Not NCsoft but NC West has the issues. Understand that NC West is having a lot of issues right now with their massive launch, probably an unstable company in my opinion. On the other hand, NCsoft is doing well.
Maybe i'm just smart or anyone else who believes that rant means anything is just dumb... Either way that rant did not even effect me other then make me say wow... in a world filled with typo's and imperfection some tool admin tries to nit pick for what purpose? I mean I guess if you cant use a games performance or gameplay as a tool to discredit it... lets pick on the fact the devs use twitter... I use myspace and facebook... I even put announcements on there as opposed to calling people to tell them every event in my life... One thing I can tell about that is if a company posts information on their website. It's a lot less often then a personal site with tweets at the devs disposal. Get with the new age... get over it and OMG... he put the wrong time... Oh and I dont know which server will be RP!!!!!!! Oh wait.. there is no RP server, just an unofficial one. I believe the devs said "send us details on events and such and we will be glad to oblige or help". Something to that extent then again how would the admin of gaming site/portal know anything like that.
/fail
"Sometimes people say stuff they don''t mean, but more often then that they don''t say things they do mean"
This just goes to show you all the mistakes NCSoft has made in the last week or so . . . and it has nothing to do with the game client! aion.24-hrgaming.net/index.php
All i have to say is am glad you have never ever made a mistake in your life GJ !!! Atleast NC has fixed most of them fast. I am still going to play the game because the game works and our guild had a server picked way before the "Offical" list came out. Now the Dev. team posting updates on facebook and twitter before the site i'll give you that one
Played Aoc/DDO/FFXI/WAR / LoTRo / CO / Aion Playing Rift
Waiting for FFXIV to be the game it should. so sad =(
Now the Dev. team posting updates on facebook and twitter before the site i'll give you that one
It's entirely possible that the updates were submitted to all outlets at the same time but since the web probably has to go through another department or two, it is delayed. But, by all means, rip into them for making sure they have multiple avenues to communicate with their playerbase in case one or more have delays or problems. It's an interesting logic you have there.
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Now the Dev. team posting updates on facebook and twitter before the site i'll give you that one
It's entirely possible that the updates were submitted to all outlets at the same time but since the web probably has to go through another department or two, it is delayed. But, by all means, rip into them for making sure they have multiple avenues to communicate with their playerbase in case one or more have delays or problems. It's an interesting logic you have there.
Actually, these mental giants are sending these messages to each OTHER for the most part. If you're following them on Twitter, you can see the posts. If not, you're in the dark.
Every time servers went down I could check on Twitter how the maintenance was going, I don't remember seeing many games with such depth of information for the player. I won't exactly say it is bad, because otherwise I doubt they would be able to provide information as fast as on Twitter through a forum or news post where it isn't as quick as a personal twitter page.
Anyway you could've just made it clear that your topic was meant to advertise your fansite.
This seems to be a trend now-a-days, one I dislike greatly but that could be fixed with something as simple as adding an automated tweet feed from the official twitter pages to the front page of the main news site. Why no one has done it yet, I dunno. I don't use twitter myself and find it annoying checking personal twitter pages from multiple devs to find out wtf is going on with a game I'm looking at.
From what i saw so far, NC adressed problems quite contemporary in general and the flow of information was quite steady.
On the other hand, I played through some gamebreakers which remained unfixed for month by Blizzard or SOE. Some major crap wasn't even adressed in the first patch after and i had to wait some more month. There are TONS of examples.
At least NCSoft is working on loginproblems and lag while Blizzard often insisted on the player's providers being the reason for the bad connections that made the game unplayable at times and for weeks.
Or other companies which do not even talk to their playerbase to let them know that they have recognised a problem at all.
Some things weren't all straight with the NA/EU beta, so what? Talking about which company is clueless or totally muzzled, many others come to my mind way before i'd think of NCSoft.
I'm just happy I don't frequent the OP's fansite. It appears thier forum administrators and trolls are one in the same.
