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Top 10 Reasons NOT to buy Darkfall

httptrashcanhttptrashcan Member Posts: 16

Ok Darkfallians. Here's some meat to tear apart. My last post got off topic so lets try to stick with these 10 here. If I am wrong about any of these 10 that's fine. Why don't you explain why?

 

Top 10 Reasons NOT to buy DARKFALL

 

1.3rd person Human walking/running animation seriously looks like he has something stuck in his ass. I would be seriously embarrassed if I was the animator that made the human run animation.

2.Running around is ridiculously slow. Mounts look/feel like their running in slow motion.

3.Game is setup so that High skilled players continuously prey on the weak newbs and somehow Darkfall players get off on this.

4.No place to gain skill without getting ganked.

5.No future. Not worth investing time into it.

6.3rd person view options are lame.

7.Crashes and kicks you for no reason. Lots of people including myself experienced these problems. Sometimes after a crash the game will not let you log back in for hours.

8.Two words. Auto Loot. Getting carpool tunnel over here!! Autoloot even if it has a countdown in seconds to 5 or something. Autosell.

9.This game is hacked to high heaven. All the “great” players are using wall hacks / radar hacks etc. that are easily found in a google search.

10.UI is unintuitive and clumsy.

 

 

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Edit:


Since I have not seen one shred of evidence that any of my claims are false but instead see the same old rhetoric over and over again I am going to provide the proof that my claims are in fact true.

 

1.Human Walking/Running Animation


 

2.Slow Mounts


 

3.and 4.Bottom Line is that players that start the game several months or even a year after the game officially launches should be afforded the same opportunity to level as the previous players had for the same price. Since you can't create a new server for every group of new players nor would you want to then you use common sense and setup areas where new players can gain skill. This isn't rocket science folks its common sense. When they leave something this fundamental out of a game it's not called a feature. Its called a failure.

 

5. No Future, Player count decreasing rapidly


 

7. Crashing – This was happening to me in October.. They've had plenty of time to fix this issue.


 

8. Nevermind theres a free hack for autoloot.


 

9. Speed Hack, Teleport Hack


 

Physics Hacks, Xray Hacks


 

10. This is the clumsiest UI I have ever used in a game period. There is no other way to explain it.

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  • CecropiaCecropia Member RarePosts: 3,985

    This post is ridiculous.

    Seriously find something else to do.

    "Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb

  • luciusETRURluciusETRUR Member Posts: 442

    Game has no future, really? Did EVE have a bright future when it had under 10k subscriber base?

  • MurashuMurashu Member UncommonPosts: 1,386
    Originally posted by httptrashcan


    Ok Darkfallians. Here's some meat to tear apart. My last post got off topic so lets try to stick with these 10 here. If I am wrong about any of these 10 that's fine. Why don't you explain why?
     
    Top 10 Reasons NOT to buy DARKFALL
     
    1.3rd person Human walking/running animation seriously looks like he has something stuck in his ass. I havent noticed this myself but I assume you are more experienced in this than I am so I will defer to your wisdom.
    2.Running around is ridiculously slow. Mounts look/feel like their running in slow motion. The running animations do appear slow, not really a deal breaker for me.
    3.Game is setup so that High skilled players continuously prey on the weak newbs and somehow Darkfall players get off on this. Extremely subjective. If you have no idea what FFA PvP means, you probably should have looked it up before making the purchase.
    4.No place to gain skill without getting ganked. Again...this is a FFA PvP game...
    5.No future. Not worth investing time into it. If its not worth investing time into, why did you make a new MMORPG account and devote 9 posts solely to bash the game?
    6.3rd person view options are lame. I wish they had a full time 3rd person view, I would still be playing! I understand their reasoning, but I dont like this one either.
    7.Crashes and kicks you for no reason. Lots of people including myself experienced these problems. Sometimes after a crash the game will not let you log back in for hours. Played for 2 months on the Euro server and never had a crash. Is this something new specific to the NA server?
    8.Two words. Auto Loot. Getting carpool tunnel over here!! Autoloot even if it has a countdown in seconds to 5 or something. Autosell. Yes I agree! Would love to have auto loot, but again I understand why they dont have it.
    9.This game is hacked to high heaven. All the “great” players are using wall hacks / radar hacks etc. that are easily found in a google search. If they are cheating, they will eventually get caught.
    10.UI is unintuitive and clumsy. Is it the best UI? Nope. Is it functional? Very.

