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World of Warcraft: Faction Change Service Now Live!

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  • MMO_DoubterMMO_Doubter Member Posts: 5,056
    Originally posted by Velsha


    I wonder how they are going to explain the change lore wise.  Right now it kind of sounds like, "Oh wow, I went to sleep as a Night elf Mohawk and now..wow..now I'm an Orc Warrior!  Watch me dance!  Can't touch this..Rawr!"
    I'd love it, if they'd put in a system similar to EQ2's where though an epic system of quests (even if to get on the quest you had to purchase the starter) where you can change your allegiance. 
    That would be a much better way to handle it, yes.
    Wouldn't it be fun to run around as an evil gnome
    Is there any other kind? Anyway, Horde will have its own annoying midgets soon enough.
    or hang out smelling up Stormwind as a troll?
    I guess, to me, a character is who you are.  Changing race, sex, age, unless done magically as some sort of evil wizard's punishment, is dumb and would be hard to explain in lore. 
    But then I guess lore is lost on a lot of gamers now a days.

    WoW was never about the story, anyway.

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  • just1opinionjust1opinion Member UncommonPosts: 4,641
    Originally posted by wizyy


    We got many servers already where Horde side dominates and it's impossible to win Wintergrasp as an Alliance side. With this faction change available now, I expect this to become EVEN WORSE.
    I wonder how will they remedy this (or will they?)

     

    I have never HEARD of a server where Horde players outnumber Alliance players. Across the majority of servers it has always been Alliance outnumbering Horde. What "many servers" do you mean? Now, I agree that often Horde "dominates" the Alliance, but certainly NOT generally in numbers. I think it's still pretty widely the opposite of what you've stated here.

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  • BarCrowBarCrow Member UncommonPosts: 2,195

    People love to shit on anything these days. It's an OPTIONAL service ...you do NOT have to pay any amount of money if you CHOOSE. I don't see how this is greedy or how it should be included in sub fee. Name one MMO (and there may be one of which I am unaware) ....that allows you the option to retain all your items ..(achievements ..xp..etc) and switch factions (sides...teams..whatever)..at all. Free of charge or otherwise...and not have to start all over again.  Really..what is the problem?

  • RajenRajen Member Posts: 689
    I have never HEARD of a server where Horde players outnumber Alliance players. Across the majority of servers it has always been Alliance outnumbering Horde. What "many servers" do you mean? Now, I agree that often Horde "dominates" the Alliance, but certainly NOT generally in numbers. I think it's still pretty widely the opposite of what you've stated here.

     

    Blackwing Lair horde outnumber alliance 4:1, people actually playing live it is about 9:1. I leveled 2 characters all the way to 80 and never saw an alliance character. The only time I saw an alliance was during WG and if it isn't peek hours there are times when there aren't even alliance in WG, they are always capped with tenacity even in peek hours when they are there though.

     

    So yeah just to let you know that is a server that have horde outnumbering to an overwhelming extent. =)

     

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    I don't think the issue is that you can change factions...the price is the issue.. i mean $30? really? >_> this just helps me not look back on my cancelled subscription. It is just some automatic process they have set up... rip off

  • SuniojSunioj Member Posts: 261

     Next Blizzard will have a paid service that allows you to auto generate a Level 80 character with all current top level Tier gear all for one low price.... I digress.... Blizzard show not have allowed this type of service.  I consider this a jump the shark move.

    Momo sucks, I have proof.

  • googajoob7googajoob7 Member Posts: 866

    i agree this really does show the way things are headed in warcraft . i m not one of the people that thought it was a terrible game but i m dismayed at the way things have gone in the last two years . i m sure Blizzard will impliment anything now they think they can get away with . Item shops proberbly wont be far off either

  • Ramonski7Ramonski7 Member UncommonPosts: 2,662

    Cry me a freakin river.........get over yourselves for thinkin this is just another potential nail in evil Blizzard's coffin. Like some have said, WoW is an established MMO with 5 years under it's belt and several players of many different situations. So now they are providing a account service to allow friends to maybe join other friends on different servers of a different faction.....boo freakin hoo.

     

    They were also smart enough to price it at a amount to stave off potential abusers or switch happy loons from wanting to do it every single day/week/month. I could see if this was a fairly new MMO that's trying to milk every dime they can, but do you really think Blizzard's hurtin for money? Hell no, it's just a (fairly complicated) service that they alone have figured out how to do, with little interuption to the player who may happen to want to rejoin old friends or an old guild.