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
Posting on twitter and facebook before the official site, contrary to popular belief, is actualy a very good idea. Infact it can be called revolutionary. I can't think of any other companies that had the gall to do this. NCSoft isn't dumb or retarded for trying a new idea...they're being innovators. I think people are just bewildered that a new idea is being experimented with in this age of templates and "playing it safe". They used twitter and facebook because they're popular. Weither or not 2 or 3 people in this forum hate the sites is irrelevant...there are still millions of loyal users to the sites and they get updates about the game on their profile(if their subscribed- not sure how twitter works though). They wanted to reach a broader audience and they wanted the people to get the info fast. Twitter and face book can be fast and there are many people that use the sites frequently. Some poeple are just very social and would go to facebook.com before ever considering visiting aiononline.com...It's a matter of keeping up with the times. It's like when emails became the dominant form of communication over regular mail and again when cell phones(and smart phones) took over and put emails in second place.
This is just a new idea...someone trying to push the envelope a bit(not alot). Now i can admit that it is a bit farfetched to update twitter before the "Official" site...but how often do you ping aiononline.com? i ping about once or twice a week maybe...not often though. That and you can get RSS feeds from facebook and twitter. So you can have news fed to you on your desktop(using windows sidebar if you have vista) you can get text messages about new things on facebook...It's an extremely networked world we live in now. Sure NC could've made an RSS feed for their site but are you realy going to sub a new feed and have it giving you news over your twitter(if you use twitter that much)?
Posting on twitter and facebook before the official site, contrary to popular belief, is actualy a very good idea. Infact it can be called revolutionary. I can't think of any other companies that had the gall to do this. NCSoft isn't dumb or retarded for trying a new idea...they're being innovators. I think people are just bewildered that a new idea is being experimented with in this age of templates and "playing it safe". They used twitter and facebook because they're popular. Weither or not 2 or 3 people in this forum hate the sites is irrelevant...there are still millions of loyal users to the sites and they get updates about the game on their profile(if their subscribed- not sure how twitter works though). They wanted to reach a broader audience and they wanted the people to get the info fast. Twitter and face book can be fast and there are many people that use the sites frequently. Some poeple are just very social and would go to facebook.com before ever considering visiting aiononline.com...It's a matter of keeping up with the times. It's like when emails became the dominant form of communication over regular mail and again when cell phones(and smart phones) took over and put emails in second place. This is just a new idea...someone trying to push the envelope a bit(not alot). Now i can admit that it is a bit farfetched to update twitter before the "Official" site...but how often do you ping aiononline.com? i ping about once or twice a week maybe...not often though. That and you can get RSS feeds from facebook and twitter. So you can have news fed to you on your desktop(using windows sidebar if you have vista) you can get text messages about new things on facebook...It's an extremely networked world we live in now. Sure NC could've made an RSS feed for their site but are you realy going to sub a new feed and have it giving you news over your twitter(if you use twitter that much)?
Theres a few MMO's do use it with little tweets going out on things before the bif long formal official announcements hit the main pages.
As soon as the tweet goes it builds anticipation of that announcement and you see massive upsurges in hits on your main site compared to if you simply just put the official up. You also see small game spikes with people deciding to jump in game whilst they wait on these announcement's if in a live environment obviously Aion is a little different at this time.
Its nothing more than hey theres new news over there and is a great redirection tool as is facebook and all of the social networking sites.
OP site are idiotic MMO'rs since the dawn of the genre have screamed about 1 thing "lack of communication" when MMO companies look to provide more communication be it twitter FB myspace or whatever theyget shot down for it.
I haven't really been checking the site often lately but wow, twitter before the official website?
Not cool NC.
Actually, the twitter idea was brilliant, since it was a beta event and the beta boards would have huge amounts of traffic if something happened to the servers bringing down the beta boards and the game. It was simple to click the link and see a blow by blow of what was happening..
The article linked to is sort of weird. He/she/it lists the problems they have and then say, "oh, well they were fixed/updated the next day."
First it complains about the launch server announcement, then admits it was fixed the next day. Clueless?
Then it complains about the head start and pre-selection times being corrected days before there is any head start or pre-selection. Only one person clueless on this one and its not NcSoft.
