Yes, I must say you, in Michigan, have much worse winters than we do in Eastern Washington State. I'd definitely hole up next to a warm fireplace and a good game of EQ2 than do anything outside!
Definitely! <chuckles> Sometimes you can't even leave the house. Good thing the cable still runs! I'd go nutso without the computer and a good game. Oh yes, don't let me forget the fire!
Originally posted by bukshot Millbro I agree with you 100%. Thats way too much money! Everyone says "Oh well if your having fun its worth it", "I pay $3,000 a day for gas." Uh that still does not make it right to keep raising the price. So what happens when its $15 a day, is everyone gonna keep playing if they are "having fun"? There are alot of young people who play these games that are in school and only have a part-time job. Those people cannot afford to keep their computer up to date and pay a rediculous monthly fee. Well this is a never ending argument but this is where I stand! From what I hear EQII isnt gonna be worth the $15 anyway!
Yeah..and everything should cost the same it did 100 years ago..yeah..yeah *cough*.
Next thing your gonna say is you want the 5 cent Burgers back from the 50's and 60's.
EQ2 inflation grows with the economy Inflation. It's all part of the world and life..Are you living in it?
im happy as all get out, i thiught for sure they would try to rip us for like 19.99 a month. atleast this is within a monthly fee i can live with. since EQ2 has anounced this price it sort of set the price for other games coming out also. SOE has finally done something i can thank them for, and from me to thank SOE is saying a lot.
Someone is reading "$15.00 per month" and going, "OMG $15 NO WAY UR RAPING ME"
Alright, so maybe the number 15 is really big. Let's break it down: 30 days, $15 -- $0.50 per day. FIFTY CENTS PER DAY.
How much money do you spend on food daily? How about entertainment? Gas? Laundry (maybe)? Big Bills? $0.50 per day... two small packs of Juicy Fruit gum is $.50 per day. Go to a movie theater into an arcade machine -- one play is $.50 if you're lucky!
How many here buy 1 game per month, for PC or console? How about 1 every two months? $50 a game folks -- Buy one every two months for a year, and you've spent $300. Buy this game, pay for it for a 11 months, plus the retail price of $50 for the game and first month, and you've only spent $215. Due to the addictive nature of MMOGs, people tend not to blow cash on many titles once they have one. Ask an EQ junkie how many other games they buy -- probably not nearly as many.
These type of post make me laugh. I see them in every game and pity the poster and what meager logic is used to condemn a high price. As gamers we spend over $500 every 2 years or so upgrading graphics cards, memory, cpu's, mbs to play games. Game machines require alot more power then running Excel. So people dont mind paying over $20 a month average on computer upgrades so we can play games, but will whine about spending 15 a month on a game. There is also the cost of electricity that is ignored. There is also the cost of the isp. So the reason we buy these computers is to play games that cost around 1/5 the monthly upkeep.
The entertainment per hour cost that players recieve from games is very cheap. If you really cant afford $15 a month dont upgrade your computer to a game machine and concentrate on getting your finances in order...you have more severe problems than a $15 a month bill.
With an arguable 3% inflation rate we should be seeing a cost increase in games soon. If games cost are proportional to the inflation then they should be increasing almost $.50 a year.
On average i buy a game a month, when i was playing eq 1 (played it for a year) i did not buy one game.. EQ1 saved me money (The SoE debt consolidation plan!! :P)
Originally posted by flabair im happy as all get out, i thiught for sure they would try to rip us for like 19.99 a month. atleast this is within a monthly fee i can live with. since EQ2 has anounced this price it sort of set the price for other games coming out also. SOE has finally done something i can thank them for, and from me to thank SOE is saying a lot.
Yes, I too was fearing the $19.99 monthly fee. I think think $15/mo is very good price. I used to pay $10 a month for Ultima Online. I quit before they raised UO to $13/mo, and I feel sorry for people who still play UO because they are getting the same awful cartoon graphics for only a dollar less than we'll be paying for EQ2's really good graphics.
Originally posted by hercules To be honest it was a sign of relief for me. SoE is always first to hike prices and i thought they use EQ2 as a chance to do it again. I am going for the all access pass though because i plan to keep planetside and it works out cheaper that way.
