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  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321
    Originally posted by AmazingAvery

    Originally posted by Jackdog

    Originally posted by AmazingAvery


     
    Still has more unique hits here than some other games over the past 6 months I would say the forums here are just fine. I don't know if you noticed the half a dozen troll/alt accounts that were banned in the past couple weeks.


    www.google.com/trends

     

    Google trends data does not support the statement that there is a lot of interest in AOC

     

     



     

    But this website does which is what you was talking about right? Consistently has views just like TTH pulse.

    Views do not equal game, it is all personal preference.

    the Google Trends graphs show 2 things

    the top graph has the number of times people have used Google to search for the term,

    the bottom graph shows number of times the term has ended up in Google news.

    It is pretty obvious looking at the two graphs that Lotro has been used as a search term much more than AoC or Warhammer even though the bottom graph shows that Warhammer and AoC has been in the news more. Draw whatever conclusion soyu want but to me it looks like that many people are just not looking for AoC info on the web, even though AoC has been hyped to high heaven all year long

    I miss DAoC

  • KarmaCry7KarmaCry7 Member Posts: 144

    What is very odd is that I read this entire thread. I might give AoC another try. I'm currently playing WoW, Aion and Champions. I still like WoW when I'm bored, I'm enjoying Aion for now, Champions is ok but I need only 2 good mmos to come back to. It's not about the money, it's just about the time. You can't play them all at once. AoC has been on the bottom of my list for a while but I may just try it again and see if much has improved, if not it's going to hurt my long term opinion of the game.

    I have the right to like what I want!

  • RavingRabbidRavingRabbid Member UncommonPosts: 1,168
    Originally posted by Jaklax


    I've played it all..paid for it all... been back in AOC for a long while now, and this is by far the best exp i've had in an mmo.. if ur not playing AOC your truly missing out.  but your computer can't suck, b/c the graphics in this game are simply awesome.. unless you don't care what it looks like. 



     

    AOC is a good game until you reach level 80. PVP on pve server is horrid and smart system needs to be introduced for Raid boss loot drops.

    (AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Dances with Stygian bar lady)

    All my opinions are just that..opinions. If you like my opinions..coolness.If you dont like my opinion....I really dont care.
    Playing: ESO, WOT, Smite, and Marvel Heroes

  • KarmaCry7KarmaCry7 Member Posts: 144
    Originally posted by RavingRabbid

    Originally posted by Jaklax


    I've played it all..paid for it all... been back in AOC for a long while now, and this is by far the best exp i've had in an mmo.. if ur not playing AOC your truly missing out.  but your computer can't suck, b/c the graphics in this game are simply awesome.. unless you don't care what it looks like. 



     

    AOC is a good game until you reach level 80. PVP on pve server is horrid and smart system needs to be introduced for Raid boss loot drops.

    (AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Dances with Stygian bar lady)



     

    Are you kidding me? How many mmos have you played and reached level 80? I quit AoC at level 24 I believe. War killed it for me at level 21. I'm just hoping AoC can keep me coming back as I was certain I would never play the game again when I quit. It looks like they made a lot of positive strides and I want to see how good it's gotten. This thread got my attention but the specifics are not there. Someone tell me why I should play this game again and be honest this time. Keep in mind, I'm honestly thinking about re-subscribing and I don't want to hear any fan BS on how it's better than WoW.  

    I have the right to like what I want!

  • minitarominitaro Member Posts: 42

     

     

    KarmaCry7, perhaps it would help if you explain why you left the game in the first place.  Most bugs have been fixed and the game is much more stable, and a lot of content has been added as well.  However, that does not necessarily mean you will enjoy the game any more the second time around.

  • finaticdfinaticd Member Posts: 843

    @ the forum traffic discussion:

    According to this site www.xfire.com/games/aoc/Age_of_Conan_Hyborian_Adventures/ there is not enough players online to do anything, spo maybe they come to the forums to recruit more players. Those types that come to forum don't realize that AOC has verry little to do.

