The best MMORPG I've ever played is DAOC. I don't post here often for good reason. I did enjoy Guild Wars, but NcSoft has not been able to meet the expectations of those who play MMO's. For every post about balance and how impressed you are with what NcSoft is doing, do understand that NcSoft has been in this business for a long time and they have yet to figure out how to connect to their customers.
I'm in a customer service business and there is no doubt that NcSoft is not good at it (Tabula Rasa was a big win.....). I would have loved to post my comments directly to NcSoft but there Forums are closed?
There hasn't been a good MMO to hit the street in a while. Warhammer failed and many are waiting to be impressed. I WANT to be impressed.
According to any MMO related forum of any MMO game they all fail at launch. Hell just two weeks ago I saw that CO failed and is doomed not to make it past the first week before it gets shut down. Personally I didn't like the game (Aion). But even I know it's not going to fail. I personally think the way they handle the population is a smart move. If you played WAr, you'll know why. In WAR the teams were more lopsided than Tara Reid's boobies.
I hear you. I guess I'm more worried that the imbalance/overpopulation and the subsequint lock-out will last past prelaunch. Having played MMO's for years, I know that whether your Midgard, Horde (any ugly/evil faction), will have a lower population. I play Horde in WOW and we are definately outnumbered. Join my server in WoW, said to be 8:1 in favor for the horde, last two big alliance guilds transfered off a few weeks ago. The balance problem consists on both sides. Good to see NCSoft taking on it before it even becomes a problem for us players. The Aion server my giuld is on is not imbalanced, it just has a higher population at the moment. We are in "pre-launch" the server is locked. Population is low? Just doesn't make sense. Even though it may be low pop, it's temporarily closed for the other servers to catch up. Better than having the one and only server to play on in a few month -think of WAR. Things may also progress fast this weekend and overall balance wasn't set in stone on this first friday evening. In the end, there won't only be 1 server to join as it is in other games, but you will have the comfort of picking whichever server and they will be all good. http://www.aionsource.com/forum/news-announcements/58131-preselection-server-status.html Not really impatient, just have higher expectations. In the advertisement to buy the prelaunch, early character creation is one of the enticements. I bought the prelaunch and I'm not able to proceed as advertised.
The misuse of the word fail is getting really old. It has been overused incorrectly way to much. This was "cool" like...a year and a half ago. Can't you people come up with something better to say than such and such...FAIL...such and such FAIL. It isn't anywhere near the proper way the word is to be used. If your going to say something failED then say it FAILED...don't just say...AION sucks...FAIL. Really people...you would think you all dropped out of 2nd grade to play video games for the rest of your life and learned zero engrish.
The fireball failed to add any value to the conversation. Become familiar with the meme, as in thefireball fail.
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Fail is a meme that developed when Twitter experienced "fail" and it became a meme.
They're locking down servers for a reason, and im amazed some people can't seem to understand why.
I want to play with my guildies to, and if I just wait a few days they will let more people in on the server. Honestly im glad they're spreading the population out, and making sure the servers are fairly balanced.
They're locking down servers for a reason, and im amazed some people can't seem to understand why. I want to play with my guildies to, and if I just wait a few days they will let more people in on the server. Honestly im glad they're spreading the population out, and making sure the servers are fairly balanced.
Yeah, that's pretty much their tactic for shutting the servers down. I just hope that they actually free the servers up again because I'm stressed by the fact that my friends can't play on the server with me.
The fireball failed to add any value to the conversation. Become familiar with the meme, as in thefireball fail. A meme (pronounced /?mi?m/, rhyming with "cream"[1]) is a postulated unit or element of cultural ideas, symbols or practices, and is transmitted from one mind to another through speech, gestures, rituals, or other imitable phenomena. Fail is a meme that developed when Twitter experienced "fail" and it became a meme.
Just because you try to give the misuse and retardation of the English language a name doesn't make it right. When you try to act smart and justify saying something incorrectly with the definition of "meme" you are just making yourself look more and more stupid. You know you're wrong...quit trying to justify sounding like a moron.
