The mmo genre is desperate for some good news right now. People will do and say anything to make people think things are just great when they really aren't. Not so long ago we had a post from the WoW forums stating that Blizzard recovered all of the active Chinese accounts when they reopened in China after the server shutdown. The fact of the matter is that Blizzard has yet to release any statements whatsoever on that matter. Its desperations time, so be prepared for the hype that really doesn't exist.
You are taking a poll from what is basically a biased forum and putting a good spin on it,
Aion source is a good forum but it is a forum that has supported Aion for years,now you may say a good percentage are staying with the game but I would be more alarmed at the amount that are quitting or giving it to the end of the month,I for 1 have been a member there for a long time and will not be subscribing to the game,maybe if you looked at the site and the mood of people that have followed the game there for quite sometime and not just some random poll that most member's will just over look as there seem's to be a poll on that site every 20 mins I could give you some credit,though you seem to have have just grabbed this poll and made a topic on this site through it...don't go over working yourself.
This poll is a non starter..and I have no idea why it has been carried over to this forum.
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
Even if you had concrete usage data from the servers themselves it's way too early to be talking about significant retention. Hell, I'd guess that around 80% of MMO gamers I know would stick around for the initial free month so they didn't feel like they wasted their cash buying the thing.
I'm just kinda bored with the same gameplay over and over. Its not that Aion is bad (its good in many ways). I just want a game that isn't the same exact core mechanic (aka skill progression.. like a new version of UO).
So I"m leaning towards not staying.. but there isn't much else to do atm either.
Ofc the polls results are skewed and dont reflect the real situation. Still, the poll is useful, at the very least it reveals the mood amongst Aionsource users... This is a poll about retention after all, not intent to purchase. And very few people amongst forum users will leave a game without trying to make their opinions known, weve all seen players ragequit to later spend a couple of weeks trolling a games forums. There are people that will even "quit" multiple times through alts.
I congratulate the Aion comunity, hope to join you soon guys.
Just to make things clear... I speak for myself and no one else, unless i state otherwise mine is just an opinion. A fact is something that can be independently verified, you may challenge such but with proof. You have every right to disagree with me through sound argument, i believe in constructive debate, but baseless aggression will warrant an unkind response.
A website devoted to a game, where people who like the game so much that the read the website while at work answer a poll and 60% retention is considered useful information?
Try doing this poll: Ask 200 african american teenaged girls if they're going to buy the next Kanye West album. You'l probably get a 95% "Yes". Therefore the album will sell 4 billion copies.
Classic case of sampling error here. The number is actually quite low. Go over to a WoW fansite and see how many people who post there intend to keep their accounts next month.
I'm just kinda bored with the same gameplay over and over. Its not that Aion is bad (its good in many ways). I just want a game that isn't the same exact core mechanic (aka skill progression.. like a new version of UO).
So I"m leaning towards not staying.. but there isn't much else to do atm either.
I was in the same boat,although since I could not login to Aion or maybe at time's and no will to try,I started to play Fallen Earth,I must it admit this game is not for everyone(you really need to like this sort of game)*note I did not say sandbox but it is damn near it*
I am now having a great time,so I guess every cloud "COULD" have a silver lining.
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
How does a poll on a fan site get on the front page, When in the EU we still have 3 hour + queue time's no customer support, No ingame gm's , No forum gm's, No responce from anyone since launch about the queue's on the eu forums. Nothing And people being billed on there free day's. No word of compensation for this crappy server management .
And mmorpg.com put's a poll of a fan site on the front page GG.
Where was the type of post for Warhammer,AoC,Vanguard...etc etc?
All these game's had polls running on there forum's and for the most part they were no different from this,they had there player's that wanted to stick by there game.
So I ask,why Aion?
I have been a member of a lot of mmo forums and Aion has to be 1 of the worst for poll's and like I said I would not be surprised if most member's seen the "poll" part and just moved on.
Too much bandwidth I guess.
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
Really? MMORPG.com is officially posting a poll from a biased fansite with a disproportionately small response compared to the number of players and touting it as evidence for a high retention rate?
Now I've seen everything. What's next xfire stat posts from Jon as proof and evidence of a games success or failure?
I have seen threads recently on whether mmorpg.com has ruined mmos.....I felt the site was fine, but the amateur and immature forums is what's bad. For some reason, they've decided to start supporting the immature amateurs at the expense of what I used to believe was quality and in-depth articles and information.
This post is evidence for mmorpg shilling for companies rather than frankly discussing their games.
Really? MMORPG.com is officially posting a poll from a biased fansite with a disproportionately small response compared to the number of players and touting it as evidence for a high retention rate? Now I've seen everything. What's next xfire stat posts from Jon as proof and evidence of a games success or failure? I have seen threads recently on whether mmorpg.com has ruined mmos.....I felt the site was fine, but the amateur and immature forums is what's bad. For some reason, they've decided to start supporting the immature amateurs at the expense of what I used to believe was quality and in-depth articles and information. This post is evidence for mmorpg shilling for companies rather than frankly discussing their games. I hope this is an anomoly.
