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I've been looking for a new MMO for some time now, and after watching a few trailers, this looks like it could be some good fun. Before I throw money at people I have a few questions.
How is the character customization? Is it like WoW where everyone is a goofy looking clone or is there some real individuality? Do I have to be a huge naked muscle man or am I able to choose a body type?
What is the combat like? Is it the boring old tab 123 or do I actually get to DO something? From the trailers it looked pretty brutal, in a good way but I'd like to know how it all plays out with my fingers.
Is the community full of little kids or does the M rating actually keep the little brats out?
Are quests in the form of "Kill 7 of those things and bring me 4 of those things?" or is there more to it?(I'm hoping there's alot more to it in AoC)
Recently I've been playing DDO and while I'd say it's far better than many MMOs I've played, I think I need a little "more".
In a world where WoW is held so high, I don't really trust the numbers. So I ask you, the players of this game, what am I in for?
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I think I can only say, download the trial, and try for free for 7 days.
http://www.fileplanet.com/promotions/age-of-conan/trial/
The Game Director of AoC has a slogan about trying the game; "Don`t trust what I`m saying, try it for yourself!"
Short said, its a "little" more then WOWs combat system, don`t worry about that, just choose a melee user for that experience.
Story is good (imo) quest mood goes up & down, but most are quite doable. M rating, well, find a good mature guild, and get on a PvE server for best experience I think for a beginner. PvP are quite hard for starters.
Playing: Battlefield - Bad company (Xbox360) Arma2, DFO (PC)
On my radar: TSW, MO
MMO's played: SWG (pre cu/cu), WoW, AoC, WAR, DFO, Planetside
MMO's that I have tested: Lotro, L2, Aion, Ryzom
All right thanks for the replies. Downloading the trial now, quite the long download so I hope it won't be patching for a long time once it's done haha.
Good info from both of you, I look forward to being ganked!
They came from the sea and they came from the sky, Captain America is going to die!
when makeing your character check the more options button theirs ton of tatoes ,body scars, etc.only see people look the same when they dont go for further options.realy never came across any one that looked like my characters .
"Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing." Robert E. Howard, The Tower of the Elephant (1933)
How does a game that is near death look good?
Your points are directed at Age of Conan, so they seem rather loaded to me....my only rebuttle is Aion a new MMO that hasn't failed likek AoC has does them better.
Aion has 2 races and more customization.
Aion has a better combat system...it has chains so instead of playing simmon says you make a decision, also it is a more polished game.
Aion has a more mature community from what I have seen and I played AoC 2 months ago.
Realy you must be in the wrong forum as saying "Game looks good" here means "AoC looks good, read the front page the game is doing poorly because it is so lame.
Funcom has reviewed all of its assets relevant for
impairment testing. This process has led to
recognition of an impairment loss of around
3,1 MUSD for Age of Conan due to a decrease in
numbers of subscribers for the game. Funcom Q4 10 report.
http://forums.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=2926123&postcount=7 500 mains/alts on Tyranny in past 30 days - instead of merge servers let's open a new PvP server, again! http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=106427
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Not a fan yet, but on all points the OP listed Aion does a better job. If he asked about Raiding or PvE it would have been warcraft and PvP would have been darkfall. IMO he listed points to make AoC look better, so meh. Customization and combat system are all AoC had and now Aion came along and did a better job at both.
Are you one of the few people waiting for new content and more players so that you can play Age of Conan? If so you are more of a fan than I could ever be, I am only a fan of quality stuff. AoC is not remotely near anything resembaling quality to this day. Heck all the free trials just laughed at AoC when they failed to subscribe and many of teh old trials just laughed at AoC when they recently unsubscribed.
Aion is a better game, I don't even have to be at end game to see, the reason? AoC's endgame is empty, broken, and/or bugged that is one of many reasons why this game should never be reccomended to anyone.
Funcom has reviewed all of its assets relevant for
impairment testing. This process has led to
recognition of an impairment loss of around
3,1 MUSD for Age of Conan due to a decrease in
numbers of subscribers for the game. Funcom Q4 10 report.
http://forums.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=2926123&postcount=7 500 mains/alts on Tyranny in past 30 days - instead of merge servers let's open a new PvP server, again! http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=106427
AoC Dx10 settings > Aion, unless your a fanboi... its the truth, lol
If you look at the details in the world and such I would say AoC beats any game atm. Aion does have nice graphics tho, specially characters and gear is looking good. Some of the world also looks really good, whilst other areas I felt was a bit more rushed. But it wasn't bad. Then Again I do prefer AoC simply because it is low fantasy. Stuff looks more realistic and I prefer that over high fantasy where weapons is 2 times the size of the character etc.
