told u people Aion fail. There is no WoW killer game ever... well maeby diablo 3...
If you werent stupid and saw the real world, you would see the game is actually doing very well, lol.... you need to get out of your cave more
Perhaps he saw that Aion is played and launched on ... 12 EU servers? That's 240 EU servers short for the moment ...
But apparently looking around and do some basic counting is not your strongest point.
Your serious right?? Your actually saying the number of servers determines how great a game is?? Ok, here are some numbers for you, the servers I played on in WoW.
Hmm, ok so a couple of them are up in the 20k players total for the server, and some of them are under 1500, most are between 5k-10k. If you look at the average ACTIVE usage accross all the US servers however, its a different story. They show 1600-2500 total usage at any given point in time.
So all these servers you like to talk about, are supporting up to 2500 people at one time. And thats not on them all, some of them are lucky to have that many TOTAL users period.
I havent' the data for what Aion expects to be able to support on each of thier servers, maybe someone has that data. I do think it is far more than the cap each of the WoW servers are currently supporting though.
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I would never lower myself to play on a server with less than 15000 players....
If the game does well, they'll add servers. If not, They'll subtract servers. I'm sure that regardless how many people NCSoft has per server, it will feel well populated when it's full, and empty if things go south...
If something dethrones WoW where subscriptions are concerned, we'll just end up sitting around speculating about what will dethrone that.
I'm just waiting for a F2P overhyped sandbox WoW clone with full PVP, epic raid bosses, instanced group content, and Crysis-quality graphics to come out. That, or something fun.
The war WoW vs. Aion is like Light vs. Darkness. It will never seize.
Fun fact though is that Aion is slightly closer to Lineage 2 than WoW.
Has this war been for naught!?! So much blood as been shed already, why must there be more casualties ! Please Father, return home safely!
fun fact is that is completely false, considering aion has absolutely nothing in common with L2 other than being an MMO, and is closer to DAOC and WOWs love child than any other MMO.
The war WoW vs. Aion is like Light vs. Darkness. It will never seize.
Fun fact though is that Aion is slightly closer to Lineage 2 than WoW.
Has this war been for naught!?! So much blood as been shed already, why must there be more casualties ! Please Father, return home safely!
fun fact is that is completely false, considering aion has absolutely nothing in common with L2 other than being an MMO, and is closer to DAOC and WOWs love child than any other MMO.
False? That'd be your OPINION, not facts. I myself see more similarities to L2 then WoW but that is MY opinion. Have you actually played L2? Seriously.
The war WoW vs. Aion is like Light vs. Darkness. It will never seize.
Fun fact though is that Aion is slightly closer to Lineage 2 than WoW.
Has this war been for naught!?! So much blood as been shed already, why must there be more casualties ! Please Father, return home safely!
fun fact is that is completely false, considering aion has absolutely nothing in common with L2 other than being an MMO, and is closer to DAOC and WOWs love child than any other MMO.
False? That'd be your OPINION, not facts. I myself see more similarities to L2 then WoW but that is MY opinion. Have you actually played L2? Seriously.
yes, i have played Lineage 2 for several years, i have a very high lvl Doombringer actually.
have you actually played Aion? LOL... they couldnt be any more different! no open pvp, only 2 races, only 8 classes, much smaller but better crafted world, no castle sieges (fortress seiges instead, but the mechanics are completely different), questing system similar to wow's, gear system that is nothing like lineage 2, clan system that is nothing like lineage 2, instanced dungeons unlike lineage 2..... i mean the list just goes on and on....
how in the world can you even THINK they are similar, there is almost no resemblance between the two games other than possibly art design.
it is NOT opinion, it IS fact, the games are absolutely NOTHING alike.
Same here. I never expected Aion to be shallow on gameplay. I thought it would have new thing for the genre but no. High hopes just drop me from pre-purchasing the game. I played a lot of free to play mmo's and Aion feels just the same. Only in better visuals. But its just it, it feels like it. The visuals and environments are the only credit Aion can get from me. But other than that, its so dull. No core or any innovation to pull off. Say PvPvE? Huh, its just like your in WoW and doing quest and getting gank at the same time.
Nothing new for sure, but for those of us who want to get away from WoW and just start over, more or less, we will switch to Aion. I mean the graphics, PvPvE, and gameplay is the same as WoW, but bottom line, we have an optimized game filled with this-gen elements, runs great, and a fresh start, can't get any better.