    If hacking is still happening then yeah that is a major issue and one that has to be squashed quickly.

     

    All the other complaints sound like the result of someone making an uneducated purchase. If you get upset over being ganked, a FFA PvP game is not a wise purchase.

  • RavingRabbidRavingRabbid Member UncommonPosts: 1,168

    LOL OP you just pissed in some Fanboi Cheerios on this one. Some of the 1-10 items look like opinion only but couple may be valid.

    (AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH Fires plungers at Tasos's butt)

     

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  • todayisbluetodayisblue Member Posts: 60
    Originally posted by httptrashcan


    Ok Darkfallians. Here's some meat to tear apart. My last post got off topic so lets try to stick with these 10 here. If I am wrong about any of these 10 that's fine. Why don't you explain why?
     
    Top 10 Reasons NOT to buy DARKFALL
     
    1.3rd person Human walking/running animation seriously looks like he has something stuck in his ass. I would be seriously embarrassed if I was the animator that made the human run animation. this doesn't bother me. i understand that it's an indie title and besides, emphasis on graphics is really what's killing games these days imo.
    2.Running around is ridiculously slow. Mounts look/feel like their running in slow motion. this is something that would potentially bother me.
    3.Game is setup so that High skilled players continuously prey on the weak newbs and somehow Darkfall players get off on this. i would expect this type of thing to happen in ffa pvp. duh.
    4.No place to gain skill without getting ganked. this should be in the same sentence as point 3. again, duh. but i also get the feeling you didn't try hard enough to find a secluded area.
    5.No future. Not worth investing time into it. what is this based upon? i think it's getting enough attention and is economical enough to go on longer than Aion.
    6.3rd person view options are lame. yeah. this could be true.
    7.Crashes and kicks you for no reason. Lots of people including myself experienced these problems. Sometimes after a crash the game will not let you log back in for hours. i doubt it's THAT unstable. this is the first i've heard of such problems.
    8.Two words. Auto Loot. Getting carpool tunnel over here!! Autoloot even if it has a countdown in seconds to 5 or something. Autosell. autoloot would ruin the gameplay dynamic the devs wanted. you're not supposed to be able to loot everything instantly. and i doubt looting alone is stressful enough to give you carpal tunnel...
    9.This game is hacked to high heaven. All the “great” players are using wall hacks / radar hacks etc. that are easily found in a google search. yeah. i've heard that. hopefully they'll iron that out sooner than later.
    10.UI is unintuitive and clumsy. i've heard mixed opinions about the UI. i hear it takes some getting used to and gets better once you customize it to suit your play style. 

    i haven't played the game, but i've been interested in it for quite some time now. i probably shouldn't have replied to such a garbage thread, but i'm bored. but yeah, i think if you need to try harder before you get a list of 10 decent criticisms. even without having played the game i can tell half of them are bullshit and/or you being butthurt. talk about gameplay aspects i have no idea about and you'll stand a chance at being more successful.

     

  • Haggis13Haggis13 Member Posts: 117

    This is ridiculous. I could've come up with 10 much better reasons not to buy Darkfall. Here's a taste:

