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Two things. Learn to punctuate. And learn the difference between their, there, and they're. Your "paragraphs" are little more than run-on sentences. Your rant is barely readable.
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No it does not.
But you made it anyway and now you are cluttering up the forum scenery.
You are a forum gipsy.
I care about your gaming 'problems' and teenage anxieties, just not today.
I do not see a real problem in it. There is an auction house where 95% of the Western Market is going to do their shopping, but at the same time there's going to be a group of people who park their characters somewhere and market goods.
This is semi-beneficial to EVERYONE. If you are running low on potions, instead of having to hike all the way back to the main city and hit up the auction house, you can possibly find a player selling the potions for you right in one of the towns where you are questing at. I don't see this being as much as an issue as a benefit.
Not everybody is going to remember to carry enough potions or stock up on certain items. What about the collecting quest items? Would it make sense for you to go and power level up your collecting skills to do a quest? Or just buy the items from a guy standing right next to the quest giver? Or would you rather take the quest and then use your Return spell to go to the main city and use the Auction House and waste a good 5 - 10 minutes of time doing that?
As long as it doesn't get out of control and the people doing the selling are not doing ridiculous advertising, then it should be fine. For the most part, I think the people having the most issues with the whole thing are the people who aren't looking at the benefits and are just nit picking something that doesn't fit their view of the demographic. If you don't like trying something new, then why bother changing games to begin with? Give things a shot before you start crying that it's a burden on your gameplay. I've yet to see the huge number of sellers you are predicting in any of the beta events.
What I have seen, however, is a large usage of the Auction House. If you don't want to use the chair sellers, ignore them. It's that easy. The only difference is that there's a person standing there with a sign on their head sitting in a chair versus an avatar just standing there doing nothing afk.
No it does not.
But you made it anyway and now you are cluttering up the forum scenery.
You are a forum gipsy.
LMAO... XD
i think personal shops are a cool feature.. provide more ways to trade instead of sticking an item in an aution house for x ammount of money and waiting for someone to buy it out...
i knows its old but if anyone played runescape back in the day (before they bought in that auction house thing which basically controlls the economy) when you use to go to the main towns to sell all your goods in the market place, i found that so much more fun and more chalenging than sticking it into an auction house.. plus it adds more of a role play feeling as u can be a salesman within the towns around the world.. i got known for selling certain materials in that game, was fun and i made a lot of regular customers.
i dislike auction houses really.. not really an auction just a lazy way to sell goods..
edit: AH also makes it far easier for gold farmers to merchant items.. i remember on wow the gold farmers on my sever use to buy all say.. essence of fire off the AH and then put them all back on for double the price.. see easy way to merchant and to make easy gold lol
Yeah come back and tell me the same thing in a couple of weeks / months when you enter a town and your graphic card will start crying because there's a shitload of personal stores on your screen, to the point where you can't make up the color of the tiles on the ground or can't find the NPC you need to speak with to finish your quest since he will be lost somewhere in that crowd....
Personal stores are stupid and a pain in the ass in the long run, end of story... You just watch when they'll take over the towns and capital cities... Not mentionning the gold farmers that will be in the bunch too...
For the old timers here that played Ragnarok Online: you know what I'm talking about...
I have no problem with the personal shops. I like the AH much more, because it's easier to find things. I will still check out certain shops depending on what they advertise. You may find much better deals than on the AH.
The thing I wish they would do is, allow you to open your shop while you do things. That way I could sell what won't fit on the AH while I'm questing, or PvPing. It would also be nice since you would run into people who may have things you need. The text would have to go if this were to happen, though. If I remember correctly FFXI had a bag icon next to your name if you were selling things.
The shops used for their intended reasons are typically fine and there's far fewer of them.
It is the Kinah spammers with their 900,000K bandage for sale shouting about Aion Kinah and powerleveling every 3 feet of game space that drives me nuts
I do as well. And they make the city feel like a city.
Indeed, i Love some of the things they post on top of there chairs, they can make my day in an instant ^^
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I love the shops myself. I do agree in a city there should be areas put aside for personal shops.
I can't wait to start referring to myself as a "chair seller" when I talk to my legion mates (;^_^)
hmm , so you pay monthly for this and get the same spam/scam garbage delivered ?
interesting.....
Although I wish they wouldn't clog the main roads, I don't have a huge problem with the vendor stands... You are right though on the global spam... but as someone else said Good sh** cheap prices.
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Shift-F12 is your friend
hides other players for when you are running into a busy private shop area, providing you wish to not see them.