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why is asian pc-game developer make prettier character?

why is asian developer make much prettier character in pc games opose to western developer?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if you look at Aion female then look at Hellgate, you will notice hellgate's look short and fat.

if you look at Zera female then look at Oblivion(non-mod), you will notice ugliness Oblivion women look

if you look at Dark Elf Female in Lineage2 then look at Dark Elf Female in EverQuest2, you will notice eq2's is ugly

if you look at female in Requiem then look at female in Half-Life 2 you will notice Half-Life 2's is ugly

if you look at Lineage 2 female then look at GuildWars1's you will notice the body look unrealistic opose to l2's.

 

 

 

now judging facial.... you will notice western is stiff, robotic and goofy looking. look at LOTRO/Vanguard/Oblivion/TwoWorlds//Gothic3/Witcher/Half-Life2 for instant then look at Aion/Lineage2/Zera/Rappelz/MabinogiHeroes/BladeAndSoul.



and why is western art outside of pc game is awesome? look at Marvel, Deathmate, WildCats, Glory, DarkChylde, HeavyMetal, PrinceOfPersiaNextGen, GoldenAxeBeastRider ect... and even Borderlands and UT3 is not hideous and its a pc game.

why is western art in pc... i mean pc-rpg games is hideous?

 

 

ps. two worlds... i must admit our sister is hot. regardless........ male npc are just robotic.

 

 

 

 

answer my self: i guess asian dev knows pretty.

 

guildwars box art look pretty but then the actual model in-game look crap..... figure, shape of body is sloppy and unrealisitc. facial was ok though. face is totally not like oblivion.

 

 

 

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  • BarteauxBarteaux Member Posts: 483

    A pretty face helps when you can't spell.

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  • IlvaldyrIlvaldyr Member CommonPosts: 2,142

    They don't. They just make ones that look much, much younger.

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  • LtJohnnyRicoLtJohnnyRico Member Posts: 214

    They don't. They make a pedophile fantasy.

  • KilmarKilmar Member UncommonPosts: 844

    Pretty = girly ?

  • UpskirtPowerUpskirtPower Member Posts: 230

    if you look at Aion female then look at Hellgate, you will notice hellgate's look short and fat.

    if you look at Zera female then look at Oblivion(non-mod), you will notice ugliness Oblivion women look

    if you look at Dark Elf Female in Lineage2 then look at Dark Elf Female in EverQuest2, you will notice eq2's is ugly

    if you look at female in Requiem then look at female in Half-Life 2 you will notice Half-Life 2's is ugly

    if you look at Lineage 2 female then look at GuildWars1's you will notice the body look unrealistic opose to l2's.

     

     

     

    now judging facial.... you will notice western is stiff, robotic and goofy looking. look at LOTRO/Vanguard/Oblivion/TwoWorlds//Gothic3/Witcher/Half-Life2 for instant then look at Aion/Lineage2/Zera/Rappelz/MabinogiHeroes/BladeAndSoul.



    and why is western art outside of pc game is awesome? look at Marvel, Deathmate, WildCats, Glory, DarkChylde, HeavyMetal, PrinceOfPersiaNextGen, GoldenAxeBeastRider ect...

    why is western art in pc games is not pretty?

     

     



     

  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member EpicPosts: 4,662
    Originally posted by UpskirtPower


    if you look at Aion female then look at Hellgate, you will notice hellgate's look short and fat.
    if you look at Zera female then look at Oblivion(non-mod), you will notice ugliness Oblivion women look
    if you look at Dark Elf Female in Lineage2 then look at Dark Elf Female in EverQuest2, you will notice eq2's is ugly
    if you look at female in Requiem then look at female in Half-Life 2 you will notice Half-Life 2's is ugly
    if you look at Lineage 2 female then look at GuildWars's you will notice the body look unrealistic opose to l2's.
     
     
     
    now judging facial.... you will notice western is stiff, robotic and goofy looking. look at LOTRO/Vanguard/Oblivion/TwoWorlds//Gothic3/Witcher/Half-Life2 for instant then look at Aion/Lineage2/Zera/Rappelz/MabinogiHeroes/BladeAndSoul.


    and why is western art outside of pc game is awesome? look at Marvel, Deathmate, WildCats, Glory, DarkChylde, HeavyMetal ect...
    why is western art in pc games is not pretty?

    In my opinion it's because they prefer to not risk much on new ideas and tend to do the same stuff with better graphics.

    Note this is my opinion even if it may be false.