Playing: Battlefield - Bad company (Xbox360) Arma2, DFO (PC)
On my radar: TSW, MO
MMO's played: SWG (pre cu/cu), WoW, AoC, WAR, DFO, Planetside
MMO's that I have tested: Lotro, L2, Aion, Ryzom
I am a fan of quality stuff and so far (level 39 atm) I have found that AoC is a high quality and polished game. Found two minor bugs to say the truth, one was quest I couldn't finish and the other was that I got stuck and had to log off and re log to solve it. I did the trial and found the game amazing so I subscribed after that. Yep, I'm enjoying the game so far and plan on playing it till it stops being fun of course.I must say that I love the Conan lore and love the high quality graphics. Others may find the setting boring or would prefer more colorful fantasy themed graphics. To each its own, there are games for every one of us.
So our hateboy finaticd opinions about the game are just that, his opinions. I was told that the game was broken, bugged, devoid of content, empty; I was told that the starting area was worthless, that quests after the starting area were crap, that the end game broken... well, I tried for myself and found otherwise (don't know about the end game yet).
There are fanatics everywhere that try to impose their opinions as the ultimate truth. They are just that, shouting fanatics, and you will find them everywhere, here and in real life. Never mind them. Try the game and form an opinion by yourself, enjoy it and stop playing if/when the game stops being fun.
It is as simple as that.
Played: UO, SWG, TR, WoW, AoC, EvE
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Interested in: JGE, LotR, TSW
All the answers to your questions OP can be found here
forums.ageofconan.com/forumdisplay.php
and
forums.ageofconan.com/forumdisplay.php
Trust me...no one is talking about the high level of polish--lol.
But they are current subscribers-otherwise they couldn't post there. If it sounds like they are about to "jump ship"--I'd agree.
If you look at the details in the world and such I would say AoC beats any game atm. Aion does have nice graphics tho, specially characters and gear is looking good. Some of the world also looks really good, whilst other areas I felt was a bit more rushed. But it wasn't bad. Then Again I do prefer AoC simply because it is low fantasy. Stuff looks more realistic and I prefer that over high fantasy where weapons is 2 times the size of the character etc.
I like the views in AoC alot. The darker, realistic style of AoC works extremely well in potraying a gritty world. The landscapes and music in AoC are superb. I like the reactionary style of combat from AoC as well.
Aion takes alot less of a machine to run due to lack of collision detection thou. Aion is going for a brighter more colorful experience. Aion is a very anime style of graphics. There is alot of flash and bang. Your characters are nearly gods in comparison to the rabble beneath them.
Overall, vladakov is right. From a graphics detail / shading level AoC is the best. That is really not in dispute. Now, the darker gritty realistic style of AoC may not be for everyone. Aion is almost a 180 degree turn in style. Aion is a very bright and colorful world where your character looks greater than human.
I'm curious what you think of the game OP once you get into the free trial. Stop by and let us know what you think of the game, good or bad.
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If you look at the details in the world and such I would say AoC beats any game atm. Aion does have nice graphics tho, specially characters and gear is looking good. Some of the world also looks really good, whilst other areas I felt was a bit more rushed. But it wasn't bad. Then Again I do prefer AoC simply because it is low fantasy. Stuff looks more realistic and I prefer that over high fantasy where weapons is 2 times the size of the character etc.
I like the views in AoC alot. The darker, realistic style of AoC works extremely well in potraying a gritty world. The landscapes and music in AoC are superb. I like the reactionary style of combat from AoC as well.
Aion takes alot less of a machine to run due to lack of collision detection thou. Aion is going for a brighter more colorful experience. Aion is a very anime style of graphics. There is alot of flash and bang. Your characters are nearly gods in comparison to the rabble beneath them.
Overall, vladakov is right. From a graphics detail / shading level AoC is the best. That is really not in dispute. Now, the darker gritty realistic style of AoC may not be for everyone. Aion is almost a 180 degree turn in style. Aion is a very bright and colorful world where your character looks greater than human.