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  • SuniojSunioj Member Posts: 261
    Originally posted by Ramonski7



    with little interuption to the player who may happen to want to rejoin old friends or an old guild.

    I have no problem with that.  However if a player is going to re-join or reconnect with friends or a guild.  Wouldn't that player already be part of that faction with a character ready to go?

    Momo sucks, I have proof.

  • TisiphoneTisiphone Member Posts: 486


    Originally posted by Rajen
    Blackwing Lair horde outnumber alliance 4:1, people actually playing live it is about 9:1. I leveled 2 characters all the way to 80 and never saw an alliance character.

    Wow, was I ever on the wrong servers! ^^

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  • arctarusarctarus Member UncommonPosts: 2,581
    Originally posted by Sunioj

    Originally posted by Ramonski7



    with little interuption to the player who may happen to want to rejoin old friends or an old guild.

    I have no problem with that.  However if a player is going to re-join or reconnect with friends or a guild.  Wouldn't that player already be part of that faction with a character ready to go?

     

    Yes, 1 of their toon maybe already with them. But he may want to bring the rest of his toon over...

     

     

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  • RajenRajen Member Posts: 689
    Originally posted by Ramonski7


     
    They were also smart enough to price it at a amount to stave off potential abusers or switch happy loons from wanting to do it every single day/week/month. I could see if this was a fairly new MMO that's trying to milk every dime they can, but do you really think Blizzard's hurtin for money? Hell no, it's just a (fairly complicated) service that they alone have figured out how to do, with little interuption to the player who may happen to want to rejoin old friends or an old guild.

     

    I wouldn't call the pricing smart... look at blizzcon for example, they charged $40 for a stream, in turn they had tons of people not even bother buying it and just leeching/stealing the stream for free because of the outrageous holier-than-thou pricing.

     

    Why would blizzard develope something then intentionally discourage its use? That lacks logic... when it comes to business they aren't trying for personal goals they are trying to make money, wouldn't having a lower, more reasonable price, say.. $10 make more money as more people would be purchasing it. $30 is almost the price of an expansion pack...

     

    I'm all for the implementation of the faction change by the way

  • RealmLordsRealmLords Member Posts: 358

    Faction change rocks!  For the money it sure beats the time of rolling an alternate faction toon.  Now just find an alt and move it.

    I can see it making a mess of RVR balance.  Tired of losing in BGs?  Switch sides.  Heh, good luck with that.

     

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  • junitaliajunitalia Member UncommonPosts: 20

    I'm a bit diasappointed in some of you WoW players. "Why make faction changes? Why not just start over?" How about because not everyone has lvl 80 friends on an opposing faction to help them instance grind or maybe they do but why reroll another mage when you already have one wasting away? Some of you might have the time and energy to put into that, but not everyone does. Again, Blizzard has had many good games and many years under their belt. To be able to offer the stuff they have, you should be grateful because they're the ONLY company that boasts such things! Are you all such spoiled brats that you can't appreciate something good? Maybe mommy and daddy should pull the silver spoon from your mouth and teach you what being grateful is all about!

     

    I'll say it again...If you like it, fine. If not, fine...stop complaining about it and just move on!

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  • SwaneaSwanea Member UncommonPosts: 2,401
    Originally posted by end0rphine

    Originally posted by Swanea Red is my additions


    Oh yes. Got to love how this MT store for blizzard is so well accepted and perfectly fine, yet anything for any other sort of game is "retarded, dumb, causes people to leave the game, etc, etc, etc". That's just a personal opinion.
    Yes, it's not offering uber items YET.  But it is still offering things in a store, more or less.  And it's cool, right? Because it's blizzard and wow? Faction changing is completely different. It's a service from the company, which I add is harder to execute since they have to take into consideration the items on the account and compatibility with the chosen race. This is far from a microtransaction store, and is warmly welcomed since WoW is an established game, hence more experienced players wanting to change factions.

     

     

    You are paying for something ingame.  If you wish to call it something other than MT, RMT, or whatever, you are still buying "items" in the store, to change something in game.  This "Item", instead of going into your inventory, lets you change name, faction, race, or looks.  You are using real money, outside of the subscription, to change things in game...

    And my first line was an opinion.  Yet, with the slightest MENTION of any sort of MT (For lack of a better wording since you and others do not wish to call it thus) for SWTOR, put this forum and especially the tor forums into an uproar.  There was no persuading people.  It was screamed, post after post, what a horrible thing it was.  But those same people enjoyed the MT store that wow has.  

    Why is it so different?  If I am horde, and you switch to alliance, aren't you experiencing content that I cannot see without spending money or large amounts of time to reroll?  Hmm....Funny how that is ignored.

