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Starting Darkfall. Any Tips?

garbonzogarbonzo Member Posts: 260

I'm downloading the Darkfall client now (NA).  Do any current players have some tips to ease me into the first week?  I've read the forums and I'm prepared for some struggle early on, but no worries.

I tend to solo in a new game for a while and join a guild once I get my feet on the ground, but it seems that might be a tougher road in DF.  Any thoughts on staying alive solo, or should I really give that up and jump in with a guild?  I've read archery is good to level for hunting mobs.  Any other key skills to focus on?  Will the coming patch change what I should be doing at the start? 

And please, I'm not looking for discussion about how good or bad DF is - there are plenty of those threads and I've already decided to try it.  I'd like to keep it to people actually playing with constructive advice.

Thanks!

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  • tensspottingtensspotting Member Posts: 179

     Yea 

     

    Bank often

     

    Good luck!

  • vladakovvladakov Member Posts: 710

     hey, i had it hard when i started to, best thing to do is find someone social and ask him, like i did :P,

     

    it has a HUGE  learning curve, just hang on and youll get used to it and you might have loads of fun, when you die, you loose EVERYTHING,  so go to a capitol or other bank ofter to store gold/materials (for starters :) )  in the begin its really hard, taking on multiple enemies at once, just need to get the hang of it for a bit.  if you wanto get a good weapon, i went to a capital town and bought an expensive one, REALLY usefull both in pve and pvp :)). quests will help/explain a bit but not much,  hope you enjoy :)

     

    regards, vlad

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  • CecropiaCecropia Member RarePosts: 3,985

    I've been playing for a few weeks now, and I'm still solo. I also prefer to start mmos like this to at least become knowledgeable and half decent at the game. Havn't gotten bored at all as I kill mobs all over the place, and I do a fair bit of crafting.

    Don't mess around near the starter cities too long, you'll be ganked far too often. Once your capable of comfortably killing 2 or 3 goblins at a time, I'd move on. I use the Darkfall map from this site, it's been helpful.

    www.afraidyet.net/forums/misc.php

    I use a mix of archery and melee on the mobs. Definitely heavier on the archery side.

    Someone else would be better qualified to give you a heads up on the expansion.

    "Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb

  • garbonzogarbonzo Member Posts: 260

    Thanks a lot, guys.  Sounds like the bank is your best friend haha.  So do you lose everything when anything kills you or just a player who loots your tombstone?  Can they literally leave you in underwear with absolutely nothing?  I assume this means no binding on items, or do people just take bound items and vendor them?  Yeah, I'm looking forward to the fear of death - makes you play harder & smarter.   

  • CecropiaCecropia Member RarePosts: 3,985
    Originally posted by garbonzo


    Thanks a lot, guys.  Sounds like the bank is your best friend haha.  So do you lose everything when anything kills you or just a player who loots your tombstone?  Can they literally leave you in underwear with absolutely nothing?  I assume this means no binding on items, or do people just take bound items and vendor them?  Yeah, I'm looking forward to the fear of death - makes you play harder & smarter.   



     

    Bank as much as you can for sure.

    Yes anything you are wearing and anything in your backpack are fair game. With the exception of your starting weapon(s). You can have up to 3 starter weapons which do not receive damage, but they do not increase your skills with that weapon group.

    The fear and sweaty palms are what this game is all about. Very few games I've played can do this.

    Edit: Spelling.

    "Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb

  • GrubbsGradyGrubbsGrady Member UncommonPosts: 371

    hey man, send me a tell in game. /tell Harkat Mulds, I'll give you some tips and point you in some of the right directions :D

  • garbonzogarbonzo Member Posts: 260

    Yeah I'm getting excited, but my torrent says I've got 10.5 hours to go...

    Grubbs, I'll definitely send you a tell.  Thanks! 

  • JupstoJupsto Member UncommonPosts: 2,075

    yeah start of the game is very tough. in alliance chat theres the usual stupid spam but people do help out noobs, I know I answer alot of questions in game. don't know how helpful chat is for "evil" races.

    goodluck. my pro noob tip is: go to race capital and get title quests as well as standard ones. they will passively earn you a fair bit of money. ie. quest to kill 300 goblins will take you a while but you get 2k gold and + str.

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  • nAAtimusnAAtimus Member Posts: 342

    Use the terrain and environment to your advantage.  This is critical for ambushes and escapes.

    I'm not here to complete my forum PVP dailies.

  • RespitRespit Member Posts: 770

    A months supply of Tuck's will help.

     

    Other than that, I would find myself a clan before you even fire Darkfall up. Or at least before you start playing seriously.