I prefer the dark and gritty world of Hyboria myself. it fits the lore , but could have been darker imo. But the collison detection is sweet. finally a game where you can't run through people
Playing: Battlefield - Bad company (Xbox360) Arma2, DFO (PC)
On my radar: TSW, MO
MMO's played: SWG (pre cu/cu), WoW, AoC, WAR, DFO, Planetside
MMO's that I have tested: Lotro, L2, Aion, Ryzom
If you look at the details in the world and such I would say AoC beats any game atm. Aion does have nice graphics tho, specially characters and gear is looking good. Some of the world also looks really good, whilst other areas I felt was a bit more rushed. But it wasn't bad. Then Again I do prefer AoC simply because it is low fantasy. Stuff looks more realistic and I prefer that over high fantasy where weapons is 2 times the size of the character etc.
I like the views in AoC alot. The darker, realistic style of AoC works extremely well in potraying a gritty world. The landscapes and music in AoC are superb. I like the reactionary style of combat from AoC as well.
Aion takes alot less of a machine to run due to lack of collision detection thou. Aion is going for a brighter more colorful experience. Aion is a very anime style of graphics. There is alot of flash and bang. Your characters are nearly gods in comparison to the rabble beneath them.
Overall, vladakov is right. From a graphics detail / shading level AoC is the best. That is really not in dispute. Now, the darker gritty realistic style of AoC may not be for everyone. Aion is almost a 180 degree turn in style. Aion is a very bright and colorful world where your character looks greater than human.
I prefer the dark and gritty world of Hyboria myself. it fits the lore , but could have been darker imo. But the collison detection is sweet. finally a game where you can't run through people
I agree with this. The lore is what really draws me to this game. If you think it could be darker wait till you see the names of the bosses in the Iron Tower, very super cheesy lame. I laugh at them rather than getting a sense of fear from the name. I think they got them off the garbage pail kids trading cards from the 80s. Ok that's my mini rant.
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Promote what you love instead of bashing what you hate.
If you look at the details in the world and such I would say AoC beats any game atm. Aion does have nice graphics tho, specially characters and gear is looking good. Some of the world also looks really good, whilst other areas I felt was a bit more rushed. But it wasn't bad. Then Again I do prefer AoC simply because it is low fantasy. Stuff looks more realistic and I prefer that over high fantasy where weapons is 2 times the size of the character etc.
I like the views in AoC alot. The darker, realistic style of AoC works extremely well in potraying a gritty world. The landscapes and music in AoC are superb. I like the reactionary style of combat from AoC as well.
Aion takes alot less of a machine to run due to lack of collision detection thou. Aion is going for a brighter more colorful experience. Aion is a very anime style of graphics. There is alot of flash and bang. Your characters are nearly gods in comparison to the rabble beneath them.
Overall, vladakov is right. From a graphics detail / shading level AoC is the best. That is really not in dispute. Now, the darker gritty realistic style of AoC may not be for everyone. Aion is almost a 180 degree turn in style. Aion is a very bright and colorful world where your character looks greater than human.
I prefer the dark and gritty world of Hyboria myself. it fits the lore , but could have been darker imo. But the collison detection is sweet. finally a game where you can't run through people
Yeah, I really like collision detection as well. The only issue with collision detection is the amount of extra work on the computer. This puts running AoC out of the range of non -engineering laptops and older computers. Still, the game runs great and looks great on my Dell XPS at the house. I normally play WoW (now Aion) on the road. I do enjoy both Aion and AoC. Maybe because their graphics styles are so radically different but both are nice to look at in their own way.
Age of Conan is in my opnion a good game. My only gripes would be in that it seems like such a small world compared to other games and far too many quest blocks that end in group quests (I don't like to group much).
The melee combat is a lot more interactive compared to most other games out there. It is a little more involved than pressing skills down a skill bar.
Even with the recent layoffs, i foresee Age of Conan sticking around and getting stronger.
If you look at the details in the world and such I would say AoC beats any game atm. Aion does have nice graphics tho, specially characters and gear is looking good. Some of the world also looks really good, whilst other areas I felt was a bit more rushed. But it wasn't bad. Then Again I do prefer AoC simply because it is low fantasy. Stuff looks more realistic and I prefer that over high fantasy where weapons is 2 times the size of the character etc.
i don´t play AoC, but i did like the `realism´ compared to other games too. the characters in Aion do look highly polished, but in my opinions thats the onyl thing thats really polished in the game
Aion's graphics are good, I PLAY video games...if I wanted something with lackluster gameplay and amazing graphics I would watch a movie. Aion's high poly graphics make the gameplay gutter by creating smaller worlds and issues whith many players in one spot thus requiring instancing. Charecter and PCs look better in Aion, AoC is just to dark. Aion gives much better FPS which is what I care about in PvP. The irony is I now respect gamers, they care more about game play than graphics.
