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Dont Understand the hype???

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  • Alchem1stAlchem1st Member UncommonPosts: 16
    Originally posted by arenasb


    They need to get rid of the hype meter so we don't get these retarded threads.

     people are bias to what games thei've played in the past, if they did not like the original they wont like a sequal and therefor will say nothing good about it, if they liked it they will endorse it and make it look amazing with little or no info. just gtfo and wait for it to come out, stupid hype threads are a waste of space.

  • LydonLydon Member UncommonPosts: 2,938

    I, for one, am hyped about the "quest" system (Events) and the persistence. Crafting as well. I trust trading will be made a whole lot easier, too. Add to that the graphical upgrades, new forms of PvP, races, jumping, swimming, and climbing and there's so much to look forward to.

  • ThomasN7ThomasN7 87.18.7.148Member CommonPosts: 6,690

    What is not to understand ? Besides WoW, Guild Wars is one of the best selling franchises this decade. Guild Wars 2 will be a major improvement from the original.

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  • tro44_1tro44_1 Member Posts: 1,819
    Originally posted by sazabi


    pve content lacking?
    it had great missions. even tho storyline was a little lame, it offered some great challenges that were interesting to play.
    most of the dungeons/instances in other games cant do the same...
    it also had random standart quests that every mmo have. there were plenty of them...
    and if you are into repeatable stuff you could farm etc.
    what else do you really need? what other mmos have that GW doesnt in pve? free exploration is the only thing i can think of.
     
    as for pvp its not really as bad as you say. while some stuff has some 'cheap potential' its only, because lets face it - majority of pvpers in every game cant really compete with even a slight imbalance which can be countered by another imbalanced thus in the end everything is balanced.
    good balanced teams have always found ways to overcome anything that is thrown at them.
    i know what im talking about, because some time ago i had a chance to play in top100 guild for some time and saw the game from the different perspective than most. your 'build of the week' isnt instant win as you make it look.
    however i dont think build wars is what the game is all about. its only 30% of it. strategy, tactics, builds etc... its great. i dont think any game has so much possibilities like GW. everything else is coordination between team members and skill.
     
    i have no doubt that GW2 will offer all what i said in this post... AND MORE. what does that mean? its goin to be succesful.
     



     

    Iav seen many Console RPGs with the features that GW had. Iam not hyped up by Anet.

  • tro44_1tro44_1 Member Posts: 1,819
    Originally posted by SaintViktor


    What is not to understand ? Besides WoW, Guild Wars is one of the best selling franchises this decade. Guild Wars 2 will be a major improvement from the original.



     

    Gw is Pay2FTP

    So once you buy it, its completly yours. Other P2P MMORPGs need constant development to keep players happy. GW and Anet doesnt need to do this, as you can see in the way GW was handled. Only major new things that would come, were X-pacs with new classes and stuff. And each of them functioned as its own game.

    IMHO if GW had a Monthly price on the Same Current Game, Nobody would play it except the hard core Fanboys, which all games have.

    GW1 with a Monthly fee is like paying to play Elder Scrolls 4 for the single player.

  • EthianEthian Member Posts: 1,216

    Theres some hype because GW1 was a great game....you thought so yourself otherwise you wouldnt have played for the time you did. As for content? GW1 has aton of pve content. I bought all the expansions and I still havent been through everything, let alone the hardmodes.

    Theres hype because GW1 is a great game for free each month. If I wasnt planning on playing Aion I'd probly be playing GW1 right now. Its a great game if  you can look past all the instancing and see it for what is it. GQ2 will be amazing, I'll no doubt about that. Its also run by anet and ncsoft, two of the best companies in the bussiness imo.

    "I play Tera for the gameplay"

  • djazzydjazzy Member Posts: 3,578
    Originally posted by tro44_1




     
    Iav seen many Console RPGs with the features that GW had. Iam not hyped up by Anet.



     

    There is not one single mmo out  that has a unique feature to it, what's your point?

  • SalvatorisSalvatoris Member Posts: 1,360
    Originally posted by arenasb

    Originally posted by tro44_1




     
    Iav seen many Console RPGs with the features that GW had. Iam not hyped up by Anet.



     

    There is not one single mmo out  that has a unique feature to it, what's your point?



     

    That is utter nonsense.  You must have played very few MMOs for you to believe that.  SWG was and still is packed with unique features, Ryzom has great a skill system I have never seen in another MMO.  Even lackluster games like WAR and AOC have features not found in any other MMO.  Just because WoW is complete everquest rip doesn't mean all games are.

  • djazzydjazzy Member Posts: 3,578
    Originally posted by Salvatoris

    Originally posted by arenasb

    Originally posted by tro44_1




     
    Iav seen many Console RPGs with the features that GW had. Iam not hyped up by Anet.