I'd say this game will last me till FFXIV for sure.
You fanboys are so stupid, You're actually trying to convince people that THEIR experiance with the game wasn't as bad as they felt it was. Either way it didn't suit their taste and they're telling other people who might be concerned about the same things, that Aion doesn't offer it. It's so pathetic seeing these fanboys rebuttal every negative opinion posters might have about a game, Then it turns out sales are nonexistent and the game dies because these dumb fanboys who threw away their money on it, also leave once they shamefully realize they've been protecting a mediocre game.
I'm not saying Aion is completely worthless, not even mediocre, but its nowhere near a game which can capture millions of people, except for maybe in Asia because they seem to like dull/linear/non-innovative grind MMO's.
If you're basically going to offer the same features as every other MMO on the market, make sure everything in the game is fantastically well made. This is not the case for Aion!
You fanboys are so stupid, You're actually trying to convince people that THEIR experiance with the game wasn't as bad as they felt it was. Either way it didn't suit their taste and they're telling other people who might be concerned about the same things, that Aion doesn't offer it. It's so pathetic seeing these fanboys rebuttal every negative opinion posters might have about a game, Then it turns out sales are nonexistent and the game dies because these dumb fanboys who threw away their money on it, also leave once they shamefully realize they've been protecting a mediocre game. I'm not saying Aion is completely worthless, not even mediocre, but its nowhere near a game which can capture millions of people, except for maybe in Asia because they seem to like dull/linear/non-innovative grind MMO's. If you're basically going to offer the same features as every other MMO on the market, make sure everything in the game is fantastically well made. This is not the case for Aion!
Wings are cool...what else? hm....
So basically what you're defending is your right to be a DB and bash the game? Moreover, you don't like the fact that anyone with a solid rebuttal or what you call "fanboi" is dumb but yet you have some sort of crystal ball that is spelling the games doom despite the fact that numbers are showing that they are doing just fine so far.
You are also basically saying that any other game (which is pretty much every game including WoW which pretty much stole concepts from Warhammer and then also used aspects of other pre-existing games) has to be fanstastically well made to your personal standards in order to succeed.
Cartoony graphics and flying mounts were cool too in their time...what else? hmm?
Same here. I never expected Aion to be shallow on gameplay. I thought it would have new thing for the genre but no. High hopes just drop me from pre-purchasing the game. I played a lot of free to play mmo's and Aion feels just the same. Only in better visuals. But its just it, it feels like it. The visuals and environments are the only credit Aion can get from me. But other than that, its so dull. No core or any innovation to pull off. Say PvPvE? Huh, its just like your in WoW and doing quest and getting gank at the same time.
Nothing new for sure, but for those of us who want to get away from WoW and just start over, more or less, we will switch to Aion. I mean the graphics, PvPvE, and gameplay is the same as WoW, but bottom line, we have an optimized game filled with this-gen elements, runs great, and a fresh start, can't get any better.
I'd say this game will last me till FFXIV for sure.
In the end, you're right, nothing new.
lol, try maxing your resolution or perhaps buy a better video card.
Same here. I never expected Aion to be shallow on gameplay. I thought it would have new thing for the genre but no. High hopes just drop me from pre-purchasing the game. I played a lot of free to play mmo's and Aion feels just the same. Only in better visuals. But its just it, it feels like it. The visuals and environments are the only credit Aion can get from me. But other than that, its so dull. No core or any innovation to pull off. Say PvPvE? Huh, its just like your in WoW and doing quest and getting gank at the same time.
Nothing new for sure, but for those of us who want to get away from WoW and just start over, more or less, we will switch to Aion. I mean the graphics, PvPvE, and gameplay is the same as WoW, but bottom line, we have an optimized game filled with this-gen elements, runs great, and a fresh start, can't get any better.
I'd say this game will last me till FFXIV for sure.
In the end, you're right, nothing new.
lol, try maxing your resolution or perhaps buy a better video card.
Oh, and the PvPvE is NOT the same as WoW.
Haha that made me laugh too. Not sure what resolution the poster was using but WoW to Aion is like Pokemon to Akira.
People just drop the comparing of games. Play what you like and get over the fact that other games are coming out. Good or bad. It doesn't matter. Old games come and go, as do new ones. WoW has been around and will most likely be around for at least two more years. Even if this is the WoW killer, Blizzard will try to make it last until their new MMO comes out or if they push D3 to be paid for.