I don't know if you've heard something I haven't but i really really doubt EQ2 is gonna be included in the all access pass, much like SWG wasn't
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i just recently bought star wars: battlefront and bloodrayne 2. beat both of them within 3 days. 50$ per game, thats 100$. somehow 15$ per month doesnt seem like very much at all...and it would probably save me from buying most of those 1 player type games. so, if you look at it like that, then well you would actually be saving money.
Hmm, don't you just love this topic, It's always the same...
You can't debate this with some poeple, they will never listen to the examples given from those that say "$15 is cheap entertainment"...It just goes on and on and on.
SWG wasn't included because they weren't allowed to as the game is also operated by LucasArts. In order for it to be included in the stationpass it has to be fully owned by SOE.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
$15 bucks is fine with me as well. It's the same as going to a late movie with my wife (add drink and popcorn and your well over $20) and that's 1 night of entertainment. This lasts a month!
I don't understand the complaint.
btw - just made Warrior class last night! I really am enjoying this game. Started a Monk last night as well cause I saw the staff moves on another player and thought it looked COOL
Originally posted by bukshot There are alot of young people who play these games that are in school and only have a part-time job. Those people cannot afford to keep their computer up to date and pay a rediculous monthly fee. Well this is a never ending argument but this is where I stand! From what I hear EQII isnt gonna be worth the $15 anyway!
LOLOLOL to funny, $15 is suddenly a rediculous amount of money?!?!?! Maybe you should quit playing games, concentrate on school, get a real job, move out of that trailer park you call home, then worry about spending rediculous amounts of money for entertainment purposes.
15$ for bein able to play theoretically 24 hours per day for a whole month? i dont think thats much, its reasonable ^_^ i mean if i stay in a weekend gamin instead of goin out partyin/drinkin, damn i save like 100$ or smth lol so 15$ doesnt sound much for me in that sense
15$ is the limit though, i mean more and the game would have to b some kinda new great thing for me to pay ^^
Richijefe... level 61 Silver Ranger on Bartz... quit 4 months ago ^_^
Richijefe... level 61 Silver Ranger on Bartz... quit 4 months ago ^_^
WOW...a BIG Congratz Man ! That's quite the accomplishment! I'm currently only lvl 27 Elven Knight (Bartz) but my time is limited through out the week. I've had fun..but now I think I'll put the old L2 account on hold for a while and consentrate on EQ2 for a while!
tnx roland! ^_^ im sure you would have been the same lvl if you had as much free time as i had back then hehe lineage 2 is all bout 24/7 grindin
yah good idea, lineage 2 is too much of a korean hardcore grindin game lol eq2 seems like a cool game, goin for WoW though myself, cuz i like pvp ^_^ will check eq2 out when some pvp server or some kinda pvp is introduced ^^
cheers
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Winter is coming to Michigan.
To entertain myself here for the entire winter, it would involve going to a lot of movies, skiing, snow tubing, snowmobiling and much more.
Now, I will still do some of that, but most of the time, I want handy, cheap entertainment. It sounds to me like $15 a month is right in my budget.
If I like the game well enough to play a second month, then I know it will be worth it for me.
Michigan in the winter is reallllllllly boring most of the time!
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Yes, I must say you, in Michigan, have much worse winters than we do in Eastern Washington State. I'd definitely hole up next to a warm fireplace and a good game of EQ2 than do anything outside!
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Yeah..and everything should cost the same it did 100 years ago..yeah..yeah *cough*.
Next thing your gonna say is you want the 5 cent Burgers back from the 50's and 60's.
EQ2 inflation grows with the economy Inflation. It's all part of the world and life..Are you living in it?
Obviously not...*shrugs*
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im happy as all get out, i thiught for sure they would try to rip us for like 19.99 a month. atleast this is within a monthly fee i can live with. since EQ2 has anounced this price it sort of set the price for other games coming out also. SOE has finally done something i can thank them for, and from me to thank SOE is saying a lot.
Too bad ... 15$
Let's put this in perspective.
Someone is reading "$15.00 per month" and going, "OMG $15 NO WAY UR RAPING ME"
Alright, so maybe the number 15 is really big. Let's break it down: 30 days, $15 -- $0.50 per day. FIFTY CENTS PER DAY.
How much money do you spend on food daily? How about entertainment? Gas? Laundry (maybe)? Big Bills? $0.50 per day... two small packs of Juicy Fruit gum is $.50 per day. Go to a movie theater into an arcade machine -- one play is $.50 if you're lucky!