Get real and don't lie to the OP, most people found AoC lacking last year and once again two months ago because of lackluster unpolished gameplay.
The fact you bring up DX 10 in AoC blows my mind as it is unoptomized,,I play games you watch them I see.
Funcom has reviewed all of its assets relevant for
impairment testing. This process has led to
recognition of an impairment loss of around
3,1 MUSD for Age of Conan due to a decrease in
numbers of subscribers for the game. Funcom Q4 10 report.
http://forums.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=2926123&postcount=7 500 mains/alts on Tyranny in past 30 days - instead of merge servers let's open a new PvP server, again! http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=106427
Behold irony at it's best Finaticd telling us to get real and not lie to the original poster.
Playing: Battlefield - Bad company (Xbox360) Arma2, DFO (PC)
On my radar: TSW, MO
MMO's played: SWG (pre cu/cu), WoW, AoC, WAR, DFO, Planetside
MMO's that I have tested: Lotro, L2, Aion, Ryzom
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Really though, I feel like if someone mentioned fallen earth you'd be yelling about how aion has sweet polygons. The guy clearly doesn't want another ezmode. Not that AoC is super innovation, but it is different enough from the other clones to be worth a shot.
To be on topic, I played AoC and really enjoyed it, only quit when a friend did, and i was in JUST before the server merges. I quit due to low pop. If I had joined a month later and was on a high pop server I'd probably still be playing it. They are right the landscape and combat is fun, and its interesting being in a game that isn't cartoon graphics or pedo-anime styles. Not that graphics make the game, there I agree with finaticd, but the Style and overall look does affect my experience at least.
Playing: DO Trial, EVE 1 Day Buy a PLEX promo.
Played: UO, EQ, AC, GW, WoW, CoX, EQ2, AoC, WURM Online, Ryzom, Eve Online, FE Trial
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Really though, I feel like if someone mentioned fallen earth you'd be yelling about how aion has sweet polygons. The guy clearly doesn't want another ezmode. Not that AoC is super innovation, but it is different enough from the other clones to be worth a shot.
To be on topic, I played AoC and really enjoyed it, only quit when a friend did, and i was in JUST before the server merges. I quit due to low pop. If I had joined a month later and was on a high pop server I'd probably still be playing it. They are right the landscape and combat is fun, and its intereesting being in a game that isn't cartoon graphics or pedo-anime styles. Not that graphics make the game, there I agree with finance, but the Style and overall look does affect my experience at least.
Aion is a hard game compared to AoC, much much harder. Aion has a harsh death penalty in both PvP and PvE and the instances are challenging not to mention playing classes are more complex than in AoC do to a combo decision system and bonuses and penalties for the direction you move, so they are harder to use. Hell level 30 group instances are harder than AoC's T1 raids.
My point is Aion and AoC made a lot of the same decisions it is just Aion did them right and polished them and AoC did a bad job and has yet to polish simple stuff liek active block, shields, evasion, the simmon says mini game....Aion has those and has a leg up on AoC because they went a step further and polished them. Hell the #1 praise of AoC aside from graphics is no auto attack....in Aion you have to weave or you getno autoattack.
Time will tell on Aion but we know AoC did a bad job by the low populations and how many players AoC drove off. It is funny how similar these games are it is just Aion polished the game and paid attention to game mechanics and details and AoC didn't, so a year latter AoC's core is rotten.
EDIT: I guess "the game looks good" is in reference to graphics, I took it another way.
Funcom has reviewed all of its assets relevant for
impairment testing. This process has led to
recognition of an impairment loss of around
3,1 MUSD for Age of Conan due to a decrease in
numbers of subscribers for the game. Funcom Q4 10 report.
http://forums.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=2926123&postcount=7 500 mains/alts on Tyranny in past 30 days - instead of merge servers let's open a new PvP server, again! http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=106427
GB2WOW
Really though, I feel like if someone mentioned fallen earth you'd be yelling about how aion has sweet polygons. The guy clearly doesn't want another ezmode. Not that AoC is super innovation, but it is different enough from the other clones to be worth a shot.
To be on topic, I played AoC and really enjoyed it, only quit when a friend did, and i was in JUST before the server merges. I quit due to low pop. If I had joined a month later and was on a high pop server I'd probably still be playing it. They are right the landscape and combat is fun, and its intereesting being in a game that isn't cartoon graphics or pedo-anime styles. Not that graphics make the game, there I agree with finance, but the Style and overall look does affect my experience at least.