    1. Darkfall has the worst CM I have ever seen. I'm not playing a game if its CM insults people who criticise it and I am particularly fearful for my privacy if he is actually able to dig up and publish when and where I've played the game (see reaction to Eurogamer review). This is not even considering whether he was right or not; this is simply not a proper way to respond either way.
    2. Darkfall has had the worst launch of any MMO I know of. The first batch of accounts were sold out very quickly (which is good), but you'd only have a chance at getting one if you were up late at night pressing F5 all the time (which is very bad). There was a huge initial demand for accounts which AV didn't satisfy soon enough. By the time they had, a lot of potential customers had already lost interest. If anything, this shows the sheer incompetency of the company behind Darkfall.
    3. You have to stand still to open and browse your inventory in Darkfall.
    4. It has drag-and-drop looting to offset the full PvP loot. Obviously, you cannot have a "loot all" button if you have full PvP looting, but they could have come up with a less ugly way to solve that issue than having to rummage through a bag by hand.
    5. Darkfall is very prone to macroing and other forms of cheating, which absolutely destroys the idea behind skilling up and fair PvP. Bloodwalls are a very appropriate example.
    6. Darkfall is a considerably empty world. A good excuse for this is that it would be unrealistic to find twenty bears in the shade of every tree, but on the other hand, this huge amount of enemies does seem to work for other MMOs AND a lack of enemies is simply quite boring. Realism CAN be a good thing, but it should definitely NOT interfere with my gameplay.
    7. Darkfall calls simple patches "expansions", which does not only disappoint when you find out we're not talking much more than a slightly larger pool of fixes and tweaks and the introduction of a rather small amount of new content, but also leads me to doubt whether there will ever be any REAL expansions to the game.
    8. Contrary to their initial promises which led a lot of US gamers to buy the EU version, US gamers will not be able to transfer their account from the EU to the US servers, instead having to buy the US version of Darkfall again. While I personally could not care less about this (as I am not the one who has to put up with this), it definitely bodes very ill for how Darkfall's customers are treated.
    9. Darkfall made a fuss about adding fauna to their game. This seems only slightly post hoc, more than a year after release. "Hooray, we've finally been able to get one of these very basic elements right!"
    10. It took ages for Darkfall's website to properly update on the 10% of promised features which had actually made it into the game, leading to a lot of disappointment among subscribers. If a company treats its customers as such, I obviously do not want to be a customer very much.

    Now, if you had listed THESE reasons, you might actually have shown you put some thought into why you thought Darkfall was rubbish.

  • xpiherxpiher Member UncommonPosts: 3,310

     



    Originally posted by httptrashcan

     

    Ok Darkfallians. Here's some meat to tear apart. My last post got off topic so lets try to stick with these 10 here. If I am wrong about any of these 10 that's fine. Why don't you explain why?

     

    Top 10 Reasons NOT to buy DARKFALL

     

    1.3rd person Human walking/running animation seriously looks like he has something stuck in his ass. I would be seriously embarrassed if I was the animator that made the human run animation.

    2.Running around is ridiculously slow. Mounts look/feel like their running in slow motion.

    3.Game is setup so that High skilled players continuously prey on the weak newbs and somehow Darkfall players get off on this.

    4.No place to gain skill without getting ganked.

    5.No future. Not worth investing time into it.

    6.3rd person view options are lame.

    7.Crashes and kicks you for no reason. Lots of people including myself experienced these problems. Sometimes after a crash the game will not let you log back in for hours.

    8.Two words. Auto Loot. Getting carpool tunnel over here!! Autoloot even if it has a countdown in seconds to 5 or something. Autosell.

    9.This game is hacked to high heaven. All the “great” players are using wall hacks / radar hacks etc. that are easily found in a google search.

    10.UI is unintuitive and clumsy.





     

    1) A complaint not worth mentioning

    2) You feel its slower because its in 1st person view

    3) Wrong

    4) This is a complaint because?

    5) Opinion that is probably wrong

    6) Opinion

    7) You must of quit months ago or maybe you were kicked for afk macroing

    8) Auto loot in a Full Loot FFA PvP game is fail.

    9) I wouldn't go that far, but yes the game has hacks what game doesn't have hacks when its first launched though. Probably your only complaint that is vaild

    10) Its set up that way because it has FPS mechanics. MO is set up very very similar.

    It amazes me how someone can spend so much time hating on a game. It doesn't require more than 1 thread and you've posted like 3. Its sad really.

     

     



    Originally posted by Haggis13

     

    This is ridiculous. I could've come up with 10 much better reasons not to buy Darkfall. Here's a taste:

    [*]Darkfall has the worst CM I have ever seen. I'm not playing a game if its CM insults people who criticise it and I am particularly fearful for my privacy if he is actually able to dig up and publish when and where I've played the game (see reaction to Eurogamer review). This is not even considering whether he was right or not; this is simply not a proper way to respond either way.

    [*]Darkfall has had the worst launch of any MMO I know of. The first batch of accounts were sold out very quickly (which is good), but you'd only have a chance at getting one if you were up late at night pressing F5 all the time (which is very bad). There was a huge initial demand for accounts which AV didn't satisfy soon enough. By the time they had, a lot of potential customers had already lost interest. If anything, this shows the sheer incompetency of the company behind Darkfall.

