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mortharxmortharx Member Posts: 293

WE customers need to stop supporting these copy products! NOW!

Or this LOOP will go on FOREVER. The MMO industry is releasing the SAME GAMES over and over with slightly different themes. That will hold the players interest for a month or a few at best.

AS IF the MMO development has reached it's CLIMAX and there is nothing to develop anymore?!?? WTF???

There has been almost NO PROGRESS in this genre SINCE EVERQUEST only thanks to Darkfall there has been some  progress, BUT for the rest it's only been downhill (thanks to added handholding and ease for failure all respect and interest for the gameworld and feel of an adventure IS GONE) There is ABSOLUTELY nothing NEW to these games everything has been SIMPLIFIED that is all they have done! Follow this journal and these pointers here for your next stop and watch out for the dots in your GPS RADAR MAP!

THE NEWBIE FEELING is GONE! Totally GONE!

My newbie char is already making effects and spells so flashy that only an explosion of a sun would be more impressive!

My newbie already plays and looks like a champ taking down tons of opponents at once 5 times bigger than him..

THESE GAMES are so retarded IT MAKES ME PUKE How can people accept this kind of crap are you ZOMBIES?

AND DON'T tell me the game gets more interesting at later levels, because I know it doesn't and why should any game be boring in the beginning?

There is SERIOUSLY something WRONG in the MAINSTREAM design that NEEDS TO BE FIXED!

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  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member EpicPosts: 4,662
    Originally posted by mortharx


    WE customers need to stop supporting these copy products! NOW!
    Or this LOOP will go on FOREVER. The MMO industry is releasing the SAME GAMES over and over with slightly different themes. That will hold the players interest for a month or a few at best.
    AS IF the MMO development has reached it's CLIMAX and there is nothing to develop anymore?!?? WTF???
    There has been almost NO PROGRESS in this genre SINCE EVERQUEST only thanks to Darkfall there has been some  progress, BUT for the rest it's only been downhill (thanks to added handholding and ease for failure all respect and interest for the gameworld and feel of an adventure IS GONE) There is ABSOLUTELY nothing NEW to these games everything has been SIMPLIFIED that is all they have done! Follow this journal and these pointers here for your next stop and watch out for the dots in your GPS RADAR MAP!
    THE NEWBIE FEELING is GONE! Totally GONE!
    My newbie char is already making effects and spells so flashy that only an explosion of a sun would be more impressive!
    My newbie already plays and looks like a champ taking down tons of opponents at once 5 times bigger than him..
    THESE GAMES are so retarded IT MAKES ME PUKE How can people accept this kind of crap are you ZOMBIES?
    AND DON'T tell me the game gets more interesting at later levels, because I know it doesn't and why should any game be boring in the beginning?
    There is SERIOUSLY something WRONG in the MAINSTREAM design that NEEDS TO BE FIXED!

     

    Go play EQ?


  • ThenariusThenarius Member Posts: 1,106

    If you don't enjoy a certain type of game, it doesn't mean other people doesn't enjoy it.

    On the other hand, I kinda agree with you, but only time will tell if people will get the guts to make something "new".

  • HyanmenHyanmen Member UncommonPosts: 5,357

    Eh, no worries, FFXIV is coming soon. That'll fresh things out for a while at least, until game companies find another WoW to mimic.

    Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
  • glofishglofish Member UncommonPosts: 346
    Originally posted by Thenarius


    If you don't enjoy a certain type of game, it doesn't mean other people doesn't enjoy it.

    On the other hand, I kinda agree with you, but only time will tell if people will get the guts to make something "new".

     

    they are making new stuff all the time ... it's just that people do not like the new stuff ... it is not actually entertaining

     

     

  • DunjeonDunjeon Member Posts: 21
    Originally posted by mortharx


    WE customers need to stop supporting these copy products! NOW!
    Or this LOOP will go on FOREVER. The MMO industry is releasing the SAME GAMES over and over with slightly different themes. That will hold the players interest for a month or a few at best.
    AS IF the MMO development has reached it's CLIMAX and there is nothing to develop anymore?!?? WTF???
    There has been almost NO PROGRESS in this genre SINCE EVERQUEST only thanks to Darkfall there has been some  progress, BUT for the rest it's only been downhill (thanks to added handholding and ease for failure all respect and interest for the gameworld and feel of an adventure IS GONE) There is ABSOLUTELY nothing NEW to these games everything has been SIMPLIFIED that is all they have done! Follow this journal and these pointers here for your next stop and watch out for the dots in your GPS RADAR MAP!
    THE NEWBIE FEELING is GONE! Totally GONE!
    My newbie char is already making effects and spells so flashy that only an explosion of a sun would be more impressive!
    My newbie already plays and looks like a champ taking down tons of opponents at once 5 times bigger than him..
    THESE GAMES are so retarded IT MAKES ME PUKE How can people accept this kind of crap are you ZOMBIES?
    AND DON'T tell me the game gets more interesting at later levels, because I know it doesn't and why should any game be boring in the beginning?
    There is SERIOUSLY something WRONG in the MAINSTREAM design that NEEDS TO BE FIXED!

     

    I love this game... so of course I will support it.

