If you play a Touren warrior , under lvl 20 its booring aswell. or i take that back , if you play a Touren Warrior under lvl 60 its booring.
But i can ideed agree that "Happyfields are booring" but it is in everygame. Imop wow doesnt gets funny until lvl 80. Give it more time , give it to lvl 25+
I thought you were the smart one, Bubbles.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
THIS THREAD: Not that great Same old stuff, no real depth or new thoughts or anything like that. Very much like every other thread but I pulled it off worse and with less intelligence. Format was really nice. Good grammar. The one thing I could see being a major problem is the complains a lot "feature". In my thread if you click reply it will cause more flames and personal attacks both at the same time. How could this be good for a forum or inject any useful information into it what so ever? Ugh. Does it feel like we have gained anything from this thread? No. Same old boring complaints. Would I bother reading this thread when I can just read all the other ones like it? NO. NO WAY IN HELL. I mean good attempt, just...no. This style of complaining just seems like every other style of normal pointless complaining. 1. Have tried game and wasn't for me. Complain to everyone. Rinse and repeat. Just the fact that the game doesn't appeal to me really douches it up. I dunno, I guess ill just spend my time complaining instead of wasting my money on this. You can call me a troll or whatever you'd like but I saw the PVP videos and everything...and obviously those videos aren't for me. Some people will like this thread, probably the T R O L L gang.
In what way do I fail? I just gave Speed bonusses as an example in how you can outrun your opponent. If you want me to answer on webbing and that kind of stuff like in EVE? Wich basically is CC!! Aion has CC. You can root and stun oponents. Tjeez. Seriously. The moment you enter the Abyss and dozens of people clash into eachother!! Trust me. The last thing you will be using is Auto follow. Maybe in the Air you might use it a bit, to keep track of XYZ. Wich would make it pretty much the same reason as why you have it in EVE. Cheers
So you compare a fantasy game with auto attack, auto follow on with the a space combat system of .....EVE.
Like the man said above: positioning and moving away out of possible danger (read your back) is the most crucial aspect of any serious Fantasy PvP game (reducing such things as your parry rating, dodge rating, distance in which you CAN attack etc).
All the things you leave out of these fundamental principles of PvP is simply wrong. Remember the autofacing in War? Disaster.
It only promotes zerg fests and clicking the abilities. How fascinating.
I would worry more about the 50% representation of just one class in the Abyss rankings though. And after one year having only one class to represent ... 50% of the top players is saying a lot. And these are figures from an uncontrolled "world" zone, which makes it even worse.
Ah please give me a break!
Did you reach level25 in Aion? Did you experience the PVP in the Abyss? I am 110% sure you did NOT! Just like all the other trolls on these forums.
If you think that PVP in Aion is all about Auto Follow. LOL! Good luck PVP'ing and relying on Auto Follow only. You won't stand a chance.
It's just like in EVE Online. Why I compaire it with EVE Online? Because Aion is XYZ based, just like EVE Online is XYZ based.
Auto Follow aids you with the XYZ coordination, but that is pretty much it.
All the other Fantasy MMO's with PVP out there are XY only! So you cannot compaire Aion to them!
Same old stuff, no real depth of character or anything like that. Very WoW like but seem to pull it off worse with clumsier controls. Graphics are really nice. Good graphics. The one thing I could see being a major problem is the attacking "feature". On my warrior if you click attack it will autofollow/attack at the same time. How could this be good for PVP or inject any skill into it what so ever? Ugh. Does it feel like they've been in release for a whole year? No. Same old boring quests. Would I pay 50$ for release and a monthly when I can just stay subbed to another game? NO. NO WAY IN HELL. I mean good attempt, just...no. This style of play just turns into every other style of korean gameplay. 1. Have better gear and have spells queued up in the right order. Roast someone. Rinse and repeat. Just the fact that the game doesn't have a free movement system for pvp really douches it up. I dunno, I won't be wasting my money on this. You can call me a troll or whatever you'd like but I saw the PVP videos and everything...no. Some people will like it, probably the PVE gang.
You got all that from 5 minutes gameplay and a few PVP vids? Impressive.
Hello its me again. I'd just like to respond to that person who is still comparing EVE and Aion - almost like comparing some flight simulator with a game in which you can fly (can't remember any atm) and fight. Doesn't work that way.
Anyway whatever. I googled some videos so I would see for myself how high lvl pvp looks like and by the look of it it is exactly what I feared.