    [*]You have to stand still to open and browse your inventory in Darkfall. Not true

    [*]It has drag-and-drop looting to offset the full PvP loot. Obviously, you cannot have a "loot all" button if you have full PvP looting, but they could have come up with a less ugly way to solve that issue than having to rummage through a bag by hand. I guess the way UO and MO are doing it are bad as well then?

    [*]Darkfall is very prone to macroing and other forms of cheating, which absolutely destroys the idea behind skilling up and fair PvP. Bloodwalls are a very appropriate example. Most people don't do blood wall or bug out mobs, but its a vaild complaint

    Darkfall is a considerably empty world. A good excuse for this is that it would be unrealistic to find twenty bears in the shade of every tree, but on the other hand, this huge amount of enemies does seem to work for other MMOs AND a lack of enemies is simply quite boring. Realism CAN be a good thing, but it should definitely NOT interfere with my gameplay.

    Darkfall calls simple patches "expansions", which does not only disappoint when you find out we're not talking much more than a slightly larger pool of fixes and tweaks and the introduction of a rather small amount of new content, but also leads me to doubt whether there will ever be any REAL expansions to the game. Possibly an error in translation, but the next "Expac" seems to be fairly large.

    Contrary to their initial promises which led a lot of US gamers to buy the EU version, US gamers will not be able to transfer their account from the EU to the US servers, instead having to buy the US version of Darkfall again. While I personally could not care less about this (as I am not the one who has to put up with this), it definitely bodes very ill for how Darkfall's customers are treated. This is just false. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BUY THE GAME AGAIN YOU SIMPLY don't get a free month for transfering and your active sub doesn't transfer. GO read the updates and stop spreading lies that people assumed would be the case because we didn't get to transfer on day one.

    Darkfall made a fuss about adding fauna to their game. This seems only slightly post hoc, more than a year after release. "Hooray, we've finally been able to get one of these very basic elements right!" More likely they finally afforded the servers to support both players and persistant mobs - vaild complaint

    It took ages for Darkfall's website to properly update on the 10% of promised features which had actually made it into the game, leading to a lot of disappointment among subscribers. If a company treats its customers as such, I obviously do not want to be a customer very much. Sigh, the game they said would be released through the interviews to MMORPG Itailia, Warcry, etc is the game we are currently playing. Yes, their website was horribly out-dated and just prior to launch it did still say things like local banking, henchmen, prestigue classes, etc HOWEVER the Devs said in the forums that the website was outdated and should not be followed. They didn't purposefully mislead people, they are just amatures when it comes to PR/CSR a vaild complaint, but I wouldn't say they out right lied.



    Now, if you had listed THESE reasons, you might actually have shown you put some thought into why you thought Darkfall was rubbish.



     

    See the orange part. You have vaild points but

     

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  • TzetothTzetoth Member Posts: 67

    I would advise people to look into any game before purchasing it. This applies even more when you see threads and replies like these. This is especially important when people are posting completely false information (character transfers are nearly implemented, by the way).

    Oh and fyi, if anyone ever says something this dumb, "Getting carpool tunnel over here!!" it is probably better just to die a little on the inside due to human stupidity and move on.

     

     

  • xzyaxxzyax Member Posts: 2,459
    Originally posted by luciusETRUR


    Game has no future, really? Did EVE have a bright future when it had under 10k subscriber base?



     

    EVE never had less than 10k subs.

     

    You'll have to remember that when EVE was released it had a major publisher and had boxes on the shelves. 

    There are some advantages with going with a traditional MMO Release. 

  • MurashuMurashu Member UncommonPosts: 1,386
    Originally posted by xzyax

    Originally posted by luciusETRUR


    Game has no future, really? Did EVE have a bright future when it had under 10k subscriber base?



     

    EVE never had less than 10k subs.

     

    You'll have to remember that when EVE was released it had a major publisher and had boxes on the shelves. 

    There are some advantages with going with a traditional MMO Release. 

    I dont remember EVE selling in stores until this year when they partnered up with Atari. I thought it was only available via download from 2003-March 2009. I could be wrong but I dont remember anything about EVE being traditional, awesome, but not traditional lol.

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,063

    Some of the OP's complaints might be valid, such as hacking, or even bad animations (I rarely care about such things) but at least half the list are complaints about the game's core design, and yes, if you don't like FFA PVP and ganking DF is not the game for you. (which absolutely every gamer on the planet must know by now)

    No one "accidently" purchases DF w/o knowing a bit about what they are getting in to.