    Funcom has reviewed all of its assets relevant for
    impairment testing. This process has led to
    recognition of an impairment loss of around
    3,1 MUSD for Age of Conan due to a decrease in
    numbers of subscribers for the game. Funcom Q4 10 report.
    http://forums.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=2926123&postcount=7 500 mains/alts on Tyranny in past 30 days - instead of merge servers let's open a new PvP server, again! http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=106427

  • LordBonezyLordBonezy Member Posts: 254
    Originally posted by KarmaCry7

    Originally posted by RavingRabbid

    Originally posted by Jaklax


    I've played it all..paid for it all... been back in AOC for a long while now, and this is by far the best exp i've had in an mmo.. if ur not playing AOC your truly missing out.  but your computer can't suck, b/c the graphics in this game are simply awesome.. unless you don't care what it looks like. 



     

    AOC is a good game until you reach level 80. PVP on pve server is horrid and smart system needs to be introduced for Raid boss loot drops.

    (AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Dances with Stygian bar lady)



     

    Are you kidding me? How many mmos have you played and reached level 80? I quit AoC at level 24 I believe. War killed it for me at level 21. I'm just hoping AoC can keep me coming back as I was certain I would never play the game again when I quit. It looks like they made a lot of positive strides and I want to see how good it's gotten. This thread got my attention but the specifics are not there. Someone tell me why I should play this game again and be honest this time. Keep in mind, I'm honestly thinking about re-subscribing and I don't want to hear any fan BS on how it's better than WoW.  

    -There are a few selling points. The game looks great. DX9 runs really good on even older hardware but newer stuff look pretty good. DX10 not so smooth and not so easy to get going as DX9 and doesn't really offer much in the way of earthshattering visuals.

    -Stability for the majority of the game (save sieges) is fixed. But this is due in large part to the fact that memory leaks were fixed after launch and not an issue 3-6 months after lauch which was about a year ago, and the fact that 96% of people who tried AOC don't play there anymore. Balanced statement. Sieges crash when casters are involved, since about 1/4 of the playebase is a caster this is a problem.

    -Free trials, and new content, nothing to really tidy up unpolished areas earlier but its new stuff which shows the dev team can not only fix mistakes as years go but create new things, as their title indicated developer.

    If you can get past all the negatives which I'll summarize then go for it.

    -Busted Sieges

    -DX10 still beta

    -No Guild Management

    -Instancing

    -Low populations

    -Imploding servers

    -Dying Playerbase

    -Slow updates

    -Lack of depth

    -Limited Role playing support

    -Concept which is poorly implemented in a lot of areas

    -Hundreds of player suggestions made and continued to be made from launch ignored by the devs in favor of what CM thinks the game needs.

    -Class imblanced (Wa wa wa)

    -PVP consequence-less system

    -Limited number of things to do at endgame 80, raid which is awesome for the first 5 times you do it then boring as hell, borked sieges which crash 1/3-2/3 the time a year and a half after launch, harvest with a lame and adventure free harvesting system, pvp with a broken pvp system.

    Hmmm yea thats all I got

  • UbieUbie Member Posts: 185
    Originally posted by LordBonezy


    Which is why 96% of players who have played AOC don't play anymore, that personal preference that the game is either
    A. Donkey Ball Suckage.
    B. Not as good as they though it would be.
    C. Not as good at something, anything else.
    D. Not good enough for a subscription.
     
    Personally I'd like to see the pace of updating dramatically improved, and the amount of feature implements to quadruple. But that is not going to happen to I wont pay for it. Google trends has the game nailed on the head, shows exactly what Alexa shows too, basically with Google Trends you also see that the game has had several spiked with increased news references, some about half as strong as launch. However search volume continued to decline, because they have saturated the market.
    The reason they don't have new subscribers flooding in is 3 fold.
    1. Their past which is disgusting and awful, a dreadful selling point to anybody informed, which is basically the entire MMO market and most of the video game market in general.
    2. Their actual game, if it were so good free trials would be attracting the masses and giving the game the boost it needs and stimulating positive word of mouth not shill advertising or die-hards like you Avery who will never be critical of this game to the point it needs to be heard and understood.
    3. The pace of what they are doing to improve the situation. They haven't fired their marketing staff, or stopped their shill operation, they haven't really made a serious effort to do what the community wants or this game wouldn't have problem #2. If they also had stopped all their shitty marketing practices and sold this game for what it is, instead of the hype machine and driving up all the excitement for these features which are always more than 2 months away, potential subscribers would be much more inclined to jump on board.
     