Aion is a hard game compared to AoC, much much harder. Aion has a harsh death penalty in both PvP and PvE and the instances are challenging not to mention playing classes are more complex than in AoC do to a combo decision system and bonuses and penalties for the direction you move, so they are harder to use. Hell level 30 group instances are harder than AoC's T1 raids.
My point is Aion and AoC made a lot of the same decisions it is just Aion did them right and polished them and AoC did a bad job and has yet to polish simple stuff liek active block, shields, evasion, the simmon says mini game....Aion has those and has a leg up on AoC because they went a step further and polished them. Hell the #1 praise of AoC aside from graphics is no auto attack....in Aion you have to weave or you getno autoattack.
Time will tell on Aion but we know AoC did a bad job by the low populations and how many players AoC drove off. It is funny how similar these games are it is just Aion polished the game and paid attention to game mechanics and details and AoC didn't, so a year latter AoC's core is rotten.
EDIT: I guess "the game looks good" is in reference to graphics, I took it another way.
Yeah on second thought, I'd agree with a lot of your points. They are both easy games. But yes AoC does have a wimpy death penalty. Don't know about Aion instances so I can't have a valid opinion. But I do have to say the class complexity is a bit off. There is literally 4 classes with slight variation (wanna trade some buffs for heals?) and no talent tree etc to customize other than through interchangeable items later on. How warrior, rogue, mage and healer can compete with classes like Herald of Xolti or Bear Shaman or Tempest of Set, I'm not sure. One of the strengths I saw in AoC was its classes, they were interesting to play out. True you can find similarities in those classes (ToS as a kind of shadowpriest) etc, but the thing is it is less generic than a lot of MMOs out. Still not my game, but the class system I was impressed with.
As for polish, you are right there too, Aion obviously had a more successful launch than AoC. Whether or not all the changes the devs swear by have greatly improved AoC I don't know, so I guess the current situation is another thing I can't have an opinion on.
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Played: UO, EQ, AC, GW, WoW, CoX, EQ2, AoC, WURM Online, Ryzom, Eve Online, FE Trial
Genres: 4x strategy, Sim Racing, American/Euro RPG, Fighters
Haha wow came back to check this after a bit of playing, and wow... what happened?
Loving AoC so far. Aion's visual style to me is like little kid anime stuff, so probably won't try that.
ANYWAY having a good time in the world of Conan. Dark, realistic style (for an MMO), fun combat, even as a spell spamming caster(been trying a few classes haven't decided on any yet, all have been fun tho) and as someone noted, good story line. So far for me anyway, about to get my demonologist done with Tortage. GM's seem great so far, 1 quest bug I ran into was fixed in about a minute. I've yet to run into any glowy armor, bling sword weilding Voltron Power Rangers (WoW haha), which is fantastic, or any character who looks like mine!
As for the title of the thread, I wasn't talking looks as in visual only. I watched trailers, looked at screenshots, read a bit, more like someone looking thru a window. Anyway I wasn't looking for any info about other games. Just AoC and to those who offered that, I thank you.
Another thing I'm happy with is the whole game doesn't seem to revolve around leveling alone, they seem to come pretty fast which is a nice change from what I'm used to. Again, so far, anyway. All that and it seems I'm not ever being forced into a group.
Oversized foam thumbs up.
The wimpy death penalty doesn't bother me at all. For me having to run back, in any MMO was always bad enough. I don't need a harsh penalty to want to stay alive.
Final thing I'm adding for now is to me the game seems to mirror the overall feeling of Conan very much. The "Oh shit!" factor. A place where evryone isn't a god-like superhero and the forces against you actually seem imposing. IF I wanted flash and nonsense I'd go back to City of Heroes.
They came from the sea and they came from the sky, Captain America is going to die!
I have played two chars into their 70's depending on the class AoC can ba a pain, I will admit HoX for me is strait EZ mode I went from 1-60 in no time flat with flame tree maxed out. Though I'll say the ragging aion fanboy on this post sounds to me like someone that played it at launch and hasn't been back sence. Most of the bugs from launch are all gone, a few linger here and there, the end game has a lot more quests and zones and if you join an established guild the pvp has some harsh penalties if you lose a battle keep. It's not exactly compairing apples to apples, more like apples to tangerines or pineapples.
I'll admit I played at launch hated what they did with the game, gave it another go and I liked it, when 1.5 is all done it may be a great game if funcom survives that long. The game itself is a good game, and a great concept funcom just went to narrow with it. if they had made the zones larger and added in most of the countries the game would have been far better in terms of scope. Aside from that if they make it to the expansions release they might salvage the whole ball of wax.