     

    Nothing to see here.

    We rode on the winds of the rising storm,
    We ran to the sounds of the thunder.
    We danced among the lightning bolts,
    and tore the world asunder.

    --Anonymous fragment of a poem believed written near the end of the previous Age, known by some as the Third Age. Sometimes attributed to the Dragon Reborn

  • FolbyOrbFolbyOrb Member UncommonPosts: 357

    See cinema and literature.

    Playing | GW2
    Wanting | Pantheon
    Watching | Crowfall
    Retired | WAR, Cabal, MO, CO, SHK, WoW, FFXIV: ARR

  • neoterrarneoterrar Member Posts: 512

    Dunno, I find a lot of the games to be a variation on a theme.

    Even if its the same format (read genre) there is still a new story and environment to interact with.

    Most games in any genre grow through evolution not revolution. A change here, a change there. Unfortunately some things survive despite not making it better.

    It's not like you can support people that aren't making variations on a theme. They may have great ideas, but the implementation make a game that just isn't worth playing.

  • LynxJSALynxJSA Member RarePosts: 3,334
    Originally posted by Thenarius


    If you don't enjoy a certain type of game, it doesn't mean other people doesn't enjoy it.

    On the other hand, I kinda agree with you, but only time will tell if people will get the guts to make something "new".

     

    Different types of MMOs are made all the time, but people flock to the EQ/WOW variants. Not because it's their only choice, but because they like them.

    -- Whammy - a 64x64 miniRPG 
    RPG Quiz - can you get all 25 right? 
    FPS Quiz - how well do you know your shooters?  
  • SgtFrogSgtFrog Member Posts: 5,001

    Out Now: Darkfall, Fallen earth, EVE, Crimecraft

    Coming soon: The agency, ABP, DC universe, Earth Rise, Global Agenda, Huxley, Jumpgate Evaluation, Mortal Online, Star trek online

    There are tons of titles.

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  • blackthornnblackthornn Member UncommonPosts: 617
    Originally posted by SgtFrog




    Cumming soon:




     

    and what were you surfing before posting? 80

     Grouping in Old school mmo's: meeting someone at the bar and chatting, getting to know them before jumping into bed.  Current mmo's grouping: tinder.  swipe, hookup, hope you don't get herpes, never see them again.
  • BrixonBrixon Member UncommonPosts: 259

    Because WoW and it's variants sell. Gamers are as much to blame as the devs.

  • HyanmenHyanmen Member UncommonPosts: 5,357

    Nvm, misread.

    Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
  • talismen351talismen351 Member Posts: 1,124
    Originally posted by SgtFrog


    Out Now: Darkfall, Fallen earth, EVE, Crimecraft

    Cumming soon: The agency, ABP, DC universe, Earth Rise, Global Agenda, Huxley, Jumpgate Evaluation, Mortal Online, Star trek online
    There are tons of titles.

     

    We hear this 'comming soon' bit so often. Last year it was the 'Comming soon AoC, Warhammer' and most of us are still seeing the same ol same ol. So when will the 'Comming soon' actually mean a change of gameplay, rather than just a change of senery?

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  • SgtFrogSgtFrog Member Posts: 5,001
    Originally posted by blackthornn

    Originally posted by SgtFrog




    Cumming soon:




     

    and what were you surfing before posting? 80

     

    wops lol, my bad

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  • SgtFrogSgtFrog Member Posts: 5,001
    Originally posted by talismen351

    Originally posted by SgtFrog


    Out Now: Darkfall, Fallen earth, EVE, Crimecraft

    Cumming soon: The agency, ABP, DC universe, Earth Rise, Global Agenda, Huxley, Jumpgate Evaluation, Mortal Online, Star trek online
    There are tons of titles.

     

    We hear this 'comming soon' bit so often. Last year it was the 'Comming soon AoC, Warhammer' and most of us are still seeing the same ol same ol. So when will the 'Comming soon' actually mean a change of gameplay, rather than just a change of senery?

    You should probably check the titles out.

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    March on! - Lets Invade Pekopon

  • HyanmenHyanmen Member UncommonPosts: 5,357
    Originally posted by talismen351

    Originally posted by SgtFrog


    Out Now: Darkfall, Fallen earth, EVE, Crimecraft

    Cumming soon: The agency, ABP, DC universe, Earth Rise, Global Agenda, Huxley, Jumpgate Evaluation, Mortal Online, Star trek online
    There are tons of titles.

     

    We hear this 'comming soon' bit so often. Last year it was the 'Comming soon AoC, Warhammer' and most of us are still seeing the same ol same ol. So when will the 'Comming soon' actually mean a change of gameplay, rather than just a change of senery?

    While all of the titles posted above will most likely fail at providing different gameplay, the change is actually closer than one would think. Next year we'll finally see what we've been waiting for; a real change.

    Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
  • HyanmenHyanmen Member UncommonPosts: 5,357
    Originally posted by zymurgeist




    Be very still now. and listen. I'm about to reveal a Great Truth. They keep making them because people keep buying them. People keep buying them becaue they like them, it's comfortable and enjoyable for them. Many of them play these same games for months on end. Some jump from game to game. It's because they want to. If they didn't want to they wouldn't do it. If that's not what you want them to do Tough.
     