It is a tournament video so I guess people know what they are doing. You can see how the little one autofollows the big one (have no idea bout the classes so excuse me) which makes the game basically running in circles waiting for stun CD with occasional hitting the opponent. Terrible PVP shown in video but than again it is by rule that every MMO pvp seems boring and shitty untill you play it
Hello its me again. I'd just like to respond to that person who is still comparing EVE and Aion - almost like comparing some flight simulator with a game in which you can fly (can't remember any atm) and fight. Doesn't work that way. Anyway whatever. I googled some videos so I would see for myself how high lvl pvp looks like and by the look of it it is exactly what I feared. It is a tournament video so I guess people know what they are doing. You can see how the little one autofollows the big one (have no idea bout the classes so excuse me) which makes the game basically running in circles waiting for stun CD with occasional hitting the opponent. Terrible PVP shown in video but than again it is by rule that every MMO pvp seems boring and shitty untill you play it
Duh why don't you search for abyss pvp or some video were there's more then 2 people?
I could say the same thing in wow arena 1 vs 1 when a melee tries to reach the ranger so starts "auto routing" to reach him/her.
Hello its me again. I'd just like to respond to that person who is still comparing EVE and Aion - almost like comparing some flight simulator with a game in which you can fly (can't remember any atm) and fight. Doesn't work that way. Anyway whatever. I googled some videos so I would see for myself how high lvl pvp looks like and by the look of it it is exactly what I feared. It is a tournament video so I guess people know what they are doing. You can see how the little one autofollows the big one (have no idea bout the classes so excuse me) which makes the game basically running in circles waiting for stun CD with occasional hitting the opponent. Terrible PVP shown in video but than again it is by rule that every MMO pvp seems boring and shitty untill you play it
If you actually dig up PVP videos from the Abyss, then you would see a completely different kind of PVP.
This video is nothing different then a 1vs1 match in WoW or a 1vs1 encounter in EVE online.
So seriously, you have to do better and come up with better.
Like I said earlier. I have played both WoW and EVE online for years!
I can't find a single mass pvp video that isnt just standing still till you die (which mostly mass PVP is - that's why I gave an example of tournament one)
[quote]I could say the same thing in wow arena 1 vs 1 when a melee tries to reach the ranger so starts "auto routing" to reach him/her.[/quote] There is no autorun in wow,so no auto routing.
Personaly I don't like autorun,but yet have to test it in Aion as still can't log into OBT :[
Yeah, real PvP is about ganking someone with 75% HP who accidentally pulled too many mobs and has no cooldowns ready to be even able to react to the ganker.
Im glad most people here dont like it, we will have less crying about how this class is OP and that class is OP. At least the people with half a brain know what Aion is about and it is not experienced in the first 10 minutes of gameplay. No wonder why mmo's are rubbish these days, 90% of mmo player base are idiots.
I'd like to see a game with no auto follow and flight combat and watch and look at the masses quit. In a XYZ plane of pvp melee wouldn't stand a chance without autofollow.
Im glad most people here dont like it, we will have less crying about how this class is OP and that class is OP. At least the people with half a brain know what Aion is about and it is not experienced in the first 10 minutes of gameplay. No wonder why mmo's are rubbish these days, 90% of mmo player base are idiots.
Well, we will have to thank WoW for that.
The funny thing is, Aion will be easier than WoW, but more grindy.
I don't even know why im giving my 2 cents,... but oh well.
If you don't like then don't play it, tbh if you don't like, then no1 will miss you, we want good players, oh sht, i don't even know why I care about talking.
I guess i just get mad, play a mmo the first 5 mins and you can say what the mmo is made of??? when u need days maybe months to master it? oh fs.
Btw, how's the game doing regarding the role playing (RP) element? It's something that's very often forgotten since roleplayers are such a minority compared to your "usual" MMO drowd and all we keep hearing about is mostly just number crunching (and that's freaking boring by now, we get it)... is there any decent potential for actual roleplaying in Aion or is it your typical eastern MMO where such things are seen as frivolous and unnecessary?.