It complains about some server survey and Oceanic and RP servers. There will be no official RP servers. There will initially be no Oceanic servers until they see what kind of ping the Oceanic players are getting. I'm not sure how NcSoft can help you if you aren't bright enough to understand these two facts. Again, it doesn't make them clueless, just the poster.
It complains about lack of information about Siege times. Really? That sounds more like just general bitchin' and nothing very important. I'm afraid the poster's ADD got the better of itself.
Good rant as rants go. Pretty much equal amounts of stupidity and incoherence.
Thank you for showing us that NC west hires humans.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
To error is human. Thank you for showing us that NC west hires humans.
Well after looking at the latest vidcast, they seem to be dysfunctional humans. But, we should be happy they had an early release date for us. September is much better than November in my opinion.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
Im surprised the stock market gurus that frequent these boards arent giving there detailed analysis of NCSoft yet. They were giving daily updates of Funcoms recently
NCSoft West is a regional office for NCSoft. One of the problems has been that they have almost no autonomy at all. The recent examples in the off-site thread are simple mistakes that can become harder to quickly correct due to internal bureaucracy.
listen ,this has nothing to do with ncwest,ncsoft in korea decided to lunch aion in other place
not ncwest,ncwest is like us in the dark till ncsoft release the info
has for the small diff its just a time zone issue ,you do know that ncsoft isnt on the same time zone right
and you do know the maker of the actual game is in korea too
i dont like this game ,but men it has nothing to do with the small stuff you bring out
gw was lunched in thae same area of the world as aion will
true its not exactly arenanet ,but i bet they re just a phone call away
so that group dont sweat it ,they can deliver,the big prob is always ncsoft
i dont hate korean,but the fact is we always had similar issue in lineage 2
and that come out of korea ,its not because korea is a bad team but men the translator trying to convey any message from korean to anglish freaking suck .thats why all the small diff,usa dont use same stuff korea use
kora is probabbly like canada (we use metric system ,usa use the old system
etc those difference all added up brings the problem you see here
you never see those of=r barelly in gw because everybody speak the same language
but aion project,have some korean ,english and probably lot of other language included
i speak english and french ,no i try to learn mandarin ,men you wouldnt beieve how hard it is
what you found is nothing just very small detail that wont make a diff. on you game play at lunch
i would be way more wary of gameguard or another level3 or the other one block liker what happened on the bad week-end of ob
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Not NCsoft but NC West has the issues. Understand that NC West is having a lot of issues right now with their massive launch, probably an unstable company in my opinion. On the other hand, NCsoft is doing well.
I haven't really been checking the site often lately but wow, twitter before the official website?
Not cool NC.
Maybe i'm just smart or anyone else who believes that rant means anything is just dumb... Either way that rant did not even effect me other then make me say wow... in a world filled with typo's and imperfection some tool admin tries to nit pick for what purpose? I mean I guess if you cant use a games performance or gameplay as a tool to discredit it... lets pick on the fact the devs use twitter... I use myspace and facebook... I even put announcements on there as opposed to calling people to tell them every event in my life... One thing I can tell about that is if a company posts information on their website. It's a lot less often then a personal site with tweets at the devs disposal. Get with the new age... get over it and OMG... he put the wrong time... Oh and I dont know which server will be RP!!!!!!! Oh wait.. there is no RP server, just an unofficial one. I believe the devs said "send us details on events and such and we will be glad to oblige or help". Something to that extent then again how would the admin of gaming site/portal know anything like that.
/fail
"Sometimes people say stuff they don''t mean, but more often then that they don''t say things they do mean"
All i have to say is am glad you have never ever made a mistake in your life GJ !!! Atleast NC has fixed most of them fast. I am still going to play the game because the game works and our guild had a server picked way before the "Offical" list came out. Now the Dev. team posting updates on facebook and twitter before the site i'll give you that one
Played Aoc/DDO/FFXI/WAR / LoTRo / CO / Aion
Playing Rift
Waiting for FFXIV to be the game it should. so sad =(
It's entirely possible that the updates were submitted to all outlets at the same time but since the web probably has to go through another department or two, it is delayed. But, by all means, rip into them for making sure they have multiple avenues to communicate with their playerbase in case one or more have delays or problems. It's an interesting logic you have there.