Wow killer? There is no such thing. You can not copy a game that is as large as wow and expect to kill it. You can not even as much as contend with such a beast. Unless mmos evolve into an entirely different creature, you can never contend with such a creature as wow. Aion is a cosmetic achievement, not an innovative achievement. It will take a lot more than make up to defeat wow.
Wow killer? There is no such thing. You can not copy a game that is as large as wow and expect to kill it. You can not even as much as contend with such a beast. Unless mmos evolve into an entirely different creature, you can never contend with such a creature as wow. Aion is a cosmetic achievement, not an innovative achievement. It will take a lot more than make up to defeat wow.
Wow killer? There is no such thing. You can not copy a game that is as large as wow and expect to kill it. You can not even as much as contend with such a beast. Unless mmos evolve into an entirely different creature, you can never contend with such a creature as wow. Aion is a cosmetic achievement, not an innovative achievement. It will take a lot more than make up to defeat wow.
Could you put WoW on an any higher pedestal?
Well. I didn't, their fans did. For the last few years i hated wow even though I played on several servers with multiple level 80 characters. I hated wow because nothing was better. I've just come to accept the reality. Until mmos change, the gaming tradition will not.
Wow killer? There is no such thing. You can not copy a game that is as large as wow and expect to kill it. You can not even as much as contend with such a beast. Unless mmos evolve into an entirely different creature, you can never contend with such a creature as wow. Aion is a cosmetic achievement, not an innovative achievement. It will take a lot more than make up to defeat wow.
Yes they would have to make "easy mode" in aion in order to pull in those type of people.
Let's all hope that never happens !
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aion does not auto-follow your target. at best it could be called auto-run-to your target.
the controls are no different than wow other than in aion there are bonus for 'juking'
no game can kill another game. a game has to get to a point where it pushes players away. if anybody remembers, when wow released, everquest was the big game. look at it now, its still going, just not very strong.
i honestly dont understand all of the bagging on Aion, it beats WoW hands down. did any of you haters actually give the game a fair shot?
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some of you guys really crack me up. aion does not auto-follow your target. at best it could be called auto-run-to your target. the controls are no different than wow other than in aion there are bonus for 'juking' no game can kill another game. a game has to get to a point where it pushes players away. if anybody remembers, when wow released, everquest was the big game. look at it now, its still going, just not very strong. i honestly dont understand all of the bagging on Aion, it beats WoW hands down. did any of you haters actually give the game a fair shot?
I'm going to give Aion a fair shot. The passion of those that love this game won my heart over. I'll try the game this month but I'm still very, very skeptical.
some of you guys really crack me up. aion does not auto-follow your target. at best it could be called auto-run-to your target. the controls are no different than wow other than in aion there are bonus for 'juking' no game can kill another game. a game has to get to a point where it pushes players away. if anybody remembers, when wow released, everquest was the big game. look at it now, its still going, just not very strong. i honestly dont understand all of the bagging on Aion, it beats WoW hands down. did any of you haters actually give the game a fair shot?
I'm going to give Aion a fair shot. The passion of those that love this game won my heart over. I'll try the game this month but I'm still very, very skeptical.
so never tried it? yeah figures Dont hate the food till you tried it once. Had chance to do OB but guess you didnt... Dont go off words other say, do your own research and try it
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If you werent stupid and saw the real world, you would see the game is actually doing very well, lol.... you need to get out of your cave more
Perhaps he saw that Aion is played and launched on ... 12 EU servers? That's 240 EU servers short for the moment ...
But apparently looking around and do some basic counting is not your strongest point.
Your serious right?? Your actually saying the number of servers determines how great a game is?? Ok, here are some numbers for you, the servers I played on in WoW.
Khadgar - total 11680
http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php?serverid=95&factionid=-1&minlevel=1&maxlevel=80&servertypeid=-1
Balnazzar - total 3123
http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php?serverid=609&factionid=-1&minlevel=10&maxlevel=80&servertypeid=1
Khaz'goroth - total 15201
http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php?serverid=583&factionid=-1&minlevel=10&maxlevel=80&servertypeid=2
Hmm, ok so a couple of them are up in the 20k players total for the server, and some of them are under 1500, most are between 5k-10k. If you look at the average ACTIVE usage accross all the US servers however, its a different story. They show 1600-2500 total usage at any given point in time.
http://www.warcraftrealms.com/activity.php?serverid=-2
So all these servers you like to talk about, are supporting up to 2500 people at one time. And thats not on them all, some of them are lucky to have that many TOTAL users period.