    And since they have done things they had said in the past, "we have no plans for this at this time", why is class changes so far off?  Why is race changes inter faction so far off? 

    Blizzard is not full of idiots.  They know what they are doing. They know this will bring in tons more money. They have other things they plan to do, to bring in even more.  Good for them if people are willing to pay for the service.

    I enjoyed WoW while I played. It is a great game.  Open world pvp, the raiding, the huge number of people to interact with. The ability to do any sort of instance at any level, anytime and get a group.  It's just funny how much of a double standard people can have.  If you are going to support a MT that wow has, but completely ignore any other game that has something very similar, that's okay?  It's fun to completely ignore the other side of the argument when it serves your side!

    I do not enjoy MTs that give your character a huge advantage. Where you play a "free game" only to need to buy items to progress.  That is the bad kind of MT for sure.  I have no problem with Wows.  Just making a point that people seem fine with only blizzards version....

  • Ramonski7Ramonski7 Member UncommonPosts: 2,662
    Originally posted by Rajen

    Originally posted by Ramonski7


     
    They were also smart enough to price it at a amount to stave off potential abusers or switch happy loons from wanting to do it every single day/week/month. I could see if this was a fairly new MMO that's trying to milk every dime they can, but do you really think Blizzard's hurtin for money? Hell no, it's just a (fairly complicated) service that they alone have figured out how to do, with little interuption to the player who may happen to want to rejoin old friends or an old guild.

     

    I wouldn't call the pricing smart... look at blizzcon for example, they charged $40 for a stream, in turn they had tons of people not even bother buying it and just leeching/stealing the stream for free because of the outrageous holier-than-thou pricing.

     

    Why would blizzard develope something then intentionally discourage its use? That lacks logic... when it comes to business they aren't trying for personal goals they are trying to make money, wouldn't having a lower, more reasonable price, say.. $10 make more money as more people would be purchasing it. $30 is almost the price of an expansion pack...

     

    I'm all for the implementation of the faction change by the way

     

    Lol I'm sure Blizzcon has it's fair share of moochers, but for you to magically know how the $40 price tag performed among it's player base is folly on your part. Just as I could assume that Blizzard may have outsourced the contract of streaming the event, which in turn cost. Or maybe they thought that charging less than 1/2 the cost of an actually ticket to their event for players who were too far away to be there was reasonable. We can both play that game but let's move on shall we?

     

    You then asked why would Blizzard develop something then intentionally discourage its use? And I say the price is set to discourage its misuse. Server changes cost $25 a pop, so an extra $5 for a more complicated procedure doesn't strike me as illogical. Granted that if they charge less they could see an increase in the use of this service as well as abuse, mind you.

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  • OzmodanOzmodan Member EpicPosts: 9,726

    Personally I just don't see the need for such a service, but I am sure someone who is too lazy to level an opposite faction avatar will probably want to spend the money.

  • coffeecoffee Member Posts: 2,007
    Originally posted by Ozmodan


    Personally I just don't see the need for such a service, but I am sure someone who is too lazy to level an opposite faction avatar will probably want to spend the money.

     

    A horde Mage that switches to alliance is still a Mage.  I can pay $30 and faction change my mage to the other side or spend 2 months of sub fees leveling him and getting the gear... so whats the issue here? blizzard giving their players choice again.. HOW DARE THEY!!!!!

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  • chazmyrchazmyr Member Posts: 69

    I dont mind the idea........the ONE problem I do have with it though, is that if you play on a server that is already heavily dominated by one faction, it will only make it worse. I play on Bloodscalp and from what i've read it's like 3 horde, to 1 alliance, lol >< Now with this, many alliance will jump ship over to the horde side. And spare me the "For the Horde" BS lol it's not about horde and alliance anymore...

  • MMO_DoubterMMO_Doubter Member Posts: 5,056
    Originally posted by coffee



    A horde Mage that switches to alliance is still a Mage.  I can pay $30 and faction change my mage to the other side or spend 2 months of sub fees leveling him and getting the gear... so whats the issue here? blizzard giving their players choice again.. HOW DARE THEY!!!!!

    They're not GIVING us anything. Unless you plan on quitting right after switching, you're still going to be paying that sub fee.

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  • coffeecoffee Member Posts: 2,007
    Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

    Originally posted by coffee



    A horde Mage that switches to alliance is still a Mage.  I can pay $30 and faction change my mage to the other side or spend 2 months of sub fees leveling him and getting the gear... so whats the issue here? blizzard giving their players choice again.. HOW DARE THEY!!!!!