I'm not sure how I atracted so many pro NCsoft/balance the servers posters, yet an identicle post with even more posting similar to mine can be found at
I actually sent a link to my post to NcSoft to get them to respond to an e-mail I sent them. I'm wondering if some/many of the posts in this thread are from NcSoft staff? Conspiracy theory or reality. Read the other thread and you decide.
Dewey, I wouldn't waste your breath here. It seems the amount of idiots willing to crucify you for having a valid concern over a game vastly outweigh the people who actually want to listen to you and discuss it. It'd be like punching a brick wall at this point.
lol, you are beyond the level of stupidity and ignorance.
How is balancing a server bad? The servers are only TEMPORARILY locked. They want the population to spread amongst all of the servers rather than everyone trying to get on 2 or 3 (like most games).
@ the OP, just wait it out and keep trying to make your char(s) on the server you want (Use www.na.aiononline.com/en/news/preselection-server-status.html as a reference) You might not be able to make your char on the server you want until Sunday, but it's better than nothing. Especially since we can't even play until then anyway.
I'm not going to be playing this game, but I commend them for taking steps to ensure that their servers are more or less headed in the direction of being balanced faction-wise.
Man, if only WAR had taken these steps (like we begged them to in beta) maybe it would be struggling so hard right now. Actually this bodes really well for all players of the community of this game although it inconveniences some at the moment. Getting separated or being afraid you'll not get into the server you want to play on with your guild causes great anxiety for people. It's only the ones that don't get the big picture that lash out about it though.
In fact, this little bit of info about how they're responsibly handling this is the first piece of info about this game that actually makes me want to check it out as you can tell that they're willing to do the "right thing" in terms of setting out a plan from the beginning to get things on track for competitive pvp later on instead of just opening up their servers to a free for all and have them be so lopsided that they'll never recover. Props to them.
Just for a little history lesson for those who didn't know. Another "pvp centric" game WAR released a year ago and people said "oh ffs just open up the servers to all they'll balance themselves out! they always do! noobs will leave, people will switch factions etc...yadda yadda yadda it'll be fine." And then they did, and then eventually ended up never recovering from how bad the server situation was at launch. Massive overcrowded queues on the few "balanced" servers was one resulting issue. Scads of ghost town servers was another. Loads of servers favoring one faction (destruction) over the other by heavy margins, causing crappy wait times for scenarios and lopsided rvr, sucking the fun right out of the game. Eventually they had to literally shut down and consolidate to try and fix the mess.
If only they had followed this sane course of action they wouldn't have flushed so much potential down the drain.
Well said thafireball. I was just getting a rise out of you. I noticed that a high percentage of your posts were "flames" at others and thought I'd call you out.
Well said thafireball. I was just getting a rise out of you. I noticed that a high percentage of your posts were "flames" at others and thought I'd call you out. http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/userPosts/1111513/page/4 You're just to clever for me. I guess it's a Dewey fail. You win
I'm going to do some thinking on the importance of balancing the game. At the start of this thread, I have to admit, it reflects my frustration with having to spam a server (spending more time than I planned) to reserve a name) and having no way to communicate my frustration with NcSoft.
I do enjoy PVP. There never really was any balance in DAOC, and I had a blast night after night for ya few years (RR7 Scout - no I'm not a power gamer). I then switched to Midgard and PVP'd there and had just as much fun. The population of each server shifted over the years. I don't believe that balance is achievable yet I'm willing to give it a chance.
I can tell you that if I am not able to log onto the same server as the guild I have decided to join (because one of my DAOC friends is in the guild), I'll stick with WOW and wait for the next big MMO to arrive.
I'm still disappointed in Aion so far, but my $50 is already in their hands. That's incentive enough to stick it out for a couple more weeks. I would encourage others to wait and see how this goes. As I mentioned, this is the same company that gave us Tabula Rasa. They are not blowing us away with an incredible experience so far.
If prelaunch is any indication of what can be expected from the new MMORPG Aion, hang onto your $50 for now and wait. Many who expected to create characters during prelaunch are finding an ill prepared development team locking down servers, leaving portions of established guilds unable to participate. Very disappointing.
1) the preselect of names started like 45 mins late, no reason to get all bent out of shape
2) servers were locked and unlocked during all the betas, when one side too vastly outnumbers the other it does so to keep the balance between factions, and when it hits a certain total it locks till the devs take a look and unlock it. happened during closed and open bets
3) dont knock the game till youve played it, period.