  • VespersVespers Member Posts: 246

    Asian characters generally tend to favor the sleek, smooth, and exotic features whereas the Western characters generally tend to favor more realistic features.
    Also, it seems that Asian game companies tend to focus more on the game graphics instead of game content whereas Western game companies tend to focus more on actual game content rather than making things overly pretty.

  • UpskirtPowerUpskirtPower Member Posts: 230
    Originally posted by Vespers


    Asian characters generally tend to favor the sleek, smooth, and exotic features whereas the Western characters generally tend to favor more realistic features.

    Also, it seems that Asian game companies tend to focus more on the game graphics instead of game content whereas Western game companies tend to focus more on actual game content rather than making things overly pretty.

     

    i say asian is more realistic. western is no way called realistic. western is stiff, robotic and goofy.

    look closely at the facial of Oblivion.... you will see a robot! or andruid! even an older game Lineage 2 dont look robotic.

     

     

    heres my thought western focus on techinical graphic, background and enviorment while eastern specialize on character model.

    ill go for character first than enviorment graphic. Lineage 2 is like 2003? 2004? and look at the character model.... shape is relaistic and armor is so shiny... compare to character model in 2007 Vanguard.

  • FortencFortenc Member Posts: 427
    Originally posted by Vespers


    Asian characters generally tend to favor the sleek, smooth, and exotic features whereas the Western characters generally tend to favor more realistic features.

    Also, it seems that Asian game companies tend to focus more on the game graphics instead of game content whereas Western game companies tend to focus more on actual game content rather than making things overly pretty.

     

    I think that this is the closest to the truth.  Developers in the east concentrate on creating a style and a flow to the graphics and make this a top priority.  Western developers tend to, though not always, mimic gritty historical realism or at least move closer to realism.  Of course there are exceptions, and WoW is one of those.  Seemed to work well for them, breaking out of the conventional visual mode and all.. helps open up the game to users with bad graphics, too.

     

    Strangely enough though, random fact of the day when it comes to that, Aion runs more smoothly than WoW on bad computers.. weird.

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  • MardyMardy Member Posts: 2,213
    Originally posted by UpskirtPower


    why is asian developer make much prettier character in pc games opose to western developer?
     


     

    It's anime style, which is not exactly the style many people here prefer.  It's not that one is prettier than the other, it's the difference in artistic style.  Asian developers cater to asians, while western developers cater to the audience here.

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  • FortencFortenc Member Posts: 427
    Originally posted by UpskirtPower

    Originally posted by Vespers


    Asian characters generally tend to favor the sleek, smooth, and exotic features whereas the Western characters generally tend to favor more realistic features.

    Also, it seems that Asian game companies tend to focus more on the game graphics instead of game content whereas Western game companies tend to focus more on actual game content rather than making things overly pretty.

     

    i say asian is more realistic. western is no way called realistic. western is stiff, robotic and goofy.

    look closely at the facial of Oblivion.... you will see a robot! or andruid! even an older game Lineage 2 dont look robotic.

     

    That's called the Uncanny Valley and is caused by trying to be too realistic.  It makes the eye and brain register things as being ugly and, truth be told it is ugly because it's nigh-impossible to get close to reality without looking weird.  Either it is reality or something is wrong with it.

     

    But yeah, Oblivion had ugly faces, heheh.

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  • Methos12Methos12 Member UncommonPosts: 1,244

    Not neccesarily, it's just that, for example, ideal males tend to be more androgynous in the eastern societies, it's their ideal form which they all apparently strive to. Don't ask me why, don't ask me how because I personally don't get it... not saying that all guys should be "manly men" with beards and lumberjack as their chosen profession, but I'd like it if they looked more like... you know, gender defined men. As for females, it's once again this whole submissive and "porcelain doll-ish" wife ideal they have, at least if you ask me.

     

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  • SalvatorisSalvatoris Member Posts: 1,360

    I suppose if your game can't hold it's own based on features of gameplay, you have to rely more on selling sex appeal to pervy teens... with names like "upskirtpower".  

     

    We all know the women in Oblivion are horse faced, but you are just choosing the worst Western examples and comparing them to the most attractive characters in Asian games.  I stay away from assign games specifically because i don't like the art style.  A bunch of mostly nude female warriors with the faces of children.... but I guess we all have different tastes.

  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member EpicPosts: 4,662

    Personal tastes on "manly men" I always try to make a male character when playing a game but I hate it when it's bulky, I prefer slim to normal body size.


  • AphexAphex Member Posts: 194
    Originally posted by Fortenc

    Originally posted by UpskirtPower

    Originally posted by Vespers


    Asian characters generally tend to favor the sleek, smooth, and exotic features whereas the Western characters generally tend to favor more realistic features.