I havent' the data for what Aion expects to be able to support on each of thier servers, maybe someone has that data. I do think it is far more than the cap each of the WoW servers are currently supporting though.
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
I would never lower myself to play on a server with less than 15000 players....
If the game does well, they'll add servers. If not, They'll subtract servers. I'm sure that regardless how many people NCSoft has per server, it will feel well populated when it's full, and empty if things go south...
If something dethrones WoW where subscriptions are concerned, we'll just end up sitting around speculating about what will dethrone that.
I'm just waiting for a F2P overhyped sandbox WoW clone with full PVP, epic raid bosses, instanced group content, and Crysis-quality graphics to come out. That, or something fun.
This thread is still active? Really?
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Aion has a chance, it may beat WoW if they do it right.
The war WoW vs. Aion is like Light vs. Darkness. It will never seize.
Fun fact though is that Aion is slightly closer to Lineage 2 than WoW.
Has this war been for naught!?! So much blood as been shed already, why must there be more casualties ! Please Father, return home safely!
The war WoW vs. Aion is like Light vs. Darkness. It will never seize.
Fun fact though is that Aion is slightly closer to Lineage 2 than WoW.
Has this war been for naught!?! So much blood as been shed already, why must there be more casualties ! Please Father, return home safely!
fun fact is that is completely false, considering aion has absolutely nothing in common with L2 other than being an MMO, and is closer to DAOC and WOWs love child than any other MMO.
The war WoW vs. Aion is like Light vs. Darkness. It will never seize.
Fun fact though is that Aion is slightly closer to Lineage 2 than WoW.
Has this war been for naught!?! So much blood as been shed already, why must there be more casualties ! Please Father, return home safely!
fun fact is that is completely false, considering aion has absolutely nothing in common with L2 other than being an MMO, and is closer to DAOC and WOWs love child than any other MMO.
False? That'd be your OPINION, not facts. I myself see more similarities to L2 then WoW but that is MY opinion. Have you actually played L2? Seriously.
The war WoW vs. Aion is like Light vs. Darkness. It will never seize.
Fun fact though is that Aion is slightly closer to Lineage 2 than WoW.
Has this war been for naught!?! So much blood as been shed already, why must there be more casualties ! Please Father, return home safely!
fun fact is that is completely false, considering aion has absolutely nothing in common with L2 other than being an MMO, and is closer to DAOC and WOWs love child than any other MMO.
False? That'd be your OPINION, not facts. I myself see more similarities to L2 then WoW but that is MY opinion. Have you actually played L2? Seriously.
yes, i have played Lineage 2 for several years, i have a very high lvl Doombringer actually.
have you actually played Aion? LOL... they couldnt be any more different! no open pvp, only 2 races, only 8 classes, much smaller but better crafted world, no castle sieges (fortress seiges instead, but the mechanics are completely different), questing system similar to wow's, gear system that is nothing like lineage 2, clan system that is nothing like lineage 2, instanced dungeons unlike lineage 2..... i mean the list just goes on and on....
how in the world can you even THINK they are similar, there is almost no resemblance between the two games other than possibly art design.
it is NOT opinion, it IS fact, the games are absolutely NOTHING alike.
well polished but not impressive.
can't be a million-seller or masterpiece stuff.
uninformed and unneeded comment.
cant be a worthwhile post on a forum (however, is totally a typical response).
uninformed and unneeded comment.
cant be a worthwhile post on a forum (however, is totally a typical response).
uninformed and unneeded comment
can't be a worthwhile post on a forum (however, it is a typical response) .
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I'm still thinking about checking it out.... just can't grind too much anymore, maybe I'll get hooked for a minute and I enjoy something=)
Nothing new for sure, but for those of us who want to get away from WoW and just start over, more or less, we will switch to Aion. I mean the graphics, PvPvE, and gameplay is the same as WoW, but bottom line, we have an optimized game filled with this-gen elements, runs great, and a fresh start, can't get any better.
I'd say this game will last me till FFXIV for sure.
In the end, you're right, nothing new.
