Not to long ago I quit playing Aion, a bunch of my friends tried getting me into the game but once we reached our 30s the grinding took over and most of us turned towards botting. As for me, like I said I decided to leave the game, not just because of the grinding but the whole experience felt like a Final Fantasy game without a soul, plus the community didn't help much considering it seemed it was comprised 40% of WoW players trying to turn the entire game into a barrens chat board, another 40% of botters and gold farmers, and a final 20% that actually liked the game but were willing to delusionally defend the game even when the faults were true.
If you go take a look at the Aion forums right now it's just an endless stream of one group of players complaining about the grind, another group defending the game going so far as to suggest there is none, and a final group of trolls that are just riding them all.
So now that I looked towards the FF14 community, I'm wondering if it'll be different. You might suggest that it's the game that makes the community, but my belief is that it's the community that makes the game.
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I guess in the end I'm just hoping the FF14 community doesn't turn out like Aion, I spent years enjoying this series and I'd hate to see another MMO attempt to turn soar considering today's MMO gamer.
I think your wrong here. The text in the red. The game makes the community. When FFXIV launches I can promise you that the community will be rotten from the start. Everybody flocks to the new game. If ffxiv makes people put effort into it for them to advance it will begin to weed people out.
FFXIV already has a devoted following from the old and and current ffxi fans. So as long as SE doesnt alienate their loyal fans the game will be here to stay for a long time, and IMO thats the a secret to a great community. When an MMO is designed for 3-4 months of playing a community never has time to form properly anyways. When I started FFXI I was seeing the same people for years. Another thing that made the community was the ability to change jobs. Some peoples name were well known because they never had to level an alt. There was people I never said 2 words too but I would see these people all over the places.
The game by far makes the community an in turn the community makes the game better.
I agree. The thing is that a game can create what community is ultimately there via the gameplay. For instance, if they make this more solo based ala wow.. you are going to have people that want to rush to the endgame just so they can get thier phat loots, if they make this more group based... (which i have no doubt that they are) then that tends to filter out the "me me me" players to an extent and usher a more mature community. One like ffxi has.
So yes, in a way a game can make a community.
Though the OP is right as well.... the community can make a worlds difference to a game as well... as in.. i know a few mmos that would be dead right now if it didnt have a nice caring community of friends keeping it alive. No one wants to leave it becuase all thier friends are playing. Though usually in this case its a game that used to be good, derailed due to sweeping changes.. and people dont want to leave friends.
So it could go either way, its just the way you look at it. Heres to hoping this game has a solid backing of mature players.
"Do not fret! Your captain is about to enter Valhalla!" - General Beatrix of Alexandria
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I think your wrong here. The text in the red. The game makes the community. When FFXIV launches I can promise you that the community will be rotten from the start. Everybody flocks to the new game. If ffxiv makes people put effort into it for them to advance it will begin to weed people out.
FFXIV already has a devoted following from the old and and current ffxi fans. So as long as SE doesnt alienate their loyal fans the game will be here to stay for a long time, and IMO thats the a secret to a great community. When an MMO is designed for 3-4 months of playing a community never has time to form properly anyways. When I started FFXI I was seeing the same people for years. Another thing that made the community was the ability to change jobs. Some peoples name were well known because they never had to level an alt. There was people I never said 2 words too but I would see these people all over the places.
The game by far makes the community an in turn the community makes the game better.
I agree. The thing is that a game can create what community is ultimately there via the gameplay. For instance, if they make this more solo based ala wow.. you are going to have people that want to rush to the endgame just so they can get thier phat loots, if they make this more group based... (which i have no doubt that they are) then that tends to filter out the "me me me" players to an extent and usher a more mature community. One like ffxi has.
So yes, in a way a game can make a community.
Though the OP is right as well.... the community can make a worlds difference to a game as well... as in.. i know a few mmos that would be dead right now if it didnt have a nice caring community of friends keeping it alive. No one wants to leave it becuase all thier friends are playing. Though usually in this case its a game that used to be good, derailed due to sweeping changes.. and people dont want to leave friends.
So it could go either way, its just the way you look at it. Heres to hoping this game has a solid backing of mature players.
"Do not fret! Your captain is about to enter Valhalla!" - General Beatrix of Alexandria
"The acquisition of knowledge is of use to the intellect, for nothing can be loved or hated without first being known." - Leo da Vinci