    Nope, this game is done. Age of Conan is about to be replaced by Age of anything else but. Server implosions are right around the corner and with those there will be another exodus of players, or a move to free to play. Its over guys, Conan lost.

    I would have to say "D.". AoC isn't even in the top 10 mmos on the market, much less the "best". AoC has shown alot of technical improvement since launch but suffers from poor developers/management and a low population, not to mention its reputation. In my case, I just cant see paying $15 month when there are so many other MMOs out there that are IMO better. I believe a FTP model would at least bring the server populations to a enjoyable lvl.

  • nihcenihce Member Posts: 539

     Hmm imho it is best - but only because of kickass melee combo system which is something new and everyone who is not a motorical idiot should IMHO love it. Content on the other side ... lack of content will kill this game. 1.06 is still not on test server. Given they have 3 months for test server update to make it live - I am seriously doubting before Christmas. And ... that is 2 late

  • KarmaCry7KarmaCry7 Member Posts: 144

    If they made the subscribtion a bit lower or included a $20 tri-monthly package, I would consider coming back today.

    I have the right to like what I want!

  • jaxsundanejaxsundane Member Posts: 2,776
    Originally posted by Jaklax


     I don't consider wow's content anything spectacular, because everything in the game has the exact same feeling.. when your trying to progress towards the reward.  It's all "Sigh* lets get it over with"



    let me stop it right there.. don't wanna turn this into a anti-wow thread.



     

    I've only gotten to the end of the first page so far but am surprised you didn't get alot of AOC/FC bashing having said that I think you have every right to your opinion and I won't really try to debate it accept to say alot of it is either subjective or opinion based.  Subjective in that graphically for myself it is not of high importance to play the game that may be recognized as having the best graphics out there, just like everyone else I assume I do have a treshold that I will not go below but at the same time my reach doesn't have to be very high.  Content wise I think it is a feeling you get that is dependant upon lot's of other circumstances, you mentioned wow a few times and ironically I didn't find questing in wow to be the bore you did I saw it more like you see AOC, I read the quests and tried to involve my own characters experience in the lore.  But again this is just your opinion on things and one you are definitely entitled to.

      Generally I look behind the scenes of things especially when it comes to something as "production" based as video games and as FC has a bad track record I am generally of the mind that I won't buy an FC game but I'm certainly not all "let's run them out of town" if in the end they can make a game that a community can form around I say good for them and the players but for my money FC is going to have to release two games without all the problems that have plagued them with the other two.

    but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....

  • JaklaxJaklax Member Posts: 52
    Originally posted by finaticd


    @ the forum traffic discussion:
    According to this site www.xfire.com/games/aoc/Age_of_Conan_Hyborian_Adventures/ there is not enough players online to do anything, spo maybe they come to the forums to recruit more players. Those types that come to forum don't realize that AOC has verry little to do.

    Def no shortage of players on my server.. never an issue finding groups or even walking 10ft without running into another player

  • BarteauxBarteaux Member Posts: 483

    Age of Conan is the best MMO out now.

     

    The botched launch made this game the hate object of many players, and hence they want it to fail.

     

     

    "nerf rock, paper is working as intended."

    - Scissors.


    Head Chop

  • finaticdfinaticd Member Posts: 843
    Originally posted by Barteaux


    Age of Conan is the best MMO out now.
     
    The botched launch made this game the hate object of many players, and hence they want it to fail.
     
     

     

    First of all that is false, second of all if you keep spamming that...Funcom's credibility will go from 1% back down to 0 percent. Care to explain why so many came back for free trials then did not resub? The population dropped 66% or something unreal.