Well, not sure why they aren't but there isn't going to be an rp server. However, the server I was on had a bunch asking about rp and some were even saying it was going to be the unofficial rp server. According to whom I have no idea but it seems there is a vested interest in some to rp. So seems like if that's your thing you'll find players into it.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
I am sorry, but for me it looked like slow-mo Alterac Valley with upgraded graphics. The use of flight on this fight was merely cosmetic and served no purpose whatsoever. Use for auto-follow is of course a tad questionable if you play a 99% of time a stationary fight with two lines of players bounding each other with ranged attacks. All-in-all, I did not find this fight particularily epic and something to look for. Certainly, it will feel much different when playing it yourself which is why I am trying to level my toon to level 25 during the open beta if it is humanely just possible with my own time investment. If anyone has any other solid PvP videos from Abyss to show I would much like to see those as this one was sort of an anti-climax.
I am sorry, but for me it looked like slow-mo Alterac Valley with upgraded graphics. The use of flight on this fight was merely cosmetic and served no purpose whatsoever. Use for auto-follow is of course a tad questionable if you play a 99% of time a stationary fight with two lines of players bounding each other with ranged attacks. All-in-all, I did not find this fight particularily epic and something to look for. Certainly, it will feel much different when playing it yourself which is why I am trying to level my toon to level 25 during the open beta if it is humanely just possible with my own time investment. If anyone has any other solid PvP videos from Abyss to show I would much like to see those as this one was sort of an anti-climax.
There are sertainly a lot better videos out there. But I just got home from work, so I go have a coffee and play Aion myself. So I am not gonna bother googling for you. Go search yourself. Plenty of good videos out there.
What this video at least showed is that it's not all about Auto Follow and Auto Follow only in the big PVP fights. As some of the trolls here claim to be and expect it to be.
Same here. I never expected Aion to be shallow on gameplay. I thought it would have new thing for the genre but no. High hopes just drop me from pre-purchasing the game. I played a lot of free to play mmo's and Aion feels just the same. Only in better visuals. But its just it, it feels like it. The visuals and environments are the only credit Aion can get from me. But other than that, its so dull. No core or any innovation to pull off. Say PvPvE? Huh, its just like your in WoW and doing quest and getting gank at the same time.
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Get past the newbie area, and past lvl 10.
If you play a Touren warrior , under lvl 20 its booring aswell.
or i take that back , if you play a Touren Warrior under lvl 60 its booring.
But i can ideed agree that "Happyfields are booring" but it is in everygame.
Imop wow doesnt gets funny until lvl 80.
Give it more time , give it to lvl 25+
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I thought you were the smart one, Bubbles.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
Okay troll.
"Think like a man of action, act like a man of thought."
THIS
So you compare a fantasy game with auto attack, auto follow on with the a space combat system of .....EVE.
Like the man said above: positioning and moving away out of possible danger (read your back) is the most crucial aspect of any serious Fantasy PvP game (reducing such things as your parry rating, dodge rating, distance in which you CAN attack etc).
All the things you leave out of these fundamental principles of PvP is simply wrong. Remember the autofacing in War? Disaster.
It only promotes zerg fests and clicking the abilities. How fascinating.
I would worry more about the 50% representation of just one class in the Abyss rankings though. And after one year having only one class to represent ... 50% of the top players is saying a lot. And these are figures from an uncontrolled "world" zone, which makes it even worse.
Ah please give me a break!
Did you reach level25 in Aion? Did you experience the PVP in the Abyss? I am 110% sure you did NOT! Just like all the other trolls on these forums.
If you think that PVP in Aion is all about Auto Follow. LOL! Good luck PVP'ing and relying on Auto Follow only. You won't stand a chance.
It's just like in EVE Online. Why I compaire it with EVE Online? Because Aion is XYZ based, just like EVE Online is XYZ based.
Auto Follow aids you with the XYZ coordination, but that is pretty much it.
All the other Fantasy MMO's with PVP out there are XY only! So you cannot compaire Aion to them!
You got all that from 5 minutes gameplay and a few PVP vids? Impressive.
He is a pro man
Hello its me again. I'd just like to respond to that person who is still comparing EVE and Aion - almost like comparing some flight simulator with a game in which you can fly (can't remember any atm) and fight. Doesn't work that way.
Anyway whatever. I googled some videos so I would see for myself how high lvl pvp looks like and by the look of it it is exactly what I feared.
It is a tournament video so I guess people know what they are doing. You can see how the little one autofollows the big one (have no idea bout the classes so excuse me) which makes the game basically running in circles waiting for stun CD with occasional hitting the opponent. Terrible PVP shown in video but than again it is by rule that every MMO pvp seems boring and shitty untill you play it
Duh why don't you search for abyss pvp or some video were there's more then 2 people?