     

    Good luck.

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  • ellobo29ellobo29 Member UncommonPosts: 423

    tips of survival.

    when hanging around the starter towns for gathering/pve and such always do the following.

    1. bank often

    2. when spending a period of time in one particular place, (killing goblins, gathering ores) always be aware of ur surroudings. think too your self "if i was hunting me, where would i attack from? what is a good escape route? quickest way to get under the protection of a guard tower ect...

    3. when on foot always ALWAYS carry a sword and shield and hotbar them for eazy access for going defencive in a hurry

    4.dont gather or sprint till ur out of stam, go till half stam then rest.

    5. dont get too pissed off when u die lol......there will be days when you will want to quit, but stick it out and you will have victories that will make it all worth while.

    6. putting a mount or 3 in ur hotbar will save your life

    7. carry a bow when ever possible, just the sound of a bow knocking will often sent mounted players running

    8. when ever your getting jumped by a couple players on mounts get too high ground like a rock or something, where u have the advantage. and remember.....mounts cant turn for crap, its ez just too out manuver them and bow them down

  • HotjazzHotjazz Member UncommonPosts: 742
    Originally posted by garbonzo


    Do any current players have some tips to ease me into the first week? 

     

    -Buy the bowyer skill with the first money you get. You can make your own arrows.

     

    -Buy the stamina to health skill as soon as you can afford it. Buy some mandrake and use that skill as your main healing spell. That skill is fast and will save you far more than the slow heal self spell.

     

    -Use the player made maps over the mob and city locations.

     

    -When you are going to join a guild, chose a guild with a city and members. Look at the guild forum in darkfallonline.com .

     

    - Eat often. Eat food when you know you will take damage from mobs. It's a hot and you will have less downtime.

     

    -Harvest when you are not activly playing. You can harvest in safezones around every city.

     

    -Ask in racechat if someone have some spare low level things for a new player.

  • eroxzoreroxzor Member Posts: 8

    Join an established clan with a decent sized alliance.  Don't lose to much heart when you die and lose your loot, because you'll never lose the skills you gained while fighting stuff.

    It's FFA PvP, always watch your back, and seriously join a clan.

  • garbonzogarbonzo Member Posts: 260

    Ok I started.  Thanks for all of the great pointers.  Yeah...bank often.  I've only had one supreme ganking so far, but I was pretty loaded down with loot for a noob - set me back an hour.  

    The UI is still a little confusing.  Can you really not just use a skill directly from your hotbar?  I have to stop what I'm doing, disarm, select the skill, then left click to use it.  Seems pretty cumbersome but I guess if everyone has to do it that way it's a level playing field.  I'm just wondering how a spell-leaning player uses more than one spell.  Do you have to change spells like this?  Incidentally I haven't been able to get a spell to cast - only rest and return to my binding spot.  I'll figure it out, but yeah there's no oxygen at the top of this learning curve..

    Here's another quick question: I started playing with harvesting - wood.  I got a wood cutting axe and I've whacked about 15 trees 3-4 times each but each time it says the woodcutting failed.  Is this just the noob skill-up phase and it will work eventually? It started to get a little ridiculous.  I mean, what idiot can't get at least a little usable wood with an axe even with no experience.  If my character is that incompetent, he should be missing fingers or a leg at this point.  

  • Njai15Njai15 Member Posts: 114

    You get Magic Missle and Heal Self which are in the spells tab, not skills tab. And yes you can put these on a hotbar and cast them. And spells you can switch to with your wand out right after you cast another spell. As long as that spell isnt on cooldown. And oh yeah I'm a noob too, but with magic missle try to aim for the feet to get splash damage. Lot easier then trying to hit their bodies.

     

    Edit: About the wood thing yes there would be a lot of failures during skill up. But make sure it doesn't say you are unable to get any wood from this tree which means the tree is depeleted.

  • ste2000ste2000 Member EpicPosts: 6,194
    Originally posted by garbonzo


    I'm downloading the Darkfall client now (NA).  Do any current players have some tips to ease me into the first week?  I've read the forums and I'm prepared for some struggle early on, but no worries.
    I tend to solo in a new game for a while and join a guild once I get my feet on the ground, but it seems that might be a tougher road in DF.  Any thoughts on staying alive solo, or should I really give that up and jump in with a guild?  I've read archery is good to level for hunting mobs.  Any other key skills to focus on?  Will the coming patch change what I should be doing at the start? 
    And please, I'm not looking for discussion about how good or bad DF is - there are plenty of those threads and I've already decided to try it.  I'd like to keep it to people actually playing with constructive advice.
    Thanks!