    They're not GIVING us anything. Unless you plan on quitting right after switching, you're still going to be paying that sub fee.

     

    It does not take them 2 months to swap your faction so no your not going to be paying that 2 months if use the faction switch. 

    So you spend $30 and get your mage,gear,exp,achievements moved over, and you can continue your progession. 

    Or spend 2 months or possible more if your ulduar geared getting your new mage to such a level.. and while your busy doing that youv'e lost 2 month of progression.

    In the end you've spent just as much money. $30 and get  instant transfer or $30+ of sub fees getting your re-roll to level. CHOICE!

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  • YakboyYakboy Member Posts: 13

    Basically they are charging people 2 months worth of game play. What they should have done is at level 20 have a chain series of quests to go on. Make it difficult and let you only do this once per character. Maybe after that you have to pay but that is a steep price they are asking. The sad thing is that they could have charged 50 bucks and most crazy WOW fans would have paid for it. Yes, next will come the blizzard online shop. You will be able to pay to change class, buy mounts, weapons, armor, and so forth. If people are willing to pay for it then you really can't blame the game company.

  • RajenRajen Member Posts: 689
    Originally posted by Ramonski7



    Lol I'm sure Blizzcon has it's fair share of moochers, but for you to magically know how the $40 price tag performed among it's player base is folly on your part. Just as I could assume that Blizzard may have outsourced the contract of streaming the event, which in turn cost. Or maybe they thought that charging less than 1/2 the cost of an actually ticket to their event for players who were too far away to be there was reasonable. We can both play that game but let's move on shall we?

     

    You then asked why would Blizzard develop something then intentionally discourage its use? And I say the price is set to discourage its misuse. Server changes cost $25 a pop, so an extra $5 for a more complicated procedure doesn't strike me as illogical. Granted that if they charge less they could see an increase in the use of this service as well as abuse, mind you.

     

     

    My blizzcon information was based off of seeing it personally. I only watched two streams that were up, which had about 10,000 viewers on both at once, that was only 2 streams there were a number of other streams. Say if they had only charged $5 and had 1000 of those 20,000 viewers buy it they would of made way more money rather than the $80 they got off of the 2 streamers. I mean it is an internet stream right? thats just ridiculous

     

    As for $30 faction change... I have to stand against it, it isn't something that is difficult to do, it is an automatic system that is already set up that requires no work at all. A friend of mine that still plays would have faction changed 4-5 characters if it was $10, meaning they could of made $50 instead of nothing since $30 is just ridiculous for one character. Complication has nothing to do with it since it is an automatic process.

     

    Meh ah well I really don't care anyway since I cancelled a whlie back, I just think it is ridiculous how they price such things and people are so wrapped up in it they can't see that it's ridiculous. Thats like charging $50 for something small like bread or milk xD

  • YakboyYakboy Member Posts: 13
    Originally posted by coffee

    Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

    Originally posted by coffee



    A horde Mage that switches to alliance is still a Mage.  I can pay $30 and faction change my mage to the other side or spend 2 months of sub fees leveling him and getting the gear... so whats the issue here? blizzard giving their players choice again.. HOW DARE THEY!!!!!

    They're not GIVING us anything. Unless you plan on quitting right after switching, you're still going to be paying that sub fee.

     

    It does not take them 2 months to swap your faction so no your not going to be paying that 2 months if use the faction switch.

    So you spend $30 and get your mage,gear,exp,achievements moved over, and you can continue your progession.

    Or spend 2 months or possible more if your ulduar geared getting your new mage to such a level.. and while your busy doing that youv'e lost 2 month of progression.

    In the end you've spent just as much money. $30 and get instant transfer or $30+ of sub fees getting your re-roll to level. CHOICE!

     

    It would not take you 2 months to level. This is just for spoiled lazy people such as your self. I love these exaggerated posts with no facts what so ever to back it up.

     

     

  • GravargGravarg Member UncommonPosts: 3,424

    bleh, just what I never wanted, to hear crybaby alliance...that's why I liked the whole KEK = LOL thing.  Don't get my wrong, alliance has some good players, but the majority of them are crybabies...horde ftw! KEK!

  • lethyslethys Member UncommonPosts: 585
    Originally posted by Death1942


    do you hear that?  it's the sound of thousands of competant alliance players running to Orgrimmar...
     
    faction imbalances here we come

    Competant alliance players, you say?  Horde are fewer but all the eight year olds in that game play Alliance.  Horde on my server had the best guilds.

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