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  • xzyaxxzyax Member Posts: 2,459
    Originally posted by Murashu

    Originally posted by xzyax

    Originally posted by luciusETRUR


    Game has no future, really? Did EVE have a bright future when it had under 10k subscriber base?



     

    EVE never had less than 10k subs.

     

    You'll have to remember that when EVE was released it had a major publisher and had boxes on the shelves. 

    There are some advantages with going with a traditional MMO Release. 

    I dont remember EVE selling in stores until this year when they partnered up with Atari. I thought it was only available via download from 2003-March 2009. I could be wrong but I dont remember anything about EVE being traditional, awesome, but not traditional lol.

    Some sources:

     

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eve_Online

    "First released in North America and Europe in May 2003, it was published from May to December 2003 by Simon & Schuster Interactive,after which CCP purchased the rights back and began to self-publish via a digital distribution scheme."

     

    www.ccpgames.com/press/press_releases.asp

    "Simon & Schuster Interactive's Mike "Campion" Wallis, producer of EVE Online explains what "going gold" means, "By going gold, we have finalized the content on the game CD and received approval to manufacture the discs."

     

    www.ccpgames.com/press/press_releases.asp

    "December 2003 – CCP hf., the developer of the highly-acclaimed Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game (MMORPG) title EVE Online, announced today that is has regained the publishing rights for the title worldwide and will start distributing it as a direct download from the Internet."

     

    www.pcdailynews.com/index.php

    A pic of the original box

  • MurashuMurashu Member UncommonPosts: 1,386
    Originally posted by xzyax

    Originally posted by Murashu


    I dont remember EVE selling in stores until this year when they partnered up with Atari. I thought it was only available via download from 2003-March 2009. I could be wrong but I dont remember anything about EVE being traditional, awesome, but not traditional lol.

    Some sources:

     

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eve_Online

    "First released in North America and Europe in May 2003, it was published from May to December 2003 by Simon & Schuster Interactive,after which CCP purchased the rights back and began to self-publish via a digital distribution scheme."

     

    www.ccpgames.com/press/press_releases.asp

    "Simon & Schuster Interactive's Mike "Campion" Wallis, producer of EVE Online explains what "going gold" means, "By going gold, we have finalized the content on the game CD and received approval to manufacture the discs."

     

    www.ccpgames.com/press/press_releases.asp

    "December 2003 – CCP hf., the developer of the highly-acclaimed Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game (MMORPG) title EVE Online, announced today that is has regained the publishing rights for the title worldwide and will start distributing it as a direct download from the Internet."

     

    www.pcdailynews.com/index.php

    A pic of the original box

    That would explain why I never saw it in stores then. It looks like it was only available for 7 months before they reverted to the digital downloads in Dec 03.

     

  • HotjazzHotjazz Member UncommonPosts: 742
    Originally posted by httptrashcan


    Ok Darkfallians. Here's some meat to tear apart. My last post got off topic so lets try to stick with these 10 here. If I am wrong about any of these 10 that's fine. Why don't you explain why?
     
    Top 10 Reasons NOT to buy DARKFALL

     

    I agree. Here is my top 10 reasons

     

    1. You can't fly and fight like ballerinas. How can anyone even make a game without these features in 2009.

     

    2. Animations. What matters in a modern mmo is graphix, animation and the number of dancemoves your char can do. Gameplay is sooo ten years ago.

     

    3. No safezones. Like someone have the right to kill me just because I smacktalk and behave like an asshat.

     

    4. No epic weapon/armor. What reason is there to play if I can't race for new epic weapon and armor? Ohh and your weapons have durabilities so you lose it when it wears out. Epic fail.

     

    5. Open pvp.  WTF? Everybody know pvp happens in a battleground. Two teams with equal numbers fight eachother, and the team with most epics win. No need to re-invent the wheel.

     

    6. Build and decorate a privat house. Who want to do this shit. I wont even clean my room when my mom yells at me.

     

    7. Build, sail and fight with ships. So I bought a ship simulator now? DF suck so bad they had to build a minigame into it.

     

    8. Char customization. They are just ugly. Male chars in new mmo should look feminine like real metrosexual men do.

     

    9. Sieges. This suck big time. Someone can take your city for good. They should make it like Alterac Valley so I got my city back after an hour.