Seems to me they were posting on something they said "hmmm..." to and wondered what we all thought. Not that they were saying the poll was factual or definitive.
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
It goes beyond the 60 percent we see here . A lot of people i know are waiting for the new servers to come online before they return ( due the ques ) . I think it ll be january before we know the true state of the game . Gut instinct tells me it ll be pretty good and may even rival Warcraft in its opening months (in terms of subs in the west) .
It goes beyond the 60 percent we see here . A lot of people i know are waiting for the new servers to come online before they return ( due the ques ) . I think it ll be january before we know the true state of the game . Gut instinct tells me it ll be pretty good and may even rival Warcraft in its opening months (in terms of subs in the west) .
Sorry I think different,they had a chance here but as they always stated they never cared about the northern.
There cash tell was always in the East,I loved the idea of this game and all the beta's and release,though with a few other problem's and then NCsoft's"we wont do anything about the queue's as people will leave" was enough for me.
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
Not really unexpected that this game could easily compete with the likes of World of Warcraft. I mean honestly, great graphics, a great story line, intuitive game play(for the most part), and best of all, leveling doesn't get boring. Also, there is the fact that you can customize your character to an extreme level, which is just icing on the cake. If I did have a copy of the game(financial reasons prevented me from picking up my pre-order), I would certainly renew it month in and month out. World of Warcraft is showing some potential, finally, with the new expansion coming out next year, assuming they don't screw things up again, but Aion is far superior from what I could tell in the beta testing.
Those who say Aion cannot compete with World of Warcraft should just check themselves into a psychiatric hospital. They are just delusional WoW addicts who cannot read the numbers and understand that WoW opened up with similar numbers years ago. Aion is here to stay folks. NCSoft, I usually like, but on some games they get a bit restrictive when they create patches. That happened some on City of Heroes, but the game itself remained overall a great game.
And also, people who already cancelled their account, why would they bother to be on the the aionsource site, they probably disliked the game, so why go to an aion website if you disliked the game anyway? i find this poll NON USEABLE
I stopped going to AionSouce a while ago, right around the time I canceled my account. How right you are.
What I find funny is that I played and never even went to that site lol...and yes I canceled too...
Like a lot of people have said, the kind of people that respond to a poll like this are not a good sample of the overall community. So I'm a little bit skeptical. I think we just have to wait and see what they do about the Q's, Gold farmer spamming, Q's...and ...well the Q's, then in a couple of months we can really see how Aion has done. Hopefully not too many people abandon ship like it's the titanic.
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The mmo genre is desperate for some good news right now. People will do and say anything to make people think things are just great when they really aren't. Not so long ago we had a post from the WoW forums stating that Blizzard recovered all of the active Chinese accounts when they reopened in China after the server shutdown. The fact of the matter is that Blizzard has yet to release any statements whatsoever on that matter. Its desperations time, so be prepared for the hype that really doesn't exist.
What a stupid topic and poll!
You are taking a poll from what is basically a biased forum and putting a good spin on it,
Aion source is a good forum but it is a forum that has supported Aion for years,now you may say a good percentage are staying with the game but I would be more alarmed at the amount that are quitting or giving it to the end of the month,I for 1 have been a member there for a long time and will not be subscribing to the game,maybe if you looked at the site and the mood of people that have followed the game there for quite sometime and not just some random poll that most member's will just over look as there seem's to be a poll on that site every 20 mins I could give you some credit,though you seem to have have just grabbed this poll and made a topic on this site through it...don't go over working yourself.
This poll is a non starter..and I have no idea why it has been carried over to this forum.
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8
Even if you had concrete usage data from the servers themselves it's way too early to be talking about significant retention. Hell, I'd guess that around 80% of MMO gamers I know would stick around for the initial free month so they didn't feel like they wasted their cash buying the thing.
The option I need is...
"I won't know for sure until the time comes".
I'm just kinda bored with the same gameplay over and over. Its not that Aion is bad (its good in many ways). I just want a game that isn't the same exact core mechanic (aka skill progression.. like a new version of UO).
So I"m leaning towards not staying.. but there isn't much else to do atm either.
Ofc the polls results are skewed and dont reflect the real situation. Still, the poll is useful, at the very least it reveals the mood amongst Aionsource users... This is a poll about retention after all, not intent to purchase. And very few people amongst forum users will leave a game without trying to make their opinions known, weve all seen players ragequit to later spend a couple of weeks trolling a games forums. There are people that will even "quit" multiple times through alts.
I congratulate the Aion comunity, hope to join you soon guys.
Just to make things clear...
I speak for myself and no one else, unless i state otherwise mine is just an opinion. A fact is something that can be independently verified, you may challenge such but with proof. You have every right to disagree with me through sound argument, i believe in constructive debate, but baseless aggression will warrant an unkind response.
I plan on staying until they make drastic changes like nerfing my class lol -.-
So let me get this straight.
A website devoted to a game, where people who like the game so much that the read the website while at work answer a poll and 60% retention is considered useful information?
Try doing this poll: Ask 200 african american teenaged girls if they're going to buy the next Kanye West album. You'l probably get a 95% "Yes". Therefore the album will sell 4 billion copies.