- RPG Quiz - can you get all 25 right?
- FPS Quiz - how well do you know your shooters?
It's entirely possible that the updates were submitted to all outlets at the same time but since the web probably has to go through another department or two, it is delayed. But, by all means, rip into them for making sure they have multiple avenues to communicate with their playerbase in case one or more have delays or problems. It's an interesting logic you have there.
Actually, these mental giants are sending these messages to each OTHER for the most part. If you're following them on Twitter, you can see the posts. If not, you're in the dark.
http://aion.24-hrgaming.net
Why can we read it then? It works, doesn't it?
Every time servers went down I could check on Twitter how the maintenance was going, I don't remember seeing many games with such depth of information for the player. I won't exactly say it is bad, because otherwise I doubt they would be able to provide information as fast as on Twitter through a forum or news post where it isn't as quick as a personal twitter page.
Anyway you could've just made it clear that your topic was meant to advertise your fansite.
This seems to be a trend now-a-days, one I dislike greatly but that could be fixed with something as simple as adding an automated tweet feed from the official twitter pages to the front page of the main news site. Why no one has done it yet, I dunno. I don't use twitter myself and find it annoying checking personal twitter pages from multiple devs to find out wtf is going on with a game I'm looking at.
From what i saw so far, NC adressed problems quite contemporary in general and the flow of information was quite steady.
On the other hand, I played through some gamebreakers which remained unfixed for month by Blizzard or SOE. Some major crap wasn't even adressed in the first patch after and i had to wait some more month. There are TONS of examples.
At least NCSoft is working on loginproblems and lag while Blizzard often insisted on the player's providers being the reason for the bad connections that made the game unplayable at times and for weeks.
Or other companies which do not even talk to their playerbase to let them know that they have recognised a problem at all.
Some things weren't all straight with the NA/EU beta, so what? Talking about which company is clueless or totally muzzled, many others come to my mind way before i'd think of NCSoft.
My reply to that guy and the op would be CRY MORE NOOB! That's if I was to direct it at them in anger, but for now Ill just say, meh, who cares? xD
I'm just happy I don't frequent the OP's fansite. It appears thier forum administrators and trolls are one in the same.
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
Posting on twitter and facebook before the official site, contrary to popular belief, is actualy a very good idea. Infact it can be called revolutionary. I can't think of any other companies that had the gall to do this. NCSoft isn't dumb or retarded for trying a new idea...they're being innovators. I think people are just bewildered that a new idea is being experimented with in this age of templates and "playing it safe". They used twitter and facebook because they're popular. Weither or not 2 or 3 people in this forum hate the sites is irrelevant...there are still millions of loyal users to the sites and they get updates about the game on their profile(if their subscribed- not sure how twitter works though). They wanted to reach a broader audience and they wanted the people to get the info fast. Twitter and face book can be fast and there are many people that use the sites frequently. Some poeple are just very social and would go to facebook.com before ever considering visiting aiononline.com...It's a matter of keeping up with the times. It's like when emails became the dominant form of communication over regular mail and again when cell phones(and smart phones) took over and put emails in second place.
This is just a new idea...someone trying to push the envelope a bit(not alot). Now i can admit that it is a bit farfetched to update twitter before the "Official" site...but how often do you ping aiononline.com? i ping about once or twice a week maybe...not often though. That and you can get RSS feeds from facebook and twitter. So you can have news fed to you on your desktop(using windows sidebar if you have vista) you can get text messages about new things on facebook...It's an extremely networked world we live in now. Sure NC could've made an RSS feed for their site but are you realy going to sub a new feed and have it giving you news over your twitter(if you use twitter that much)?
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Theres a few MMO's do use it with little tweets going out on things before the bif long formal official announcements hit the main pages.
As soon as the tweet goes it builds anticipation of that announcement and you see massive upsurges in hits on your main site compared to if you simply just put the official up. You also see small game spikes with people deciding to jump in game whilst they wait on these announcement's if in a live environment obviously Aion is a little different at this time.