     

    10. Full-loot. WTF? Do they think people accually like real PVP with risk and reward?

     

    I could add tons more, but these are the top 10.

     

  • Haggis13Haggis13 Member Posts: 117

    *wrong post*

  • phrankphrank Member Posts: 238
    Originally posted by Hotjazz

    Originally posted by httptrashcan


    Ok Darkfallians. Here's some meat to tear apart. My last post got off topic so lets try to stick with these 10 here. If I am wrong about any of these 10 that's fine. Why don't you explain why?
     
    Top 10 Reasons NOT to buy DARKFALL

     

    I agree. Here is my top 10 reasons

     

    1. You can't fly and fight like ballerinas. How can anyone even make a game without these features in 2009.

     

    2. Animations. What matters in a modern mmo is graphix, animation and the number of dancemoves your char can do. Gameplay is sooo ten years ago.

     

    3. No safezones. Like someone have the right to kill me just because I smacktalk and behave like an asshat.

     

    4. No epic weapon/armor. What reason is there to play if I can't race for new epic weapon and armor? Ohh and your weapons have durabilities so you lose it when it wears out. Epic fail.

     

    5. Open pvp.  WTF? Everybody know pvp happens in a battleground. Two teams with equal numbers fight eachother, and the team with most epics win. No need to re-invent the wheel.

     

    6. Build and decorate a privat house. Who want to do this shit. I wont even clean my room when my mom yells at me.

     

    7. Build, sail and fight with ships. So I bought a ship simulator now? DF suck so bad they had to build a minigame into it.

     

    8. Char customization. They are just ugly. Male chars in new mmo should look feminine like real metrosexual men do.

     

    9. Sieges. This suck big time. Someone can take your city for good. They should make it like Alterac Valley so I got my city back after an hour.

     

    10. Full-loot. WTF? Do they think people accually like real PVP with risk and reward?

     

    I could add tons more, but these are the top 10.

     

    So once again out come the strawmen.

     

    Can't any of you shillbots EVER dispute an anti-darkfail post with any facts? All you ever do is shill the game to high heaven and never provide a single ounce of dis-proof of the reasons the game is bad.

    Of course it has been like this since way back in beta so no real surprise. When you have no facts you have to resort to non-sequitors and strawmen.

    Keep up the good sycophantic spin all the way into the ground.....

  • MurashuMurashu Member UncommonPosts: 1,386
    Originally posted by phrank


    So once again out come the strawmen.

     
    Can't any of you shillbots EVER dispute an anti-darkfail post with any facts? All you ever do is shill the game to high heaven and never provide a single ounce of dis-proof of the reasons the game is bad.
    Of course it has been like this since way back in beta so no real surprise. When you have no facts you have to resort to non-sequitors and strawmen.
    Keep up the good sycophantic spin all the way into the ground.....

    How does one disprove whining about FFA PvP in a FFA PvP game? What exactly are you looking for?

  • ste2000ste2000 Member EpicPosts: 6,194
    Originally posted by httptrashcan


    Ok Darkfallians. Here's some meat to tear apart. My last post got off topic so lets try to stick with these 10 here. If I am wrong about any of these 10 that's fine. Why don't you explain why?
     
    Top 10 Reasons NOT to buy DARKFALL
     
    1.3rd person Human walking/running animation seriously looks like he has something stuck in his ass. I would be seriously embarrassed if I was the animator that made the human run animation.
    2.Running around is ridiculously slow. Mounts look/feel like their running in slow motion.
    3.Game is setup so that High skilled players continuously prey on the weak newbs and somehow Darkfall players get off on this.
    4.No place to gain skill without getting ganked.
    5.No future. Not worth investing time into it.
    6.3rd person view options are lame.
    7.Crashes and kicks you for no reason. Lots of people including myself experienced these problems. Sometimes after a crash the game will not let you log back in for hours.
    8.Two words. Auto Loot. Getting carpool tunnel over here!! Autoloot even if it has a countdown in seconds to 5 or something. Autosell.
    9.This game is hacked to high heaven. All the “great” players are using wall hacks / radar hacks etc. that are easily found in a google search.
    10.UI is unintuitive and clumsy.