    Also, the reason why anyone would see many players is they are at lvl cap and there is only 1 small zone for all of them. Pick any other MMO and will probably have a better end game.

    Now do you really want Funcom launching the expansion and TSW WIth zero percent credibility? THey lost 33 million on AOC< just imagine how much they will lose when players don't believe FC's lies and don't buy the box to beta test those games for two years.

    Funcom has reviewed all of its assets relevant for
    impairment testing. This process has led to
    recognition of an impairment loss of around
    3,1 MUSD for Age of Conan due to a decrease in
    numbers of subscribers for the game. Funcom Q4 10 report.
    http://forums.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=2926123&postcount=7 500 mains/alts on Tyranny in past 30 days - instead of merge servers let's open a new PvP server, again! http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=106427

  • RdlabanRdlaban Member UncommonPosts: 396
    Originally posted by Barteaux


    Age of Conan is the best MMO out now.
     
    The botched launch made this game the hate object of many players, and hence they want it to fail.
     
     

     

    Of top of my head: Finaticd and Blackwell99 who is hyperactive haters on this forum. If you ignore those two you will get a completly different view of how this forums see this game...

     

     

  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321
    Originally posted by Rdlaban

    Originally posted by Barteaux


    Age of Conan is the best MMO out now.
     
    The botched launch made this game the hate object of many players, and hence they want it to fail.
     
     

     

    Of top of my head: Finaticd and Blackwell99 who is hyperactive haters on this forum. If you ignore those two you will get a completly different view of how this forums see this game...

     

     

    2 hyperactive haters compared to how many hyperactive fanbois who have been swearing since release that the game is perfect and has no flaws ?

     

     

    I miss DAoC

  • RdlabanRdlaban Member UncommonPosts: 396
    Originally posted by Jackdog

    Originally posted by Rdlaban

    Originally posted by Barteaux


    Age of Conan is the best MMO out now.
     
    The botched launch made this game the hate object of many players, and hence they want it to fail.
     
     

     

    Of top of my head: Finaticd and Blackwell99 who is hyperactive haters on this forum. If you ignore those two you will get a completly different view of how this forums see this game...

     

     

    2 hyperactive haters compared to how many hyperactive fanbois who have been swearing since release that the game is perfect and has no flaws ?

     

     

     

    Only you that I can think of Jackdog:)

  • Blackwell99Blackwell99 Member Posts: 352
    Originally posted by Rdlaban

    Originally posted by Barteaux


    Age of Conan is the best MMO out now.
     
    The botched launch made this game the hate object of many players, and hence they want it to fail.
     
     

     

    Of top of my head: Finaticd and Blackwell99 who is hyperactive haters on this forum. If you ignore those two you will get a completly different view of how this forums see this game...

     

     

    I think the best place for someone to get their info is on AoC's forums. Let them see for themselves the legions of unsatisfied players:  forums.ageofconan.com/forumdisplay.php

    Because here, us "haters" are the only thing between legitimate shoppers (who actually want to know if the game sucks) and the never-ending parade of Viral Marketers. Which has been stated by Funcom as part of their marketing program in their most recent quarterly,

    I know some would rather not have anyone here telling the truth about how the game has de-evolved since Craig Morrison has "hit" the scene. Or how the game is on a the fast-track to F2P. Nevermind the anemic population--everyone (especially FC) is tight lipped about that.

    Instead you'd rather suggest that the game doesn't have any game breaking issues, and that everything is great in AoC's current state. Meanwhile the game has actually de-evolved...which is to say....a poorly designed game...has actually become more poorly designed (incredible isn't it?). As reflected here:forums.ageofconan.com/forumdisplay.php (Choose any thread and read--whose arguments do they back up?)

    Sorry if honesty clashes with anyone's agenda.

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by Jackdog

    Originally posted by Rdlaban

    Originally posted by Barteaux


    Age of Conan is the best MMO out now.
     
    The botched launch made this game the hate object of many players, and hence they want it to fail.
     
     

     

    Of top of my head: Finaticd and Blackwell99 who is hyperactive haters on this forum. If you ignore those two you will get a completly different view of how this forums see this game...