I'm still disappointed in Aion so far, but my $50 is already in their hands. That's incentive enough to stick it out for a couple more weeks. I would encourage others to wait and see how this goes. As I mentioned, this is the same company that gave us Tabula Rasa. They are not blowing us away with an incredible experience so far.
Tabula Rasa was actually a great game, it just didn't have enough subs to keep it up.
I did. Missed the beta but I enjoyed the game play in Guild wars I'm hoping it is as good as that or better. I've been to the log on screen and that has a Guild wars feel to it. I'm looking forward to flying. As a casual gamer, flying reduces the amount of time it takes to get to where I want to be.
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I'm going to do some thinking on the importance of balancing the game. At the start of this thread, I have to admit, it reflects my frustration with having to spam a server (spending more time than I planned) to reserve a name) and having no way to communicate my frustration with NcSoft. I do enjoy PVP. There never really was any balance in DAOC, and I had a blast night after night for ya few years (RR7 Scout - no I'm not a power gamer). I then switched to Midgard and PVP'd there and had just as much fun. The population of each server shifted over the years. I don't believe that balance is achievable yet I'm willing to give it a chance. I can tell you that if I am not able to log onto the same server as the guild I have decided to join (because one of my DAOC friends is in the guild), I'll stick with WOW and wait for the next big MMO to arrive. I'm still disappointed in Aion so far, but my $50 is already in their hands. That's incentive enough to stick it out for a couple more weeks. I would encourage others to wait and see how this goes. As I mentioned, this is the same company that gave us Tabula Rasa. They are not blowing us away with an incredible experience so far.
Lol, yeah me too my money is their hands and it made me a bit mad that they didn't charge me later, but what can I say, preorder shipped today:
Balancing a server isn't a bad idea, it's just not realistic.
You mentioned Tabula Rasa didn't have enough subscriptions to stay alive. There were many who tried Tabula Rasa when it first came out. I was one of them. There were almost as many who left after the first few months (same thing happened in Warhammer).
If most of your players (especially your dedicated core players) are going to join the game when it launches, why would you put players in the position I'm in.
I came home from work, ate dinner, logged on and planned to create my new character, log onto my guilds forum and plan for headstart.
Instead, I logged on and got a message that said I can't create my character. I searched around and found a post that said "Don't worry, once headstart kicks of, you'll be able to start your character."
I think to myself, I paid the $50, downloaded the client (from file planet - that's another story in itself), I'm being told that I shouldn't worry, I'll be able to join my guild. Why make me wait? Why should I have to log in randomly over the next several days, doing something that should have just taken me a few minutes?
Games fail when they don't pay attention to those who buy the game. We won't even notice balance issues until several weeks into the game. In my opinion, NcSoft is making a mistake. If I leave the game soon after launch (and others who are not impressed with the game), we all lose out.
Just my opinion, and I do understand the issue with balance. If I can't join my guild, there will be one less person to own in PVP (and there are many others who would agree).
If prelaunch is any indication of what can be expected from the new MMORPG Aion, hang onto your $50 for now and wait. Many who expected to create characters during prelaunch are finding an ill prepared development team locking down servers, leaving portions of established guilds unable to participate. Very disappointing.
Do you always moan , it starts to get annoying after a while , do us all a favour and Cancel your order saves us the trouble of entertaining a child , what are you? 11 years old you need to start growing up and give the companys a break mate.
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The best MMORPG I've ever played is DAOC. I don't post here often for good reason. I did enjoy Guild Wars, but NcSoft has not been able to meet the expectations of those who play MMO's. For every post about balance and how impressed you are with what NcSoft is doing, do understand that NcSoft has been in this business for a long time and they have yet to figure out how to connect to their customers.
I'm in a customer service business and there is no doubt that NcSoft is not good at it (Tabula Rasa was a big win.....). I would have loved to post my comments directly to NcSoft but there Forums are closed?
There hasn't been a good MMO to hit the street in a while. Warhammer failed and many are waiting to be impressed. I WANT to be impressed.