    Most of the reasons you mention for not to buy, are the reason why I bought it, the rest is just subjective.

    I am never kicked from the game, I have no lag whatsoever, except during sieges, there are hackers.....like in every other MMO.

    The rest is just your opinion.



    Auto loot for example...........there is a reason why is not there.

    You kill me, with auto loot, you will loot me in a second and run away.

    Without autoloot it will take you 5 mins (if I am loaded) meanwhile one of my friend could come from behind you and kill you..............so I get my loot back.

    Even looting should be a challenge......like everything else in DF

    If you don't get this, I understand why you don't get DF



    DF is a niche game, and it is a niche because the uncompromising features that you don't like, although for other people is exactly the opposite.

  • CecropiaCecropia Member RarePosts: 3,985
    Originally posted by Murashu

    Originally posted by phrank


    So once again out come the strawmen.

     
    Can't any of you shillbots EVER dispute an anti-darkfail post with any facts? All you ever do is shill the game to high heaven and never provide a single ounce of dis-proof of the reasons the game is bad.
    Of course it has been like this since way back in beta so no real surprise. When you have no facts you have to resort to non-sequitors and strawmen.
    Keep up the good sycophantic spin all the way into the ground.....

    How does one disprove whining about FFA PvP in a FFA PvP game? What exactly are you looking for?



     

    My question is who the hell let him out of his cage? It was actually getting pleasant in here for awhile.

     

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  • SnakexSnakex Member UncommonPosts: 317
    Originally posted by httptrashcan


    Ok Darkfallians. Here's some meat to tear apart. My last post got off topic so lets try to stick with these 10 here. If I am wrong about any of these 10 that's fine. Why don't you explain why?
     
    Top 10 Reasons NOT to buy DARKFALL
     
    1.3rd person Human walking/running animation seriously looks like he has something stuck in his ass. I would be seriously embarrassed if I was the animator that made the human run animation.
    Stfu, stop bitchin
    2.Running around is ridiculously slow. Mounts look/feel like their running in slow motion.
      to bad get a  mount and deal with it, if mounts are too slow, rafts are always there
    3.Game is setup so that High skilled players continuously prey on the weak newbs and somehow Darkfall players get off on this.
       Well i now know ur that nub that always got killed and didnt want to leave the starter city, get a guild
    4.No place to gain skill without getting ganked.
      not true, i do it all the time, its called getting away from starter or capital citys, try it
    5.No future. Not worth investing time into it.
      ur playing a Video game, there is nothing to invest besides ur enjoyment
    6.3rd person view options are lame.
      thats so u dont zoom all the way out like in WoW, its only for u to have a 180 degree view of your player, but not so u can see who is behind u
    7.Crashes and kicks you for no reason. Lots of people including myself experienced these problems. Sometimes after a crash the game will not let you log back in for hours.
     The game does crash, but iv never got crashed because of just no reson, just a bug, its always been something,  and no u dont have to wait for hours, its about 5 mins, if u dont spam "log-in" its because ur players body is still in game
    8.Two words. Auto Loot. Getting carpool tunnel over here!! Autoloot even if it has a countdown in seconds to 5 or something. Autosell.
      ahaha, they already talked about this, its so u cant loot everybody wile in a battle, and to sell everything in battle, or just flat out, before someone or something gets to u
    9.This game is hacked to high heaven. All the “great” players are using wall hacks / radar hacks etc. that are easily found in a google search.
       "Hacks" i havent seen 1 once March, now all i see is Glitchs, or Glitching
    10.UI is unintuitive and clumsy.
       idk, NPC mobs running around is circles isnt "that" clumsy, just dumb =]] but no seriously they are smart on how they team up on ur ass

     

  • RealbigdealRealbigdeal Member UncommonPosts: 1,666

    I agree with one point, niche or not, not enough money or enough, the 3rd person view of darkfall is really an epic fail. You feel like it had been done well if you take an alfar and a dwarf, but if you take a mahirim and an ork, you wont even be able to see the alfar and dwarf or other small monsters in melee that are just in front of you. They need to put the crosshair a bit higher so it could be more fair.

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  • dcoleman07dcoleman07 Member Posts: 126

    I just started playing this game and I love it. I havent been this immersed in an MMO since good ole EQ circa 1999 - 2004.  I would highly recommend this game to any pvpers and anyone that wants to have a game that has serious long term playability.  After reading many of the troll posts about this game, im convinced that the people that post bad things about this game, like the OP, are just people that tried the game and couldnt hack it. 