     

     

    2 hyperactive haters compared to how many hyperactive fanbois who have been swearing since release that the game is perfect and has no flaws ?

     

     

    In all the time I've browsed this forum (since aoc's launch), I have never seen a person claim anything remotely similar to what you just said.

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321
    Originally posted by Malickie

    Originally posted by Jackdog

    Originally posted by Rdlaban

    Originally posted by Barteaux


    Age of Conan is the best MMO out now.
     
    The botched launch made this game the hate object of many players, and hence they want it to fail.
     
     

     

    Of top of my head: Finaticd and Blackwell99 who is hyperactive haters on this forum. If you ignore those two you will get a completly different view of how this forums see this game...

     

     

    2 hyperactive haters compared to how many hyperactive fanbois who have been swearing since release that the game is perfect and has no flaws ?

     

     

    In all the time I've browsed this forum (since aoc's launch), I have never seen a person claim anything remotely similar to what you just said.

    oh I think we all know better than that, if memory serves correct though at AoC's launch you were still a SWG fan. However there is at least one has never posted a critical thing about AoC or did anything except make excuses no matter what FC did since pre launch and several other posters who have done nothing but praise AoC since their first post. So yes, there is plenty of balance between troll and fanboy

    I miss DAoC

  • SevenwindSevenwind Member UncommonPosts: 2,188
    Originally posted by Jaklax

    Originally posted by finaticd


    @ the forum traffic discussion:
    According to this site www.xfire.com/games/aoc/Age_of_Conan_Hyborian_Adventures/ there is not enough players online to do anything, spo maybe they come to the forums to recruit more players. Those types that come to forum don't realize that AOC has verry little to do.

    Def no shortage of players on my server.. never an issue finding groups or even walking 10ft without running into another player



     

    I don't have any problems either, but we both play the game and the other person likes to pull xfire numbers like they mean something since they don't play the game.

    I don't even use xfire anymore. I need to take it out of my sig.

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  • Originally posted by finaticd
    @ the forum traffic discussion:
    According to this site www.xfire.com/games/aoc/Age_of_Conan_Hyborian_Adventures/ there is not enough players online to do anything, spo maybe they come to the forums to recruit more players. Those types that come to forum don't realize that AOC has verry little to do.

    My God ... do you live and die by that crappy X Fire? Do you have stock in them or something. Maybe one of their dev's?


    Anyone who actually bases anything off those numbers and really believes they tell anyone anything except what X fire people do is ... nevermind. The world needs idiots too just to make everyone else feel better.

  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321

    what is really amusing is that when AoC had it's XFire contest and AoC shot back into the mid 20's, the same people trashing the XFire in this thread were hyping AoC's XFire numbers to high heaven  LOL

     

    but then you don't really need XFire to know that AoC is pretty much breathing it's final gasps, just DL the free trial and see for yourself

    I miss DAoC

  • RdlabanRdlaban Member UncommonPosts: 396
    Originally posted by Jackdog


    what is really amusing is that when AoC had it's XFire contest and AoC shot back into the mid 20's, the same people trashing the XFire in this thread were hyping AoC's XFire numbers to high heaven  LOL
     
    but then you don't really need XFire to know that AoC is pretty much breathing it's final gasps, just DL the free trial and see for yourself

    Please Jackdog go through the posters history and see if you can find something to support your statement. 

    Or did the air just leave the balloon?

  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321
    Originally posted by Rdlaban

    Originally posted by Jackdog


    what is really amusing is that when AoC had it's XFire contest and AoC shot back into the mid 20's, the same people trashing the XFire in this thread were hyping AoC's XFire numbers to high heaven  LOL
     
    but then you don't really need XFire to know that AoC is pretty much breathing it's final gasps, just DL the free trial and see for yourself

    Please Jackdog go through the posters history and see if you can find something to support your statement. 

    Or did the air just leave the balloon?

    like I am really going to sit here and scroll back through 3 months of posts so I can win a internet argument.... dont think so

    I miss DAoC

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