According to any MMO related forum of any MMO game they all fail at launch. Hell just two weeks ago I saw that CO failed and is doomed not to make it past the first week before it gets shut down. Personally I didn't like the game (Aion). But even I know it's not going to fail. I personally think the way they handle the population is a smart move. If you played WAr, you'll know why. In WAR the teams were more lopsided than Tara Reid's boobies.
i wrote green stuff!
The misuse of the word fail is getting really old. It has been overused incorrectly way to much. This was "cool" like...a year and a half ago. Can't you people come up with something better to say than such and such...FAIL...such and such FAIL. It isn't anywhere near the proper way the word is to be used. If your going to say something failED then say it FAILED...don't just say...AION sucks...FAIL. Really people...you would think you all dropped out of 2nd grade to play video games for the rest of your life and learned zero engrish.
The fireball failed to add any value to the conversation. Become familiar with the meme, as in thefireball fail.
A meme (pronounced /?mi?m/, rhyming with "cream"[1]) is a postulated unit or element of cultural ideas, symbols or practices, and is transmitted from one mind to another through speech, gestures, rituals, or other imitable phenomena.
Fail is a meme that developed when Twitter experienced "fail" and it became a meme.
I apologize, not thefireball, thafireball?
They're locking down servers for a reason, and im amazed some people can't seem to understand why.
I want to play with my guildies to, and if I just wait a few days they will let more people in on the server. Honestly im glad they're spreading the population out, and making sure the servers are fairly balanced.
Yeah, that's pretty much their tactic for shutting the servers down. I just hope that they actually free the servers up again because I'm stressed by the fact that my friends can't play on the server with me.
Just because you try to give the misuse and retardation of the English language a name doesn't make it right. When you try to act smart and justify saying something incorrectly with the definition of "meme" you are just making yourself look more and more stupid. You know you're wrong...quit trying to justify sounding like a moron.
I'm not sure how I atracted so many pro NCsoft/balance the servers posters, yet an identicle post with even more posting similar to mine can be found at
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/252361/page/1
I actually sent a link to my post to NcSoft to get them to respond to an e-mail I sent them. I'm wondering if some/many of the posts in this thread are from NcSoft staff? Conspiracy theory or reality. Read the other thread and you decide.
lol, you are beyond the level of stupidity and ignorance.
How is balancing a server bad? The servers are only TEMPORARILY locked. They want the population to spread amongst all of the servers rather than everyone trying to get on 2 or 3 (like most games).
@ the OP, just wait it out and keep trying to make your char(s) on the server you want (Use www.na.aiononline.com/en/news/preselection-server-status.html as a reference) You might not be able to make your char on the server you want until Sunday, but it's better than nothing. Especially since we can't even play until then anyway.
I'm not going to be playing this game, but I commend them for taking steps to ensure that their servers are more or less headed in the direction of being balanced faction-wise.
Man, if only WAR had taken these steps (like we begged them to in beta) maybe it would be struggling so hard right now. Actually this bodes really well for all players of the community of this game although it inconveniences some at the moment. Getting separated or being afraid you'll not get into the server you want to play on with your guild causes great anxiety for people. It's only the ones that don't get the big picture that lash out about it though.
In fact, this little bit of info about how they're responsibly handling this is the first piece of info about this game that actually makes me want to check it out as you can tell that they're willing to do the "right thing" in terms of setting out a plan from the beginning to get things on track for competitive pvp later on instead of just opening up their servers to a free for all and have them be so lopsided that they'll never recover. Props to them.
Just for a little history lesson for those who didn't know. Another "pvp centric" game WAR released a year ago and people said "oh ffs just open up the servers to all they'll balance themselves out! they always do! noobs will leave, people will switch factions etc...yadda yadda yadda it'll be fine." And then they did, and then eventually ended up never recovering from how bad the server situation was at launch. Massive overcrowded queues on the few "balanced" servers was one resulting issue. Scads of ghost town servers was another. Loads of servers favoring one faction (destruction) over the other by heavy margins, causing crappy wait times for scenarios and lopsided rvr, sucking the fun right out of the game. Eventually they had to literally shut down and consolidate to try and fix the mess.
If only they had followed this sane course of action they wouldn't have flushed so much potential down the drain.