     

    There is not one single mmo out  that has a unique feature to it, what's your point?



     

    That is utter nonsense.  You must have played very few MMOs for you to believe that.  SWG was and still is packed with unique features, Ryzom has great a skill system I have never seen in another MMO.  Even lackluster games like WAR and AOC have features not found in any other MMO.  Just because WoW is complete everquest rip doesn't mean all games are.



     

    You missed the point. Tro44 was comparing gw to other games period, not just mmo. So I am stating the same thing. There is not one mmo that has a unique feature from any other video game.

  • AladyleynaAladyleyna Member Posts: 269

    Honestly, just because you don't like Guild Wars doesn't mean that others don't. Why is there hype? Because Arenanet has a good track record of creating games, and heck, there are those of us who actually had fun in Guild Wars. Hence, because of the company, and our past experiences in the game, as well as the new features that Guild Wars 2 is touted to have, it is quite understandable why the hype would be quite high. Not to mention, the kick-ass trailer is certainly doing it's bit too. Heck, I am extremely hyped for Guild Wars 2 as well.

    Main characters:
    Jinn Gone Quiet (Guild Wars)
    Princess Pudding (Guild Wars)

  • djazzydjazzy Member Posts: 3,578

    Well said.

    Hype meter is idiotic in my opinion. Even more idiotic are people complaining about a game being hyped atlhough I only see those complaints here. I haven't seen any other game get these complaints. I mean take Aion for example, that game is hyped to the moon and yet nobody complains about that hype. I'm not a fan of that game but yet I don't go in there ask why it's so hyped and what not so whatever.

  • ThomasN7ThomasN7 87.18.7.148Member CommonPosts: 6,690
    Originally posted by tro44_1

    Originally posted by SaintViktor


    What is not to understand ? Besides WoW, Guild Wars is one of the best selling franchises this decade. Guild Wars 2 will be a major improvement from the original.



     

    Gw is Pay2FTP

    So once you buy it, its completly yours. Other P2P MMORPGs need constant development to keep players happy. GW and Anet doesnt need to do this, as you can see in the way GW was handled. Only major new things that would come, were X-pacs with new classes and stuff. And each of them functioned as its own game.

    IMHO if GW had a Monthly price on the Same Current Game, Nobody would play it except the hard core Fanboys, which all games have.

    GW1 with a Monthly fee is like paying to play Elder Scrolls 4 for the single player.



     

    Well Guild Wars 2 will have no monthly fee so I'm guessing if Guild Wars 2 had a fee noone will play that either ?

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  • tro44_1tro44_1 Member Posts: 1,819
    Originally posted by SaintViktor

    Originally posted by tro44_1

    Originally posted by SaintViktor


    What is not to understand ? Besides WoW, Guild Wars is one of the best selling franchises this decade. Guild Wars 2 will be a major improvement from the original.



     

    Gw is Pay2FTP

    So once you buy it, its completly yours. Other P2P MMORPGs need constant development to keep players happy. GW and Anet doesnt need to do this, as you can see in the way GW was handled. Only major new things that would come, were X-pacs with new classes and stuff. And each of them functioned as its own game.

    IMHO if GW had a Monthly price on the Same Current Game, Nobody would play it except the hard core Fanboys, which all games have.

    GW1 with a Monthly fee is like paying to play Elder Scrolls 4 for the single player.



     

    Well Guild Wars 2 will have no monthly fee so I'm guessing if Guild Wars 2 had a fee noone will play that either ?

    Yup

  • KwintpodKwintpod Member Posts: 262
    Originally posted by tro44_1

    Originally posted by SaintViktor

    Originally posted by tro44_1

    Originally posted by SaintViktor


    What is not to understand ? Besides WoW, Guild Wars is one of the best selling franchises this decade. Guild Wars 2 will be a major improvement from the original.



     

    Gw is Pay2FTP

    So once you buy it, its completly yours. Other P2P MMORPGs need constant development to keep players happy. GW and Anet doesnt need to do this, as you can see in the way GW was handled. Only major new things that would come, were X-pacs with new classes and stuff. And each of them functioned as its own game.

    IMHO if GW had a Monthly price on the Same Current Game, Nobody would play it except the hard core Fanboys, which all games have.

    GW1 with a Monthly fee is like paying to play Elder Scrolls 4 for the single player.



     

    Well Guild Wars 2 will have no monthly fee so I'm guessing if Guild Wars 2 had a fee noone will play that either ?

    Yup

     

    But then again, with a montly fee there would be a ton more content and updates

  • LydeckLydeck Member Posts: 80

    People are loving GW2 because they loved GW1. Just because you like boring, grinding PvE in games doesn't mean everyone else does. I personally loved the PvE aspect of Guild Wars and it was by far my favorite part (the storyline and the atmosphere of the game).