I could say the same thing in wow arena 1 vs 1 when a melee tries to reach the ranger so starts "auto routing" to reach him/her.
If you actually dig up PVP videos from the Abyss, then you would see a completely different kind of PVP.
This video is nothing different then a 1vs1 match in WoW or a 1vs1 encounter in EVE online.
So seriously, you have to do better and come up with better.
Like I said earlier. I have played both WoW and EVE online for years!
I can't find a single mass pvp video that isnt just standing still till you die (which mostly mass PVP is - that's why I gave an example of tournament one)
[quote] I could say the same thing in wow arena 1 vs 1 when a melee tries to reach the ranger so starts "auto routing" to reach him/her. [/quote]
There is no autorun in wow,so no auto routing.
Personaly I don't like autorun,but yet have to test it in Aion as still can't log into OBT :[
what's wrong with BB codes here? oO
That's why I used " "
Personally, I'm loving aion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lz8wVi4Wx2g
Here is some large scale Abyss pvp
March on! - Lets Invade Pekopon
Im glad most people here dont like it, we will have less crying about how this class is OP and that class is OP.
At least the people with half a brain know what Aion is about and it is not experienced in the first 10 minutes of gameplay.
No wonder why mmo's are rubbish these days, 90% of mmo player base are idiots.
Yeah, real PvP is about ganking someone with 75% HP who accidentally pulled too many mobs and has no cooldowns ready to be even able to react to the ganker.
Well, we will have to thank WoW for that.
I'd like to see a game with no auto follow and flight combat and watch and look at the masses quit. In a XYZ plane of pvp melee wouldn't stand a chance without autofollow.
Well, we will have to thank WoW for that.
The funny thing is, Aion will be easier than WoW, but more grindy.
mm aion will probably put a limit on auto-follow ,like it will follow for 2 second then its on 20 second cooldown
I don't even know why im giving my 2 cents,... but oh well.
If you don't like then don't play it, tbh if you don't like, then no1 will miss you, we want good players, oh sht, i don't even know why I care about talking.
I guess i just get mad, play a mmo the first 5 mins and you can say what the mmo is made of??? when u need days maybe months to master it? oh fs.
Well, not sure why they aren't but there isn't going to be an rp server. However, the server I was on had a bunch asking about rp and some were even saying it was going to be the unofficial rp server. According to whom I have no idea but it seems there is a vested interest in some to rp. So seems like if that's your thing you'll find players into it.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
I am sorry, but for me it looked like slow-mo Alterac Valley with upgraded graphics. The use of flight on this fight was merely cosmetic and served no purpose whatsoever. Use for auto-follow is of course a tad questionable if you play a 99% of time a stationary fight with two lines of players bounding each other with ranged attacks. All-in-all, I did not find this fight particularily epic and something to look for. Certainly, it will feel much different when playing it yourself which is why I am trying to level my toon to level 25 during the open beta if it is humanely just possible with my own time investment. If anyone has any other solid PvP videos from Abyss to show I would much like to see those as this one was sort of an anti-climax.
I am sorry, but for me it looked like slow-mo Alterac Valley with upgraded graphics. The use of flight on this fight was merely cosmetic and served no purpose whatsoever. Use for auto-follow is of course a tad questionable if you play a 99% of time a stationary fight with two lines of players bounding each other with ranged attacks. All-in-all, I did not find this fight particularily epic and something to look for. Certainly, it will feel much different when playing it yourself which is why I am trying to level my toon to level 25 during the open beta if it is humanely just possible with my own time investment. If anyone has any other solid PvP videos from Abyss to show I would much like to see those as this one was sort of an anti-climax.
There are sertainly a lot better videos out there. But I just got home from work, so I go have a coffee and play Aion myself. So I am not gonna bother googling for you. Go search yourself. Plenty of good videos out there.
What this video at least showed is that it's not all about Auto Follow and Auto Follow only in the big PVP fights. As some of the trolls here claim to be and expect it to be.
Same here. I never expected Aion to be shallow on gameplay. I thought it would have new thing for the genre but no. High hopes just drop me from pre-purchasing the game. I played a lot of free to play mmo's and Aion feels just the same. Only in better visuals. But its just it, it feels like it. The visuals and environments are the only credit Aion can get from me. But other than that, its so dull. No core or any innovation to pull off. Say PvPvE? Huh, its just like your in WoW and doing quest and getting gank at the same time.