Well said thafireball. I was just getting a rise out of you. I noticed that a high percentage of your posts were "flames" at others and thought I'd call you out.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/userPosts/1111513/page/4
You're just to clever for me. I guess it's a Dewey fail. You win
Are you planning on buying Aion?
I'm going to do some thinking on the importance of balancing the game. At the start of this thread, I have to admit, it reflects my frustration with having to spam a server (spending more time than I planned) to reserve a name) and having no way to communicate my frustration with NcSoft.
I do enjoy PVP. There never really was any balance in DAOC, and I had a blast night after night for ya few years (RR7 Scout - no I'm not a power gamer). I then switched to Midgard and PVP'd there and had just as much fun. The population of each server shifted over the years. I don't believe that balance is achievable yet I'm willing to give it a chance.
I can tell you that if I am not able to log onto the same server as the guild I have decided to join (because one of my DAOC friends is in the guild), I'll stick with WOW and wait for the next big MMO to arrive.
I'm still disappointed in Aion so far, but my $50 is already in their hands. That's incentive enough to stick it out for a couple more weeks. I would encourage others to wait and see how this goes. As I mentioned, this is the same company that gave us Tabula Rasa. They are not blowing us away with an incredible experience so far.
1) the preselect of names started like 45 mins late, no reason to get all bent out of shape
2) servers were locked and unlocked during all the betas, when one side too vastly outnumbers the other it does so to keep the balance between factions, and when it hits a certain total it locks till the devs take a look and unlock it. happened during closed and open bets
3) dont knock the game till youve played it, period.
Tabula Rasa was actually a great game, it just didn't have enough subs to keep it up.
I think your asking me if I bought the game.
I did. Missed the beta but I enjoyed the game play in Guild wars I'm hoping it is as good as that or better. I've been to the log on screen and that has a Guild wars feel to it. I'm looking forward to flying. As a casual gamer, flying reduces the amount of time it takes to get to where I want to be.
Well, 2 am Sat morning, and so far no luck getting on the server my guilds on. (regardless of side) Maybe tomorrow they'll open it back up again.
Edit: Now is 8:00 and as people predicted, problem solved....... got in on my server in my chosen race......
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Lol, yeah me too my money is their hands and it made me a bit mad that they didn't charge me later, but what can I say, preorder shipped today:
Read on another thread that servers will all be unlocked the day headstart starts.
If true, then all we need is patience
Read on another thread that servers will all be unlocked the day headstart starts.
If true, then all we need is patience
You might have read that from me. Here's the source: twitter.com/aion_liv/status/4093193326
You might lose your name, but at least you'll be able to play on the same server.
"There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer."
http://na.aiononline.com/en/news/preselection-server-status.html
Link to see which are locked or open.
Balancing a server isn't a bad idea, it's just not realistic.
You mentioned Tabula Rasa didn't have enough subscriptions to stay alive. There were many who tried Tabula Rasa when it first came out. I was one of them. There were almost as many who left after the first few months (same thing happened in Warhammer).
If most of your players (especially your dedicated core players) are going to join the game when it launches, why would you put players in the position I'm in.
I came home from work, ate dinner, logged on and planned to create my new character, log onto my guilds forum and plan for headstart.
Instead, I logged on and got a message that said I can't create my character. I searched around and found a post that said "Don't worry, once headstart kicks of, you'll be able to start your character."
I think to myself, I paid the $50, downloaded the client (from file planet - that's another story in itself), I'm being told that I shouldn't worry, I'll be able to join my guild. Why make me wait? Why should I have to log in randomly over the next several days, doing something that should have just taken me a few minutes?
Games fail when they don't pay attention to those who buy the game. We won't even notice balance issues until several weeks into the game. In my opinion, NcSoft is making a mistake. If I leave the game soon after launch (and others who are not impressed with the game), we all lose out.
Just my opinion, and I do understand the issue with balance. If I can't join my guild, there will be one less person to own in PVP (and there are many others who would agree).
Do you always moan , it starts to get annoying after a while , do us all a favour and Cancel your order saves us the trouble of entertaining a child , what are you? 11 years old you need to start growing up and give the companys a break mate.