    It just does the little things right. Like the winter Holiday event. I have yet to see a game have a better winter festivities than Wintersday. Love that.

  • majinantmajinant Member UncommonPosts: 418
    Originally posted by Kwintpod

    Originally posted by tro44_1

    Originally posted by SaintViktor

    Originally posted by tro44_1

    Originally posted by SaintViktor


    What is not to understand ? Besides WoW, Guild Wars is one of the best selling franchises this decade. Guild Wars 2 will be a major improvement from the original.



     

    Gw is Pay2FTP

    So once you buy it, its completly yours. Other P2P MMORPGs need constant development to keep players happy. GW and Anet doesnt need to do this, as you can see in the way GW was handled. Only major new things that would come, were X-pacs with new classes and stuff. And each of them functioned as its own game.

    IMHO if GW had a Monthly price on the Same Current Game, Nobody would play it except the hard core Fanboys, which all games have.

    GW1 with a Monthly fee is like paying to play Elder Scrolls 4 for the single player.



     

    Well Guild Wars 2 will have no monthly fee so I'm guessing if Guild Wars 2 had a fee noone will play that either ?

    Yup

     

    But then again, with a montly fee there would be a ton more content and updates

     Monthly fee =/= more content!



  • AladyleynaAladyleyna Member Posts: 269

    I mean take Aion for example, that game is hyped to the moon and yet nobody complains about that hype. I'm not a fan of that game but yet I don't go in there ask why it's so hyped and what not so whatever.

    Well, if it’s any consolation, there’s now a “complain about Aion hype” thread as well. At this point in time, there seems to a hype battle between Guild Wars 2, Aion and Star Wars Galaxies. Last I checked, Guild Wars 2 was at number one.

     

    Well Guild Wars 2 will have no monthly fee so I'm guessing if Guild Wars 2 had a fee noone will play that either ?

    I daresay that those of us who are so used to paying for a one time fee for Guild Wars would be rather annoyed if they changed that, so yes, I probably won’t be playing it… unless I can find time cards in my area.

     

    I personally loved the PvE aspect of Guild Wars and it was by far my favorite part (the storyline and the atmosphere of the game).

    Same here!

     

    It just does the little things right. Like the winter Holiday event. I have yet to see a game have a better winter festivities than Wintersday. Love that.

    Oh, and the Dragon Festival and the Talk like a Pirate day and the Canthan New Year… I found getting completely hammered with alcoholic drinks extremely fun.

     

    Main characters:
    Jinn Gone Quiet (Guild Wars)
    Princess Pudding (Guild Wars)

  • JacobinJacobin Member RarePosts: 1,009

    Can't understand the hype?

     

    GW did so many ground breaking things for the genre - no monthy fee, mission rather than grind based pve, actual competitive pvp since zerg/gear/level has little to no impact, total class build freedom due to skill system, limiting your skill bar to 8 skills forcing you to make careful decisions about how to play your class, and other things.

     

    GW2 improves on this by adding the race dynamic to the character build system, and adding persistant world areas which is really the only major complaint that people launch against GW1.

     

    For myself, GW was really the perfect online rpg in almost every way. I play the traditional style games like WoW, AoC, War and Aion and they all make me want to go back to GW because it removes all of the same annoying bs that these games keep spewing out over and over.

     

    As bleak as the genre has looked recently, GW2 looks like a game that fans of the first one can certainly count on to deliver, which is why the game is topping the hype charts despite the lack of actual gameplay info.

     

     

  • tro44_1tro44_1 Member Posts: 1,819
    Originally posted by Nihilist


    Can't understand the hype?
     
    GW did so many ground breaking things for the genre - no monthy fee, mission rather than grind based pve, actual competitive pvp since zerg/gear/level has little to no impact, total class build freedom due to skill system, limiting your skill bar to 8 skills forcing you to make careful decisions about how to play your class, and other things.
     
    GW2 improves on this by adding the race dynamic to the character build system, and adding persistant world areas which is really the only major complaint that people launch against GW1.
     
    For myself, GW was really the perfect online rpg in almost every way. I play the traditional style games like WoW, AoC, War and Aion and they all make me want to go back to GW because it removes all of the same annoying bs that these games keep spewing out over and over.
     
    As bleak as the genre has looked recently, GW2 looks like a game that fans of the first one can certainly count on to deliver, which is why the game is topping the hype charts despite the lack of actual gameplay info.
     
     

    Many people brought GW1 after all the hype of being a F2P MMORPG which it wasnt. And soon there after, quit, and went back to their other main MMORPG. For many, GW was more of a side game rather then a Main MMORPG.