Classic case of sampling error here. The number is actually quite low. Go over to a WoW fansite and see how many people who post there intend to keep their accounts next month.
I was in the same boat,although since I could not login to Aion or maybe at time's and no will to try,I started to play Fallen Earth,I must it admit this game is not for everyone(you really need to like this sort of game)*note I did not say sandbox but it is damn near it*
I am now having a great time,so I guess every cloud "COULD" have a silver lining.
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8
Bullshit piece of news to be honest.
How does a poll on a fan site get on the front page, When in the EU we still have 3 hour + queue time's no customer support, No ingame gm's , No forum gm's, No responce from anyone since launch about the queue's on the eu forums. Nothing And people being billed on there free day's. No word of compensation for this crappy server management .
And mmorpg.com put's a poll of a fan site on the front page GG.
Probably not the best place to post an Aion poll, consider 3/4 or even more people on this forum hate any MMORPG that has released recently.
I have a better question for the OP,
Where was the type of post for Warhammer,AoC,Vanguard...etc etc?
All these game's had polls running on there forum's and for the most part they were no different from this,they had there player's that wanted to stick by there game.
So I ask,why Aion?
I have been a member of a lot of mmo forums and Aion has to be 1 of the worst for poll's and like I said I would not be surprised if most member's seen the "poll" part and just moved on.
Too much bandwidth I guess.
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8
Really? MMORPG.com is officially posting a poll from a biased fansite with a disproportionately small response compared to the number of players and touting it as evidence for a high retention rate?
Now I've seen everything. What's next xfire stat posts from Jon as proof and evidence of a games success or failure?
I have seen threads recently on whether mmorpg.com has ruined mmos.....I felt the site was fine, but the amateur and immature forums is what's bad. For some reason, they've decided to start supporting the immature amateurs at the expense of what I used to believe was quality and in-depth articles and information.
This post is evidence for mmorpg shilling for companies rather than frankly discussing their games.
I hope this is an anomoly.
I wouldn't be considering these statistics...
Only hardcore fans are actually going to an unofficial site to chat about the game, of course they aren't cancelling.
Also, why would a person that has cancelled or plans on cancelling be on an Aion fansite...
Statistics = not even close.
Seems to me they were posting on something they said "hmmm..." to and wondered what we all thought. Not that they were saying the poll was factual or definitive.
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
It goes beyond the 60 percent we see here . A lot of people i know are waiting for the new servers to come online before they return ( due the ques ) . I think it ll be january before we know the true state of the game . Gut instinct tells me it ll be pretty good and may even rival Warcraft in its opening months (in terms of subs in the west) .
Sorry I think different,they had a chance here but as they always stated they never cared about the northern.
There cash tell was always in the East,I loved the idea of this game and all the beta's and release,though with a few other problem's and then NCsoft's"we wont do anything about the queue's as people will leave" was enough for me.
If someone had came up to me in 1980 when I was on my Atari 2600 and said we will be playing games with thousands of people at the same time.I guess my response would have been,"but I only have 2 joysticks"
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/235780/page/8
Not really unexpected that this game could easily compete with the likes of World of Warcraft. I mean honestly, great graphics, a great story line, intuitive game play(for the most part), and best of all, leveling doesn't get boring. Also, there is the fact that you can customize your character to an extreme level, which is just icing on the cake. If I did have a copy of the game(financial reasons prevented me from picking up my pre-order), I would certainly renew it month in and month out. World of Warcraft is showing some potential, finally, with the new expansion coming out next year, assuming they don't screw things up again, but Aion is far superior from what I could tell in the beta testing.
Those who say Aion cannot compete with World of Warcraft should just check themselves into a psychiatric hospital. They are just delusional WoW addicts who cannot read the numbers and understand that WoW opened up with similar numbers years ago. Aion is here to stay folks. NCSoft, I usually like, but on some games they get a bit restrictive when they create patches. That happened some on City of Heroes, but the game itself remained overall a great game.
As long as they restrict the Bots & Gold Sellers I will be staying. Those are the only issues that matter to me.
I stopped going to AionSouce a while ago, right around the time I canceled my account. How right you are.
What I find funny is that I played and never even went to that site lol...and yes I canceled too...
derailling gees ,he speak about retention rate
RETENTION rate
And from the rampant gold spamming that aint gonna happen... No MMO is willingly solve that problem. Cost them way too much in subs...
My 60 day game card will go into effect after the first free month. But I would continue subscription after the the first month so I voted yes.
Like a lot of people have said, the kind of people that respond to a poll like this are not a good sample of the overall community. So I'm a little bit skeptical. I think we just have to wait and see what they do about the Q's, Gold farmer spamming, Q's...and ...well the Q's, then in a couple of months we can really see how Aion has done. Hopefully not too many people abandon ship like it's the titanic.
ugghh I expected more from an MMO mod.
How about we wait a little bit before we start talking about retention rate? By little bit i mean atleast 2 months.
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore)
Now Playing: N/A
Worst MMO: FFXIV
Favorite MMO: FFXI