     
    Somebody once said...

    "... that's not why people watch TV. Clever things make people feel stupid, and unexpected things make them feel scared. TV audiences don't want anything original - they wanna see the same thing they've seen a thousand times before!"

    It might actually hold as much truth in the case of MMO's (and gaming in general) as it does in the TV industry.

     

    Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
  • DubhlaithDubhlaith Member Posts: 1,012


    Originally posted by Hyanmen
    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Be very still now. and listen. I'm about to reveal a Great Truth. They keep making them because people keep buying them. People keep buying them becaue they like them, it's comfortable and enjoyable for them. Many of them play these same games for months on end. Some jump from game to game. It's because they want to. If they didn't want to they wouldn't do it. If that's not what you want them to do Tough.
     
     
    Somebody once said...
    "... that's not why people watch TV. Clever things make people feel stupid, and unexpected things make them feel scared. TV audiences don't want anything original - they wanna see the same thing they've seen a thousand times before!"
    It might actually hold as much truth in the case of MMO's (and gaming in general) as it does in the TV industry.
     


    Somebody once said there is a sucker born every minute. What you say is true; people do not want new things because they have to figure it out again, which makes them flex their brain, and that hurts, and it scares them. And that is why Aion is so popular. It has better graphics, but it is the same game as before. This way, people can feel like they are playing something new without having to figure something out.

    "Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true — you know it, and they know it." —Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007

    WTF? No subscription fee?

  • DibdabsDibdabs Member RarePosts: 3,239
    Originally posted by mortharx


    WE customers need to stop supporting these copy products! NOW!
    Or this LOOP will go on FOREVER. The MMO industry is releasing the SAME GAMES over and over with slightly different themes.

    Aion is, indeed, a rehash of every other grindy, eye-candy Asian game out there.  Innovation seems to be absolutely zero. It's a pity, because I thought it might amount to something.  As a F2P it would be worth playing every now and again, but only the munchkins who are easily contented with Fed-Ex quests and "Kill 10 mobs" quests will stick with it.  The grown-ups will quickly move on.

  • DibdabsDibdabs Member RarePosts: 3,239
    Originally posted by SgtFrog


    Out Now: Darkfall, Fallen earth, EVE, Crimecraft

    Coming soon: The agency, ABP, DC universe, Earth Rise, Global Agenda, Huxley, Jumpgate Evaluation, Mortal Online, Star trek online
    There are tons of titles.

    Hell yeah. 

  • gakulegakule Member UncommonPosts: 92
    Originally posted by mortharx


    WE customers need to stop supporting these copy products! NOW!
    Or this LOOP will go on FOREVER. The MMO industry is releasing the SAME GAMES over and over with slightly different themes. That will hold the players interest for a month or a few at best.
    AS IF the MMO development has reached it's CLIMAX and there is nothing to develop anymore?!?? WTF???
    There has been almost NO PROGRESS in this genre SINCE EVERQUEST only thanks to Darkfall there has been some  progress, BUT for the rest it's only been downhill (thanks to added handholding and ease for failure all respect and interest for the gameworld and feel of an adventure IS GONE) There is ABSOLUTELY nothing NEW to these games everything has been SIMPLIFIED that is all they have done! Follow this journal and these pointers here for your next stop and watch out for the dots in your GPS RADAR MAP!
    THE NEWBIE FEELING is GONE! Totally GONE!
    My newbie char is already making effects and spells so flashy that only an explosion of a sun would be more impressive!
    My newbie already plays and looks like a champ taking down tons of opponents at once 5 times bigger than him..
    THESE GAMES are so retarded IT MAKES ME PUKE How can people accept this kind of crap are you ZOMBIES?
    AND DON'T tell me the game gets more interesting at later levels, because I know it doesn't and why should any game be boring in the beginning?
    There is SERIOUSLY something WRONG in the MAINSTREAM design that NEEDS TO BE FIXED!

     

    Really... so you're saying you've played to the end of the game... and have seen everything... quite interesting. You're also saying that a game that failed miserably is the only game that has made any progress... very interesting as well. When you've been playing MMO's for years, don't you think you'd get pretty good at it? The feeling of "being a newbie" has been gone for me since I played EQ 10 years ago.

    If you don't like it, don't play it. Stop spouting your bibble babble. GTFO.

  • TisiphoneTisiphone Member Posts: 486

    I agree that I'd like to see more innovation in the mainstream, but the solution is simple: play something that isn't mainstream.

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  • HyanmenHyanmen Member UncommonPosts: 5,357
    Originally posted by SgtFrog


    And you are probably a redneck.

    Homophobic is my guess.

    Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
  • PharoinPharoin Member Posts: 90

    Eventually new games will come out, u just have to be patient until then.

  • HyanmenHyanmen Member UncommonPosts: 5,357

    Well, tbh I find the characters of WoW AoC WAR and so on to be incredibly ugly, so I won't judge him.

    However I won't also go and say that people that like the characters in said games are X or Y, since that'd be simply wrong too, as it's a matter of taste.

    Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
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