     

    (Its F2P, so even if it sucked, why delete it? )

     

    This is the only logic that has kept Anet and GW in the system. If Gw had the same game, but with a monthly price, it would have floped.

  • djazzydjazzy Member Posts: 3,578

    you sure about that? I see a lot of assumptions there. Your post is just conjecture.

  • ReidenReiden Member Posts: 12

    Hype is a User Submitted rating from the players based on the details that have been made available.  As this is a sequal, you can also generate hype based on the assumption that they will improve upon the original.

    You apparently don't feel that the released details are not worth the "average" hype rating.  Thats fine, your entitled to your opinion, but to ask the question "why does it have the hype that it does" is plain stupid.  Your pretty much just saying that you don't understand the definition of hype.  Well since "Hype" is actually just slang for a junkie, let me provide you the alternative term as defined by the gaming community...

    Anticipation: "The act of looking forward; especially  : pleasurable experience"

    You can also apply a negative to the term, which I would assume here at mmorpg would be a game with a hype rating below 5.0 since you can't vote negative.

    GW2 has the "hype" it does because the majority of the players here that take the time to give hype, feel that the details currently available to the public, will result in a game they want to play.

     

    "Any good artist can draw a pretty picture. "

    Your absolutley right.  The difference is that Arena Net follows through with their pretty pictures.  Most MMO companies have a few good artists and a bunch of shit artists, and then somewhere between concept art and actual in-game visuals, they F it up and make it horrible looking or turn it into a cartoon.

    ArenaNet has proven that they can take a "Pretty picture" and transfer that to their game while retaining the beauty and detail.  That is why people can generate hype based on a video which displays primarily concept art, ignoring the fact that there is also quite a bit of in-game footage.

     

    On a side note, I would pay a monthly fee for GW, and would absolutely pay a monthly fee for GW2.  Would they lose alot of players, possibly, probably, but they would still be far more successful then most of the garbage thats being released.

  • AladyleynaAladyleyna Member Posts: 269

    Many people brought GW1 after all the hype of being a F2P MMORPG which it wasnt. And soon there after, quit, and went back to their other main MMORPG. For many, GW was more of a side game rather then a Main MMORPG.

    Funny thing is, if Guild Wars hadn't been free to play, I wouldn't have bothered to try it in the first place, especially since I'm not very fond of paying for a monthly fee in the first place. However, I liked it so much that it has since become my main MMORPG. And best of all, I don't have to keep paying a monthly fee for it. Yes, I have tried other games, but I ended up running back to Guild Wars with my tail between my legs. Kept missing it for some reason.

    So yes, that's why Guild Wars has been around for so long, and it still continues to be played; because people actually like it. Even if people buy the game and not play it because it doesn't suit them, it means that the game can still be supported for those of us who like it.

    Main characters:
    Jinn Gone Quiet (Guild Wars)
    Princess Pudding (Guild Wars)

  • BattleFelonBattleFelon Member UncommonPosts: 483

    As a GW 1 fan, I can say the main reason I'm excited to play GW 2 is to see how the game world has progressed after 250 years.  Which is basically the reason I may pick up WOW Cataclysm (oh look Stormwind is destroyed!  Or - Lion's Arch is under water now! Cool!) I'm also excited at getting a chance to play some of the NPC races like the Charr or Norn.

    Otherwise, I think people are excited because GW2 is promising to deliver a lot more of a traditional MMOG experience, like non-instanced quest zones, the ability to jump and travel underwater, higher levels than 20, and larger PVP battles. Believe it or not I know several players who wrote off GW 1 because you couldn't swim or jump.

    Once again, this is all conjecture, but ArenaNet so far has done a good job of  keeping the hype in check while delivering the goods at launch. 

    I recognize the no subscription fees model is a big part of its success, but I really don't look at GW as a lesser game than some of the other MMOGs I play. In fact, it's the only game I've come back to time and time again because I never have to reactivate a subscription. Also, the game has enough special events to make it worth returning to from time to time.

  • T4NKofF34RT4NKofF34R Member Posts: 7

    Admit it... You just play this f2p game while you wait on Diablo 3. I know.  We all are. I have been ever since Diablo 2. When they made the expansion Lord of Destruction, and really the initial expansion to the original Diablo, Blizzard set a trend that we all know and love.  They just take so damn long to put out games now that WoW is out that NCSoft got smart and did it faster.  And for that, I give them props.  But other than that...  When's D3 coming?

    "What's up with this? I try to be a nice guy, all I ask for in return's help. When my plans work and ur crying, I'll be laffin!"

  • Jackio81Jackio81 Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 418

    You know honestly I don't see anything wrong with hype.

    If a person is such a nitwit to fall for it then that's their problem.

    ;)

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