     

    You can play solo, but it is not as enjoyable as being part of a guild.

    In fact by playing solo gives you more chances to survive, in a strange kinda way.



    First of all you won't be attacked on sight by an enemy guild, secondly no one can attack you in a city unless you are part of a guild in which case an opposite guild can attack you without consequences.

    Just stick around the cities and bank often and you can get through the first couple of months.



    After that is better you join a guild, the game becomes so much fun, not just for the raids and sieges but the politics involved.



    At the moment magic is all the rage, but it will be nerfed after the next expansion, so just do whatever you like...........that's the selling point of Darkfall after all.

  • ChinaCatChinaCat Member UncommonPosts: 670
    Originally posted by garbonzo


    Ok I started.  Thanks for all of the great pointers.  Yeah...bank often.  I've only had one supreme ganking so far, but I was pretty loaded down with loot for a noob - set me back an hour.  
    The UI is still a little confusing.  Can you really not just use a skill directly from your hotbar?  I have to stop what I'm doing, disarm, select the skill, then left click to use it.  Seems pretty cumbersome but I guess if everyone has to do it that way it's a level playing field.  I'm just wondering how a spell-leaning player uses more than one spell.  Do you have to change spells like this?  Incidentally I haven't been able to get a spell to cast - only rest and return to my binding spot.  I'll figure it out, but yeah there's no oxygen at the top of this learning curve..
    Here's another quick question: I started playing with harvesting - wood.  I got a wood cutting axe and I've whacked about 15 trees 3-4 times each but each time it says the woodcutting failed.  Is this just the noob skill-up phase and it will work eventually? It started to get a little ridiculous.  I mean, what idiot can't get at least a little usable wood with an axe even with no experience.  If my character is that incompetent, he should be missing fingers or a leg at this point.  



     

    The UI as initially configured is terrible, but you can fix it.    Open options and take the  time to become familiar with the many things you can rebind and gain far more control over.      For example, because "Shfit" is the default "run" key, I changed all the Hot Bars to "Cntrl -1, 2, etc"; then to use what is in any of the 1 to 0 slots I use the 1-0 keys for Tab 1, F1 - F10 for Tab 2, Alt 1 to Alt 10 for Tab 3, get the idea ?       Spend all the time necessary to make the UI work for you.  It's well worth it and will make the game significantly more fun.    The options are there to accomplish this, but you need to take the time to learn it and do it.

    Failed messages should be normal noob skill up phase as you think.   When a resource is depleted, it will say so.

    If you can share what race you rolled, I may be able to give you some advice specific to that part of the game world.

    With regard to message boards, try to totally ignore the trolls.   It will keep you sane and annoy the daylights out of them -)

    Good luck -CC

    "Lately it occurs to me,
    what a long, strange trip it's been". -Hunter

  • tensspottingtensspotting Member Posts: 179

     The Darkfall forums are as unforgiving as it's ingame experience...there is none like it...

  • eroxzoreroxzor Member Posts: 8
    Originally posted by garbonzo


    Ok I started.  Thanks for all of the great pointers.  Yeah...bank often.  I've only had one supreme ganking so far, but I was pretty loaded down with loot for a noob - set me back an hour.  
    The UI is still a little confusing.  Can you really not just use a skill directly from your hotbar?  I have to stop what I'm doing, disarm, select the skill, then left click to use it.  Seems pretty cumbersome but I guess if everyone has to do it that way it's a level playing field.  I'm just wondering how a spell-leaning player uses more than one spell.  Do you have to change spells like this?  Incidentally I haven't been able to get a spell to cast - only rest and return to my binding spot.  I'll figure it out, but yeah there's no oxygen at the top of this learning curve..
    Here's another quick question: I started playing with harvesting - wood.  I got a wood cutting axe and I've whacked about 15 trees 3-4 times each but each time it says the woodcutting failed.  Is this just the noob skill-up phase and it will work eventually? It started to get a little ridiculous.  I mean, what idiot can't get at least a little usable wood with an axe even with no experience.  If my character is that incompetent, he should be missing fingers or a leg at this point.  

    Honestly the noob loot you get in the first hour of play is nothing compared to the loot you get after playing for a month or so.  Again, don't worry too much about losing it.

    Yea, the UI is unique. It grows on you eventually; I suggest clicking on the options button from the main menu and going to input bindings.  There you can map/re-map pretty much any action you need to in-game ( or you can use /bind [key] [action] ie: /bind left_shit a_Sprint or /bind numpad0 Gui_Hotbar_Col_0_Row_0). I usually have food and pots bound to my number pad so you can use 'em without switching hotbars.