    Also, it seems that Asian game companies tend to focus more on the game graphics instead of game content whereas Western game companies tend to focus more on actual game content rather than making things overly pretty.

     

    i say asian is more realistic. western is no way called realistic. western is stiff, robotic and goofy.

    look closely at the facial of Oblivion.... you will see a robot! or andruid! even an older game Lineage 2 dont look robotic.

     

    That's called the Uncanny Valley and is caused by trying to be too realistic.  It makes the eye and brain register things as being ugly and, truth be told it is ugly because it's nigh-impossible to get close to reality without looking weird.  Either it is reality or something is wrong with it.

     

    But yeah, Oblivion had ugly faces, heheh.



      No, most of the games he mentions has bad looking characters, especially Oblivion and Vanguard. Part of the reason is art (Vanguards art is bad in general) but the main reason is probably customizability. The asian games that I've seen generally have a very low amount of customization, while the Western games let you customize fine details in the face. The second thing is simply harder to do.

    The only game that you mentioned that doesn't allow this customization is Half-life 2 and that has some of the best looking characters I've seen. Far better then the asian MMO's you mention.

  • UpskirtPowerUpskirtPower Member Posts: 230
    Originally posted by Mardy

    Originally posted by UpskirtPower


    why is asian developer make much prettier character in pc games opose to western developer?
     


     

    It's anime style, which is not exactly the style many people here prefer.  It's not that one is prettier than the other, it's the difference in artistic style.  Asian developers cater to asians, while western developers cater to the audience here.

     

    western have other option than goofy robotic.  why not use the style of their comics? or TV cartoon shows? or fantasy art museum gallery?

    Prince of Persia the next gen is perfect. why not do like that? it dont look goofy nor robotic. or Unreal Tournament... characters in UT are awesome and totally not goofy robotic.

     

     

     

  • MardyMardy Member Posts: 2,213
    Originally posted by UpskirtPower 
    western have other option than goofy robotic.  why not use the style of their comics? or TV cartoon shows? or fantasy art museum gallery?
    Prince of Persia the next gen is perfect. why not do like that? it dont look goofy nor robotic. or Unreal Tournament... characters in UT are awesome and totally not goofy robotic.
     
     
     

     

    I wouldn't call WoW and WAR's characters "goofy robotic".  Which games are you comparing to and complaining about anyway?

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  • LocklainLocklain Member Posts: 2,154

    As some have already mentioned, sex sells.  Beauty and perfection has always been seen in youth for both male and female.  That, however, is not to say that people can't be attractive with age.  As for those looking for realism in games, do take into account that 65% of Americans are overweight and the average dress size is inching closer, if not already, a size 14.

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  • SalvatorisSalvatoris Member Posts: 1,360
    Originally posted by UpskirtPower

    Originally posted by Mardy

    Originally posted by UpskirtPower


    why is asian developer make much prettier character in pc games opose to western developer?
     


     

    It's anime style, which is not exactly the style many people here prefer.  It's not that one is prettier than the other, it's the difference in artistic style.  Asian developers cater to asians, while western developers cater to the audience here.

     

    western have other option than goofy robotic.  why not use the style of their comics? or TV cartoon shows? or fantasy art museum gallery?

    Prince of Persia the next gen is perfect. why not do like that? it dont look goofy nor robotic. or Unreal Tournament... characters in UT are awesome and totally not goofy robotic.

     

     

     



     

    I really don't find the female characters to be ugly in most of the AAA western MMOS.  You are having to look outside the MMO genre for most of your examples.  Vanguard lets you make some pretty ugly characters, but you can also make them attractive.  I think the female characters in WAR and AOC both look pretty good.  I certainly prefer them to the ones in lineage 2 or Guild Wars.  The female characters in Aion look pretty decent, but the male characters all look a little soft and androgynous to me... some of them are downright feminine.  The thing that I always find to be odd is that the characters in Asian games rarely look Asian. 

  • UpskirtPowerUpskirtPower Member Posts: 230

    i dont think its about the looks of youth and age have to do with it but i admit most asian mmo have younger looking characters than western mmo.

    but if eastern make an older character it will still look prettier than older character in western.

     

     

  • LtJohnnyRicoLtJohnnyRico Member Posts: 214
    Originally posted by UpskirtPower


    i dont think its about the looks of youth and age have to do with it but i admit most asian mmo have younger looking characters than western mmo.
    but if eastern make an older character it will still look prettier than older character in western.
     
     

     

    You are one of those guys who collects female anime figures, aren't you?