You fanboys are so stupid, You're actually trying to convince people that THEIR experiance with the game wasn't as bad as they felt it was. Either way it didn't suit their taste and they're telling other people who might be concerned about the same things, that Aion doesn't offer it. It's so pathetic seeing these fanboys rebuttal every negative opinion posters might have about a game, Then it turns out sales are nonexistent and the game dies because these dumb fanboys who threw away their money on it, also leave once they shamefully realize they've been protecting a mediocre game.
I'm not saying Aion is completely worthless, not even mediocre, but its nowhere near a game which can capture millions of people, except for maybe in Asia because they seem to like dull/linear/non-innovative grind MMO's.
If you're basically going to offer the same features as every other MMO on the market, make sure everything in the game is fantastically well made. This is not the case for Aion!
Wings are cool...what else? hm....
So basically what you're defending is your right to be a DB and bash the game? Moreover, you don't like the fact that anyone with a solid rebuttal or what you call "fanboi" is dumb but yet you have some sort of crystal ball that is spelling the games doom despite the fact that numbers are showing that they are doing just fine so far.
You are also basically saying that any other game (which is pretty much every game including WoW which pretty much stole concepts from Warhammer and then also used aspects of other pre-existing games) has to be fanstastically well made to your personal standards in order to succeed.
Cartoony graphics and flying mounts were cool too in their time...what else? hmm?
Nothing new for sure, but for those of us who want to get away from WoW and just start over, more or less, we will switch to Aion. I mean the graphics, PvPvE, and gameplay is the same as WoW, but bottom line, we have an optimized game filled with this-gen elements, runs great, and a fresh start, can't get any better.
I'd say this game will last me till FFXIV for sure.
In the end, you're right, nothing new.
lol, try maxing your resolution or perhaps buy a better video card.
Oh, and the PvPvE is NOT the same as WoW.
Nothing new for sure, but for those of us who want to get away from WoW and just start over, more or less, we will switch to Aion. I mean the graphics, PvPvE, and gameplay is the same as WoW, but bottom line, we have an optimized game filled with this-gen elements, runs great, and a fresh start, can't get any better.
I'd say this game will last me till FFXIV for sure.
In the end, you're right, nothing new.
lol, try maxing your resolution or perhaps buy a better video card.
Oh, and the PvPvE is NOT the same as WoW.
Haha that made me laugh too. Not sure what resolution the poster was using but WoW to Aion is like Pokemon to Akira.
And no the PvPvE is not the same as WoW.
People just drop the comparing of games. Play what you like and get over the fact that other games are coming out. Good or bad. It doesn't matter. Old games come and go, as do new ones. WoW has been around and will most likely be around for at least two more years. Even if this is the WoW killer, Blizzard will try to make it last until their new MMO comes out or if they push D3 to be paid for.
Everyone has opinions, but does that make them the universal truth??? NO!
Wow killer? There is no such thing. You can not copy a game that is as large as wow and expect to kill it. You can not even as much as contend with such a beast. Unless mmos evolve into an entirely different creature, you can never contend with such a creature as wow. Aion is a cosmetic achievement, not an innovative achievement. It will take a lot more than make up to defeat wow.
Could you put WoW on an any higher pedestal?
Could you put WoW on an any higher pedestal?
Well. I didn't, their fans did. For the last few years i hated wow even though I played on several servers with multiple level 80 characters. I hated wow because nothing was better. I've just come to accept the reality. Until mmos change, the gaming tradition will not.
Yes they would have to make "easy mode" in aion in order to pull in those type of people.
Let's all hope that never happens !
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
some of you guys really crack me up.
aion does not auto-follow your target. at best it could be called auto-run-to your target.
the controls are no different than wow other than in aion there are bonus for 'juking'
no game can kill another game. a game has to get to a point where it pushes players away. if anybody remembers, when wow released, everquest was the big game. look at it now, its still going, just not very strong.
i honestly dont understand all of the bagging on Aion, it beats WoW hands down. did any of you haters actually give the game a fair shot?
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I'm going to give Aion a fair shot. The passion of those that love this game won my heart over. I'll try the game this month but I'm still very, very skeptical.
I'm going to give Aion a fair shot. The passion of those that love this game won my heart over. I'll try the game this month but I'm still very, very skeptical.
so never tried it? yeah figures Dont hate the food till you tried it once. Had chance to do OB but guess you didnt... Dont go off words other say, do your own research and try it
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