    To cast a spell, you need to equip your staff, press 'r' to ready it, then pick the spell you want from the hotbar.  Then just aim, and left click to cast it.

    Ya, you'll fail a lot at harvesting during with low skill.  But every time you whack that tree, you're gaining Strength and Vitality; plus you're getting better at harvesting.  After a long enough time, you'll be able to drain a node entirely without needing to rest.  I suggest busting out a movie or something while you harvest, or cleaning all the beer cans piled on your desk.

  • garbonzogarbonzo Member Posts: 260

     I'm using all of these suggestions.  HUGE help.  Thanks!

    Here's another question.  Is there a way to go ahead and port back to your bind spot when you're dead instead of waiting for that timer to run down?

    I'm a human starting in Heart of Eanna, btw. 

  • xpiherxpiher Member UncommonPosts: 3,310
    Originally posted by garbonzo


     I'm using all of these suggestions.  HUGE help.  Thanks!
    Here's another question.  Is there a way to go ahead and port back to your bind spot when you're dead instead of waiting for that timer to run down?
    I'm a human starting in Heart of Eanna, btw. 

     

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  • ChinaCatChinaCat Member UncommonPosts: 670
    Originally posted by garbonzo


     I'm using all of these suggestions.  HUGE help.  Thanks!
    Here's another question.  Is there a way to go ahead and port back to your bind spot when you're dead instead of waiting for that timer to run down?
    I'm a human starting in Heart of Eanna, btw. 



     

    If you have another computer, or can attend macro on the one you have while doing some work or whatever, I strongly suggest you gather herbs to obtain Steedgrass.     A stash of steedgrass and the skill to make mounts will give you a lot more freedom, and ease the sting of losing a mount    Also, if you drag a mount to one of your hot bar slots, go to options in the GUI and assign a specific hotkey just for the mount so you can spawn it at a moments desire; great for getting away when so desired.

    With a supply of mounts, as a human, you have a huge area of the map to explore with the ability to bind and live in any of the Human, Dorf or Elf cities.        As you've discovered, the noob areas suck, but if you explore you can find some spawns you can handle but are not frequented regularly and will provide you the opportunity to skill up and get some coin/items.   Don't be greedy.   Once you have a decent haul, spawn your mount and head back to a bank; rinse repeat.  

    The game world is beautiful and each area has its own feel and many cool spawns and spots you can have more control over.      Whether your goal is bow or not, it is an excellent way to start off, because it allows you to kite and kill mobs you'd otherwise get ripped apart from in melee.     Fish and cook.    You should always have a food buff on so you can regen faster.

    I understand the desire in the beginning to save coin to train, but unless you can obtain arrows and basics in other ways, I'd put my first coin in to crafting skills allowing me to make my own arrows, bows, mounts and weapons.    No need to get them very high, but having them as a noob will make your ability to hunt much easier and the sting of losing stuff if ganked much less of a factor.     It's an investment, but a wise one IMO.

    Cheers -CC

    "Lately it occurs to me,
    what a long, strange trip it's been". -Hunter

  • youngkgyoungkg Member UncommonPosts: 357

    Practice stealth.....whenever im solo or with my friend we always have the same reaction when we hear others in perimeter....we get Low and in a hurry....remember that in DF when you crouch move u make no noise so best bet is to get low and stake out the situation that way before you haul ass you can see if you really even need to do so...you may find that the odds are in your favor but if they arnt get low and make no noise...theres a good chance that if you heard him in time he will just pass buy if your not detected and even if he heard you he will probably keep moving in search of noise to give your position away...

  • nondogg13nondogg13 Member UncommonPosts: 41

    bank often!

    other then that i would say stay un clanned for a while. you might think your getting tareted for ganks because your un-clanned and have no support, but if you tag up in a guild your just going to find out about a new type of ganker. basically there are clans that do nothing but war clans of people they see crafting or gathering, being new too the game you might think crafting in town is safe but if your in a clan all they have to do is war your clan then then they can attack you all they want without the city towers joining in.

  • garbonzogarbonzo Member Posts: 260

    Fishing tip for any other beginners: get to the edge of some water, equip your rod (you eventually get one free in a quest around the starter area), aim your camera at your feet like you're looking down on your head, then click the action button (default "F".)  I kept trying while looking out over the water and it doesn't work - must look down.  No need to actually see fish in the water.

    Also for gathering, I found I couldn't get anything out of the nodes within the city walls of Heart of Eanna, even though I could technically whack ore nodes and trees (just got endless fails and no skill ups.)  I went right outside the walls and hit nodes and started collecting mats and advancing skill.  

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