  • a_namea_name Member Posts: 249

    Pretty must be in the eye of the beholder. I think the stubby dwarves can be pretty in some games. Their big boobs match their big hips.

    Lots of asian games look like children to me. No wrinkles, no scars, teenage body with a rack of someone with implants and the proportions of leg are way too long - the women are quite comic book in proportion. The asian ones seem to have tiny mouths, no hips but big on top which doesn't happen normally. When I look at games like aion I think geisha.  Some of the worst are the anime like big eyes - simply can't relate at all to those.

    When my brother was in Japan he was sending pics all the time of wacky stuff - they are into bright colors and even sell panties in vending machines - it's no surprise that their women in games are unrealistic - and what you might call pretty if 14 yr olds are your style. Agree with someone else mentioning the androgenous look of the males in those games too - pretty boys that may be girls. That's ok but it's just not the style of lots of north american men - they are rougher and more cowboy like in their activities - they would be more likely to ride a horse than sew a pretty saddle and dye its mane.

    Look, believing that someone fights in a flowing white dress and perfect makeup and has no scars or bumps/bruises is just ridiculous - asian mmos just try to emphasize the fantasy in this way to me. When I play a game like lotro with muted colors and fat characters its more realism than those offer - asian mmos are TRUE high fantasy in their color and glow.

    It's about the style you like, while I find some asian mmos pretty - they still look like children or teenagers in lots of ways and I don't want to play a character that looks 14 but I'm supposed to believe that they are the "world's hope" and that they are grand adventurers with enough wisdom to combat the baddie.

     

  • UpskirtPowerUpskirtPower Member Posts: 230
    Originally posted by Salvatoris

    Originally posted by UpskirtPower

    Originally posted by Mardy

    Originally posted by UpskirtPower


    why is asian developer make much prettier character in pc games opose to western developer?
     


     

    It's anime style, which is not exactly the style many people here prefer.  It's not that one is prettier than the other, it's the difference in artistic style.  Asian developers cater to asians, while western developers cater to the audience here.

     

    western have other option than goofy robotic.  why not use the style of their comics? or TV cartoon shows? or fantasy art museum gallery?

    Prince of Persia the next gen is perfect. why not do like that? it dont look goofy nor robotic. or Unreal Tournament... characters in UT are awesome and totally not goofy robotic.

     

     

     



     

    I really don't find the female characters to be ugly in most of the AAA western MMOS.  You are having to look outside the MMO genre for most of your examples.  Vanguard lets you make some pretty ugly characters, but you can also make them attractive.  I think the female characters in WAR and AOC both look pretty good.  I certainly prefer them to the ones in lineage 2 or Guild Wars.  The female characters in Aion look pretty decent, but the male characters all look a little soft and androgynous to me... some of them are downright feminine.  The thing that I always find to be odd is that the characters in Asian games rarely look Asian. 

     

    WAR and WoW female characters was ok... i mean pretty but their graphic is off and away from graphic like eq2,l2,aion,halflife, vanguard, oblivion ect... thats why i didnt mention it.

    age of conan female was ok and yes indeed ok and the model are realistic.

     

    most asian games is western theme thats why they dont look asian. ff11-ff14 is western theme knight and castle so no asian race there.

     

     

     

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  • cukimungacukimunga Member UncommonPosts: 2,258
    Originally posted by Fortenc

    Originally posted by UpskirtPower

    Originally posted by Vespers


    Asian characters generally tend to favor the sleek, smooth, and exotic features whereas the Western characters generally tend to favor more realistic features.

    Also, it seems that Asian game companies tend to focus more on the game graphics instead of game content whereas Western game companies tend to focus more on actual game content rather than making things overly pretty.

     

    i say asian is more realistic. western is no way called realistic. western is stiff, robotic and goofy.

    look closely at the facial of Oblivion.... you will see a robot! or andruid! even an older game Lineage 2 dont look robotic.

     

    That's called the Uncanny Valley and is caused by trying to be too realistic.  It makes the eye and brain register things as being ugly and, truth be told it is ugly because it's nigh-impossible to get close to reality without looking weird.  Either it is reality or something is wrong with it.

     

    But yeah, Oblivion had ugly faces, heheh.

    Yeah I remember seeing something like that on discovery channel or something like that. But that reminds me I was playing Mass Effect the other day and most of the characters look amazing except for that black captain guy he looks like an android its so weird.

  • grandpagamergrandpagamer Member Posts: 2,221

    My thought is its because asian women keep their youthtful appearance longer than western women. That and the fact that asian women arnt threatened by hot looking pixels or perhaps that the asian game devs dont care if they feel threatened or not.

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