     

    Just because YOU SUCK at Darkfall does not make it a bad game.  So go cry and play WoW because you couldnt hang.

  • youngkgyoungkg Member UncommonPosts: 357

    Great game.....Every time i see someone post shit like this i cant help but to assume that the post itself is generally bullshit and the real reason your not resubing isnt on that list......reasons 3,4,8,9 show a pattern...rest are not worth going over....il give ya the UI i hate it myself but it grows on ya.

    Darkfall can be frustrating as hell especially as a noob but i cant imagine a player who favors PvP over anything else finding a more rewarding experience then DF unless there into EvE...If your into mmo's where the concept is to raid and acquire certain gear for the PvE or social aspect of the game.... Cheers man you have alot of quality options out there from wow to lotro but Darkfall probably isnt your cup of tea...or maybe it could be but chances are it isnt....

    As far as this post goes your main gripes with the game seems to be the general concept of it....Didnt you read up on it first?? i mean jesus.... iv blown 50 bucks on a few mmo's that i never resubd 2 but i have never been caught off guard by the entire concept on one which is bringing me to the conclusion that your post is full of shit...

  • httptrashcanhttptrashcan Member Posts: 16
    Originally posted by youngkg


    Great game.....Every time i see someone post shit like this i cant help but to assume that the post itself is generally bullshit and the real reason your not resubing isnt on that list......reasons 3,4,8,9 show a pattern...rest are not worth going over....il give ya the UI i hate it myself but it grows on ya.
    Darkfall can be frustrating as hell especially as a noob but i cant imagine a player who favors PvP over anything else finding a more rewarding experience then DF unless there into EvE...If your into mmo's where the concept is to raid and acquire certain gear for the PvE or social aspect of the game.... Cheers man you have alot of quality options out there from wow to lotro but Darkfall probably isnt your cup of tea...or maybe it could be but chances are it isnt....
    As far as this post goes your main gripes with the game seems to be the general concept of it....Didnt you read up on it first?? i mean jesus.... iv blown 50 bucks on a few mmo's that i never resubd 2 but i have never been caught off guard by the entire concept on one which is bringing me to the conclusion that your post is full of shit...

    Your just ranting. Which parts of my post are full of shit? Be specific. Is there something I am saying that isn't true? If so speak your mind. You present the same rhetoric that many others before you have already attempted while completely dodging the 10 issues that I have presented. When confronted face to face with the facts Darkfallians seem to dodge the issues and attempt to indoctrinate people with the propaganda that has been handed down by their their leaders.

     

  • xpiherxpiher Member UncommonPosts: 3,310
    Originally posted by httptrashcan

    Originally posted by youngkg


    Great game.....Every time i see someone post shit like this i cant help but to assume that the post itself is generally bullshit and the real reason your not resubing isnt on that list......reasons 3,4,8,9 show a pattern...rest are not worth going over....il give ya the UI i hate it myself but it grows on ya.
    Darkfall can be frustrating as hell especially as a noob but i cant imagine a player who favors PvP over anything else finding a more rewarding experience then DF unless there into EvE...If your into mmo's where the concept is to raid and acquire certain gear for the PvE or social aspect of the game.... Cheers man you have alot of quality options out there from wow to lotro but Darkfall probably isnt your cup of tea...or maybe it could be but chances are it isnt....
    As far as this post goes your main gripes with the game seems to be the general concept of it....Didnt you read up on it first?? i mean jesus.... iv blown 50 bucks on a few mmo's that i never resubd 2 but i have never been caught off guard by the entire concept on one which is bringing me to the conclusion that your post is full of shit...

    Your just ranting. Which parts of my post are full of shit? Be specific. Is there something I am saying that isn't true? If so speak your mind. You present the same rhetoric that many others before you have already attempted while completely dodging the 10 issues that I have presented. When confronted face to face with the facts Darkfallians seem to dodge the issues and attempt to indoctrinate people with the propaganda that has been handed down by their their leaders.

     

     

    90% of your complaints are about core design revolving around FFA PvP and full loot. Enough said. Oh, that nad you only made an account here to bash darkfall. Maybe you should grow up?

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