How many here buy 1 game per month, for PC or console? How about 1 every two months? $50 a game folks -- Buy one every two months for a year, and you've spent $300. Buy this game, pay for it for a 11 months, plus the retail price of $50 for the game and first month, and you've only spent $215. Due to the addictive nature of MMOGs, people tend not to blow cash on many titles once they have one. Ask an EQ junkie how many other games they buy -- probably not nearly as many.
Really, I don't see the big deal.
These type of post make me laugh. I see them in every game and pity the poster and what meager logic is used to condemn a high price. As gamers we spend over $500 every 2 years or so upgrading graphics cards, memory, cpu's, mbs to play games. Game machines require alot more power then running Excel. So people dont mind paying over $20 a month average on computer upgrades so we can play games, but will
whine
about spending 15 a month on a game. There is also the cost of electricity that is ignored. There is also the cost of the isp. So the reason we buy these computers is to play games that cost around 1/5 the monthly upkeep.
The entertainment per hour cost that players recieve from games is very cheap. If you really cant afford $15 a month dont upgrade your computer to a game machine and concentrate on getting your finances in order...you have more severe problems than a $15 a month bill.
With an arguable 3% inflation rate we should be seeing a cost increase in games soon. If games cost are proportional to the inflation then they should be increasing almost $.50 a year.
"Sony Customer Service is like Santa Clause, people say they've seen them but they don't really exist"
"Sony Customer Service is like Santa Clause, people say they've seen them but they don't really exist"
Who wants a job that pays 50 cents a day? Jeez...
And think about this: You can sponser a child in a 3rd world country for only 35 cents a day! You could turn someone life around!
Now is EQ2 worth someone's life? HUH?
SOE is killing children in 3rd world countries! Why is this not an outrage on every major news network?
ahem.... *wanders off*
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You can't debate this with some poeple, they will never listen to the examples given from those that say "$15 is cheap entertainment"...It just goes on and on and on.
Just pay and play or don't, as simple as that !!
/Junker
yes it will be included on the access pass. On the Character Creation Disk it states that EQ2 will be part of the access pass
http://www.sonyonline.com/E3_2003/SOE_All_Access_Pass_announcement_FINAL.doc
http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=Newbie&message.id=58736&jump=true
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SWG wasn't included because they weren't allowed to as the game is also operated by LucasArts. In order for it to be included in the stationpass it has to be fully owned by SOE.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
I don't mind the price, It's what I pay to play Lineage 2
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$15 bucks is fine with me as well. It's the same as going to a late movie with my wife (add drink and popcorn and your well over $20) and that's 1 night of entertainment. This lasts a month!
I don't understand the complaint.
btw - just made Warrior class last night! I really am enjoying this game. Started a Monk last night as well cause I saw the staff moves on another player and thought it looked COOL
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LOLOLOL to funny, $15 is suddenly a rediculous amount of money?!?!?! Maybe you should quit playing games, concentrate on school, get a real job, move out of that trailer park you call home, then worry about spending rediculous amounts of money for entertainment purposes.
15$ for bein able to play theoretically 24 hours per day for a whole month? i dont think thats much, its reasonable ^_^ i mean if i stay in a weekend gamin instead of goin out partyin/drinkin, damn i save like 100$ or smth lol so 15$ doesnt sound much for me in that sense
15$ is the limit though, i mean more and the game would have to b some kinda new great thing for me to pay ^^
Richijefe... level 61 Silver Ranger on Bartz... quit 4 months ago ^_^
Richijefe
WOW...a BIG Congratz Man !
That's quite the accomplishment! I'm currently only lvl 27 Elven Knight (Bartz) but my time is limited through out the week. I've had fun..but now I think I'll put the old L2 account on hold for a while and consentrate on EQ2 for a while!
Cheers,
RA
"It'll be dark soon."
"Aye...that it will."
tnx roland! ^_^ im sure you would have been the same lvl if you had as much free time as i had back then hehe lineage 2 is all bout 24/7 grindin
yah good idea, lineage 2 is too much of a korean hardcore grindin game lol eq2 seems like a cool game, goin for WoW though myself, cuz i like pvp ^_^ will check eq2 out when some pvp server or some kinda pvp is introduced ^^
cheers
Richijefe... level 61 Silver Ranger on Bartz... quit 4 months ago ^_^
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