Its nothing more than hey theres new news over there and is a great redirection tool as is facebook and all of the social networking sites.
OP site are idiotic MMO'rs since the dawn of the genre have screamed about 1 thing "lack of communication" when MMO companies look to provide more communication be it twitter FB myspace or whatever theyget shot down for it.
Actually, the twitter idea was brilliant, since it was a beta event and the beta boards would have huge amounts of traffic if something happened to the servers bringing down the beta boards and the game. It was simple to click the link and see a blow by blow of what was happening..
The article linked to is sort of weird. He/she/it lists the problems they have and then say, "oh, well they were fixed/updated the next day."
First it complains about the launch server announcement, then admits it was fixed the next day. Clueless?
Then it complains about the head start and pre-selection times being corrected days before there is any head start or pre-selection. Only one person clueless on this one and its not NcSoft.
It complains about some server survey and Oceanic and RP servers. There will be no official RP servers. There will initially be no Oceanic servers until they see what kind of ping the Oceanic players are getting. I'm not sure how NcSoft can help you if you aren't bright enough to understand these two facts. Again, it doesn't make them clueless, just the poster.
It complains about lack of information about Siege times. Really? That sounds more like just general bitchin' and nothing very important. I'm afraid the poster's ADD got the better of itself.
Good rant as rants go. Pretty much equal amounts of stupidity and incoherence.
To error is human.
Thank you for showing us that NC west hires humans.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
Well after looking at the latest vidcast, they seem to be dysfunctional humans. But, we should be happy they had an early release date for us. September is much better than November in my opinion.
It's "to err is Human", BTW.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
It's "to err is Human", BTW.
Are you MMO_REVIEWER by any chance?
Same smell in the end.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
Are you MMO_REVIEWER by any chance?
No. Whoever that is.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
Are you MMO_REVIEWER by any chance?
No. Whoever that is.
Oh lol, I do know Synrg023, lol.
Im surprised the stock market gurus that frequent these boards arent giving there detailed analysis of NCSoft yet. They were giving daily updates of Funcoms recently
NCSoft West is a regional office for NCSoft. One of the problems has been that they have almost no autonomy at all. The recent examples in the off-site thread are simple mistakes that can become harder to quickly correct due to internal bureaucracy.
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listen ,this has nothing to do with ncwest,ncsoft in korea decided to lunch aion in other place
not ncwest,ncwest is like us in the dark till ncsoft release the info
has for the small diff its just a time zone issue ,you do know that ncsoft isnt on the same time zone right
and you do know the maker of the actual game is in korea too
i dont like this game ,but men it has nothing to do with the small stuff you bring out
gw was lunched in thae same area of the world as aion will
true its not exactly arenanet ,but i bet they re just a phone call away
so that group dont sweat it ,they can deliver,the big prob is always ncsoft
i dont hate korean,but the fact is we always had similar issue in lineage 2
and that come out of korea ,its not because korea is a bad team but men the translator trying to convey any message from korean to anglish freaking suck .thats why all the small diff,usa dont use same stuff korea use
kora is probabbly like canada (we use metric system ,usa use the old system
etc those difference all added up brings the problem you see here
you never see those of=r barelly in gw because everybody speak the same language
but aion project,have some korean ,english and probably lot of other language included
i speak english and french ,no i try to learn mandarin ,men you wouldnt beieve how hard it is
what you found is nothing just very small detail that wont make a diff. on you game play at lunch
i would be way more wary of gameguard or another level3 or the other one block liker what happened on the bad week-end of ob
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I'll for surely avoid that site in the future.
Sheesh... if they're that upset at NCSoft West... they should FIND ANOTHER GAME.
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Currently: AION, an MMO Beta under NDA
Played: WAR, LOTRO, Hellgate: London, CoX, GW, SotNW, DAOC, EQ2, SWG, WoW, AO, Horizons, Second Life, There, TSO
Beta'd: There, Second Life, EQ2, DAOC:LotM, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, Gods and Heroes, Hellgate: London, Requiem:Bloodymare, AoC, WAR, DDO, Fallen Earth